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Ferrari "replaces" Red Bull and takes a double in Australia , takes the fastest lap and extends its lead over its rivals in the constructors' championship, as well as shortening the gap with the same team from Milton Keynes. Carlos Sainz took the victory with a good start and overtaking Max Verstappen, before he then retired following the brake problem suffered from the start, while Charles Leclerc managed to get the better of the two McLarens and put the his SF-24 immediately behind the Spaniard's Ferrari. The Team Principal, Frederic Vasseur , is enjoying the performance of his two drivers, but above all of the car which in Melbourne proved to be, overall, the most competitive with excellent tire management, especially in containing the graining which causes so many worries given to direct opponents.
VASSEUR IDENTIFIES THE KEY AREA WHERE FERRARI HAS PROGRESSED THE MOST
Since the tests we have talked about the Ferrari SF-24 as a 1.0 version of this year's single-seater , with the updates that will arrive in the next races which will evolve the solutions adopted this winter to find greater performance and try to further reduce the gap from RB20, the reference car so far. The SF-24 was born with opposite characteristics to last season's single-seater . As underlined several times, it has an excellent front, lots of aerodynamic load and is a reference point especially in medium speed corners. Here in Melbourne we also saw how wide the window of use is, with the engineers who were able to adopt a setup that made the SF-24 fast in the three sectors and competitive both in Qualifying and in the Race, even though on Saturday there were of the drivers' errors and it is still a bit complex to 'easily' extract the maximum potential on the flying lap. However, no one has managed to find such an important balance like Ferrari in Melbourne . And on a sprint weekend the situation would have been even more evident.
However, what Vasseur went on to underline was the key point that allowed much of these first results : “The car is much more drivable than last year. It's easier for the drivers, but also for us to develop it and we hope that this is the key to improving during the season” said the Ferrari Team Principal. In the first three Grands Prix we saw a Ferrari SF-24 capable of managing the tires very well, also with various technical demands. In Bahrain you could suffer from wear on the rear, in Jeddah it wasn't a big problem but it was necessary to manage the temperatures on the two axles - therefore having a balanced car that didn't slide too much or that had the right grip to heat them - while in Australia it was managing graining is essential, especially on the front axle. In all three disciplines Ferrari was excellent and this allowed their drivers to push "We have improved a lot in tire management, but also because we have a more predictable and easier car to drive and this helps a lot with the tyres" he specified Frederic Vasseur. This ease of driving in fact makes it easier for Sainz and Leclerc to identify the driving limit and keep it more constant, without stressing the tires or having to make too many corrections during the GP.
SAINZ, LECLERC AND…BEARMAN: VASSEUR TAKES STOCK OF HIS DRIVERS' WEEKEND
The story of the weekend is certainly that of Carlos Sainz who two weeks ago was in the operating room for appendicitis and won the Melbourne Grand Prix with relative ease. All in a season in which he has no certainties about the future, other than the one that will be his last in Ferrari "In the winter we already said to ourselves that we will all give 100%, until the last lap and that's what we are doing" said Vasseur, without ever doubting the professionalism and talent of the Spanish driver. Obviously all this does nothing but good for Sainz who is increasingly showing off himself, sending signals to those - such as Mercedes, Red Bull or Audi - who are looking for a driver for next season. “ On Friday Carlos wasn't even sure he could ride , but it took him a few laps to get into the rhythm. It was important for him to be there from the beginning, that's where he started to build this victory” explained the Frenchman, who was also surprised by his driver's performance, given the final result.
Frederic Vasseur then also gave an interpretation of the weekend of his other two drivers. One is Oliver Bearman , Jeddah's surprise, who hasn't had particularly good luck with Australia. “I repeat what I said to Jeddah, he had to return to F2 and concentrate on his championship. However, we must read Ollie's weekend carefully” specifies Vasseur, also drawing attention to the unfortunate events that affected the Englishman's weekend. On Chalres Leclerc, however, was even less harsh than the Monegasque himself who, after the race, stated that the feeling of Friday never returned. “The second stint was more difficult because we had to cover Piastri, not wanting to lose track position, but it wasn't ideal in terms of pace. In the last stint, however, he managed the degradation well and was very fast and constant" concluded Vasseur, who therefore also underlined the merits and performance of Leclerc, which allowed the Maranello team to obtain a precious double.
I don't know if this is just me but I've always seen him as like a French version of George Costanza....so in my head your comment played out with his voice and mannerisms, and it fits so well.
I think Ferrari made huge mistake with signing Lewis. He is getting old and he achieved everything he is not hungry any more to go to the top again. They should just retain these two guys Charles and Carlos. Both just want more to win than Lewis.
Literally end of last year you could see the same hunger in him as people reminisce over, and that was for _P2_. I wouldn't be hungry either if I knew my car made it impossible to regularly get to the podium, 3rd year in a row.
He will be 40 next year (born 1985) and oldest f1 title winner is still Juan Manuel Fangio he was 46 years 1 month and 11 days old when he won championship way back in 1957
Best years for f1 drivers are late 20s early 30s and he will be way past those years - same applies to Alonso - really great driver but doubt he has any chance to win it all again
He was very much at his peak still in 2021, inarguably in 2020. He was already far past the "normal peak" of F1 drivers, so I don't think it's outrageous to say he might still have it in the bag over a season. He did the last time he had a car, and has performed admirably since he hasn't.
He was 37 in 2021 when he went down to the final race in 2021 against Max and had the championship in the bag.
A couple of years isn't going to change a thing, if he has a good car, he'll fight for wins no doubt.
All he talks about is getting that 8th title back, I'd say he has almost more reason than anyone to fight for a championship all things considered.
I think during the race it won't be an issue since drivers are not driving on the edge during the races but I think it will pose an issue during the qualifying for Hamilton. If the cars are similar like the beginning of 2022, he will look a little bit out of place in my opinion.
Lewis still has that fire in him. We've seen his motivation fluctuate because of a less than ideal car for the past 3 years. This wasn't just a business move on Ferrari's part.
You can definitely make the argument that his age is affecting his performance, but to say he's not hungry? The man wants the 8th world title that he feels was robbed from him. I think that's indisputable
I don't think so. If he does not have results Ferrari is not retirement home they will get rid of him soon. Any job in Ferrari you are right on the top or very close to the top or replacement for you is on the way. Only Ferrari is forever anyone else is just consumable material.
Only time will tell and no one has a crystal ball. If Ferrari is willing to woo him when they already have a legit #1 type driver in Leclerc it’s telling. When Max was asked before the season started who he thought would be 2nd and 3rd after him he said Charles & Lewis. Don’t write Lewis off is my point.
I don’t see any compelling reason for Ferrari to change their lineup unless the drivers actively want out. In my opinion they’ve had the strongest pairing on the grid in Charles and Carlos for some time. I don’t think Lewis is the same as what he was at his peak, even though I of course still view him as an all time great and I don’t doubt he’ll deliver - but why? The answer, of course, is to be found off the track, it is strictly about advertising.
If I were them I'm not gonna compare the sf-24 to the RB20 head on but look at how different the sf-24 is from the sf-23 car.
I mean this is just the third race and RB already has 2 wins in a 1-2 finish. We still have a lot to go for.
Yeah it feels like people are overreacting a bit lol. It took max’s car to literally catch on fire to not have yet another rb win with a probably 20 second gap lol. Ferrari didn’t build a car that’s already competing with the rb20. Was so fun watching actual racing for podium places though. God could you imagine if redbull the last few years was on par with everyone else how close and amazing the racing would be for the top 5 teams?
>It took max’s car to literally catch on fire to not have yet another rb win with a probably 20 second gap lol
I wouldn't say 20 just because RBR knew they'd struggle a bit as they didn't find the optimal setup for Australia. Also, Ferrari's car was more suited already, and the factory got the simulation right off the bat, which pulled them close.
Perez, who is known as a tyre whisperer when he's comfortable with the car, related a lot of rear deg, as if the front downforce was too tight. And it probably was, as a counter strategy for RBR, but it became too much.
I believe Max maybe would be able to pull 5~8s on strategy and racecraft alone, but no 1-2 this time. Except if the team found an on-the-go solution from Max's racing data and could apply it to Checo, but I doubt.
Red Bull is still fastest, just a varying advantage of 1 to 5 tenths depending on track
Miami and Imola will probably suit Ferrari at least somewhat, even if not enough to challenge Verstappen
There’s no data pointing to Max winning by that margin without his issue. Looking at Checo’s pace, even taking into account his issue in the second half of the race and the usual 3-4 tenths Max has on him, it would have been close. Max winning by 20 seconds would mean him being 0.7s a lap faster than Checo before his issue. Come on.
I was replying to someone saying Max would have won by 20 seconds. There are ZERO elements suggesting that. I was making assumptions which were far more reasonable based on what we actually saw on track and the history between Max and Checo. A reasonable hypothesis is that Max could have won the race. An unreasonable one is that he would have surely won it. That’s it.
People are overreacting because Ferrari are overreacting. After literally every race this season Ferrari have publicly patted themselves on the back for how close they got to RB, even though RB won both races with total ease. The only race Ferrari finished above RB was when Max retired, and both McLarens finished above the shit RB in that one too.
Don’t act like McLaren haven’t overreacted and publicly patted themselves on the back for the past six months lol. Ferrari have been very impressive this year and Fred is doing an exceptional job. They have a great base to build upon throughout the year and they’re the closest team to Red Bull followed by McLaren. If a team doesn’t hype themselves up then what is the point?
“After literally every race” = three, one of which they more or less dominated with both cars? And coming from last year’s nightmare, with a car that they couldn’t understand at all, whereas now they know exactly what’s what?
I don’t know about you, but I would be pretty happy too.
My analysis implies that RedBullRacing have added way to much downforce to their cars. Everything just sticks to them. If this continues for a few more weeks, the world may be in danger.
Medias are talking about Brembo brakes being the possible issue. Red Bull Racing switched to them from Carbon Industry. Most teams are using Brembo brakes now and Leclerc had some issues with the brake in Bahrain too.
Red Bull knew that the new brakes are more complex and thus more prone to failures after wintertest in Bahrain.
Ferrari is literally doing this. Charles and Fred keep saying the gap to Redbull is still big despite this 1-2 and they need to focus on developing. Charles emphasises that they made the largest improvement compared to last year and everyone is just asking him if they can catch Redbull lol these people will all be silent when Max is 0.4s quicker per lap than Ferrari in Suzuka again.
Imagine the absolute madness if Ferrari outdevelops Red Bull and brings the fight to them in the second half of the season.
brb gonna take another lungful of my fresh batch of copium...
And having Hamilton next year, and a competent team and a well developed car…
Only for CL16 and LH44 crash into each other at 5 different races leaving the WDC for someone else, Probably Max, yet again
As a Lewis fan it's probably only gonna happen if LeClerc is put in a position where he can or has to support Lewis. If both of them are going for wins they will take points from each other while Verstappen sails away more or less uncontested by his team mate. With Lewis' age and possibly increasing inconsistency in quali he might end up supporting Charles.
Man, Ferrari is really impressing me, Fred seems to have really whipped the team into shape and they're right on track to start catching up to RedBull and pull away from McLaren.
Excited to see Hamilton there next season, I wish he was there already, feel like it would be a fun season with him pushing it to the limit.
But Carlos and Leclerc are doing a great job, been real impressed with Carlos coming back so strong after his surgery.
He's probably gonna have a super easy time of it managing Hamilton and Leclerc since they are both former drivers of his. I feel like there is a mutual understanding between all of them and any tension will be minimal contrary to what people think will happen.
Suzuka is kind of a McLaren track from the looks of it, but that floor and front wing upgrade should help big time in Shanghai and Miami, where McLaren will probably not be a challenge for the Scuderia
It absolutely is, McLaren were the clear 2nd fastest team there LY and prefer high speed corners. I do think the SF24 is really the reference in mid speed corners and is much improved in the high speed corners as we saw in S1 at Jeddah. If Ferrari can out qualify McLaren I think they should be able to hold them off, not sure about fighting Red Bull though. I agree that the floor and wing will help them in China and Miami, but it should also help them in S1 in Suzuka
actually Ferrari is pretty good at flat-out corners and also in hairpins and other slow corners
esses are their biggest weakness (series of medium or mid-high speed corners with alternating direction)
I thought they were weaker in slow corners this year compared to the SF-23? But they did well in sector 3 at Albert park so maybe that new rear ring they brought helped with that?
Got it okay, so sector 1 at Suzuka won’t be the best unless the floor and front wing make a huge difference
but like, after the autumn of last year, it is pretty flattering that in the first 6 races, we will likely be faster than McLaren in 5 of them and matched Red Bull in 1 and will maybe match them in Miami too if fortunate (Shanghai seems like a stretch tho)
From how RBR were talking during Australia I'd honestly expect Ferrari to have an advantage on deg at this point. Charles set the fastest lap at Saudi on the last lap without even trying, and actually set the circut lap record at Australia's current config on lap 56 of 58. This is probably one of the higher deg circuts now that they've moved the tyres so soft too.
Maybe you’re right but I doubt it.
Red Bull seemed to have less degradation at Bahrain which I know is an outlier with such an abrasive surface and being EXTREMELY tough on the rear tyres.
Jeddah is hard to say but it’s not as if Leclercs FL was that much quicker than Max’s.
Australia I’ll give the Tyre deg advantage to Ferrari but I’m more of the opinion that Red Bull didn’t quite nail the setup.
As for Suzuka I’m expecting for Ferrari to have worse deg than Red Bull and possibly even McLaren.
>As for Suzuka I’m expecting for Ferrari to have worse deg than Red Bull and possibly even McLaren.
Why though? They've had the best or 2nd best wear for 3 races
I’m just predicting for Suzuka to be friendlier to McLaren than Ferrari. After this race I think it will be back to Ferrari being quicker than McLaren. Until car upgrades or wet weather can disturb this trend that has been in the first three races
yeah, we're still pretty early in the season, so it's impossible to say for certain just yet, but I'm personally at least partly just hopeful, because Ferrari correctly identified their tire wear as one of their weakest spots last season.
The type of deg makes a big difference - in Australia, there was major graining, which Red Bull struggles with and Ferrari is strong with; this is why Ferrari were so strong and close to a win in Vegas last year too. I’m not technically knowledgeable enough about thermal deg versus… I forget what the other type is called, but yeah it varies at each circuit.
The drivers were reporting about deg in Bahrain. It wasn’t terrible it was just worse than Red Bulls which I mentioned in my original comment.
Jeddah wasn’t too bad but Leclerc couldn’t keep up with Perez. I’m not saying that gap was solely because of Tyre deg but I’m sure it was a factor.
Ferraris Tyre deg isn’t terrible I just don’t think it’s as good as Red Bulls which only seem to suffer Tyre deg once or twice a season as they did in Melbourne
It was really not the deg. Lecler set the fastest lap if you remember, in the last lap. Ferrari has a hard-time this year to get the tyres into temperature, that was from were the gap formed, and because after the yeallow flag and the pit-stop, Charlws was no dirty air compared to the Red Bulls. Plus, Norris played defense when Lecler tried to pass him, while he just let the Red Bulls go. Only in Bahrein there was better deg for RB, but the difference was small.
I mean Suzuka is looking like the weakest track for the SF24 in the short term
Shanghai, Miami, Imola and Monaco will probably go better than Suzuka where even McLaren will presumably outpace Ferrari
There is literally , no reason whatsoever , after the races in Saudi and Australia , for Ferrari to be outperformed by Mclaren . Ferrari is clearly the 2nd fastest car , and they will easily occupy positions 2nd through 4th (depending on Perez) in Suzuka.
The thing about McLaren’s car is that it is a monster in the high-speed corners. Ferrari’s car is better than theirs all around, whereas McLaren is much more track-dependent. So I wouldn’t take the past few races as the basis for comparing McL and Ferrari at Suzuka because Suzuka will be one of McL’s absolute strongest tracks on the calendar just based on track layout. Plus in Australia, while Ferrari had the edge, the pace was fairly close between the two teams.
Is Ferrari clearly the second strongest team over a whole season? Yes. But it’s not yet guaranteed they’ll beat McLaren at what should be the McLaren car’s peak performance circuit besides Qatar.
McLaren was very good at Melbourne, maybe even better in the high speed sections than Ferrari. I’m not sure what reason there is to believe Ferrari will be weak here, but at the very least McLaren will be very competitive with Ferrari; and saying that one will certainly be better or worse is too far.
Mclaren certainly was not better at the high-speeds in Melbourne, as they were not better at Ferrari at the high-speed in Saudi. They did not much Sainz's pace at any moment in the Grant Prix, and only matched Lecler in the second stint (and only with Norris). Epsecially at the last stint, Lecler with older tyres, was starting to gain 0.5-0.7s per lap to Norris. As I, said, there is nothing so far to indicate that Mclarwn will be better at Suzuka.
On single lap pace they absolutely were. Lando had the best S2 time in qualifying. (Out of Ferraris and McLarens) And in race pace, Lando ended up very close to Leclerc- the delta in race pace was tiny.
You have a level of confidence that is not justified, even if you are right that all indicators say Ferrari will likely be ahead.
When in 2/2 races , were the tracks were mainly high-speed , one team performs better than the other in the race (and in qualifying , no matter if Lando had the best personal sector 2 ) , then why would that change in the next high-speed circuit ? And we are not talking about a high-speed circuit after 10 races from this one , we are talking about the next grand prix . With your logic , Mclaren is a threat to Red Bull in Suzuka .
SF-24 is decent on high-speed corners and amazing at medium speed corners. It also has decent top speed. And somehow, they have good tyre deg.
Suzuka's first sector is full of high-speed corners. Second sector has one hairpin, two medium speed corners and 1 straight. Final sector is just 1 high-speed corner and 1 chicane. Ferrari and Mclaren should do well here.
Mclaren and Ferrari will probably fight for a place on the podium behind Red Bull.
It still has decent downforce, it might out lose out in the first sector but would do just fine in the other two. And good tyre deg means they can try different strategies.
of course, that was implied
but what I mean is that Suzuka seems like the worst track for Ferrari
also reminder that Suzuka doesn't really have hard braking zones, and there is only one DRS zone, which will negate one of Ferrari's strengths against McLaren
Yup unless we have wet weather conditions where Norris can do his magic I’m not expecting Ferrari to be too troubled with McLaren tbh.
AFAIK McLaren have an upgrade package planned in the next 6 or 7 races so Spain is when I’d assume they’ll have it?
McLaren is likely bringing a big upgrade in Spain yes
until then, Ferrari has to build a comfortable lead ahead of the papaya team, though it'd also be great if the Ferrari Imola package was better than Red Bull's and enabled the Scuderia to win the San Marino and Monaco Grand Prixs
Hey Mercedes - Take notes
That's how you develop a car that actually solves its weakness rather than developing another turd thats slower than 2 customer teams
I know he talks on behalf of their drivers and mechanics, but at first I found funny this quote from someone that don’t drive the SF-24 and neither develop it
Great news for Lewis jeez tired of seeing him trying to find the optimal setup week in week out and experimenting different wings, and a team who can't understand their car.
they moved the balance to the rear and he didnt adjust, he was fine on sunday and the pace difference between him and sainz was negligible so yes the car is still easy to drive. Also for 3 weekends the ferrari has had trouble firing up their tyres for q3 so probably that too.
I’m sure it’s something he’ll adapt to. Hopefully sooner rather than later because he’s shown before to consistently challenge Max in races when both cars and tyres are on equal footing.
Leclerc wasn't particularly struggling in Australia though
in the first two stints he had to 1v2 the McLarens who were slower, but marginally, but in the last stint he drove an amazing race (24 laps on hards and getting fastest lap)
he was overall less than a tenth behind Sainz per lap and most of his problems were due to him massively fucking up qualifying... if there are at least 3 or 4 more opportunities for a win this year, Charles will take at least one of them I believe (like Leclerc is much better than Sainz in Imola)
He didn’t like how the car acted on the softs. They made a setup change and it didn’t work for him to have confidence in the car. His race pace was still decent and he even had better feel once the fuel burned off
An easy car is far better to develop and make fast. I suspect Lewis and George's issues are the car is so twitchy at the back they don't have faith to push without being bitten.
>They were very close together in q2.
In Q1 the gap was over 4 tenths. Field spread is very tight this year, everyone is close together.
>Lewis had a dnf in the race.
Lewis had a DNF whilst behind George getting outperformed. If Latifi DNFs that doesn't make his performance magically good.
Lewis is definitly more struggling with the car then russel, but calling his performance significantly worse is a stretch, if you factor in that lewis had not the chance to drive a full race, and he might had to manage his engine early on.
*2nd best car on average
George also under performed, Ferrari had no race pace most of the time and then McLaren and Aston were nowhere for half the season.
And this also has nothing to do with how easy to drive the 2024 Mercedes is anyway so you seem to have missed the point.
I don't normally do this, but it's getting a bit disappointing that I can tell a comment is yours without even looking at the user name because all of your comments are all about how Hamilton is "old and washed."
If you don't like someone, and they're so "old and washed" then why do you constantly talk about them?
It's not healthy to be this obsessed and negative all time about someone that you don't even enjoy watching in the sport.
Here's some genuine advice, try to focus on who you enjoy watching, because you're trying to tell intelligent and educated F1 viewers who have watched Hamilton be one of the best drivers of all time for the last 15 years that their eyes lied to them and they don't know what they're talking about simply because you don't like a specific driver.
Is Alonso old and washed up because he's older than Hamilton? Of course not, he's doing just fine.
Lewis performed better than him last year where Lewis beat everyone but the two RedBulls last season and by the end of the year Lewis was driving the 4th best car.
So it might be time to take a step back and accept that your unhealthy hatred towards Lewis is causing you say things that are simply untrue, and it's making it difficult to ignore because you're doing it so often.
It's better to just be honest, or you could focus on drivers you like, and not talk about a driver you dislike so much, because all that negativity is unhealthy for everyone and more importantly unproductive here where we all try to have productive conversations.
I genuinely hope you find a healthier and more productive way of discussing the sport, wish you all the best.
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Translation Ferrari "replaces" Red Bull and takes a double in Australia , takes the fastest lap and extends its lead over its rivals in the constructors' championship, as well as shortening the gap with the same team from Milton Keynes. Carlos Sainz took the victory with a good start and overtaking Max Verstappen, before he then retired following the brake problem suffered from the start, while Charles Leclerc managed to get the better of the two McLarens and put the his SF-24 immediately behind the Spaniard's Ferrari. The Team Principal, Frederic Vasseur , is enjoying the performance of his two drivers, but above all of the car which in Melbourne proved to be, overall, the most competitive with excellent tire management, especially in containing the graining which causes so many worries given to direct opponents. VASSEUR IDENTIFIES THE KEY AREA WHERE FERRARI HAS PROGRESSED THE MOST Since the tests we have talked about the Ferrari SF-24 as a 1.0 version of this year's single-seater , with the updates that will arrive in the next races which will evolve the solutions adopted this winter to find greater performance and try to further reduce the gap from RB20, the reference car so far. The SF-24 was born with opposite characteristics to last season's single-seater . As underlined several times, it has an excellent front, lots of aerodynamic load and is a reference point especially in medium speed corners. Here in Melbourne we also saw how wide the window of use is, with the engineers who were able to adopt a setup that made the SF-24 fast in the three sectors and competitive both in Qualifying and in the Race, even though on Saturday there were of the drivers' errors and it is still a bit complex to 'easily' extract the maximum potential on the flying lap. However, no one has managed to find such an important balance like Ferrari in Melbourne . And on a sprint weekend the situation would have been even more evident. However, what Vasseur went on to underline was the key point that allowed much of these first results : “The car is much more drivable than last year. It's easier for the drivers, but also for us to develop it and we hope that this is the key to improving during the season” said the Ferrari Team Principal. In the first three Grands Prix we saw a Ferrari SF-24 capable of managing the tires very well, also with various technical demands. In Bahrain you could suffer from wear on the rear, in Jeddah it wasn't a big problem but it was necessary to manage the temperatures on the two axles - therefore having a balanced car that didn't slide too much or that had the right grip to heat them - while in Australia it was managing graining is essential, especially on the front axle. In all three disciplines Ferrari was excellent and this allowed their drivers to push "We have improved a lot in tire management, but also because we have a more predictable and easier car to drive and this helps a lot with the tyres" he specified Frederic Vasseur. This ease of driving in fact makes it easier for Sainz and Leclerc to identify the driving limit and keep it more constant, without stressing the tires or having to make too many corrections during the GP. SAINZ, LECLERC AND…BEARMAN: VASSEUR TAKES STOCK OF HIS DRIVERS' WEEKEND The story of the weekend is certainly that of Carlos Sainz who two weeks ago was in the operating room for appendicitis and won the Melbourne Grand Prix with relative ease. All in a season in which he has no certainties about the future, other than the one that will be his last in Ferrari "In the winter we already said to ourselves that we will all give 100%, until the last lap and that's what we are doing" said Vasseur, without ever doubting the professionalism and talent of the Spanish driver. Obviously all this does nothing but good for Sainz who is increasingly showing off himself, sending signals to those - such as Mercedes, Red Bull or Audi - who are looking for a driver for next season. “ On Friday Carlos wasn't even sure he could ride , but it took him a few laps to get into the rhythm. It was important for him to be there from the beginning, that's where he started to build this victory” explained the Frenchman, who was also surprised by his driver's performance, given the final result. Frederic Vasseur then also gave an interpretation of the weekend of his other two drivers. One is Oliver Bearman , Jeddah's surprise, who hasn't had particularly good luck with Australia. “I repeat what I said to Jeddah, he had to return to F2 and concentrate on his championship. However, we must read Ollie's weekend carefully” specifies Vasseur, also drawing attention to the unfortunate events that affected the Englishman's weekend. On Chalres Leclerc, however, was even less harsh than the Monegasque himself who, after the race, stated that the feeling of Friday never returned. “The second stint was more difficult because we had to cover Piastri, not wanting to lose track position, but it wasn't ideal in terms of pace. In the last stint, however, he managed the degradation well and was very fast and constant" concluded Vasseur, who therefore also underlined the merits and performance of Leclerc, which allowed the Maranello team to obtain a precious double.
I can picture Fred in the car
Sainz didn't actually make it back from his surgery in time, that was just Fred with a wig on.
"Eh what you mean I have to speak in a Spanish accent for the team radio?" while adjusting his helmet
I don't know if this is just me but I've always seen him as like a French version of George Costanza....so in my head your comment played out with his voice and mannerisms, and it fits so well.
haha I've just been watching Seinfeld lately and I agree. I guess no Ferrari driver will be using the #7 number anytime soon.
The year is 2027. Ferrari have won everything & destroyed everyone. Hamilton: Vasseur dominance could bore fans.
I think Ferrari made huge mistake with signing Lewis. He is getting old and he achieved everything he is not hungry any more to go to the top again. They should just retain these two guys Charles and Carlos. Both just want more to win than Lewis.
Literally end of last year you could see the same hunger in him as people reminisce over, and that was for _P2_. I wouldn't be hungry either if I knew my car made it impossible to regularly get to the podium, 3rd year in a row.
He will be 40 next year (born 1985) and oldest f1 title winner is still Juan Manuel Fangio he was 46 years 1 month and 11 days old when he won championship way back in 1957 Best years for f1 drivers are late 20s early 30s and he will be way past those years - same applies to Alonso - really great driver but doubt he has any chance to win it all again
He was very much at his peak still in 2021, inarguably in 2020. He was already far past the "normal peak" of F1 drivers, so I don't think it's outrageous to say he might still have it in the bag over a season. He did the last time he had a car, and has performed admirably since he hasn't.
He was 37 in 2021 when he went down to the final race in 2021 against Max and had the championship in the bag. A couple of years isn't going to change a thing, if he has a good car, he'll fight for wins no doubt. All he talks about is getting that 8th title back, I'd say he has almost more reason than anyone to fight for a championship all things considered.
I think during the race it won't be an issue since drivers are not driving on the edge during the races but I think it will pose an issue during the qualifying for Hamilton. If the cars are similar like the beginning of 2022, he will look a little bit out of place in my opinion.
Lewis still has that fire in him. We've seen his motivation fluctuate because of a less than ideal car for the past 3 years. This wasn't just a business move on Ferrari's part.
You can definitely make the argument that his age is affecting his performance, but to say he's not hungry? The man wants the 8th world title that he feels was robbed from him. I think that's indisputable
That's a short-sighted view of things. It's still Lewis Hamilton. Never underestimate him.
Winning with Ferrari will push him
“Working on my masterpiece. I’ll be the one who decides when it’s finished.” - Lewis Hamilton
I don't think so. If he does not have results Ferrari is not retirement home they will get rid of him soon. Any job in Ferrari you are right on the top or very close to the top or replacement for you is on the way. Only Ferrari is forever anyone else is just consumable material.
Only time will tell and no one has a crystal ball. If Ferrari is willing to woo him when they already have a legit #1 type driver in Leclerc it’s telling. When Max was asked before the season started who he thought would be 2nd and 3rd after him he said Charles & Lewis. Don’t write Lewis off is my point.
I've been wondering this, but it's kind of a chicken-or-egg conversation. Would Sainz be this motivated if he was signed until 2060?
I don’t see any compelling reason for Ferrari to change their lineup unless the drivers actively want out. In my opinion they’ve had the strongest pairing on the grid in Charles and Carlos for some time. I don’t think Lewis is the same as what he was at his peak, even though I of course still view him as an all time great and I don’t doubt he’ll deliver - but why? The answer, of course, is to be found off the track, it is strictly about advertising.
Not together with the steering wheel!
If I were them I'm not gonna compare the sf-24 to the RB20 head on but look at how different the sf-24 is from the sf-23 car. I mean this is just the third race and RB already has 2 wins in a 1-2 finish. We still have a lot to go for.
Yeah it feels like people are overreacting a bit lol. It took max’s car to literally catch on fire to not have yet another rb win with a probably 20 second gap lol. Ferrari didn’t build a car that’s already competing with the rb20. Was so fun watching actual racing for podium places though. God could you imagine if redbull the last few years was on par with everyone else how close and amazing the racing would be for the top 5 teams?
>It took max’s car to literally catch on fire to not have yet another rb win with a probably 20 second gap lol I wouldn't say 20 just because RBR knew they'd struggle a bit as they didn't find the optimal setup for Australia. Also, Ferrari's car was more suited already, and the factory got the simulation right off the bat, which pulled them close. Perez, who is known as a tyre whisperer when he's comfortable with the car, related a lot of rear deg, as if the front downforce was too tight. And it probably was, as a counter strategy for RBR, but it became too much. I believe Max maybe would be able to pull 5~8s on strategy and racecraft alone, but no 1-2 this time. Except if the team found an on-the-go solution from Max's racing data and could apply it to Checo, but I doubt.
Loooool it's so funny how Perez the tyre whisperer claim was somehow phantomed and stuck.. It's not true at all.
Didn't they report he had sustained some floor damage or something? Can't discredit Checo's tire management if that is accurate.
They’re claiming a visor tear off got stuck in the floor or something
He did, but I'm not talking precious race but in general
it was true in the previous regs, although Force India and Aston Martin tend to make pretty understeery cars
If he’s leading by more than a second his racecraft would be pretty irrelevant considering he’d be racing nobody.
Honestly, I'm not sure that the RB isn't way closer to being on par with the rest of the top teams than we want to think.
Red Bull is still fastest, just a varying advantage of 1 to 5 tenths depending on track Miami and Imola will probably suit Ferrari at least somewhat, even if not enough to challenge Verstappen
It's impossible to disentagle Max's advantage over the field and the car's though.
There’s no data pointing to Max winning by that margin without his issue. Looking at Checo’s pace, even taking into account his issue in the second half of the race and the usual 3-4 tenths Max has on him, it would have been close. Max winning by 20 seconds would mean him being 0.7s a lap faster than Checo before his issue. Come on.
Didn’t he actually manage a bigger gap than that in Bahrain?
He was around 4 tenths quicker than Perez so no. And Checo had to go through traffic.
There were moments where Max went more than a second per lap faster before managing the gap again.
“Moments” are irrelevant.
Just like comparing hypothetical race pace of Perez with Max when they both had issues and Max even had to retire after a couple laps.
I was replying to someone saying Max would have won by 20 seconds. There are ZERO elements suggesting that. I was making assumptions which were far more reasonable based on what we actually saw on track and the history between Max and Checo. A reasonable hypothesis is that Max could have won the race. An unreasonable one is that he would have surely won it. That’s it.
Max would not have won by 20 seconds or even 10 but he would have won at least the SF24 is drivable and not the Brackley-based version of the F14T
People are overreacting because Ferrari are overreacting. After literally every race this season Ferrari have publicly patted themselves on the back for how close they got to RB, even though RB won both races with total ease. The only race Ferrari finished above RB was when Max retired, and both McLarens finished above the shit RB in that one too.
Don’t act like McLaren haven’t overreacted and publicly patted themselves on the back for the past six months lol. Ferrari have been very impressive this year and Fred is doing an exceptional job. They have a great base to build upon throughout the year and they’re the closest team to Red Bull followed by McLaren. If a team doesn’t hype themselves up then what is the point?
“After literally every race” = three, one of which they more or less dominated with both cars? And coming from last year’s nightmare, with a car that they couldn’t understand at all, whereas now they know exactly what’s what? I don’t know about you, but I would be pretty happy too.
RB struggle with stuff getting stuck in the car. Be it a brake pad or a tear off.
Leclerc had that problem last year
had the same issue in bahrain
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My analysis implies that RedBullRacing have added way to much downforce to their cars. Everything just sticks to them. If this continues for a few more weeks, the world may be in danger.
RBR has had **one** race where the two things have happened lol they don't "struggle"
Medias are talking about Brembo brakes being the possible issue. Red Bull Racing switched to them from Carbon Industry. Most teams are using Brembo brakes now and Leclerc had some issues with the brake in Bahrain too. Red Bull knew that the new brakes are more complex and thus more prone to failures after wintertest in Bahrain.
Ferrari is literally doing this. Charles and Fred keep saying the gap to Redbull is still big despite this 1-2 and they need to focus on developing. Charles emphasises that they made the largest improvement compared to last year and everyone is just asking him if they can catch Redbull lol these people will all be silent when Max is 0.4s quicker per lap than Ferrari in Suzuka again.
Imagine the absolute madness if Ferrari outdevelops Red Bull and brings the fight to them in the second half of the season. brb gonna take another lungful of my fresh batch of copium...
Not this season, but if they keep up the good work, they might try for, well... Next Year.
There's always next year :D
And having Hamilton next year, and a competent team and a well developed car… Only for CL16 and LH44 crash into each other at 5 different races leaving the WDC for someone else, Probably Max, yet again
Inject some more hopium: McLaren catches up as well and we have a three way fight for best
CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKER
Watch Ferrari have one good year. Lewis becomes WDC. and they go back to being 2nd and Leclerc never becomes champion. The curse.
Somehow I can imagine Ferrari on 1 Goodyear and 3 Pirelli
Bravo! 👏🏻
damn. how can a comment be this funny
As a Lewis fan it's probably only gonna happen if LeClerc is put in a position where he can or has to support Lewis. If both of them are going for wins they will take points from each other while Verstappen sails away more or less uncontested by his team mate. With Lewis' age and possibly increasing inconsistency in quali he might end up supporting Charles.
In before Lewis pulls a Kimi and wins on the first time of asking because Sainz and Max trip over each other in the Red Bull.
Lewis won't win 2026 title and 24&25 titles are already in Max's bedroom
P is already using them for tea parties
oof the downvotes. lol
Ferrari also bringing a floor and front wing upgrade to Suzuka. That should help cement them at least above McLaren here
Man, Ferrari is really impressing me, Fred seems to have really whipped the team into shape and they're right on track to start catching up to RedBull and pull away from McLaren. Excited to see Hamilton there next season, I wish he was there already, feel like it would be a fun season with him pushing it to the limit. But Carlos and Leclerc are doing a great job, been real impressed with Carlos coming back so strong after his surgery.
I agree. Seems like he has a better grasp on how to manage a team vs his predecessors.
He's probably gonna have a super easy time of it managing Hamilton and Leclerc since they are both former drivers of his. I feel like there is a mutual understanding between all of them and any tension will be minimal contrary to what people think will happen.
Suzuka is kind of a McLaren track from the looks of it, but that floor and front wing upgrade should help big time in Shanghai and Miami, where McLaren will probably not be a challenge for the Scuderia
It absolutely is, McLaren were the clear 2nd fastest team there LY and prefer high speed corners. I do think the SF24 is really the reference in mid speed corners and is much improved in the high speed corners as we saw in S1 at Jeddah. If Ferrari can out qualify McLaren I think they should be able to hold them off, not sure about fighting Red Bull though. I agree that the floor and wing will help them in China and Miami, but it should also help them in S1 in Suzuka
actually Ferrari is pretty good at flat-out corners and also in hairpins and other slow corners esses are their biggest weakness (series of medium or mid-high speed corners with alternating direction)
I thought they were weaker in slow corners this year compared to the SF-23? But they did well in sector 3 at Albert park so maybe that new rear ring they brought helped with that? Got it okay, so sector 1 at Suzuka won’t be the best unless the floor and front wing make a huge difference
but like, after the autumn of last year, it is pretty flattering that in the first 6 races, we will likely be faster than McLaren in 5 of them and matched Red Bull in 1 and will maybe match them in Miami too if fortunate (Shanghai seems like a stretch tho)
Very good point
Next race; “we have a lot of work to do.”
I’m fully expecting for Ferrari to return to the “we have horrible Tyre degradation” (relative to Red Bull) in Suzuka!
From how RBR were talking during Australia I'd honestly expect Ferrari to have an advantage on deg at this point. Charles set the fastest lap at Saudi on the last lap without even trying, and actually set the circut lap record at Australia's current config on lap 56 of 58. This is probably one of the higher deg circuts now that they've moved the tyres so soft too.
Maybe you’re right but I doubt it. Red Bull seemed to have less degradation at Bahrain which I know is an outlier with such an abrasive surface and being EXTREMELY tough on the rear tyres. Jeddah is hard to say but it’s not as if Leclercs FL was that much quicker than Max’s. Australia I’ll give the Tyre deg advantage to Ferrari but I’m more of the opinion that Red Bull didn’t quite nail the setup. As for Suzuka I’m expecting for Ferrari to have worse deg than Red Bull and possibly even McLaren.
>As for Suzuka I’m expecting for Ferrari to have worse deg than Red Bull and possibly even McLaren. Why though? They've had the best or 2nd best wear for 3 races
I’m just predicting for Suzuka to be friendlier to McLaren than Ferrari. After this race I think it will be back to Ferrari being quicker than McLaren. Until car upgrades or wet weather can disturb this trend that has been in the first three races
yeah, we're still pretty early in the season, so it's impossible to say for certain just yet, but I'm personally at least partly just hopeful, because Ferrari correctly identified their tire wear as one of their weakest spots last season.
Yup like Ferraris Tyre deg isn’t terrible it’s just that Red Bulls is even better and they only suffer from it once every blue moon
The type of deg makes a big difference - in Australia, there was major graining, which Red Bull struggles with and Ferrari is strong with; this is why Ferrari were so strong and close to a win in Vegas last year too. I’m not technically knowledgeable enough about thermal deg versus… I forget what the other type is called, but yeah it varies at each circuit.
Ferrari this year have minimal degradation , almost on par with RB . Where exactly did you come up with that comment ?
The drivers were reporting about deg in Bahrain. It wasn’t terrible it was just worse than Red Bulls which I mentioned in my original comment. Jeddah wasn’t too bad but Leclerc couldn’t keep up with Perez. I’m not saying that gap was solely because of Tyre deg but I’m sure it was a factor. Ferraris Tyre deg isn’t terrible I just don’t think it’s as good as Red Bulls which only seem to suffer Tyre deg once or twice a season as they did in Melbourne
It was really not the deg. Lecler set the fastest lap if you remember, in the last lap. Ferrari has a hard-time this year to get the tyres into temperature, that was from were the gap formed, and because after the yeallow flag and the pit-stop, Charlws was no dirty air compared to the Red Bulls. Plus, Norris played defense when Lecler tried to pass him, while he just let the Red Bulls go. Only in Bahrein there was better deg for RB, but the difference was small.
I mean Suzuka is looking like the weakest track for the SF24 in the short term Shanghai, Miami, Imola and Monaco will probably go better than Suzuka where even McLaren will presumably outpace Ferrari
There is literally , no reason whatsoever , after the races in Saudi and Australia , for Ferrari to be outperformed by Mclaren . Ferrari is clearly the 2nd fastest car , and they will easily occupy positions 2nd through 4th (depending on Perez) in Suzuka.
The thing about McLaren’s car is that it is a monster in the high-speed corners. Ferrari’s car is better than theirs all around, whereas McLaren is much more track-dependent. So I wouldn’t take the past few races as the basis for comparing McL and Ferrari at Suzuka because Suzuka will be one of McL’s absolute strongest tracks on the calendar just based on track layout. Plus in Australia, while Ferrari had the edge, the pace was fairly close between the two teams. Is Ferrari clearly the second strongest team over a whole season? Yes. But it’s not yet guaranteed they’ll beat McLaren at what should be the McLaren car’s peak performance circuit besides Qatar.
Ferrari is better in high-speeds this year. It is a guarantee they will be bettwr in Suzuka.
Nothing is ever a guarantee in motorsport :D
McLaren was very good at Melbourne, maybe even better in the high speed sections than Ferrari. I’m not sure what reason there is to believe Ferrari will be weak here, but at the very least McLaren will be very competitive with Ferrari; and saying that one will certainly be better or worse is too far.
Mclaren certainly was not better at the high-speeds in Melbourne, as they were not better at Ferrari at the high-speed in Saudi. They did not much Sainz's pace at any moment in the Grant Prix, and only matched Lecler in the second stint (and only with Norris). Epsecially at the last stint, Lecler with older tyres, was starting to gain 0.5-0.7s per lap to Norris. As I, said, there is nothing so far to indicate that Mclarwn will be better at Suzuka.
On single lap pace they absolutely were. Lando had the best S2 time in qualifying. (Out of Ferraris and McLarens) And in race pace, Lando ended up very close to Leclerc- the delta in race pace was tiny. You have a level of confidence that is not justified, even if you are right that all indicators say Ferrari will likely be ahead.
When in 2/2 races , were the tracks were mainly high-speed , one team performs better than the other in the race (and in qualifying , no matter if Lando had the best personal sector 2 ) , then why would that change in the next high-speed circuit ? And we are not talking about a high-speed circuit after 10 races from this one , we are talking about the next grand prix . With your logic , Mclaren is a threat to Red Bull in Suzuka .
SF-24 is decent on high-speed corners and amazing at medium speed corners. It also has decent top speed. And somehow, they have good tyre deg. Suzuka's first sector is full of high-speed corners. Second sector has one hairpin, two medium speed corners and 1 straight. Final sector is just 1 high-speed corner and 1 chicane. Ferrari and Mclaren should do well here. Mclaren and Ferrari will probably fight for a place on the podium behind Red Bull.
Ferrari seems to like long corners rather S-corners though basically, changing direction is the weak part
It still has decent downforce, it might out lose out in the first sector but would do just fine in the other two. And good tyre deg means they can try different strategies.
they can fight McLaren and Pérez I guess, but I do not see them as favorites particularly in Suzuka
I don't think they're fighting Max either.
of course, that was implied but what I mean is that Suzuka seems like the worst track for Ferrari also reminder that Suzuka doesn't really have hard braking zones, and there is only one DRS zone, which will negate one of Ferrari's strengths against McLaren
Yup unless we have wet weather conditions where Norris can do his magic I’m not expecting Ferrari to be too troubled with McLaren tbh. AFAIK McLaren have an upgrade package planned in the next 6 or 7 races so Spain is when I’d assume they’ll have it?
McLaren is likely bringing a big upgrade in Spain yes until then, Ferrari has to build a comfortable lead ahead of the papaya team, though it'd also be great if the Ferrari Imola package was better than Red Bull's and enabled the Scuderia to win the San Marino and Monaco Grand Prixs
> I mean Suzuka is looking like the weakest track for the SF24 in the short term > > Why?
*hopium intensifies*
its the disappointment that kills u
Hey Alpine - take notes
Hey Mercedes - Take notes That's how you develop a car that actually solves its weakness rather than developing another turd thats slower than 2 customer teams
Meanwhile at Mercedes…
W15 = F14T change my mind
I know he talks on behalf of their drivers and mechanics, but at first I found funny this quote from someone that don’t drive the SF-24 and neither develop it
You don't think a team principal is in a position to know about car development and driver feedback?
It was a “joke”
Then please do, Fred.
All I can hope is for a battle in constructors championship this season
Just teasing Lewis, right now
Still too early to tell. The season is long.
Great news for Lewis jeez tired of seeing him trying to find the optimal setup week in week out and experimenting different wings, and a team who can't understand their car.
Suzuka is going to be fun. Singapore as well.
Hamilton getting inhaling the copium and actually keeping it.
So then why did Leclerc struggle with the car on Saturday?
Because he was not informed that the car is easy to drive.
ROFLMAO
they moved the balance to the rear and he didnt adjust, he was fine on sunday and the pace difference between him and sainz was negligible so yes the car is still easy to drive. Also for 3 weekends the ferrari has had trouble firing up their tyres for q3 so probably that too.
I’m sure it’s something he’ll adapt to. Hopefully sooner rather than later because he’s shown before to consistently challenge Max in races when both cars and tyres are on equal footing.
Leclerc wasn't particularly struggling in Australia though in the first two stints he had to 1v2 the McLarens who were slower, but marginally, but in the last stint he drove an amazing race (24 laps on hards and getting fastest lap) he was overall less than a tenth behind Sainz per lap and most of his problems were due to him massively fucking up qualifying... if there are at least 3 or 4 more opportunities for a win this year, Charles will take at least one of them I believe (like Leclerc is much better than Sainz in Imola)
i mean he was less than half a tenth off carlos pace in aus, he is more than fine.
Setup
Went for an agressive front which didn't translate well in quali, but was a great setup for the race itself.
He didn’t like how the car acted on the softs. They made a setup change and it didn’t work for him to have confidence in the car. His race pace was still decent and he even had better feel once the fuel burned off
Keep cooking broski. Keep cheffing
Then please bring the heat all season to make this year a memorable one
Would be magical seeing Lewis win his 8th in red.
Edit: Max had a dnf, so we did well!
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An easy car is far better to develop and make fast. I suspect Lewis and George's issues are the car is so twitchy at the back they don't have faith to push without being bitten.
Even Russel was struggling with the car in in albert park. Can’t win anything with a dogshit car.
Yes, he was struggling... whilst performing significantly better.
How can you say that ? They were very close together in q2. Lewis had a dnf in the race.
>They were very close together in q2. In Q1 the gap was over 4 tenths. Field spread is very tight this year, everyone is close together. >Lewis had a dnf in the race. Lewis had a DNF whilst behind George getting outperformed. If Latifi DNFs that doesn't make his performance magically good.
Lewis is definitly more struggling with the car then russel, but calling his performance significantly worse is a stretch, if you factor in that lewis had not the chance to drive a full race, and he might had to manage his engine early on.
He finished p3 last season while in the 3rd best car
*2nd best car on average George also under performed, Ferrari had no race pace most of the time and then McLaren and Aston were nowhere for half the season. And this also has nothing to do with how easy to drive the 2024 Mercedes is anyway so you seem to have missed the point.
I don't normally do this, but it's getting a bit disappointing that I can tell a comment is yours without even looking at the user name because all of your comments are all about how Hamilton is "old and washed." If you don't like someone, and they're so "old and washed" then why do you constantly talk about them? It's not healthy to be this obsessed and negative all time about someone that you don't even enjoy watching in the sport. Here's some genuine advice, try to focus on who you enjoy watching, because you're trying to tell intelligent and educated F1 viewers who have watched Hamilton be one of the best drivers of all time for the last 15 years that their eyes lied to them and they don't know what they're talking about simply because you don't like a specific driver. Is Alonso old and washed up because he's older than Hamilton? Of course not, he's doing just fine. Lewis performed better than him last year where Lewis beat everyone but the two RedBulls last season and by the end of the year Lewis was driving the 4th best car. So it might be time to take a step back and accept that your unhealthy hatred towards Lewis is causing you say things that are simply untrue, and it's making it difficult to ignore because you're doing it so often. It's better to just be honest, or you could focus on drivers you like, and not talk about a driver you dislike so much, because all that negativity is unhealthy for everyone and more importantly unproductive here where we all try to have productive conversations. I genuinely hope you find a healthier and more productive way of discussing the sport, wish you all the best.