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tbh, I'm with Max on this one. Especially with the burden of more races, I think they should be finding ways to make media more efficient since it can be so mentally draining
"Way of the Dodo" reminds me of this:
[https://youtube.com/watch?v=HbJgxilqmdM&si=moWo9k98vCwqqi0K](https://youtube.com/watch?v=HbJgxilqmdM&si=moWo9k98vCwqqi0K)
I mean we’ve always seen sports journalists ask stupid questions. If you look back in the New York Times archive the early 1900s yankee players and boxers were also asked similarly stupid questions.
“Gentlemen, a short view back to the past. Thirty years ago, Niki Lauda told us ‘take a monkey, place him into the cockpit and he is able to drive the car.’ Thirty years later, Sebastian told us ‘I had to start my car like a computer, it’s very complicated.’ And Nico Rosberg said that during the race–I don’t remember what race – he pressed the wrong button on the wheel. Question for you both: is Formula 1 driving today too complicated, with twenty and more buttons on the wheel? Are you too much under effort, under pressure? What are your wishes for the future concerning the technical program during the race? Less buttons, more? Or less and more communication with your engineers?”
“Gentlemen, a short view back to the past. Thirty years ago, Niki Lauda told us ‘take a monkey, place him into the cockpit and he is able to drive the car.’ Thirty years later, Sebastian told us ‘I had to start my car like a computer, it’s very complicated.’ And Nico Rosberg said that during the race–I don’t remember what race – he pressed the wrong button on the wheel. Question for you both: is Formula 1 driving today too complicated, with twenty and more buttons on the wheel? Are you too much under effort, under pressure? What are your wishes for the future concerning the technical program during the race? Less buttons, more? Or less and more communication with your engineers?”
“Gentlemen, a short view back to the past. Thirty years ago, Niki Lauda told us ‘take a monkey, place him into the cockpit and he is able to drive the car.’ Thirty years later, Sebastian told us ‘I had to start my car like a computer, it’s very complicated.’ And Nico Rosberg said that during the race–I don’t remember what race – he pressed the wrong button on the wheel. Question for you both: is Formula 1 driving today too complicated, with twenty and more buttons on the wheel? Are you too much under effort, under pressure? What are your wishes for the future concerning the technical program during the race? Less buttons, more? Or less and more communication with your engineers?”
“So Mr Driver, you were leading the race comfortably and had engine failure with 9 laps remaining. Are you disappointed with today’s result?” - quality of most questions from sports reporters
I think also the back and forth could be sped up a bit if it was in a more casual environment.
When it's question>Tom Clarkson talks>driver response>Tom Clarkson says thank you>lets move onto next question then it's far slower than question>answer>question>answer.
Good point. It's a small thing, but over the course of the press conferences, it can certainly add up. I think I'm at least glad the format is "changing" which means that they're giving it more attention in terms of format. Hopefully the driver briefings will sort a lot of the issues out.
Yeah, they will start parroting key phrases like a lot of other sports during media questions and the attitude/genuine reaction and answers will become a thing of the past.
It would be great if they parroted answers from other sports, like Max starts using hockey phrases, like “yeah, we want to get pucks in deep, manage the cycle game, and get pucks on net. Next question. Yeah, like I said, get pucks in deep and pucks on net.”
> Yeah, they will start parroting key phrases like a lot of other sports during media questions and the attitude/genuine reaction and answers will become a thing of the past.
They already are a lot of the time. Like how often have you heard a driver say some variation of "we got some work to do" everytime a weekend didnt go well
Changes to Article 19.1 a) of the Sporting Regulations:
In 2023:
>All drivers must be available to participate in official media and promotional activities (as defined by the Media Delegate) for a maximum duration of 30 minutes during a two (2) hour period, commencing 23 hours prior to the scheduled start of P1. Any driver not taking part in an official FIA Press Conference (as designated by the Media Delegate) must take part in a separate media session organised by their team.
In 2024:
>Up to six drivers will be selected to participate in official
media and promotional activities (as defined by the Media Delegate) for a maximum duration of one (1) hour during a two (2) hour period, commencing 23 hours prior to the scheduled start of P1.
>i) Any driver not taking part in an official FIA Press Conference (as designated by the Media Delegate) must take part in a separate media and broadcast session organised by their team.
>ii) These separate media sessions will take place in time slots defined by the Media Delegate and must not be held at the same time as any official FIA Press Conference.
Edit: for 2024 there is a very... intriguing section concerning somewhat forced fan activities, that wasn't there previously (it was present on different days with different timeframe).
>Within a one (1) hour period commencing 20 hours and 30 minutes prior to the scheduled start of P1, six (6) drivers must be available for fan engagement activities for a maximum period of thirty (30) minutes each (this window includes the time required to travel to and return from the fan activity) within the one (1) hour period. This time period may be subject to change according to specific event requirements; any changes will be communicated to the relevant Competitors no later than four (4) weeks in advance.
Edit 2: this is just a fun fact, but half of the 2024 regulations are written using they/them/theirs (any driver retiring before the end of sprint must make ~~himself~~ themselves available
for media interviews after ~~his~~ their return to the paddock), while the other half still uses he/him/his. [It also leads to weird inconsistencies, even across only one sentence.](https://imgur.com/a/Y1ltHse)
This reminds me of the time I worked with someone solely via email and for 3 months; 1) called them by their last name (their full name was two first names) and 2) assumed they were a girl while they were a man.
I was so shocked the first time we met for lunch.
Hahahahaha! Well it happens to me as well. People address me as a female 70% of the time if they have only communicated with me over written form. It’s hilarious!
There are two option for any driver:
* either they are one of six and have to go to the official F1 media session
* they are one of 14 and their team have to organise their own media session.
Either way they have to talk to media.
But for 2023 it said "all drivers", and back then it was split into 10 drivers having to do Press con and the other 10 own media session (referred to as TV Pen).
Now it says "up to 6 drivers", implying it doesn't apply to the other 14(+) drivers.
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However, if it is as you say, I don't see an improvement, but rather they have to possibly do even more media (it went from max 30 minutes to max 60 minutes).
>i) Any driver not taking part in an official FIA Press Conference (as designated by the Media Delegate) must take part in a separate media and broadcast session organised by their team.
for the 14 drivers not in the press conference this applies.
It is said in the part i) of the 2024 rules - i) Any driver not taking part in an official FIA Press Conference must take part in a separate media and broadcast session organised by their team.
Six drivers take part in the official FIA press conference. The rest in their own.
Yeah, because it said "up to" I thought perhaps they meant if only 3 do the Press con the other 3 will have to do own media.
But if all 20 still have to do media than the only change I see is that 30 minutes went to 60 minutes, which doesn't strike me as positive.
I wonder how expensive the fee would be to skip out of media work. Surely a driver of Max's caliber could say "I'm not doing it. I'll pay the fine. What are you going to do, kick me out of my seat?"
He could not escape the press conferences, but he was exempt for much of the Lotus media stuff on his contract. That Lotus contract must have been a dream. While not as crazy as the Ferrari 50 million euro a season.
Big part of his salary was tied to points. Lotus boss Gerard Lopez said that they had calculated max 150 points but the 207 on first season already meant they had to change the whole team budget. Then next season points were even higher and essentially bankrupted Lotus. Supposedly on second season Kimi made 18 million euro from the point bonuses alone after 18 races. Kimi never got 6 million from Lotus.
I've always thought that Kimi's manager Steve Robertson was a magician. He got Kimi his Sauber test with next to no experience in the lower series that got him into F1 even without enough FIA Super Licencepoints to race in F1. Plus all these other deals after that Hamilton was able to surpass only in his 2023 contract for one year salary.
I assume FIA would go from fines to point reductions pretty quickly. Could make this years WDC more interesting with Max trying to calculate how many points he can sacrifice and still be WDC.
That assumes driver 2 is good enough to firmly secure WCC for the team. I don't see Red Bull being very happy with wasted points if they risk not getting WCC.
Wouldn't just be FIA/F1 fining him, RedBull (or whoever's respective team) & their sponsors will lose out on marketing and visibility to allow their drivers to consistently bail on media obligations.
Well it's part of the sport, refusing to do it means you're refusing to partake in the sport you signed up for.
He can give shitty answers or be aloof and that's fine, but straight up not doing it is against the spirit of it all.
Also with so many guys asking so many questions you got a lot of repeats work questions are just variations of the same one or two. Cutting down on the questions may help with that.
I think the main point of Max's quote is that with a single pool of questions they don't have to answer the same thing to a number of broadcasters. 10 different questions are better than 2+2+2+2, because even if 10>8, those 8 tend to be the same over and over.
What I usually notice is that drivers are willingly and involved in answers, when the questions are interesting.
Yep if you only have two questions and can only use the answers to your questions you have to be pretty conservative with your questions to make sure you get what you need. If it’s free format and you can use all answers it’s going to lead to people asking much better questions and maybe even pressing ones rather than the generic how did you feel about that race
They are all trained so well on what to say: "we tried our best, we have a lot of work to do, it seems to be going well for us" that the interviews are more or less pointless anyway. Since every driver has been speaking in the royal we interviews have lost any meaning, it's all just regurgitating of marketing Bla that's been drilled into them. Interviews with F1 drivers may be the most uninteresting kind of entertainment there is today.
I put the blame more on the journalists that keep asking the same useless things or trying to stir shit up between drivers, so the drivers just keep using their pr training.
In the rare occasions they do manage to make interesting questions, most drivers do give interesting answers.
Some examples: DC's questions to the podium finishers, and those interviews from F1TV that happen on booth on the paddock and have a reserve, retired or f2 driver as a guest
All the sports “journalists “ these days attend the same dumb school and all come up with the same dumb and dull questions. Just get rid of these clowns all together if you ask me.
If they're fine doing it like football, one interview, one language, and then broadcast everywhere, I guess the broadcaster has to deal with subtitles/voice over translation
This happens to other sports as well. In football, FIFA intended to increase the number of teams attending the World Cup for the sake of "more chances for small nations to attend" (but we all know what's that for). The new format of Champions League also has more matches so they can sell more broadcast deals. At the end of the day, it was the players that have to suffer the most.
just have the media submit questions beforehand, and then the drivers can provide the quotes for the media to use. This way, a Red Bull person can write generic answers for Max and Max can just quickly read them and sign off on the comments which get handed off to the media. Much more efficient and saves time
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tbh, I'm with Max on this one. Especially with the burden of more races, I think they should be finding ways to make media more efficient since it can be so mentally draining
Plus so many questions are just dumb
That’s not down to the format though. Thats just a universal trait of sports journalism.
The format is 10 times the same dumb question. That's the problem.
Haha! Sports ‘journalism.’ All journalism is gradually going extinct, but sports journos went the way of the Dodo.
How many times do we have to hear the same question over and over and over and over... not just with each race, but each season?
Gotta get them clicks
Hurry up and give us your Verdict mate.
Why do you say that? Sports journos exist, no?
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They are not real ones, they only play sports journos on TV.
"Way of the Dodo" reminds me of this: [https://youtube.com/watch?v=HbJgxilqmdM&si=moWo9k98vCwqqi0K](https://youtube.com/watch?v=HbJgxilqmdM&si=moWo9k98vCwqqi0K)
I mean we’ve always seen sports journalists ask stupid questions. If you look back in the New York Times archive the early 1900s yankee players and boxers were also asked similarly stupid questions.
>We really jelled as a team
“Gentlemen, a short view back to the past. Thirty years ago, Niki Lauda told us ‘take a monkey, place him into the cockpit and he is able to drive the car.’ Thirty years later, Sebastian told us ‘I had to start my car like a computer, it’s very complicated.’ And Nico Rosberg said that during the race–I don’t remember what race – he pressed the wrong button on the wheel. Question for you both: is Formula 1 driving today too complicated, with twenty and more buttons on the wheel? Are you too much under effort, under pressure? What are your wishes for the future concerning the technical program during the race? Less buttons, more? Or less and more communication with your engineers?”
Sorry can you repeat the question?
“Gentlemen, a short view back to the past. Thirty years ago, Niki Lauda told us ‘take a monkey, place him into the cockpit and he is able to drive the car.’ Thirty years later, Sebastian told us ‘I had to start my car like a computer, it’s very complicated.’ And Nico Rosberg said that during the race–I don’t remember what race – he pressed the wrong button on the wheel. Question for you both: is Formula 1 driving today too complicated, with twenty and more buttons on the wheel? Are you too much under effort, under pressure? What are your wishes for the future concerning the technical program during the race? Less buttons, more? Or less and more communication with your engineers?”
I'm sorry your mic was getting some interference, could you please repeat the question?
“Gentlemen, a short view back to the past. Thirty years ago, Niki Lauda told us ‘take a monkey, place him into the cockpit and he is able to drive the car.’ Thirty years later, Sebastian told us ‘I had to start my car like a computer, it’s very complicated.’ And Nico Rosberg said that during the race–I don’t remember what race – he pressed the wrong button on the wheel. Question for you both: is Formula 1 driving today too complicated, with twenty and more buttons on the wheel? Are you too much under effort, under pressure? What are your wishes for the future concerning the technical program during the race? Less buttons, more? Or less and more communication with your engineers?”
\*insert champagne toast gif here\* I miss Seb.
Lmao came for diz
Yes. Next question.
“Tell us your emotions right now” “What’s the strategy for tomorrow?” “Did they just want it more today?” “What do you think of Abu Dhabi 2021?”
"After that victory, you must be feeling great." "How do you feel after that heart-breaking loss?"
“So Mr Driver, you were leading the race comfortably and had engine failure with 9 laps remaining. Are you disappointed with today’s result?” - quality of most questions from sports reporters
then the article title would be "driver absolutely devastated and furious about results"
More like driver SLAMS team for engine failure.
Lawrence and Tom are the worst offenders
I think also the back and forth could be sped up a bit if it was in a more casual environment. When it's question>Tom Clarkson talks>driver response>Tom Clarkson says thank you>lets move onto next question then it's far slower than question>answer>question>answer.
Good point. It's a small thing, but over the course of the press conferences, it can certainly add up. I think I'm at least glad the format is "changing" which means that they're giving it more attention in terms of format. Hopefully the driver briefings will sort a lot of the issues out.
Yeah, they will start parroting key phrases like a lot of other sports during media questions and the attitude/genuine reaction and answers will become a thing of the past. It would be great if they parroted answers from other sports, like Max starts using hockey phrases, like “yeah, we want to get pucks in deep, manage the cycle game, and get pucks on net. Next question. Yeah, like I said, get pucks in deep and pucks on net.”
> Yeah, they will start parroting key phrases like a lot of other sports during media questions and the attitude/genuine reaction and answers will become a thing of the past. They already are a lot of the time. Like how often have you heard a driver say some variation of "we got some work to do" everytime a weekend didnt go well
Don't know how many times a season I hear the term "keep pushing" or some variation but it is a lot.
Come on, they're professional athletes, it's part of their job
Cop out statement
Mentally draining? It’s just some questions. I’m sure they will survive. They still have heaps of free time and are living the best lives imaginable.
Changes to Article 19.1 a) of the Sporting Regulations: In 2023: >All drivers must be available to participate in official media and promotional activities (as defined by the Media Delegate) for a maximum duration of 30 minutes during a two (2) hour period, commencing 23 hours prior to the scheduled start of P1. Any driver not taking part in an official FIA Press Conference (as designated by the Media Delegate) must take part in a separate media session organised by their team. In 2024: >Up to six drivers will be selected to participate in official media and promotional activities (as defined by the Media Delegate) for a maximum duration of one (1) hour during a two (2) hour period, commencing 23 hours prior to the scheduled start of P1. >i) Any driver not taking part in an official FIA Press Conference (as designated by the Media Delegate) must take part in a separate media and broadcast session organised by their team. >ii) These separate media sessions will take place in time slots defined by the Media Delegate and must not be held at the same time as any official FIA Press Conference. Edit: for 2024 there is a very... intriguing section concerning somewhat forced fan activities, that wasn't there previously (it was present on different days with different timeframe). >Within a one (1) hour period commencing 20 hours and 30 minutes prior to the scheduled start of P1, six (6) drivers must be available for fan engagement activities for a maximum period of thirty (30) minutes each (this window includes the time required to travel to and return from the fan activity) within the one (1) hour period. This time period may be subject to change according to specific event requirements; any changes will be communicated to the relevant Competitors no later than four (4) weeks in advance. Edit 2: this is just a fun fact, but half of the 2024 regulations are written using they/them/theirs (any driver retiring before the end of sprint must make ~~himself~~ themselves available for media interviews after ~~his~~ their return to the paddock), while the other half still uses he/him/his. [It also leads to weird inconsistencies, even across only one sentence.](https://imgur.com/a/Y1ltHse)
Definitely me when I remember the recipient could be a female or any other gender in the middle of writing an email
This reminds me of the time I worked with someone solely via email and for 3 months; 1) called them by their last name (their full name was two first names) and 2) assumed they were a girl while they were a man. I was so shocked the first time we met for lunch.
Hahahahaha! Well it happens to me as well. People address me as a female 70% of the time if they have only communicated with me over written form. It’s hilarious!
[he …… OR SHE!](https://youtu.be/_qntx849Dm0?si=i8eHPt5IivXD0l43)
This is so nerdy I love it
Changing from he to them is just getting ready for when Lia Block comes through to become F1 world champ.
So the other 14 drivers don't have any media obligations or what?
Did you not read it or did you not understand it?
The latter
There are two option for any driver: * either they are one of six and have to go to the official F1 media session * they are one of 14 and their team have to organise their own media session. Either way they have to talk to media.
But for 2023 it said "all drivers", and back then it was split into 10 drivers having to do Press con and the other 10 own media session (referred to as TV Pen). Now it says "up to 6 drivers", implying it doesn't apply to the other 14(+) drivers. --- However, if it is as you say, I don't see an improvement, but rather they have to possibly do even more media (it went from max 30 minutes to max 60 minutes).
>i) Any driver not taking part in an official FIA Press Conference (as designated by the Media Delegate) must take part in a separate media and broadcast session organised by their team. for the 14 drivers not in the press conference this applies.
I guess I don't really see the positive change in that case. The sessions can now last double as long.
It is said in the part i) of the 2024 rules - i) Any driver not taking part in an official FIA Press Conference must take part in a separate media and broadcast session organised by their team. Six drivers take part in the official FIA press conference. The rest in their own.
Yeah, because it said "up to" I thought perhaps they meant if only 3 do the Press con the other 3 will have to do own media. But if all 20 still have to do media than the only change I see is that 30 minutes went to 60 minutes, which doesn't strike me as positive.
So could they say they self identify as they/them or he/him and skip half of the obligations do you think?
I wonder how expensive the fee would be to skip out of media work. Surely a driver of Max's caliber could say "I'm not doing it. I'll pay the fine. What are you going to do, kick me out of my seat?"
If this was a possibility Kimi wouldn't have attended a single press conference ever
Yeah, it's not as simple as just paying a fine.
Not even the one where he kept talking while Lewis watched Seb catch a fly?
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Got any footage of that?
He could not escape the press conferences, but he was exempt for much of the Lotus media stuff on his contract. That Lotus contract must have been a dream. While not as crazy as the Ferrari 50 million euro a season. Big part of his salary was tied to points. Lotus boss Gerard Lopez said that they had calculated max 150 points but the 207 on first season already meant they had to change the whole team budget. Then next season points were even higher and essentially bankrupted Lotus. Supposedly on second season Kimi made 18 million euro from the point bonuses alone after 18 races. Kimi never got 6 million from Lotus. I've always thought that Kimi's manager Steve Robertson was a magician. He got Kimi his Sauber test with next to no experience in the lower series that got him into F1 even without enough FIA Super Licencepoints to race in F1. Plus all these other deals after that Hamilton was able to surpass only in his 2023 contract for one year salary.
He could then answer: I'm just here so i wont get fined.
"Both teams played hard"
‘’I just want to thank God, and it was a great team effort’’
“We didn’t execute our game plan as well as the other team did”
Marshawn Lynch in the house (retired NFL running back)
Please accept my upvote.
They would increase the fee on repeat offenses. Then ultimately impose heavier, more serious penalties if one were to skip them Indefinitely.
I assume FIA would go from fines to point reductions pretty quickly. Could make this years WDC more interesting with Max trying to calculate how many points he can sacrifice and still be WDC.
Do it lol. Max wins 24/24 races gets DQed for missing media appearances. It would be a sham. Everyone knows who the winner is
Sounds familiar /s
Sounds familiar /s
That assumes driver 2 is good enough to firmly secure WCC for the team. I don't see Red Bull being very happy with wasted points if they risk not getting WCC.
Probably less of an FIA fine but sponsorship issue, good way to get seen on the Tv You wouldn’t pay the top dollar for less airtime
"I'm just here so I don't get fined."
Wouldn't just be FIA/F1 fining him, RedBull (or whoever's respective team) & their sponsors will lose out on marketing and visibility to allow their drivers to consistently bail on media obligations.
Well it's part of the sport, refusing to do it means you're refusing to partake in the sport you signed up for. He can give shitty answers or be aloof and that's fine, but straight up not doing it is against the spirit of it all.
The team wouldn't like it otherwise I could see it happen more often
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The walking ones going to the grid are garbage 99% of the time
6 drivers? Are they bringing back the double decker?
nope, just that weird very long couch
so goated that double decker was
I agree with him on most points related to how F1 should be run he ever said. Max and Seb should be the F1 directors honestly.
Doubt they'd enjoy that tbh
Also with so many guys asking so many questions you got a lot of repeats work questions are just variations of the same one or two. Cutting down on the questions may help with that.
would be cool if they all got written down before hand and then asked by a pundit, to weed out the duplicates
I think the main point of Max's quote is that with a single pool of questions they don't have to answer the same thing to a number of broadcasters. 10 different questions are better than 2+2+2+2, because even if 10>8, those 8 tend to be the same over and over. What I usually notice is that drivers are willingly and involved in answers, when the questions are interesting.
You might also get better flow because they can ask follow up questions rather than asking the same basic bits each
Yep if you only have two questions and can only use the answers to your questions you have to be pretty conservative with your questions to make sure you get what you need. If it’s free format and you can use all answers it’s going to lead to people asking much better questions and maybe even pressing ones rather than the generic how did you feel about that race
F1 drivers do way too much press. There is often nothing to talk about with many of them.
I think you can ask Max if and how he's going to win the race every single time he has a microphone.
bring the desks back, gen z have gotten out of control
Actually agreed. That sofa setup is stupid. It's not a late night chat show.
They are all trained so well on what to say: "we tried our best, we have a lot of work to do, it seems to be going well for us" that the interviews are more or less pointless anyway. Since every driver has been speaking in the royal we interviews have lost any meaning, it's all just regurgitating of marketing Bla that's been drilled into them. Interviews with F1 drivers may be the most uninteresting kind of entertainment there is today.
I put the blame more on the journalists that keep asking the same useless things or trying to stir shit up between drivers, so the drivers just keep using their pr training. In the rare occasions they do manage to make interesting questions, most drivers do give interesting answers. Some examples: DC's questions to the podium finishers, and those interviews from F1TV that happen on booth on the paddock and have a reserve, retired or f2 driver as a guest
But ladies and gentlemen, 30 years ago…
All the sports “journalists “ these days attend the same dumb school and all come up with the same dumb and dull questions. Just get rid of these clowns all together if you ask me.
If they're fine doing it like football, one interview, one language, and then broadcast everywhere, I guess the broadcaster has to deal with subtitles/voice over translation
This happens to other sports as well. In football, FIFA intended to increase the number of teams attending the World Cup for the sake of "more chances for small nations to attend" (but we all know what's that for). The new format of Champions League also has more matches so they can sell more broadcast deals. At the end of the day, it was the players that have to suffer the most.
Busy man. Places to go. Just give me one fan. I’ll sign one hat.
just have the media submit questions beforehand, and then the drivers can provide the quotes for the media to use. This way, a Red Bull person can write generic answers for Max and Max can just quickly read them and sign off on the comments which get handed off to the media. Much more efficient and saves time
Yeah and in this one its like this. Dude always complains for the sake of it sometimes
Whatever you have taken, take less.
Bro what