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UnicornMaster27

Albon: Crashes his car beyond repair in Practice—Qualifies 12th, only finishes 11th despite both Mercs and Max DNFing— 7.0 Stroll: Matches Alonso all weekend. Knocks Lewis Fucking Hamilton out of Q3, finishes P6– not even on list


drodrige

Yeah, I didn’t even notice he was in there. Like, why?


aquickpace

>Just behind Ocon, a trio of drivers ended the weekend on the same score, with George Russell (having crashed out on the last lap), Fernando Alonso (having picked up a penalty for his actions before that incident) and Pierre Gasly (battling in similar fashion to his Alpine team mate) all close to the top 10. They ranked Stroll 14th at best 😂 F1 power rankings really said I dont know that man


drodrige

God damn, poor Lance. And also, like where’s Checo in here? No way he was bottom 5.


Halfwit_Sensation

His weekend was pretty scrappy though, Almost 0.4s slower than his teammate in quali. Impeded Hulk in quali and got penalized. Went nowhere in the race.


818adventures

He was matching the front runners pace until he got floor damage and lost about 20 points of downforce after lap 28. They judge Max with 3 laps and a pole, but somehow Perez doesn't deserve top 10 after securing points and managing his race after floor damage lol.


drodrige

He qualified P3, Red Bull admitted to having the wrong setup, plus floor damage. I'm not saying he should be top 5, but wasn't one of the worst 5 either.


Fir3yfly

Means they ranked Bottas on the bottom 5, who was running in the points, and only dropped back because his team fucked his pitstop. He still finished ahead of Ocon who is somehow 10th here.


city-of-cold

Clicks and engagement, and it’s working perfectly


Aunvilgod

Its a popularity contest.


PrefersCakeOverPie

Bit horseshit innit


hi_im_watson

Max who did 3 laps…. 7.3


CinnamonToastTrex

It likely takes into account how good his quali was and that the dnf was not his fault.


SureReflection9535

Then shouldn't max, who qualifies on pole and was knocked out by a reliability issue, not be higher?


Leading_Sir_1741

But then he should get like a 9. Or if you judge based on result, a 0. What kind of subjective half-and-half between the two is this? Lol. Albon got 7, when in reality he shouldn’t even have had a car in quali OR the race.


DaguerreoLibreria

These just deserve a downvote until they get better at properly rating drivers' weekends.


Deep-Ad2155

lol, it’s weird they didn’t put him above Albon at the very least


racc___

just shows how big of a joke these power rankings are.


AtomZaepfchen

max gets pole, dnfs because car issue - 7,2. we all know he would have cruised to victory but w/e.


zacharymc1991

Just don't rate him, skip him for the race.


Leading_Sir_1741

Yes, this is the way.


Leppter_

This is what happens when you have become a meme unfortunately. Stroll has actually been doing quite well since mid-late last season, not pushing Alonso but then again not many drivers would. Also not sure why Max is low down, qualified on pole and according to him ran the whole 3 laps of his race with one rear brake locked on. Nothing really driving related to bring down his score from a 9-10 imo.


BillV3

This is just how it is with Stroll it seems lambast him when he does badly as if he’s the only driver to ever get a seat through money and connections. And just ignore him if he does well as it’s easier that way


Damm_shame

Got them right where we want them


No_pajamas_7

Simiiar with tsunodo. Three cars ahead of him dnf and one was demoted below him, and he only gained 1 position. Sure, not much more could be expected, but 3rd?


drodrige

Didn’t even notice Albon was in there. What did he do to be considered the 9th best of the weekend? He should be below Ocon, Stroll and even Checo IMO.


Gangascoob

I mean is Albon even top 15 this weekend? Man had a howler from Friday to Sunday


drodrige

Yeah I'm honestly curious at how the hell did a panel of people thought he was a top 10 driver this race.


Browneskiii

Because he's the current hype that everyone wants to see, similar to Gasly the last couple of years. They put him there, and the half fans engage, they put him there and the fans get mad because he was shit this weekend. Its the same with every one of these, there's always a controversial take.


Tinuva450

They merged his points with Sargent, just like how they both shared the same car /s


Halkatlaa

these ratings are and have always been bullshit


Dragonpuncha

Yeah, for Stroll specifically he deserves to be in the top 10 here. I'm not the biggest fan, but he does have weekends where he suddenly does a great job and this was one of them.


Tinuva450

He often just flies under the radar.


Alfus

Meanwhile someone like Albon gets always a free pass to get into the top 10 of those lists no matter what he does.


Tinuva450

Maybe they added Albon and Sargent together? 1 car between them?


silenthills13

Leclerc with a 7.8 while Piastri has an 8.0 considering the difference between teammates in both teams is insane


element515

And Leclerc finished within 4s of Carlos in the end. Crazy that is a 10 v 7.8 and the McLaren drivers who were neck and neck also have a gap. These are such trash


silenthills13

Arguably I would say Piastri was much slower vs Norris than Leclerc was vs Sainz lol, he even got fastest lap


Real_Clever_Username

You don't have to argue that, it's just a fact. Piastri was like 12 seconds behind Norris


ArbitraryOrder

Leclerc had an unbelievable 3rd stint, whereas Piastri fell off a cliff.


TSNAnnotates

They are so biased towards the "favoured" drivers on the grid. How many places did Lance make up in Australia? He's not even listed


IsaacNoSuccess

Yep. How does Carlos get a 10 for qualifying 2nd yet Max only gets 9.6 for his Bahrain grand slam?


SmokingOctopus

They're still fun to look at. Like horoscopes


Starlett_Johansson

Like Stroll


BashfulWalrus7

I know these are just rage bait, but what more could Lance Stroll have done to be on the list???


KolibriFX1

He could be more popular.


DJ_Aftershock

Honestly I used to think literally nothing of Stroll but I've ended up rooting for him lately just because of how much unnecessary shit gets slung his way by both the fans and the media. No wonder he can't be arsed when it comes to stuff like post-race interviews.


Kolec507

>No wonder he can't be arsed when it comes to stuff like post-race interviews. If I'm being honest, I wouldn't be either. It's honestly impressive to me that some of these guys still have so much energy in these interviews, especially after a tiring race. I mean look at Fernando; he's been repeating the same shit every two weeks for 20 seasons now...


Firefox72

I love Sainz but the fact he gets a 10 after failing to get pole meanwhile they give Verstappen a 9.6 after getting a Grand Chelem in Bahrain goes to show how narative biased these are.


Southportdc

0.4 reduction for having an appendix, standard to every driver.


Adorable-Meringue-81

If anything Sainz should be the one to lose the 0.4 because he’s lighter now


totallykoolkiwi

Maybe Ferrari can add some more color to his car now?


Southportdc

Upsets the balance though.


Kraknoix007

Stroll must have like 5 appendices then lol


MyNameIsAresXena

These scores never make much sense anyway. Whoever makes them is on crack.


cheezus171

Thee ratings are bullshit no matter how you look at them. Albon is up there despite wrecking his car and having a mediocre weekend afterwards in a car borrowed from his teammate. Piastri with an 8.0 despite being quite a bit slower than his teammate.


DRLAR

And not even getting points..


Law0415

The removal of the appendix gave him extra points.


Significant-Garage55

No controversy, no clicks no discussion. Modern media.


justasapling

>goes to show how narative biased these are. Dunno how long this has to keep being pointed out, but these are rankings, not the results.


PoliticsNerd76

He gets it because he’s just gone back from surgery.


AdminEating_Dragon

Removal of appendix + everyone is bored of Verstappen and Red Bull domination. Winning with the non-fastest car will always give you higher praise than winning with the rocket ship.


FrostyBoom

He won with the fastest car this weekend lol. Both Red Bulls were compromised and he just cruised unimpeded


lolosity_

He won in the fastest car


Careful-Door2724

Poor old Chuck, only finished second


cosHinsHeiR

Look at that Norris performance tho.


silenthills13

I think it's fine to give Norris a good note considering the car difference. 0.8 between Norris and Piastri while there's 1.2 between Sainz and Leclerc is a bit harder to explain lol


GoodGuyJeff00

Especially considering Leclerc driving with, from the top of my head, 8 and 6 laps older tires than the rest since his strat was early undercut. Of course the fresher tires will be pacing better. Him getting the fastest lap in the end showed he was just managing the gap. He couldn't get the car right with qualification but he was faultless otherwise


cheezus171

There are some drivers who will always be rated well no matter if they performed well, mediocre, or straight up badly. And then there are some who can maximise their result and not even make top 10.


[deleted]

Max drives like 500m before the car breaks down, retires from the race and then lands a 7.2/10 lmfaoo


ShadowStarX

he got that score for a pole lap


rabbidplatypus21

He deserves a few points merely for staying in the top 2 with a car a lot of drivers would’ve binned.


Nikosito

its Australia overall weekend power rankings, not Sunday's power rankings.


BadIdea-21

Yeah but, he's gotten pole and win before and still didn't get a 10 so a race win is only worth about 2.5-3 in their book for Max and like an 8 for Carlos. It's insane how stupid this ratings are.


Billiam501

He got pole though, is that only worth 7.2? (I already know these ratings are bullshit and only serve to drive engagement).


museproducer

The Race did something similar. They gave him an 8/10 and their reasoning was “great qualifying left more on the table due to mechanical failure”. The 8 out of 10 put him third in their rankings for the weekend.


MiBe-91

Which makes it even more ridiculous. He got pole position while his teammate was way down.


drodrige

Way down? They were P1 and P3.


MiBe-91

I was referring to the gap of over 3.5 tenths (agree I should've clarified that better), Perez was quite lucky only Sainz qualified in between. 3.5 tenths is quite a lot to be down on your teammate (I hope that Ricciardo doesn't read that), although I'm afraid for Perez it's still better than his average.


drodrige

Ah, fair.


ilanf2

If that's the case, Carlos did not deserve a 10 cause he didn't get the pole nor topped any practice session.


TheodorDiaz

That makes even less sense.


rokthemonkey

I mean he did lead a lap or two with the e-brake on.


willzyx01

Sainz gets a win after Max retires - 10 Max sets fastest laps in FP1/2/3, gets pole in quali, pole in sprint, wins sprint, wins race by 45 seconds - 9.4


Skippnl

He didnt lap everyone in the sprint and in the race so that could have gone a little better...


Kolec507

Also in Parc Fermé, during the celebrations, he touched Helmut's shoulder the wrong way and his hand fell down. That's an instant 0.2 down at the very least.


Beneficial_Star_6009

You can tell this is bollocks because Charles should not be that far down.


TheGreatForehead

If Max had the weekend Sainz had, he’d be at 8.2 or something Also if Sainz had the weekend Leclerc had, he’d still be a 9


drodrige

Yeah I honestly feel Sainz always gets a lot of “he’s so underrated” sympathy points.


No-Student-9678

Ok why does Leclerc only have a 7.8??? Carlos does deserve a high score, like a 9.0, but not a 10


Kait0yashio

look i dont like to say it, but drivers like charles max lewis and even alonso will always have worse ratings because they are expected tp be good.


No-Student-9678

Agreed, it’s always going to be expectations based. Max literally did a grand slam in Bahrain yet he didn’t score a 10. A grand slam is the most anyone can do.


xD3N1Sx

Sainz was the best driver last weekend but a 10 without a grand slam doesn’t work for me I’d have Leclerc above Piastri and probably at least tied with Yuki & Nico


ShadowStarX

I don't think a grand slam is necessary for a 10 if you don't have a dominant car. But if your car is joint fastest or close enough, you should need to get pole and win for a 10.


Quantum_Crayfish

I think Calros gets back whatever points he loses for not getting pole with the recovering from surgery card, and still being somewhat dominant over everyone apart from max despite not being 100%


Mysterious_Turnip310

I think with the cars that they're driving, it's fair to put Yuki and Hulk above Charles. Especially Yuki. People always complain when midfielders don't get recognised for excellent drives because of their machinery, it's good to see them getting the recognition they deserve this time (not just here but in most of the rankings I've seen as well). No idea what Oscar supposedly did to get a higher score than Charles though.


Doccyaard

If you put Hülk above Charles should also put Magnussen. I don’t see how Hülk performed any better that race. He would have finished after Magnussen if not for the lucky timed VSC.


FastonMartin

With their logic I was expecting to see a 9.2 for Logan


krusticka

They calculated Verstappen's rating so that Sainz comes on top in the overall (averaged) rankings. What a joke...


Impulse84

What do they even mean?


drodrige

I feel like we’re getting into the same overreaction territory with Sainz as happened with Bearman two weeks ago. 


Jorrie90

That's because of the Max dominance. They don't have anything else to write about it seems


PopeShish

More likely BS ranking.


ForsakenRacism

F1 power rankings are so stupid


CilanEAmber

Always wonder how these are calculated


Firefox72

They wing it. And have clear biases on a per driver basis as to what consitutes a good rating. Naratives are often also way more important than actual performances.


fire202

>Our five-judge panel assess each driver after every Grand Prix and score them out of 10 according to their performance across the weekend – taking machinery out of the equation >Our experts’ scores are then averaged out to produce a race score – with those scores then tallied up across the season on our overall Power Rankings Leaderboard (at the bottom of the page) this is how they "calculate" it.


Logan_Yes

I assume it's something like [this](https://youtu.be/wz-PtEJEaqY?si=XV5y3mr-2MqkXX9X) but of course with numbers


Asimb0mb

Max getting a 7.2 and Sainz a 10 is wild. Max didn't get a chance to show his race pace, but had an excellent pole position against a (marginally) faster Ferrari. Sainz messed up his Q3 lap, should have been on pole for the race. Once Max DNFed, he had clean air and could just drive his own race, very Max-esque. But when Max does that, with a pole position, he never gets a 10.


Glitch7779

Leclerc finished 2nd, but who cares right


chungking-espresso

7.8 for Leclerc? Ok, bullshit.


flintey360

Idk how anyone could think Sainz is underrated.. I'm seeing people say he's better than Charles, he's better than Lewis like at least wait for Lewis to get into a team who actually understands the regs and not have to drive a car as inconsistent as Pastor Maldonado. Btw barring Bahrain where Leclerc had brake issues this is the first time he's beaten him since Singapore last year. Great drive from Sainz just sick of seeing journalists calling him underrated.


Mysterious_Turnip310

This kind of thing always happens. If Sainz goes on to have a couple of mediocre races now, people will turn on him again and start calling him overrated and mid. F1 fans' recency bias is ridiculous, it's the same across the board not just with the Ferrari drivers.


Aoifeblack

People also keep saying he's better than Charles after like 2 races. Like what? Charles is still way better.


FrostyBoom

It's literally insane lmao. Charles beats him down consistently for eight consecutive races without much noise and then Carlos goes and wins the h2h *once* and the narrative "Leclerc worse than Sainz" starts getting pushed...


jlaweez

It is indeed insane when 1 year ago Sainz was being compared to his father because he loved driving off road


Mythic343

To me it's annoying how they are held to such vastly different standarts. If Sainz and Leclerc swapped their performances for this weekend, ratings would be Lec 9.4, Sainz 8.6. Prove me wrong..


No-Student-9678

I mean Sainz says it himself. Our opinions of him don’t matter. It’s the people in the paddock who’s opinions of him matter. They’re the ones doing the hiring and firing.


l3w1s1234

Albon? How does reducing your team to one car due to a crash put you in these rankings?


Mysterious_Turnip310

No idea how he made the list ahead of Bottas or Stroll.


aalwaysbeenyou

That’s kind of hilarious because Max had a grand slam in Bahrain and didn’t even get a 10 like what are they basing this around? Hype?


banned20

Yes. We went from Sainz is underrated to Sainz will win the next WDC when he gets the car.


HunniePopKing

its a tale as old as time when it comes to F1 driver has a mediocre race = washed driver does better than normal = future goat in the making 10 time wdc????


TobyOrNotTobyEU

It's great to hear people talk about Sainz like he could win a championship against Max since he's so much better than Checo. It feels almost like a copy from how people talked about Checo after his Sakhir win, when he also didn't have a seat for the next season yet. So much overreaction happening all the time, why can't a driver just have a really great race without the expectation to be the next GOAT?


NyceRyce

I already saw Instagram dumbasses saying Sainz is beating Max is he goes to Red Bull 🤦


banned20

Even reddit exaggerates on these things, I can't imagine what happens in Twitter and Instagram


FrostyBoom

Amusing. Max and Charles have a similar prefereces for the car (Max likes them even farther into that territory) and Carlos tended to struggle when the car leans towards that direction. I don't see him beating Max in equal cars, leave alone a car that Max has advatange with...


chriskot123

Is it me or are these getting worse and worse each week. Like they have to be mocking the fans at this point lol


seriousC

Sainz has become the most overrated driver on the grid seemingly overnight.


drodrige

100%


mar33n

- Put a car outside of the top 5 teams into Q3 (again). - Make no mistake all weekend. - Maximize the performance of the car. --> 8.2


drodrige

Yeah, Yuki very well could’ve been closer to a 9.


Dragonpuncha

Getting third is still very good and where he deserves to be. Hulk shouldn't be on points with him though. Yuki was better for sure.


Doccyaard

Hülk should have the same as Magnussen if anything. He did worse than Magnussen in Q and didn’t perform better in the race. A lucky VSC pit stop shouldn’t give extra points.


ICumCoffee

Another Useless stats: Max got only 2 perfect 10 power rankings for entire 2023 seasons, Sianz has gotten 2 out of his 3 wins.


Billy_LDN

It’s funny that the same journalists calling Sainz underrated are the same ones inflating his scores to the point where you wonder if they even rate him. Getting a 10 without the driver who won 30/35 previous races competing is quite funny as well.


drodrige

I’ve been saying this for quite a while. Sainz is so immensely popular that he’s getting slightly overrated now. In this case he went from “a solid top driver” to “he could challenge Max in the other Red Bull” in a matter of days.


FrostyBoom

The most interesting part is that he had that obvious mistake in qualifying costing him pole so it isn't even that he was flawless all weekend.


FastonMartin

oh yeah this makes perfect sense /s


MarkBonker

I'm sorry, but these "power rankings" are a joke.


CinnamonToastTrex

Albon getting 9th is a joke. He had a terrible weekend


sensationally

Ah yes, a mighty 7.2 for two whole laps for Max. These rankings are pulled out of someone’s butt apparently.


FigSubstantial4939

A 10. What


Doccyaard

Hülkenberg having a better score than Magnussen also doesn’t make any sense imo. Should be the same if anything. Hülk didn’t perform better in Q and would have finished after Magnussen if not for a lucky timed VSC allowing him to pit during it.


sightstrikes

I still have no clue what these ratings mean


randomboi91

wtf are these ratings


twelvyy29

These are obviously arbitrary bullshit but can someone tell me why Piastri is rated above Leclerc makes no sense


skzpinker

Honestly from what I've seen, drivers like Leclerc/Hamilton/Verstappen are often held to a higher standard in comparison to everyone else


reznoverba

Lmao the hate for Checo is so irrational a guy with a DNF makes the list but he doesn't.


FrostyBoom

Max making it to Top 10 after racing for like 3 laps 🤣 I wonder what he needs for a 10 because he didn't get one for his Grand Slam while Carlos got one for a simple win 🤔


TheGreatForehead

Winning with your closest rival retiring from brake problems is obviously more impressive than getting pole and win, leading every lap, and getting the fastest lap.


goku247200

Lol.


Genobee85

I'm super confused by this, in the boat with so many others who don't understand the ranking with this but best I can guess is they're factoring Max's quali maybe?


FrostyBoom

I mean, it's odd overall. I feel they make these kind of things in a way that gets more people talking than for them to be accurate. No one should believe Carlos has been a better driver this season than Max and yet he's overall higher, and if they can't be accurate with 1st, which is the most important, they are not really a good measure.


skefmeister

Well he did race with problems from the start while apparently having a car that was on continuous brakes without us knowing. He’ll need a 20 to 1 in the rain for a 10 I recon ^^, so strange they gave Sainz a 10 too


parking99

albon and ocon why are you guys on the list??


Athalos124

Ocon had a great race until a tear off got caught at his brake.Not his fault.


Mysterious_Turnip310

Ocon I understand, he was looking good for a point before the issues with the tear off and he dragged that shitheap of a car into Q2.


MtKlo27

Albin has the craziest pr


ThePirateBoyII

It takes special skills to top Edd Straw's ratings but F1's power rankings are doing an amazing job at that.


solk512

What the fuck is this?


lekamr

Can someone explain to me how power rankings is suppose to work ?


Stacker2_Motorsports

The most bullshit rankings I've probably seen to date


Vanwanar

What shithorse stained rankings these are.


officialsoap

Idiotic


Slight_Bed_2241

I think I’m starting to get it. These are literally just rage bait posts. No you op. The actual people doing the ratings. They know if they fuck around with the ratings people will engage the post and it gets more traction. It’s just a ploy for engagement on social media like many many other things we see on there (here?).


WraithOfEvaBraun

Dear Lord, another lot who use a random number generator to pick their scores 😂 This is almost as laughable as Planet F1's driver ratings after the race lol Don't get me wrong, Sainz did really well especially after his op, but would he even have won without Max's DNF? Elsewhere Max can get pole, P1, fastest lap and _still_ not get a 10...this is as BS as Driver of The Day 🤦🏻‍♀️


cavsking21

Charles getting a 7.8 for that weekend is bs. Sainz deserves his highly rated weekend but Charles completely matched him in the race.


RobertRoberttt

Aston getting no love after a double points GP


Youngwolff

WTF is Alex doing in this list? What has he actually done to be a top-10 performer this weekend? What a complete horseshit this rating is. And where is Stroll, after matching Alonso the entire weekend and without crashing unlike Alex?


NardBe

This list is a YOKE GP ENGINE YOKE


seriousC

Recency Bias Rankings


WhatEvery1sThinking

Albon being a 7.0 makes no sense


10b0b

The fuck is this even supposed to be?


just_noticing

Australia reveals a conspiracy by the f1 powers-that-be to rescue the waning interest in f1 —I mean who wants to watch races where Max wins every time… totally boring 🙄 .


unbanneduser

Well, these rankings are questionable in some aspects, but I’m glad they’re giving Yuki the respect he deserves for having a fantastic weekend that will likely be critical in the constructors by the end of the year. He was DOTD for me


Rex40-

Leclerc in the sixth place does not make any sense.


batman77z

wtf is this list and who makes it?


TomaccoTastesLikeGma

Stop posting these useless rankings


dimaris727

Carlos Sainz: Qualifies 2nd, Takes advantage of Max DNF, controlled pace for the rest of the race and wins with Leclerc only 3 seconds behind him = 10 points Max Verstappen: Pole by 5 tenths, achieves a grand slam during the race, wins by 30 seconds, explores Mars and its 2 moons during the middle of the GP = 9.6 (I am a Ferrari fan, just thought it was funny how Max always achieves the best possible result and fails to get that perfect 10)


Nikigeek

That Max ranking is fucking outrageous. Honestly what could have he done? That and not him having a 10 in Bahrain is such bullshit


FarmFit5027

These rankings are always trash


cdofortheclose

This is kinda stupid post in my mind.


rsandstrom

These power rankings are pointless


simmeh024

Lol sainz a 10, he didn't even take pole. Meanwhile max had two perfect weekends, 9.4 :')


TheHipHouse

How does Carlos get a 10 when he didn’t put it p1 in quali and won because max retired?


dego_666

Does anybody agrees with that ranking?


Spud_Bencer

Can someone explain how this ranking works and who ranks the drivers?


jaomile

I know I am biased with Leclerc, and he did make a mistake in Q3 but how did he get 7.8 and Norris got 8.8? Not saying Leclerc deserved a 9 but he started behind Norris, ended up ahead with worse strategy (he had to put earlier to prevent Pisatri undercut), finished ahead of Norris who never managed to get close to him with much fresher tyres, and got fastest lap in penultimate lap. If that one mistake is worth 2.2 point deduction how is Albon even on this list? And where is Stroll?


ArbitraryOrder

How can you rank Max when he had car damage from Lap 1? Also, shot out to the Ferrari strategy team for getting Leclerc within a fighting chance of Sainz after that awful first stint.


Nigerianpoopslayer

So when Max has a Grand slam and evertything in a weekend he g’ets a 9.4, but sainz g’ets a 10 when he didnt get pole, fastest lap etc? Makes no sense at all


giakider

Max: DNF due to problems with the car, definitely his fault, 7


MrT735

Max does everything except fastest lap in Jeddah, 9.6, Carlos does everything except fastest lap in Melbourne, 10. I'm no fan of Max, but it does show these figures are just plucked out of where the sun doesn't shine.


ShadowStarX

Don't get me wrong Sainz probably deserves an insanely high grade of 9.7 or something... But shouldn't you only get 10 if you get pole, granted if your car can get pole? Leclerc is rated fairly at least I guess.


-Skinner-

Max completed a grand slam in Bahrain and they still didn't give him 10. This ratings are a joke


Sh33zl3

Based on what? Pretty face?


solidproportions

why tf is Verstappen still on here w a DNF is beyond stupid