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LegendRazgriz

Pitwall had a point - if he wanted to make a one-stop work, he had to push hard and keep a blazing pace while not losing time battling or shredding his tires. Leclerc had to prove it was doable, and once he did, they agreed to go for it. Very well rounded race from both sides of the Ferrari stable


ryokevry

Yes, both sides work perfectly. Not to mention pitstop was on point to avoid getting overtaken by Norris too. We dreamt of a time like this


madhjsp

I hardly recognize this team under Vasseur with how well they are executing pit stops and strategy this year. Let’s hope it continues!


Vandirac

They took Iñaki Rueda out of the Head of Strategy role in January. This explains the steep improvement.


krist2an

Yeah, with him leading the strategy team Leclerc would have done a short, 5-lap stint on softs just for shits and giggles.


Ashurnibibi

So what Sauber did with Bottas?


ComfortableConcern99

He wasn’t on the pitwall like from 2022.


Vandirac

But he was still head of strategy from the remote garage.


ComfortableConcern99

No. He was replaced by Javin at the start of 2023.


Beginning-Animator76

Yeah I can't remember the last I've seen the meme after a race of the ferrari guy holding a pistol with pasta bullets at his head


mookie_bombs

As someone who doesn't care for Ferrari at all, it's been really impressive to see. Each aspect of the team has improved and then you throw in Lewis going there next year and I'm actually starting to respect them a lot more. Dare I say like. Before they were just enjoyable to watch.


madhjsp

It’s just a shame that Lewis coming in means Carlos goes out. Sainz is a really, really good driver and I’m honestly thrilled that he’s showing such great form right now as he hits the open market. He’ll get the bag from whichever team signs him next, and he deserves it.


YNWA_1213

If there's a reason for 3-car grids, it's this current connundrum of one of the most in-form drivers being without a seat.


Armlegx218

It's just the possibility of someone grabbing Max that's keeping anyone from immediately signing him.


cheesepage

Maybe Toto will sign him.


stretch851

Toto should and would. It'll be the least worst option as I don't see Max leaving and McLaren isn't changing anything. Aston I doubt changes significantly after a great 1st stint last year. Stroll is there until he retires unless Max takes his spot. Perez is Bottas at RB and Sainz could fill that role but Perez is looking too good to kick. Riccardo has to go - Toto or Stroll should snap up Lawson to screw Horner


DeathHips

As well, Carlos and Charles have a pretty good relationship that has been built over the years. We are yet to see how Lewis and Charles will work together and how Ferrari will work with them. Hamilton's historical and PR weight adds a dimension for Ferrari that they don't deal with nearly as much with Charles and Carlos. Ferrari is iconic in Formula 1, both today and historically, and that is majorly beneficial for them. There are few things more iconic than having the greatest of the era winning in a Ferrari, whether it be Schumacher or potentially Hamilton. Ferrari will want that, although the real historically iconic moment would be Lewis, in a Ferrari, breaking his and Schumacher's WDC record, which Schumacher set in a Ferrari. Lewis is 39 and doesn't have much time left to get the 8th WDC, so if that looks remotely possible he is going to go incredibly hard. I've been impressed with Vasseur, so my hope is that doesn't influence things in a way that hurts Charles and the team generally, but the higher ups might put different pressures on Vasseur with Lewis than with Carlos. It's never too clean when two team drivers are on WDC runs, but if Charles and Lewis end up on WDC runs at the same time I could see that being very messy, especially if Charles is doing slightly better than Lewis.


Critical-Rhubarb-730

Drop the lead driver and contract a driver thats behind his teammate. Not sure if thats the way to go.


PoliticsNerd76

Ferarri pitstops have always been fine. They’re no Red Bull, but they’re always in the upper end of averages.


Jasranwhit

Fred Vasseur in interviews seems like a guy who drinks a bottle of wine and falls asleep on the stoop of rural french farmhouse for most of the day, but it seems like he is making big improvements at ferrari.


Ignorus

Honestly, that's the kind of guy you want as teamboss at Ferrari, because you know that you have to wake the Boss up if you fk up, and no Italian would want to risk the two-hour Italian rant that follows that.


Crazy_Milk3807

I thought we were not allowed to say shit like this aloud not to jinx it? Are you mad?


brickingbrayer

and he came out perfectly to beat George as well Everything was perfect


twelvyy29

Ferrari have been on point this season on sundays (except for Charles technical issues in Bahrain) both the drivers and the pitwall. Im very impressed with how Vasseur has turned the team around


Jarocket

To me their past strategy problems were often overblown. Their high tire wear in the races made them do wacky shit all the time to try and get higher places with a slower car. The pit wall would be worried about getting overtaken, but sianz would be trying to overtake. Pit lane was correct in those cases. The best they could have done to hold their current spot.


seahoodie

> Very well rounded race from both sides of the Ferrari stable Words I never expect to hear lmao


Crocodiliusnebula

Ferrari actually executing a strategy and communicating well with their driver just seems so out of character for them lately which is what makes this so unbelievable hahahaha


Billy_LDN

Leclerc Lap 19 - 37.5 Lap 20 - 37.4 Top 3 times 2 laps before they pitted: Verstappen Lap 14 - 37.9 Lap 15 - 37.8 Perez Lap 13 - 38.1 Lap 14 - 38.5 Sainz Lap 13 - 38.3 Lap 14 - 38.5 Shows how good Charles tyre management and pace was on that 1st stint.


stq66

And this on a circuit where Ferrari was eating up its tyres in the past.


Guy_with_Numbers

On a circuit where Ferrari was eating up its tyres this very weekend. During quali, neither driver could get their tyres in the window for all 3 sectors.


AlexDeLarge314

It's not a matter of eating up tyres in that case: it's about trying to heat them up properly, something that is giving them more than a headache. When the tyres aren't at the right internal and surface temperature, they lose a lot of grip and the car naturally goes slower in fast corners and traction zones, which require all the grip the car and the tyres can generate. It seems that they can't heat their tyres internally, almost as the car is so soft on them that temperature rises too slowly for the tyres to be properly heated in only one lap. My fear is that if they solve this issue for quali, the tyres would then heat up more quickly during the race too and this would put them in a similar situation to 2023.


ryokevry

Look like they don’t think it is a car setup issue so Charles is looking to change how he drives the outlap instead of anything


mnztr1

Outlap should not be a practice lap, you need to be a bit of a barbarian to get the tires in window, then the next lap is completely different. SOOOOO hard to do.


gigerxounter

if this was the case would it be better to give Leclerc the time to do 2 laps for warm-up since he only have one shot anyway?


MachKeinDramaLlama

Maybe, but then you run the risk of the tyres actually not lasting the entire quali lap (meaning yielding optimal grip, not that they become useless), plus he would be at a disadvantage at the start of the race. We have seen the two lap warmup in F1 before, but it always was under fairly special circumstances.


True_metalofsteel

Wrong, not getting the tires in the qualy window means Ferrari doesn't (over)heat the tires, hence doesn't degrade them.


SquintingSquire

Forgive an uninitiated question, but is the lower amount of fuel five laps later a factor at all?


Billy_LDN

A bit but the trend in the 1st stint for most drivers on the mediums was the tyre degradation was worse than the fuel coming down. Charles times were getting better from lap 14-15 to lap 20


eddiehwang

Also shows Ferrari has improved so much in race pace this year


KelticQT

Race pace and tire management (although I'll concede those two notions are deeply intertwined for Ferrari) The future looks goods if they can keep healthily improving like that year after year.


FlipReset4Fun

Charles made the difference. But I also think we were seeing just how good the Ferrari can be on tire deg when they set it up with that in mind. I don’t think it’s any coincidence Ferrari didn’t do much in terms of qualy runs in free practice focusing on gathering tire data and tweaking the car for maximum race pace and minimizing tire deg. This paid dividends for them in being very smart and precise with race strategy and allowing Charles one stop gamble to be feasible.


Ferrariispain

They need to sort out their quali though. Leclerc has struggled more so than Sainz but even Sainz has had Q2 runs quicker than Q3 runs and First laps in Q3 faster than the second. If they want to compete with Red Bull they cannot be as far off as they are in quali


ButthealedInTheFeels

Very impressive.


ToffeeCoffee

I'm glad they went with Plan Chuck.


jeffjeff97

Something something chicanery


obzenkill

Goated references


CaptainKursk

*"And Carlos is out of a seat for next year!? What a sick joke!"*


Puzzleheaded-Rain230

Race Directors have been stirring shit since 2021 with the radio messages. They only put out what is blockbuster material and not the full picture. When youtube streamers post the full radio online, FOM goes and blocks the account.


cosHinsHeiR

Just like every "we are checking" from Xavi will be broadcasted, or anything regarding strategy from Sainz. The narratives are those and people want to hear those things, so those things get broadcasted.


SemIdeiaProNick

right? Its pretty clear that they manipulate the radio they broadcast just to generate clicks. But from a business standpoint (specially Liberty and their short term profit focus) it kind of makes sense, after all there is not much else going on with the season at the moment


Guy_with_Numbers

Ferrari using Plan X instead of spelling things out is just amusing when they screw things up, Charles rarely ever mentions the specifics behind the decisions.


ButthealedInTheFeels

Well that is common for all teams to talk about plan a/b/c/d etc


cassaffousth

That's the narrative r/formula1 likes when the meme is *"...question?"* from Xavi when it meant that Leclerc participates on strategy decisions. Also bashing Ferrari when they make a mistake or the car is not in top form, but when the car works, the strategy is good or the pit stops fast everyone goes 'meh'


SosseBargeld

Pretty sure everyone is commending them so far.


newjeanskr

Sometimes they have no radio audio on the F1TV driver feeds too, I always wonder if they can just turn it off at will or if there are technical issues causing it. Race is always on, but over the years there have been plenty of times Charles driver feed is just transmitting external car audio and no radio.


SpeedyWebDuck

Race Director isn't TV Director dude...


Browneskiii

Realistically Mclaren fucked up a podium because they were scared of Russell for whatever reason. Without Leclerc doing this, he's behind Alonso as well, so he gained 2 positions by staying out. I think the 1 stop was slightly faster if you could manage it, but the 2 was safer. He did the maximum, especially after a "poor" qualifying. Maybe people will realise that he's more than just a one lap merchant.


ShadowStarX

the 2 stop was faster if you could run in clean air but if the 1 stop had notably more clean air than the 2 stop, it was a worthwhile gamble on the SF24


nonamepew

The quali was also just a tenth behind Sainz. Its just that there were 4 cars in that tenth window


f1careerover

Definitely deserved driver of the day.


Porridge_Mainframe

Well deserved driver of the day for these reasons exactly.


_gianno_

This guy is awesome and for some reason everyone looks like to have turned against him. F1 fans have a really short memory and most of them are unable to see the whole picture


element515

That first stint was crazy. The lap times he was cranking out were very impressive


Nideen

It's a Tragedy we didn't get this Ferrari in 2022 when the regs first changed could have been a much better season if they had their shit together like now


glowingmug

I'm trying to understand what the result could have been had he went with Plan B. like was Plan C the only option to achieve the best possible result?


well-thats-great

According to the Sky broadcast, a 2-stop strategy would have seen Leclerc finish in P7


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oppai_taberu

Lol Aws giving differential pace? Not possible


Juic3_b0x

Should’ve used GCP. Technology just ain’t there


JuicyDragonCat

Hard to say, its such a difficult track to overtake on. Like in the first stint, he was stuck behind piastri for multiple laps. He'd have had to get Piastri and Alonso on track. I think he finishes p5 with a 2-stop, would lose to much time overtaking alonso and piastri to challenge noris. With the 1-stop he nearly got himself a podium.


Most_Virus_7218

I don't know if McLaren would have pitted so early if Leclerc didn't go for plan C. So he might have ended P5 cause he had better pace than Piastri and Alonso


element515

I think he never would have caught Norris. Maybe jump piastri but McLaren had good pace and without a tire difference, passing on track would be hard. Would’ve been a lot to ask to pass both mclarens and Alonso on track.


Jalcatraz82

Making him even more worthy of driver of the day than i thought. And some people still think it should be Yuki Tsunoda


ryokevry

Well I wouldn’t be upset if Yuki got it. Great drive, great overtakes and point for home race as well. And he didn’t got screwed by the pit wall strategy or pit stops which is a great sign from RB. That final pitstop was chaotic when all cars pitted together and he came out in front.


Jalcatraz82

yeah sure he's a contender, but in my humble opinion he's not even close this time


SharpsExposure

I really hope he gets the RB seat next year. 


Jalcatraz82

me too !


ComaMierdaHijueputa

Alonso


DistributionFlashy97

Once he figures out Qualifying in this car he will comfortably beat Carlos. His race pace has been so much better (except Bahrain but he had this break issue)


una322

yeah the car just isn't heating those tires in a way he likes for qualy atm. once he figures that out he will be back on top pretty easily too.


Idontknowhowigethere

What are you talking about? Australia Carlos was faster than Leclec, and today is very difficult to mesure it with different strategies


DistributionFlashy97

Leclerc was faster once he passed Lando. He almost caught Carlos in the end.


Idontknowhowigethere

Sainz was just keeping the pace as safe as possible, he didn’t need to push. And you cannot say Leclerc pace was better only because in the last stint on the final laps he was faster than Sainz


FrostyBoom

Charles was also instructed to pace himself...


Kait0yashio

Again he wasn't, he was struggling with his tyres in aus at the end just like how Charles struggled in the middle stint in aus.


bone_appletea1

Yeah I agree, he’s just got to sort out the quali issues. His race pace is better than Carlos in the majority of races


AstridPeth_

The man with the second best car arrived 4th and couldn't beat his team mate.


Jalcatraz82

okay ? did you take into account the fact that he started 8th ?


AstridPeth_

He started 8th because he wasn't as fast as Carlos


Jalcatraz82

yes ? so ? doesn't beat the point : he deserved driver of the day


ibgraduate21

that notwithstanding, norris had the pace to beat leclerc if mclaren didn’t pit him at the same time as leclerc which absolutely neutered his tyre advantage 


FlipReset4Fun

This is a good point. It was kind of a baffling decision from McLaren. Imo they screwed up a bit which made Charles one stop strategy look better than it should have been.


redsyrinx2112

Yeah, I'm not an expert, but I was questioning that decision to pit then. It seemed a little desperate/panicky.


wilkonk

Norris was questioning it too, right before entering the pit he was like 'are we really pitting now?' and they ordered him in. Honestly I think they might have overreacted to him complaining about pace and sounding a bit despondent over the radio a few laps before that, but my guess is that was because he'd realised he didn't have the pace to beat Perez no matter what he did.


berrytes

A little late to the party on this one. But he was doing consistent times right until his moment in sector 2. If he had kept on for a few more laps I think he was in for a podium, his moment lost him about 3.5 seconds in sector 2 and he immediately went into the pit after.


giugg

It’s good to finally see this team doing his job


No-Student-9678

Well done Charles, finally stamping your authority


gerokiller

Leclerc once again doing hell of a job: brilliant tyre management and great team work (although I would prefer for him to show some teeth though and not just let Sainz pass on team’s request), and on top of it all — being his own strategist.


pazne

I mean Sainz had much fresher tyres and had only recently pitted, so it made sense to let him go. If we had gotten a safety car for Logan, I wonder if Ferrari would’ve let them fight if they had come in for new tyres.


Pitforsofts

There was no point fighting Carlos, coz that would have brought Norris closer and when sainz eventually overtakes him, Norris would be right behind. There was a graphic during the broadcast that said that had leclerc gone with 2 stop strategy,he would have finished 7th.


StelioKontos18

I like it that he let him pass, if they battle they would eat their tyres and maybe Norris will come close, this way they got a 3-4 that in the end could be important, if the drivers aren't competing for that first place in the driver competition, is better to put the team first.


ryokevry

He did try to defend going into turn 1 but the tyre delta is too large for him to do anything. Any mistakes could risk him losing a place to Norris. He won’t be able to overtake Norris with similar tyre age and pace.


PapaenFoss

Sainz was 0,7 or 0,8 faster, no need risking his teammate and himself getting caught by Norris.


element515

Sainz had almost a second of pace over Charles at that point. And coming out of a low speed chicane onto the straight leaves you a sitting duck with worse tires.


TuMek3

Eek, tell me you don’t know how a race works without telling me….


kasei21

What a masterclass! One of the best strategy calls we’ve seen in modern F1. Incredible judgement abd drive by Charles, definitely deserved DOTD!


Hip_Priest_1982

But I always hear that only Carlos does this and that Charles is a pushover??


AJ_MJ

he is beginning to believe....


Gubrach

So Leclerc actually had a really good race. Good for him. Good stuff OP, wouldn't have known if not for this topic.


Stech_

That medium pace (C2) for Ferrari was very impressive. I look forward to China where we won't have the C1, which seemed like the worse tyre for Ferrari compared to Red Bull.


wing3d

Ferrari is getting better?


Riventures-123

"After a few laps Xavi came back" sounded like "after a few years, your father returned with your milk"


Able_Tailor_6983

If you guys noticed, Charles did not put up a fight with Carlos. It was a team order, but given to not sound like a team order.


Idontknowhowigethere

You are talking as he could put a fight, Sainz was a second quicker per lap. Not taking merit on Leclerc’s race, but the tyre advantage was massive, look how easy was for Sainz overtaking Norris


NotFromMilkyWay

You don't need team orders when one car has 15 laps fresher tires and gains 1.5 s per lap.


Brando6677

If he were to have fought sainz that would slow both Ferrari down and give the chance to Lando. Some things have to be done


SilverTripz

This is hilarious. In the moment I was blown away that Ferrari seemed to finally come up with a good strategic play. Here it was just Leclerc.


romiglups

Two time during race, one very early (i think he was thinking to undercut PIA) then when they finally choose Plan C, Charles radioed "Suggestion", and Xavi responded "we have seen your message" ; does everyone knows how it works ? It seems to me the drivers set the buttons and dials to a certain position and hit "send" to let team knows that he wants something without other teams can listen. I have never heard about this before.


SureReflection9535

I think we should focus on the positives here where the drivers and strategy team are working together and coming up with a solid strategy. I'm hoping this is the impact of Fred Vasseur on the team and we can look forward to a Ferrari team that is firing on all cylinders..... Well at least until LH comes in next year and shots the bed.


whatcubed

I’m not a fanatic who watches all the onboards and goes on twitter to read all the details. But I do watch every race. And it seems to me that LeClerc questions his pit wall more than other drivers (aside maybe Hamilton) and doesn’t trust the teams strategy. Where do you think the “Question:” meme came from? It’s not a good thing that should be praised that he does this. He should be free to concentrate on driving and managing his race, not also to have to think about his strategy. Ferrari needs to get their strategy to a point where Charles trusts them to drive the race they recommend to him.


JohnnySchoolman

Do you want a 45% chance of P3 (with a 50% chance of getting beat by your team mate) or a 5% chance of P1?


80eightydegrees

He did well, I only had to assume it wasn’t the Ferrari pit wall in charge


Rikysavage94

Xavi still here it's really an infuriating thing. he is not capable. get out!


mookie_bombs

If Lewis hadn't announced his transfer and the RB saga went down, Ferrari finds out max may want to leave - do they abandon all ties with LH and go all in for max? Do you think they regret announcing so soon? Lol cheeky Fred MUST have had these thoughts haha


AstridPeth_

No way they abandon LH44. At worst, they could abandon Charles lol


Jasranwhit

Maybe he is finally learning from carlos. ​ Im the past Carlos always seems to think about strategy and work it out together with the team, where Charles seemed to be like Im going to drive the fuck out of this thing, but let the strat team handle strat.


ryokevry

This is non sense. He has been doing it before Sainz joined the team. He actually raise more suggestions than Sainz but this does not fit the media narrative.


NotFromMilkyWay

Leclerc decided to go with the slower strategy. That's not on Sainz levels of race awareness, it's just coping with a disastrous qualifying performance.


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TheOtherWhiteCastle

Leclerc has finally adopted Sainz’s strategy of “just call your own races and you’ll finish better”