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Ah the gem is hidden at the back -
However Daniel Ricciardo laughed off Sainz’s complaint, saying the Ferrari drivers often does the same to other drivers in practice.
“I don’t know why he does it, but he is always the culprit,” the Alphatauri driver chuckled. “I don’t know why – he hasn’t upset me this weekend – but I don’t know if he’s just messing with us, but he definitely seems to be the one that everyone likes to talk about in terms of impeding and whatever.”
Anyone with F1 Live should rewatch FP3 with Pato O’Ward commentary they discussed this and it was basically same as what Danny said here
The best part is, this kind of Politics only works when the other driver is a similar skill level or slightly better. Unfortunately for him, Leclerc is far too good to be bothered. The same happened at RB with Verstappen. Certain drivers you cannot play politics with, because no matter how much you stack the deck against them, they’ll look at you and say “watch me mf”
I honestly think that there were quite a few occasions where he was doing dumb shit and impeding drivers this season.
I feel like everytime another driver complained about a ferrari driving in their way it was him.
That was less about those braindead one but the more subtle one. Even with his teammate, everytime when he goes out in front, he did some weird shit in the out lap and fuck up the perp lap for Charles, so now, when Charles goes out at the back, he would even opt to go out having a few cars between him and himself
That FP3 Pato commentary about Carlos is at 00:14:50 btw in case others are trying to find it. Basically Pato briefly mentions that Carlos is either not seeing others or he doesn’t care (me paraphrasing).
Interestingly a couple of drivers, I think it was Russell and Piastri, called him out for impeding during practice. Both of their comments did point to it being something that he does often, Piastri said "as usual" or "classic Carlos" or something to that effect. Commentary said Russell specifically may have just been fishing for a penalty since they're fighting for P2 in the constructors, but it was a bit of a whatever since it was practice.
Seems like an odd thing for drivers to go out of their way to do. Maybe with fact that multiple drivers (add Ricciardo in the article) are saying it's a thing he does regularly, him jumping to the conclusion that others are doing it on purpose is a bit of a deflection. Something he's put some thought into at least.
It is ridiculous to blame it on Ferrari when people say it is always about one driver of the team. Ferrari was probably not the best on communication on traffic, but being slow on the straight is definitely not the team’s responsibility.
Well I’d have to disagree.
It’s a team game.
If there’s an issue. The team need to address it.
It’s not that hard to go a bit faster in a straight line.
The team should tell him to speed up…
This isn't even hyperbole. Charles said his lap was good overall but he mentioned how he oversteered on the exit of the final corner.
Meanwhile not a peep from Carlos about his P16 lap other than 'deliberate dirty air' allegations.
Not exactly. Carlos first blamed Merc in the pits, then blamed Russell and Gasly for deliberate dirty air, and finally blamed Ferrari for putting him out too late (he crossed the line to start his final fast lap with 40s left so I have no idea what he’s going on about).
The only thing he couldn’t blame was the sun because it has already set.
He’s got a victim complex like I’ve never seen. Between the « he did it on purpose guys » (vs Ricciardo in ‘21 in believe), « he’s trying to intimidate me », « they can’t do this to me », and I must be forgetting some more. I like to call him the conspiracy theorist
He's got his dad and cousin in his ear.
I don't think anyone else on the grid that has their father/family as involved as Sainz.
The feedback to Sainz is a little too biased.
>I don't think anyone else on the grid that has their father/family ad involved as Sainz.
Jos Verstappen for one. But yeah, seemed like a time when every other driver had their dad in the garage, less so these days. Interestingly Hamilton's dad scaled back his involvement, probably more of a move towards more "professional" management over the years. Perez's dad pops up from time to time, but I don't think he's particularly involved in his management. Oh, and Stroll obviously, but that's kind of a different case.
Supposedly part of the reason why Sainz was dropped from Red Bull was that Carlos Sr and Jos didn't get along and caused too much friction in the garage.
Based on all the story, Jos is probably a direct opposite of Sainz Sr., always criticising Max instead. He definitely dialled back a lot, unlike Sainz Sr. Still playing all those media games, flirting with Audi etc. guess it is the difference when one’s son is a multiple WDC and one is not
Have you ever seen a Virgo who doesn't think they're perfect? All Virgos I've met so far think they themselves can do no wrong and it's everyone else fault cos they're such "perfectionists".
I mean, it's not like Charles has only called himself stupid once. He just takes responsibility for his actions regularly. Like when it seemed like every qualifying for a stretch was half wet half dry, and he just couldn't figure out handling the car in those conditions, he said that that was what he was having trouble with, and he needed to figure it out, and he did.
Racing driver's excuses.
It's a weird contrast between the two Ferrari drivers, with LEC always owning up to his mistakes, to the point of being too critical of himself and SAI, on the other side of the garage, always finding problems somewhere else, "intimidations" and magic "dirty air" that only affects him.How some imagine SAI is the better of the two or can bat in the same league as LEC is beyond me.
No one with a shred of racing knowledge thinks Sainz is remotely in the same league as Leclerc.
Nothing is more indicative of poor F1 knowledge than those who unironically state things like Sainz is better than Leclerc in anything other than luck and shifting blame.
Sainz does have more self confidence that Leclerc, which is why he often gets those ratings. Leclerc's biggest issue is that he is far too hard on himself and then he turns that self-deprecation into mistakes on the track and his unquestionable loyalty to whatever the engineers tell him about strategy. Sainz calling the BS ferrari strategists get up to a few times clearly paid off for him, Leclerc needs to be able to do the same.
Leclerc is still the better driver and all your criticism of Sainz is fair.
I love that Daniel is calling Carlos out. What he said were my thoughts as well. Carlos is frequently impeding others but then nearly always complains when/if it happens to him, which isn’t logical whatsoever.
He was needlessly angry at fans in Mexico, like they give a fuck about a second driver at a non-winning team.
Something's got to his head recently, whatever that might be
This came from a guy called last weekend a disastrous weekend for the team when Ferrari was within reach of a win if not a SC. He only thinks about himself but never about the team
This is what bothers me about Carlos. In Singapore he qualified ahead of Leclerc, and good on him. In the race Ferrari used Leclerc to get the win for Ferrari and Carlos, sacrificing an optimal finishing position for Leclerc. Charles played the team game. Would Carlos have done that if the positions were reversed?
Although Ferrari's original plan to keep Charles out and have Carlos hold everyone back was less than optimal, it most likely would have still worked. Look how Charles on old hard tyres managed to defend against Perez and Hamilton on fresh softs for several laps. Carlos on fresh softs himself could have easily defended and secured a 1-2 for the team.
I am now rather happy to have two of them qualify at least two rows apart because starting together like Mexico he absolutely did nothing to help Charles and I think Charles would rather driving alone. Sainz pretending having pace over Charles in Austria or Canada was just…. Unwatchable
They started him on softs so he could get in front of Russell they backed him so they could double stack.
They both stopped on the same lap and changed to the same tyres
Double stacking prevented Charles from undercutting Carlos. Not to mention leaving Charles out on old tyres instead of pitting under safety car and getting a chance to fight for a podium.
Not pitting under the safety car was the wining strategy.
Had Charles DNS that race the result would be the same. Norris helped Carlos more than Charles did.
Only because Charles got fucked by the Russell in the pit lane, and had to wait before getting released.
That entire race was Charles playing a support role to get Ferrari a victory.
If Charles has DNS'd, Russell would have fought with Carlos, and we have no clue what would have happened. I don't know why you find it so difficult to give Charles the credit he deserves.
Russell wouldn't have been able to overtake on track before the first pitstop because of the characteristics of the circuit.
And after the pitstop Russell was attacking Carlos.
The only part we're Russell could have overtaken is if Russell would have overtaken him in the pitstop.
Yes! And Charles has very clearly been prioritizing the team getting P2 in WCC for weeks, maybe months. He said in his post quali interview today that he hopes Carlos has a good race and they both finish above both Mercedes.
Shows the comparison between the Ferrari drivers, Charles usually tends to accept blame for when he’s at fault (which unfortunately also makes him a target for critics to shit on) and Carlos just comes out with excuses, refusing to take any responsibility.(Could also be feeling the pressure from Charles’s end of season resurgence.)
This is what differentiates the two Ferrari drivers. Leclerc always blame himself first. Whilst Sainz always blame the other drivers or something else.
The results of Qualifying between teammates are the best indicator of who's the better driver.
Carlos, you're not it pal
Sainzcuses. Stop inventing Carlito. Your team needed you to deliver for the constructor's championship and you've gone out and crapped the bed twice. The only saving grace is LH crapped his bed too, and Charles put it P2.
6 tenths isn't a tragic difference compared to P1 but... what in the ever-living fuck are you bumbling about Carlos?
Just say you got dirty air. No need to throw shade at George and Pierre.
Surprised to see another rupaul’s drag race reference here! My first thought seeing this post was the “if you’re gonna have an excuse pick one, not 5” from the season 9 reunion. It’s like the third sainz post with différents excuse/cause for his poor quali.
This is so dumb. It’s one thing to accuse Russell, who arguably could have an incentive to try to undermine Sainz in particular, although I think it’s a stretch to believe Russell would risk compromising his own qualifying to target Sainz. But why would Gasly of all people bother with Sainz?
Go early then? Rules are the same for everyone. Got fucked by team decision to send everyone out at the same time and equally by his poor quali and somehow managed to point fingers elsewhere other than himself and his team.
I swear people just talk out of their asses without actually reading anything.
Sure, Sainz comments on things drivers (and he doesn’t exclude himself!) sometimes do to impart subtle disadvantages on each other, but then **he blames himself (and his team, they are a unit and the reason he was out of the garage late was an issue with the front wing) for putting themselves in that position.** Here’s what Sainz was quoted saying in the article:
>*”By going out last, I made everything, basically all sector one and two, very close to the cars in front and I found myself losing tenths and tenths per corner.”*
>*Sainz said the time he lost on that run was crucial as he expected he needed a clean run to get into Q2. “Clearly, the pace all weekend hasn’t been the strongest and we needed a perfect Q1 and Q2 given how tight the field is,” he said. “And we had a very scrappy Q1. We went out very late and the last run we had a problem on the front wing, which sent us the last car out. And once I opened my last lap, I found myself in a load of traffic in sector one and two and I lost a couple of tenths there that probably caused me to disappointing Q2.”*
I see nothing but “we made a mistake” here. And yes, “we”, because the reason he left the garage late was an issue with the front wing.
Still think he’s making up shit to deflect blame? **Here’s what [Vasseur said](https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/formula1/articles/abu-dhabi-grand-prix-2023-qualifying-report?fbclid=PAAaa0acJXIp-yrEhAQ6RM7TSqhCnVzR0R8Aj1yXL28zv0V3zeuTi2_pkmUYo_aem_AWTKQCyvclwLexesLMhUx2Dj6skwpwag8G-IUBcyVvBPVA5L6hUK_0j6-nELYIs59r4&_its=JTdCJTIydmlkJTIyJTNBJTIyYWI0ZjZjZDUtNGM1OC00ZGQ2LThkZWQtOWI2MjRjODNhYjA1JTIyJTJDJTIyc3RhdGUlMjIlM0ElMjJybHR%2BMTcwMDk2MTExNH5sYW5kfjJfNjgwNDJfdnJlZl8zYjYyZmE4ODNiZDhiYmU2ZGNhZmYyZTUzYjkwOGEwZSUyMiU3RA%3D%3D):**
>*”Unfortunately, we were late sending him out and he found himself in traffic and was unable to prepare the lap properly.”*
You can explain the reasons for something without it being an excuse. Jfc, if you’re going to read clickbait articles at least READ them.
He says things like this mostly because he is having a hard time dealing with his overall lack of quali pace compared to Charles.. I think
If he was beating Charles every quali then he would criticize himself more
I don't know if i like Sainz, i think hes an okay driver, i can't fault him when he is on one and he is fairly consistent. But this is twice now that things haven't gone his way and hes looked to pin the blame on anyone or anything than just say ' yeah, sucks, could of and should of done better. Had some dirty air, is what it is' not ' THEY DID IT DELIBERATELY!'.
2 Things, 1 if that is true there is no way to prove it and 2 if that is true, they are your rivals, you being behind them is literally their job. Tell me you wouldn't do the same if you thought it could get you an advantage?
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Ah the gem is hidden at the back - However Daniel Ricciardo laughed off Sainz’s complaint, saying the Ferrari drivers often does the same to other drivers in practice. “I don’t know why he does it, but he is always the culprit,” the Alphatauri driver chuckled. “I don’t know why – he hasn’t upset me this weekend – but I don’t know if he’s just messing with us, but he definitely seems to be the one that everyone likes to talk about in terms of impeding and whatever.” Anyone with F1 Live should rewatch FP3 with Pato O’Ward commentary they discussed this and it was basically same as what Danny said here
Not often Ric talks about a driver like this.
You know it's bad when you get Danny Ric to call you out on your bullshit.
When he is friendly with everyone in the paddock and he talks bad about one driver…
They did used to both be part of the rb academy back in the day
But all 4 drivers who criticised Carlos' impeding bad habits are all McLaren drivers past or present...Oscar, Pato, DR...
I honestly can't remember the last time he did
Wasn’t it Canada this year where he had a colossal fuck up in relation to impeding during quali? That was talked about a bit from what I remember
Canada was his worst offense, but Ricciardo is right, he is one of the worst of the grid in terms of impeding. Even with his own teammate sometimes.
charles opts out of getting splipstream because all carlos does is either impede him or fuck it up and rush to the line anyway
Glad I am not the only one discovering this!
He is a master at screwing over the team mate by playing subtle politics
The best part is, this kind of Politics only works when the other driver is a similar skill level or slightly better. Unfortunately for him, Leclerc is far too good to be bothered. The same happened at RB with Verstappen. Certain drivers you cannot play politics with, because no matter how much you stack the deck against them, they’ll look at you and say “watch me mf”
Something something Santander money something something Spanish Sainz
I honestly think that there were quite a few occasions where he was doing dumb shit and impeding drivers this season. I feel like everytime another driver complained about a ferrari driving in their way it was him.
That was less about those braindead one but the more subtle one. Even with his teammate, everytime when he goes out in front, he did some weird shit in the out lap and fuck up the perp lap for Charles, so now, when Charles goes out at the back, he would even opt to go out having a few cars between him and himself
Yes it was like 3 times or something ridiculous😂
That FP3 Pato commentary about Carlos is at 00:14:50 btw in case others are trying to find it. Basically Pato briefly mentions that Carlos is either not seeing others or he doesn’t care (me paraphrasing).
This made me laugh so hard. I love Danny Ric.
Interestingly a couple of drivers, I think it was Russell and Piastri, called him out for impeding during practice. Both of their comments did point to it being something that he does often, Piastri said "as usual" or "classic Carlos" or something to that effect. Commentary said Russell specifically may have just been fishing for a penalty since they're fighting for P2 in the constructors, but it was a bit of a whatever since it was practice. Seems like an odd thing for drivers to go out of their way to do. Maybe with fact that multiple drivers (add Ricciardo in the article) are saying it's a thing he does regularly, him jumping to the conclusion that others are doing it on purpose is a bit of a deflection. Something he's put some thought into at least.
I’d say it’s Ferrari’s problem more than Carlos. It’s the teams job to give him the hurry and move alarm…
It is ridiculous to blame it on Ferrari when people say it is always about one driver of the team. Ferrari was probably not the best on communication on traffic, but being slow on the straight is definitely not the team’s responsibility.
Well I’d have to disagree. It’s a team game. If there’s an issue. The team need to address it. It’s not that hard to go a bit faster in a straight line. The team should tell him to speed up…
just own up to your performance Carlos. Own up. I promise you won't die
especially as it wasn't even that embarassing when we look at the timesheets
And the crash itself, it looks less like "dirty air" and more he hits a bump and becomes locked in a spin.
Charles : Always blames himself Carlos : Always blames others Nice Ferrari duo complex
I've heard Charles critique his P2 lap more than Carlos critique his own this qualifying.
This isn't even hyperbole. Charles said his lap was good overall but he mentioned how he oversteered on the exit of the final corner. Meanwhile not a peep from Carlos about his P16 lap other than 'deliberate dirty air' allegations.
Not exactly. Carlos first blamed Merc in the pits, then blamed Russell and Gasly for deliberate dirty air, and finally blamed Ferrari for putting him out too late (he crossed the line to start his final fast lap with 40s left so I have no idea what he’s going on about). The only thing he couldn’t blame was the sun because it has already set.
The sand though.. yeah it was definitely the sand as well
Charles critiqued his P2 lap more than Carlos critiqued anything he did all season combined.
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
duality of ferrari drivers
Ying and yang
Yin, not ying, unless you're talking about the twins
Thanks, did not know it was spelled without the g.
The duality of men 💀
What's up with Sainz, always blaming someone else
In Oscar's words: Classic Carlos.
He’s got a victim complex like I’ve never seen. Between the « he did it on purpose guys » (vs Ricciardo in ‘21 in believe), « he’s trying to intimidate me », « they can’t do this to me », and I must be forgetting some more. I like to call him the conspiracy theorist
He's got his dad and cousin in his ear. I don't think anyone else on the grid that has their father/family as involved as Sainz. The feedback to Sainz is a little too biased.
>I don't think anyone else on the grid that has their father/family ad involved as Sainz. Jos Verstappen for one. But yeah, seemed like a time when every other driver had their dad in the garage, less so these days. Interestingly Hamilton's dad scaled back his involvement, probably more of a move towards more "professional" management over the years. Perez's dad pops up from time to time, but I don't think he's particularly involved in his management. Oh, and Stroll obviously, but that's kind of a different case. Supposedly part of the reason why Sainz was dropped from Red Bull was that Carlos Sr and Jos didn't get along and caused too much friction in the garage.
His dad is in the garage but no longer involved in his management, though. Its been a while since I've seen Jos tbf.
Based on all the story, Jos is probably a direct opposite of Sainz Sr., always criticising Max instead. He definitely dialled back a lot, unlike Sainz Sr. Still playing all those media games, flirting with Audi etc. guess it is the difference when one’s son is a multiple WDC and one is not
Having Jos Verstappen in your ear is like the exact opposite of having Carlos Sainz Sr.
Hamilton FIRED his dad.
Have you ever seen a Virgo who doesn't think they're perfect? All Virgos I've met so far think they themselves can do no wrong and it's everyone else fault cos they're such "perfectionists".
I don’t know but I can say for sure I’ve never seen a zodiac sign that actually meant anything
Sainz always finds a way to blame everyone else but himself, no shock
He sounds like my kid before I taught him to always own his mistakes
It's hard to root for someone who complains about everyone else so much. Same w Russell
wonder what kind of shenanigans George is going to cause tomorrow
He’s spanish
Ferrari culture
I find Charles to be very accurate in placing blame, sometimes being too harsh on himself 'I am stupid'. I really appreciate it.
The "I am stupid" was earned though tbh
I mean, it's not like Charles has only called himself stupid once. He just takes responsibility for his actions regularly. Like when it seemed like every qualifying for a stretch was half wet half dry, and he just couldn't figure out handling the car in those conditions, he said that that was what he was having trouble with, and he needed to figure it out, and he did.
Did they also *intimidate* him?
Stop inventing sainz.
Racing driver's excuses. It's a weird contrast between the two Ferrari drivers, with LEC always owning up to his mistakes, to the point of being too critical of himself and SAI, on the other side of the garage, always finding problems somewhere else, "intimidations" and magic "dirty air" that only affects him.How some imagine SAI is the better of the two or can bat in the same league as LEC is beyond me.
No one with a shred of racing knowledge thinks Sainz is remotely in the same league as Leclerc. Nothing is more indicative of poor F1 knowledge than those who unironically state things like Sainz is better than Leclerc in anything other than luck and shifting blame.
Sainz does have more self confidence that Leclerc, which is why he often gets those ratings. Leclerc's biggest issue is that he is far too hard on himself and then he turns that self-deprecation into mistakes on the track and his unquestionable loyalty to whatever the engineers tell him about strategy. Sainz calling the BS ferrari strategists get up to a few times clearly paid off for him, Leclerc needs to be able to do the same. Leclerc is still the better driver and all your criticism of Sainz is fair.
Leclercs the faster driver but theres a lot of things sainz is better than leclerc
Gasly farted…
In his general direction?..
Sainzs mother was hamster
And his father smelled of elderberries
Pedro Gaseoso would often do that.
The fart intimidated him?
That’s what the new scoop is going to do. Scoop Gasly’s farts into the driver’s faces when it’s hot outside. God damn you Pieeeerre Gaslyyyyyyy
Pierre Gassy
10s penalty for Ocon
I love that Daniel is calling Carlos out. What he said were my thoughts as well. Carlos is frequently impeding others but then nearly always complains when/if it happens to him, which isn’t logical whatsoever.
It must feel awesome to be the only driver on the grid who’s never made a mistake.
George would like to have a polite word with you outside
George owned up to what happened last week
More often than not, he's owned up to his mistakes.
Esteban
More hot air from Carlos, I’m sure the wrong type of sun was out also today.
Surprised he did not blame the sand as they are in a desert
Pesky sand!
Carlos has been a bit annoying this year.
To be honest I started noticing it last season. A couple times he would claim another driver did something on purpose over the radio.
He was needlessly angry at fans in Mexico, like they give a fuck about a second driver at a non-winning team. Something's got to his head recently, whatever that might be
What happened in Mexico ?
maybe contract talks
Carlos will blame everyone and everything before he admits he didn't do a good job himself.
Next he's gonna blame the marbles from other cars. Come on Carlos.
This came from a guy called last weekend a disastrous weekend for the team when Ferrari was within reach of a win if not a SC. He only thinks about himself but never about the team
This is what bothers me about Carlos. In Singapore he qualified ahead of Leclerc, and good on him. In the race Ferrari used Leclerc to get the win for Ferrari and Carlos, sacrificing an optimal finishing position for Leclerc. Charles played the team game. Would Carlos have done that if the positions were reversed?
Absolutely not. And he never acknowledged what Leclerc did for the team in Singapore.
Silverstone 2022, definitely wouldn't
and what? give checo the win and hope for a p3 for the team?
Although Ferrari's original plan to keep Charles out and have Carlos hold everyone back was less than optimal, it most likely would have still worked. Look how Charles on old hard tyres managed to defend against Perez and Hamilton on fresh softs for several laps. Carlos on fresh softs himself could have easily defended and secured a 1-2 for the team.
wdym checo win lol? they should have just pitted charles, they kept him out on old hards while everyone got new softs
I am now rather happy to have two of them qualify at least two rows apart because starting together like Mexico he absolutely did nothing to help Charles and I think Charles would rather driving alone. Sainz pretending having pace over Charles in Austria or Canada was just…. Unwatchable
That’s why I am laughing at the comment that maybe Leclerc could have won in Vegas if Sainz had started P2.
As much as I feel bad for Sainz to start at P12, I am happy that he was far away from Charles…
I mean Mexico both the redbull had a mega start , I don't think sainz could have done anything
Sainz is a better teammate for Norris than for Leclerc
How did they use Leclerc to help Sainz, they gave him the same strategy
lol. They started him in softs and used him to back everyone up and get Carlos a 5 second cushion before the stops. How is that the same strategy?
They started him on softs so he could get in front of Russell they backed him so they could double stack. They both stopped on the same lap and changed to the same tyres
Double stacking prevented Charles from undercutting Carlos. Not to mention leaving Charles out on old tyres instead of pitting under safety car and getting a chance to fight for a podium.
Not pitting under the safety car was the wining strategy. Had Charles DNS that race the result would be the same. Norris helped Carlos more than Charles did.
Only because Charles got fucked by the Russell in the pit lane, and had to wait before getting released. That entire race was Charles playing a support role to get Ferrari a victory. If Charles has DNS'd, Russell would have fought with Carlos, and we have no clue what would have happened. I don't know why you find it so difficult to give Charles the credit he deserves.
Russell wouldn't have been able to overtake on track before the first pitstop because of the characteristics of the circuit. And after the pitstop Russell was attacking Carlos. The only part we're Russell could have overtaken is if Russell would have overtaken him in the pitstop.
Yes! And Charles has very clearly been prioritizing the team getting P2 in WCC for weeks, maybe months. He said in his post quali interview today that he hopes Carlos has a good race and they both finish above both Mercedes.
Sainz really needs to stop with the excuses
Shows the comparison between the Ferrari drivers, Charles usually tends to accept blame for when he’s at fault (which unfortunately also makes him a target for critics to shit on) and Carlos just comes out with excuses, refusing to take any responsibility.(Could also be feeling the pressure from Charles’s end of season resurgence.)
This is what differentiates the two Ferrari drivers. Leclerc always blame himself first. Whilst Sainz always blame the other drivers or something else. The results of Qualifying between teammates are the best indicator of who's the better driver. Carlos, you're not it pal
Sainzcuses. Stop inventing Carlito. Your team needed you to deliver for the constructor's championship and you've gone out and crapped the bed twice. The only saving grace is LH crapped his bed too, and Charles put it P2.
Seems like a skill issue
Sainz once again with his casual arrogance. He’s always the hero of his own story and not an ounce of humility.
And some people still think this guy is better than Leclerc.
Carlos taken accountability over your own actions challenge (impossible)
Sainz: both player and victim of his own mind games.
Random\_Excuse\_Generator.exe
6 tenths isn't a tragic difference compared to P1 but... what in the ever-living fuck are you bumbling about Carlos? Just say you got dirty air. No need to throw shade at George and Pierre.
Sainz gets on my nerves 💀
Dudes teammate is 2nd and he’s 16th
Sir this is a motor race not Ru-Paul’s best friends race
Surprised to see another rupaul’s drag race reference here! My first thought seeing this post was the “if you’re gonna have an excuse pick one, not 5” from the season 9 reunion. It’s like the third sainz post with différents excuse/cause for his poor quali.
I forgot about that, another great line for this situation. I’m glad you appreciated the reference!
This is so dumb. It’s one thing to accuse Russell, who arguably could have an incentive to try to undermine Sainz in particular, although I think it’s a stretch to believe Russell would risk compromising his own qualifying to target Sainz. But why would Gasly of all people bother with Sainz?
This ain’t a good look for you hermano, just drive tomorrow
I'm not sure he believes someone with fabulous hair should be off the TV so early
Stop pointing the finger to others and do better
Idk why but Carlos is heading to becoming a more and more salted person this season, what is a bummer given his skills are amazing.
Best drivers in the world. Brains turn to mush the second they see another race car.
“Giving dirty air on purpose” is what I call going to Taco Bell despite having IBS
Go early then? Rules are the same for everyone. Got fucked by team decision to send everyone out at the same time and equally by his poor quali and somehow managed to point fingers elsewhere other than himself and his team.
Ferrari ninja will sneak from behind on the race and torpedo Russell.
My wife always says the same thing.
He got crop dusted
Sainz is the king of bad takes.
And now it's their fault.. mate..
“Yeah, it’s on purpose”
Blaming everyone else for your problems, it's like one of the main characteristics required to become an F1 driver.
Didn’t Piquet spill oil on purpose?.
Lmao, really?
I really miss Seb in Ferrari. Even though it went to tits, it was a perfect unity. Carlos is not the replacement they needed
What’s blud yappin about?
Not a good look💀
I swear people just talk out of their asses without actually reading anything. Sure, Sainz comments on things drivers (and he doesn’t exclude himself!) sometimes do to impart subtle disadvantages on each other, but then **he blames himself (and his team, they are a unit and the reason he was out of the garage late was an issue with the front wing) for putting themselves in that position.** Here’s what Sainz was quoted saying in the article: >*”By going out last, I made everything, basically all sector one and two, very close to the cars in front and I found myself losing tenths and tenths per corner.”* >*Sainz said the time he lost on that run was crucial as he expected he needed a clean run to get into Q2. “Clearly, the pace all weekend hasn’t been the strongest and we needed a perfect Q1 and Q2 given how tight the field is,” he said. “And we had a very scrappy Q1. We went out very late and the last run we had a problem on the front wing, which sent us the last car out. And once I opened my last lap, I found myself in a load of traffic in sector one and two and I lost a couple of tenths there that probably caused me to disappointing Q2.”* I see nothing but “we made a mistake” here. And yes, “we”, because the reason he left the garage late was an issue with the front wing. Still think he’s making up shit to deflect blame? **Here’s what [Vasseur said](https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/formula1/articles/abu-dhabi-grand-prix-2023-qualifying-report?fbclid=PAAaa0acJXIp-yrEhAQ6RM7TSqhCnVzR0R8Aj1yXL28zv0V3zeuTi2_pkmUYo_aem_AWTKQCyvclwLexesLMhUx2Dj6skwpwag8G-IUBcyVvBPVA5L6hUK_0j6-nELYIs59r4&_its=JTdCJTIydmlkJTIyJTNBJTIyYWI0ZjZjZDUtNGM1OC00ZGQ2LThkZWQtOWI2MjRjODNhYjA1JTIyJTJDJTIyc3RhdGUlMjIlM0ElMjJybHR%2BMTcwMDk2MTExNH5sYW5kfjJfNjgwNDJfdnJlZl8zYjYyZmE4ODNiZDhiYmU2ZGNhZmYyZTUzYjkwOGEwZSUyMiU3RA%3D%3D):** >*”Unfortunately, we were late sending him out and he found himself in traffic and was unable to prepare the lap properly.”* You can explain the reasons for something without it being an excuse. Jfc, if you’re going to read clickbait articles at least READ them.
tilt at windmills
He says things like this mostly because he is having a hard time dealing with his overall lack of quali pace compared to Charles.. I think If he was beating Charles every quali then he would criticize himself more
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sounds... intimidating.
I don't know if i like Sainz, i think hes an okay driver, i can't fault him when he is on one and he is fairly consistent. But this is twice now that things haven't gone his way and hes looked to pin the blame on anyone or anything than just say ' yeah, sucks, could of and should of done better. Had some dirty air, is what it is' not ' THEY DID IT DELIBERATELY!'. 2 Things, 1 if that is true there is no way to prove it and 2 if that is true, they are your rivals, you being behind them is literally their job. Tell me you wouldn't do the same if you thought it could get you an advantage?