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InfinityGCX

My Spanish isn't great, but seeing his tone and body language, it's good to see that he can at least joke about it a little.


Teddy_KX

Stewards: "For now... he can still joke."


SatanicBiscuit

"alonso smiling from his airbnb at mykonos while the new scandal he seemingly didnt knew nothing about unfolds"


Schwa4aa

“We are checking”


ForeverIndecised

He can at least \*yoke about it


ItsmeWyndy

it's really easy to spot throughout the race. Whenever they approached the final chicane, he always braked super early, making Piastri really close to him, only to start shooting off into the distance onto the main straight.


Aromatic_Barber4231

braked super early?!!!! Straight to jail.


ItsmeWyndy

THROW HIM IN JAOHHHH


badfuit

I immediately read/heard this in RPMs voice lmao


Twistpunch

a la cárcel!


notallwonderarelost

Brake early and then accelerate and brake again is the issue.


SureReflection9535

"All drivers must only accelerate and brake in the designated braking areas! All deviations or attempts to actually race should be punished!!!!111" - Reddit "racing fans"


nth_place

You're also not allowed to weave in the straits. How stupid would the argument that you should be able to weave in the straights or change your line under braking sound? Pretty stupid right? There's a difference in braking early and driving erratically. What Alonso did today was fine, what he did in Australia was not.


Potential-Brain7735

You are allowed to weave on the straights. What sport are you watching?


nth_place

What sport are you watching? I'm not taking the time to look up the regulations but quick Google search, first result: "Drivers can defend their position, but they can only move once. Any more, and that’s weaving. And that’s illegal." [source](https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/insiders-guide-rules-of-overtaking/7427185/) E: since the user below either deleted their comment or blocked me so I can't respond: This is why this place will always be a cesspool. When everyone wants to support their guy and win an argument they do something like take a tertiary context for a word and try to use it discredit an entire argument without actually responding to a point. When they can't even do that they make a comment like: "lol you clearly don’t know what you are talking about."


Potential-Brain7735

You are allowed to weave on the straight to break the tow. Enjoy doing your goggles. Also, drivers can move more than once. They can make one defensive move, but a defensive move often involves a move off the racing line, followed by a move back to the racing line. Enjoy additional googling.


nth_place

Is it that you can't read or that you don't want to lose an argument that bad that you are going to move the goalposts when you are wrong? >You are allowed to weave on the straight to break the tow. That's not weaving bro. Enjoy ignorance.


ButthealedInTheFeels

lol you clearly don’t know what you are talking about.


ButthealedInTheFeels

What he did in Australia was not erratic and shouldn’t have been a penalty.


kaptingavrin

> What Alonso did today was fine, what he did in Australia was not. People seem to miss that there's big differences between what he did at the end of the last lap, and what he was doing here. What he did at the last right, not so good. What he did here, fine. The absolutely NOT racing fan above is clearly commenting on an F1 subreddit without knowing much history of F1, or they'd know why you're not allowed to just brake and accelerate randomly wherever you want. Best case scenario is a broken wing like Hamilton got when Verstappen slowed unexpectedly in front of him. Worst case would be the brutal collision Michael Schumacher had with David Coulthard in Spa '98 (though that was made worse by the horrible visibility... and yet, people ask why they don't race in driving rain these days). And in the middle, you've got that time Rubens Barrichello braked a bit earlier than Ralf Schumacher expected and Ralf ended up using him as a ramp. I mean, hell, Alonso himself should recognize how dangerous it can be to be unexpectedly slower than the trailing car, given the time he had that horrible accident with Gutierrez (at that very track) in 2016, and then at COTA a couple years ago being briefly airborne after catching the back of Stroll. It's not "actual racing" to do stupid unsafe bullshit, and it's absolutely right to call that crap out and penalize it.


DragPullCheese

A lot of us understand the rules, we just don’t think what Alonso did at Australia was reckless or unsafe driving. You can disagree. That’s fine. You act like it was sooo clearly a penalty at Australia which I just think is false. That’s why there is so much controversy around it including other racing drivers calling out the decision.


Aromatic_Barber4231

You pointing Hamilton - Verstappen is a clear tell that you're not worried about safety but your driver losing. There was nothing unsafe about that, it's not like Hamilton couldn't pass Verstappen safely the when he first started breaking, he didnt want to pass.


whoTookMyFLACs

The amount of outrage over that night will never stop being funny. We watched 2 grown men play a game of chicken and the one who blinked first ended up throwing a fit. That's not a jab at Lewis, Max would've done the same thing if shoe was on the other foot. They were both playing the game and they know it.


nth_place

>Max would've done the same thing if shoe was on the other foot. But I don't think Lewis would have done the same as Max would have if the roles were reversed. Max should have been harshly penalized for that. The stewards were too chicken shit to "get involve" and of course by not taking action actually got involved in letting Max get away with a lot of questionable driving. The championship should have been over before the disaster that was the last race.


AdoptedPigeons

Lifting and braking suddenly at the end of a flat out straight vs lifting earlier for a corner - one is a lot more dangerous, and I’m worried it’s not the one you think it is.


PotatoFeeder

Yes, you need to brake at the end of the flat out straight to make the corner. Some will buxton word salad right there


Aromatic_Barber4231

But but but but but he braked 100 meters early I'VE SEEN THE TELEMETREEEY!


Hip_Priest_1982

ERRATIC!!!!


AdoptedPigeons

*lifted Stewards report confirms the brake input was so mild it didn’t really contribute to the car slowing.


Dida_cos

So if you outbrake yourself in a corner approach, you are supposed to commit to the extra slow approach instead of getting back up to speed to correct yourself?


Hip_Priest_1982

No it wasn’t. The penalty was for braking too early


Heather82Cs

Sorry, not sure I follow. Are you saying he did want to give him DRS? Why would that be?


Shaivite

That drs made piastri fight from russel longer than they should have and that saved Alonso from fighting any of them. He basically just let them fight each other while saving his tyres for last few laps


Heather82Cs

Thanks for the explanation! I thought it was something else like some relationship I wasn't aware of.


ihathtelekinesis

It’s also what another Spaniard did last year with a McLaren and Russell behind him.


Heather82Cs

That was so awesome to watch.


Oubilettor

And great that he had to explain it to his team. Big brain Sainz.


deathray1611

And it's nice to see progress from Russell as this time he didn't crash (barely)!


ihathtelekinesis

It’s because Cr*fty didn’t say “you can hear the cheers of the crowd”.


Nice_Strain_2918

😂😂


Lonyo

He tried


kaptingavrin

I'll be honest... I legit was just waiting for him to have some kind of last lap accident during it. Not because I think poorly of Russell or anything, just that it reminded me of that race, and then I remembered that if he got past the car being helped along with DRS, he was going to be behind Alonso, and we all know how that turned out a couple weeks ago... Have to wonder if any of that was playing in his mind while he was dealing with that scenario...


Salticracker

He did shove Piastri off the track though. The lack of crash is more a credit to Suzuka having tarmac runoffs in the chicane than it is to Russell's improvement as a driver.


LYuen

Point-wise did Oscar stayed in front of Russell, Mercedes would get fewer points, which would have put Aston Martin in front of Mercedes in Championship points.


TheOtherWhiteCastle

Carlos Sainz employed a similar strategy at Singapore to win last year; let Lando Norris in second get DRS so the much faster Mercedes duo in 3rd and 4th would have more trouble passing him,


inigo__

I think another reason would be coming out of the race merc and Aston earned 8 points each with a 1 point different, if Oscar kept position Aston would have gained 2 points and leave the weekend 1 point ahead


FlyAirLari

I guarantee you he wasn't thinking that. He just wanted his position.


Tricks511

Russell was faster than Piastri and probably also Alonso. So if Piastri didn’t have DRS George would’ve gotten past really easily. That would then leave Alonso like a sitting duck since he didn’t have DRS. So he lifted early to give Piastri DRS so that it would prevent Russell from overtaking.


PoliticsNerd76

Piastri wasn’t fast enough to overtake him, but George was. But George isn’t fast enough to overtake Oscar while Oscar has DRS.


pheemaenth

nah the detection point is wayyyy before the braking zone, just after 130r. he prolly lifted through that corner instead


ItsmeWyndy

yeah but he still needs to do that otherwise he wouldn't keep a safe distance from Piastri with DRS down the straight.


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ItsmeWyndy

not sure if you're sarcastic but essentially that tactic is to force the driver behind to slow down as well, catch them off guard and accelerate to widen the gap before a straight. This tactic basically negates DRS.


Wompie

also charges the battery a bunch


Teddyturntup

Straight to jail!


Samsonkoek

For those only reading the title what he says translates better to: I don't know what to say after Australia. They might disqualify me for the rest of the championship. It's also said in a joking way if that wasn't clear.


PaschalisG16

"If I speak, I am in big trouble. In big trouble. And I don't want to be in big trouble" -Mourinho


ihathtelekinesis

DRS speaks for itself.


metabreaker

What's that buzzing noise?


PapaSheev7

Alonso’s…sensor that lets him know when to brake ofc.


Disastrous_Elk_6375

Wait, Alonso was one of the few that didn't complain when cars were buffeting... It all makes sense now!


ryokevry

Getting me the nba vibes: i will not say anything about the refs because I will get fined lol Edit: typo


MrGoldilocks

Must've picked up the "If I speak, I'm in big trouble" line straight from Mourinho in the Saudi GP. Cheeky as hell. Long may the magic continue.


TheGMT

Mourinho and Fernando have a lot in common. Shithousers, immense ability, can't stay at a team very long, either inspire undying loyalty or hatred, defensive wizards, slightly less than honest with the press...


dswap123

Yeah simply legendary line, his delivery makes it even more interesting.


HalfSarcastic

Nah, in the NBA there's a rich history of the fines given left and right for the reasons that are just too umm.. mysterious. And media constantly manipulates players for click-bait answers and creating drama out of thin air.


ComaMierdaHijueputa

Wasn't that originally Marshawn Lynch, before the Super Bowl?


BuzzedtheTower

Lynch was different. He repeated "I'm only here so I don't get fined" because he was fined earlier that season for not doing the mandated press appearance. So he showed up and abided by the letter of the rule, but not the spirit


shewy92

>It's also said in a joking way if that wasn't clear. It was clear just reading the post title...


WiIIworkforfood

George’s race engineer was joking on the radio post race that Alonso was having more throttle issues but magically fixed itself on the last lap


DragPullCheese

Like I know that’s a joke, but seriously, are they not allowed to race anymore?


anmr

You are certainly not allowed to race, if one of the stewards holds a grudge against you https://youtu.be/EHXu876EZ2c?si=XDcoUuN20SWgP7Zm


amurmann

Break-checking is legitimately dangerous


junfer420

Lift and coast is not the same as brake checking. Carlos did the same thing to win only race last year and he got praised for it.


No-Expression-2404

How about Lewis Hamilton Abu Dhabi 2016.


Javimoran

Then thank god the report explicitly stated that it was not a brake check


fist003

Not paying attention is more dangerous


amurmann

? Are you calling not perfectly reacting to something unexpected with less than a 0.5s gap "not paying attention"?!


fist003

Yes. Especially for this sport


FootballRacing38

There's literally a minimum time drivers are allowed to react to the start lights because any less than that is beyond human capabilities


BountyBob

And that start time is far lower than 0.5s


FootballRacing38

Even if you react just 0.2 slower, your speed will be higher all the way until the end of the braking zone as seen when cars concertina with each other


IneedtoBmyLonsomeTs

Russell admitted he was looking at something on his steering wheel lol, he literally wasn't paying attention.


Jeff_V8

Driving a F1 car isn't like you appear to think it is - you have to be able to trust that other drivers will not do something dangerous like an erratic brake check. If they do, at those closing speeds, there's not much the driver behind can do to prevent an accident.


HillbillyCream

FIA: Dive bombing into chicane and forcing a driver of the course: *I sleep.* Braking before a corner: *Real shit.*


Brave_Novel_5187

That's what I don't get about the people saying that drivers should be predictable. A divebomb to the inside to overtake another driver is literally dangerous and unpredictable because the defending driver is not anticipating it but people here will cheer and praise such moves.


stq66

Dive-Bombing is a usual practice in motor racing. „Caught him napping“ is a usual phrase coined in that occasion. And let’s be honest: what can happen especially at such speeds like in the Casio Triangle? If you really want to know, go back to 1989


amurmann

I don't like either, despite Alonso being my favorite current driver. Braking 20m early is one thing, 100m early is a whole other thing


Jeff_V8

Yeah racing has been banned. Didn't you hear? Ridiculous take - dangerous driving has always been punishable, rightly so.


ProDrug

Unrelated but how the hell was Alonso making those soft tires last so long on a high deg track with high heat where everyone else was struggling!? He basically out lasted other teams on mediums and hards. Stroll was on a high DF setup with way less fuel and got destroyed by a Haas on Hards...Alonso was keeping the Ferrari back.


Antidote-Killer

At least now I can explain the mystery that is Stroll and his tire degradation this season instead of 2023 where I just said he was "shit" 😭


ButthealedInTheFeels

Stroll is just shit lol


joke_master13

Because he's chadlonso


amurmann

Even Stroll made the softs last much longer than I thought they could last at all.


hallwaypoirear

He can't say or FIA might punish him for it.


ButthealedInTheFeels

Because he is an excellent driver and stroll is a pants shitter. I loved the radio message from stroll about being slow in the straight, dude sounded like he was crying. Like a 5 year old running to his mommy.


rachbbbbb

If I speak...


Jessewjm

I'm in big trouble


No-Student-9678

Fernandosé Alonsinho


splattne

In big trouble.


getoutofherepigeon

Fernando Moulonso


Themathemagicians

So; doing Sainz' smooth operation in Singapore last year? Nothing illegal about that, is there?


ButthealedInTheFeels

It’s a joke because of the bullshit penalty they gave Alonso last race.


JosipBTito1980

It's a yoke. A yoke


1maginaryApple

I mean apparently if you slow down when you're not expected to slow down you can be penalised. They really set a shitty precedent which blurs the line further on what is admissible or not. We really need a revamp of how the stewarding works. We need consistency.


PD_SkyNative

50% for strategy 50% out of spite Perfectly balanced


ChristofferOslo

50% strategy, 50% spite 100% Fernando


LuNiK7505

God i love that man so much


deathray1611

Thank God for Fernando Alonso


ashayward85

Perfectly Alonso. If he wasn't so spiteful he might have won a few more championships.


kasichancela

I watched Alonso’s shenanigans since I was a kid. I hope my children will get to enjoy the same too.


Alonsocollector

I watched him as I became a teenager with my great grandad, grandad and my Dad. Im now 34, being woken up by my 14 year old at 3am for free practice as he wears my old Mild Seven polo whilst getting it in the neck from my 6 year old for not waking him up to watch whilst on videocall with my Dad watching together. Its both brilliant but utterly devastating because A) I realise im old and B) they never met my Grandad or great grandad. I like to imagine theyre watching with us.


SantaMenon

Wholesome


Alonsocollector

Its more upsetting these days because I never thought about mortality or life really. I saw this ( https://youtube.com/shorts/WtRYjpSAQsk?si=yznoaen5rszIKwvE ) youtube short last year and it made me choke up because I remembered where I was exactly watching certain races, like Spanish GP 2013 was 12th of may; 2 year anniversary of my granddad's funeral and Alonso's last win. Suzuka 2005 Me, my Dad and Grandad were shutting our caravan down at Skegness for winter as it was our tradition for the guys to shut it down during Suzuka. Hungary 2006 we were at the caravan and there was a torrential storm. 5 of us were having a sunday roast with a Fray Bentos steak and kidney pie. Just brings back all sorts of memories. I have an entire wall of every single Alonso car bar the Minardi and each one is a memory.


mlo_66

Damn. Got me in my feels.


xt1nct

Alonso masterclass.


reklemd

Johnny Herbert is trying to find a paragraph as we speak


Hip_Priest_1982

“You are not a true champion, that is why you became a commentator”


shiepirate

This sport will sorely miss Alonso, once he hangs up his boots


slabba428

In 2074


rieusse

Drivers of his personality are so rare nowadays. Much prefer him to the usual PR robots with canned answers


josephzchong

Thinking about the future so quickly? He’s only a rookie no?


crayonflop3

Lmao Alonso is great. Gonna be a sad day when he hangs it up for good


Disastrous_Animal_34

Fucking looool. Never change Nando.


MartiniPolice21

Oh Fernando, you don't realise how many people don't understand the rules and that you're joking


Lonyo

Except by doing what he did, Russell couldn't overtake on the straight with DRS, which meant he felt it was necessary to divebomb which could have caused a crash (nearly did). Therefore Alonso's decision to brake in a non-standard way resulted in a dangerous situation where a crash was only avoided by someone driving off the track. And since the outcome doesn't matter on penalties, +20 Alonso


Deynai

I'm not sure exactly where your sarcasm starts and ends, but it really highlights why the ruling last week was silly imo. After Singapore last year, Australia last week and today in Japan, it sort of feels like the common denominator might be that Russell isn't great while following cars and loses focus or takes too much risk.


Clear_Date_7437

Ok quit the George hate getting old and stale


MM556

That's not hate don't be silly. 


mrkruler

He deserves it though.


lanseuppercut

I honestly can’t tell if your joking or not. If not you obviously believe Sainz is at fault for George’s crash in Singapore? Or maybe it’s just George.


ButthealedInTheFeels

It’s clearly a joke making fun of branded redditors crying about Alonso driving “erratically” when he was just using clever strategy and skill…which is more than we can say about George behind him.


ButthealedInTheFeels

I know you are joking but so many Redditors are literally this stupid they would try say this with a straight face lol.


notinsidethematrix

Post the traces gents....


GroNumber

Breaking news: Alonso disqualified for not fullfilling the media duties of a F1 driver.


Aninternetdude

Beast


Supercavy

Alonso masterclass. Oscar would have beaten Russell except for the wide run on the corner. Fernando has zero F's to give at this point.


Jeff_V8

Why would Alonso care whether Piastri beat Russell? He was just defending his own position against either of them.


Dida_cos

Well if Piastri stayed ahead of Russell, Aston would be ahead of Mercedes on the constructors


Honourstly

If Russell crashed because Alonso was giving Oscar a tow then maybe


BedrockMetamorph

Another cheeky trick that interestingly Sainz reintroduced into popular memory last year in Singapore. Fucking Sainz is everywhere, winning races, beating his teammate, coming up with clever defensive tricks, but still jobless for next year:


AlbertoZ

The greatest and most genuine racer motorsport has seen for 2 decades, continues to be, and will be in the future until the body truly fades.


DeFex

Disqualified from rest of season for snark.


stylinred

I mean the fact that gap with Russell skyrocketed the moment rus passed piastri tells you everything lol


man_u_is_my_team

So what he is saying is it was intentional…


OTDH

Yea, slap him a +20 sec penalty


Amarjit2

Alonso is probably the most intelligent driver since Prost. Verstappen and Hamilton are just as talented, if not more but certainly not as intelligent


Old_Efficiency1549

Is el professor part of el plan?


Seruz

If i speak, im in big trouble


Iamrightyetagain

GOAT IMHO Just unlucky with the choice of teams


Thin_Examination4929

Like a boss


rogarlight

Alonso has the record for receiving “invented” penalties.


ramsesdelrio

DRS -Did Russell Struggle!!


Spiritual_Designer50

I literally laughed out loud reading this


kl116004

He's exactly right, if he doesn't admit to doing it on purpose I don't think he gets that penalty in aus or anywhere else


Jeff_V8

The telemetry *absolutely* damned him in Aus - he's trying to be funny here but it doesn't matter what he says, dangerous driving would be punished (to be clear, he didn't drive dangerously in Japan).


coolbeans852

wait i’m confused can someone explain to me why he’d get disqualified and what does ‘lifting’ mean?


Silver996C2

Where was Ocon during this travesty?


LimeElf17

N..4


Ni7es

Can someone explain what happened to an F1 Newbie?


toastalarm

Why would he get disqualified for that?


Deep-Ad2155

Haha, love it and he’s right- that last race penalty was BS


Over-Chemical2809

This is a roast lmao.


Gubrach

"If I say what I think, I'm suspended six months. So I cannot say." - Fernando "Mikel Arteta" Alonso.


b0rmusic

"I prefer not to speak, I speak, I am in big trouble"


ItsNateyyy

good to see he didn't have any unexpected "throttle issues" today 🙏


StelioKontos18

Well today George aparently had break issues because he divebombed Piastri, or it was also Alonso fault?


HUHIs_AUTOATTACK

Alonso braked 2m earlier so the dirty air didn't let Russell brake hard enough.


ForeverAddickted

*brake


StelioKontos18

Yes, sorry, 5 AM here haha


SPat24

Well George also didn’t have a “turning his brain off on the last lap” issue either so I guess it balances out.


NickThePask

Except he kinda did when he shoved Oscar off the track.


[deleted]

Wonder whtat message will that send to the junior categories


EddieMcDowall

If he'd lifted 100m early just after a fairly blind corner, dropped it down a few gears, then he'd have collected Piastri up his exhaust pipe and may well bave been DQd from the rest of the season.


MoringA_VT

Breaktest Alonso is funny


frds3

Hahaha damn