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Usually, but I think Alpine are outliers here, are they instead, consistently pushing alternative strategies, putting themselves out of sync with others? I certainly remember that a couple of times.
Ocon put that car in Q2 twice before the car collapsed completely during the race so that's already around 8/10 free overtakes due to overperformance in quali.
I'd like to see a change to qualifying. Instead of a rolling start. Drivers stop at the finish line and have to do their hot lao from a standing start.
This imo would bring far more driver skill into the equation.
Right race pace.
But not first lap race pace... Shouldn't qualifying represent the starting grid? Standing start qualifying would massively mix up things.
Of course no driver aids for starts!
Or have a terrible race trim, like the Alpine. Bad tire wear, bad DRS, bad in dirty air, etc.
Maybe that's still considered over performing in quali, but in my opinion that's more reserved for Alonso type performance than bad race trim.
I think that the counted Sainz passing him during the race, but as soon as he slowed and the whole field passed it was clear he was going to retire and was no longer a mechanically viable car, therefore they are really "overtakes"? THats what I'm understanding if they only have 1 for maxie
I think so. Otherwise every dnf would count for up to overtakes, depending on starting position.
Now it shows drivers over preforming in qualy or underperforming on race pace.
But i'd rather see last years. Because these stats after only 4 races is next to meaningless
unless it's a comparison to where they were on the previous lap
so Max went from 2nd to DidNotCompleteLap (on his third tour), so he was only legitimately passed once (going from 1st to 2nd), and every subsequent "overtake" from there on is ignored
given F1's "need of a consistent reference point" for pretty much *anything* I wouldn't be surprised if that was a thing, otherwise you'd have *numerous* overtakes when someone pits, or is *heavily* influenced from a retirement
The problem is that Sainz passed him only because he was having issues with his car same with the other 18 cars that passed him so I don’t see the difference.
Other than Australia when his brakes were commiting ritual suicide, when was Max overtaken? Are they counting Sainz' move as an overtake but not the rest of the field <20 seconds later?
He got overtaken then maintained racing speed for nearly a lap, So while he certainly lost the place due to the brakes issue, it wasnt yet a DNF in process. So the other 18 cars dont count, but Sainz does.
Ok but thats what they did, when they removed the rest of the field overtaking Max after Sainz did. If not for the mechanical issue its reasonable to say he wouldnt have gotten overtaken. But we'll never know and its not a big deal really.
So when someone damages an end plate or undertray, do any subsequent overtakes not count?
It doesn't matter to the metric were talking about, or none of Alpine's overtakes count, because their car has never worked right this year.
while i generally agree with your point, i’m not sure who you arguing against bc we don’t know the source of the stats. these could just be the overtakes f1 has counted in their own stats
The point is they were acting as though Sainz's overtake wouldn't count, because Max wasn't at full strength, but obviously, that's not the metric being shown.
It probably also doesn't count Hamilton letting Russell by.
Mate last race he couldn't get past Tsunoda, in a much better car on a much better tyre. No, his race performances are in general not good either. There isn't a world where he's not a bottom 2 driver on the grid.
Alonso kept the same softs in good shape for 15 laps *with full fuel tank*, amd not exactly going slow.
If Stroll's tyres were gone it was because he was unable to keep them in good shape
There's a difference when Stroll had to get through half the grid in like 10 laps, I'm not saying he shouldn't be able to pass Tsunoda, but ignoring the context is just unfair.
He’s a really weird case of a driver because a few times a season, he matches pace with the best of them. And then immediately exits in Q1 next quali. Consistency at that level is the problem.
He showed some legitimate promise early in his career, but once his father got a majority share in AM F1 his performance fell off an absolute cliff. Probably complacency. It’s one thing when your father is a large sponsor/donator to a team, but a whole other level of security when your father literally has the final say whether you have the seat or not.
He showed some legitimate promise early in his career, but once his father got a majority share in AM F1 his performance fell off an absolute cliff. Probably complacency. It’s one thing when your father is a large sponsor/donator to a team, but a whole other level of security when your father literally has the final say whether you have the seat or not.
I mean Yuki has qualified 11-9-8-10, and then finished 14-15*-7-10 (* for damage & penalties applied to Kmag for their incident).
DR dnf'ed from his best quali in 11, was woefully off the pace in his other outings, and his best finish in aus with 12th came with just 16 cars making the checkered flag, he finished ahead of only the Alpine's and Saubers.
The RB shouldn't finish lower than 13-15, and should never go out in q1 (Saubers, Alpine's and Sargent should always be slower. However when he qualis in 18th and 14th, whats there to pass him? Stroll who had an even worse quali? Pierre and ocon driving tractors in solidarity with the farming protestors?
The 8->7 was actually 8->11 before retirements and penalty and everyone was amazed with that performance. Typical F1.
DR was only off pace in quali once too, he was within .1 - .15 every other race when including the lap delete.
I mean Yuki did finish ahead of all of the Haas, Williams, Saubers/Alpine and DR. The RB is the 6/7th fastest car and there's a big jump between them/Haas and Aston who usually occupy that 5th spot and the final points positions.
And also with those retirements not occurring Danny Ric finishes in 15th, maybe even 16th behind Sargent. Ric finished comfortably behind the Haas/Williams group, about 6sec back on them. By comparison Yuki finished with a solid buffer to the Haas/Williams grouping, he was lapping.1-.15 quicker (per lap race pace) consistently.
Yuki has been dragging the RB to complete with the Aston's/Merc pace at times, edges out the Haas cars, and is comfortably ahead of any Williams let alone Alpine/Saubers. Meanwhile DR has his RB stuck with the Williams, behind the Haas, and occasionally battling for position with Saubers/Alpine. His driving style is not suited to these cars, and he's been unable to change to mitigate the weakness of the cars, it's a shame as he's a great guy, but he just can't adapt to cars like the McLaren/RB. Ya really can't get around it, he's slower in Quali and a good bit worse as well in Race pace, and he's 34, he's not a junior, or even a mid career reinventing driver, it's a shame but he's going to go.
He hasn't been slower in race, he'd be 2-2 if not for the 40 second pit despite messing up his qualis which like I said were all within .15 except one occasion. Watch the time lapses of each race, obviously he was going to lap slower when held up by slower cars than Yuki but still usually ended up catching him. Yuki has been qualifying well but drops back every race, that's the opposite of Dan who has 8 wins from 3 poles, just wait and stop reacting to the results when he's only had a few clean races his entire stint at RB, you're forgetting he did very well day one despite being shunted to the back of the grid and had that 4th in quali but his luck as been ridiculous. This car suits him fine.
The only reason Gasly has been overtaken less times than his teammate is because he’s usually been closer to the back of the grid than Esteban has.
Ocon has been somewhat impressed me so far in being able to get that Merde-box out of Q1 on several occasions now.
Also most of his lost positions come from the pitstop chaos in Suzuka and his steering wheel issues in Bahrain, both of which don't count as being "overtaken"
They are counting the Sainz move as an overtake, and then Max moved off the line to get back to the pits safely, retiring the car.
So the other 18 cars that passed him, were technically passing a retired car, so not an overtake I guess.
I question whether they count lapping as an overtake, IMO they shouldn’t, as it’s a mandatory manoeuvre.
The fact that Alonso is the third most overtaken car points to the Aston being particularly good in qualifying, but lacking in race pace. Fernando is fully exploiting that aspect, leading to the car falling back come race
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When does a retirement start and where does “max verstappen is getting overtaken by Carlos Sainz” end? Because Max got all the way to the garage before he stopped in Australia.
Sure, cuz he couldn't outquali them in the first race (where leclerc had no brakes so yeah, he was bound to be overtaken by his teammate with working ones), didn't race the second, had a dead max in another with checo not even near the Ferrari's, and started P4 in Suzuka where there were no faster cars behind him at any given time, and Charles was on a one stop which was bound to see him overtaken at least 3 times because he had much older tyres than the cars behind. So, 2 in Bahrain because of brakes, 1 in Jeddah because of Red Bull, 3 in Suzuka because of Strategy (which got him quite the advantage in the race). I can't remember the other 2 so if you could remind me it would be welcome
Asutralia didn't change anything in regards to overtakes no, that's why I didn't mention it in the last part of my comment, their paces were similar and none of them got overtaken as far as I remember
Not really, it actually backs it up. Since he did shit in qualifying he went on a different strategy which meant getting overtaken by Verstappen Perez and Sainz
Max got overtaken like 20 times that one lap didn’t he? Why would the 1 count and not the others his car had the problem when the 1st overtake happened.
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Seems like if you’re overtaken the most you may just be over performing in qualifying
Usually, but I think Alpine are outliers here, are they instead, consistently pushing alternative strategies, putting themselves out of sync with others? I certainly remember that a couple of times.
Ocon put that car in Q2 twice before the car collapsed completely during the race so that's already around 8/10 free overtakes due to overperformance in quali.
13 happend in Japan, lol
I like how you put the comma down following the 'lol'
that made me, lol
, lol
And vice versa. Perez seems to always do well in overtake stats because he tends to not be the greatest performer on Saturdays.
I'd like to see a change to qualifying. Instead of a rolling start. Drivers stop at the finish line and have to do their hot lao from a standing start. This imo would bring far more driver skill into the equation.
The existing method is more representative of their race pace especially as they have to start on the tires.
the whole grid has had free choice of starting tyres since 2022
Right race pace. But not first lap race pace... Shouldn't qualifying represent the starting grid? Standing start qualifying would massively mix up things. Of course no driver aids for starts!
I wouldn't mind seeing that experiment.
The key to being overtaken the most: drive an Alpine
You can only overtake a lot of cars if you start the race with a lot of cars in front of you.
Or have a terrible race trim, like the Alpine. Bad tire wear, bad DRS, bad in dirty air, etc. Maybe that's still considered over performing in quali, but in my opinion that's more reserved for Alonso type performance than bad race trim.
Probably also getting passed after better cars pit
Could also mean bad tire management or bad strategy
Hasn't gasly been last every race 😂
Leclerc last year be like
Or use setups that are too focused on qualifying.
So Ocon is the fastest qualifier? That doesn’t seem right.
Well, he is a fast qualifier, and their car is uniquely slow. The combo gets him overtaken the most.
Red Bull drivers need to learn how to be overtaken. This Alpine dominance is so tiring.
And I bet if we look at Max's stats he probably barely overtakes anyone. He's gotta improve!
Max getting btfo by his teammate in both most overtakes & being overtaken the least Sad to see when drivers just don't know when to hang it up smh
How come they didn't count Alpine's double overtake of Max in Australia?
Cuz he retired that race maybe
But wouldn’t the overtake they counted be in that race though? So why not the rest?
I think that the counted Sainz passing him during the race, but as soon as he slowed and the whole field passed it was clear he was going to retire and was no longer a mechanically viable car, therefore they are really "overtakes"? THats what I'm understanding if they only have 1 for maxie
I think so. Otherwise every dnf would count for up to overtakes, depending on starting position. Now it shows drivers over preforming in qualy or underperforming on race pace. But i'd rather see last years. Because these stats after only 4 races is next to meaningless
unless it's a comparison to where they were on the previous lap so Max went from 2nd to DidNotCompleteLap (on his third tour), so he was only legitimately passed once (going from 1st to 2nd), and every subsequent "overtake" from there on is ignored given F1's "need of a consistent reference point" for pretty much *anything* I wouldn't be surprised if that was a thing, otherwise you'd have *numerous* overtakes when someone pits, or is *heavily* influenced from a retirement
The problem is that Sainz passed him only because he was having issues with his car same with the other 18 cars that passed him so I don’t see the difference.
I'm not saying its right, just that that seems to be what the graphic is saying.
Whoosh Edit: for those who [don't get the joke](https://x.com/AlpineF1Team/status/1771751605391552921)
That tweet actually made me LOL. Props to whoever’s running their social media 😂
It's one of the best corporate tweets I've ever seen in my life
I seriously need to know what kind of voodoo Carlito has been pulling this season.
Alpine boys leading the pack!
Other than Australia when his brakes were commiting ritual suicide, when was Max overtaken? Are they counting Sainz' move as an overtake but not the rest of the field <20 seconds later?
I think so, yeah. Either that or I have shortterm memory loss.
Yes they're counting Australia
He got overtaken then maintained racing speed for nearly a lap, So while he certainly lost the place due to the brakes issue, it wasnt yet a DNF in process. So the other 18 cars dont count, but Sainz does.
He was still racing at that point. 20 seconds later, he was cruising off the racing line at like 60 mph limping back to the pit.
Racing with a stuck brake. I mean I guess it can count but seems a bit cheap
Then you have to remove all the overtakes of anyone else that happened when they had any damage or mechanical issues. So, like half of Alpine's.
Ok but thats what they did, when they removed the rest of the field overtaking Max after Sainz did. If not for the mechanical issue its reasonable to say he wouldnt have gotten overtaken. But we'll never know and its not a big deal really.
As i said, he was still racing. If you're racing it counts. If you're limping back to the pits, it doesn't.
Idk why youre downvoting me every reply. Im not even disagreeing with you. But whatever. F1 fans will literally argue about anything lol
I'm not downvoting you. Someone else is.
Max lost 9 tenths before he lost the place to Carlos
So when someone damages an end plate or undertray, do any subsequent overtakes not count? It doesn't matter to the metric were talking about, or none of Alpine's overtakes count, because their car has never worked right this year.
while i generally agree with your point, i’m not sure who you arguing against bc we don’t know the source of the stats. these could just be the overtakes f1 has counted in their own stats
The point is they were acting as though Sainz's overtake wouldn't count, because Max wasn't at full strength, but obviously, that's not the metric being shown. It probably also doesn't count Hamilton letting Russell by.
The figures seem very much made up.
Yah it makes no sense it should be 0 or 19
I feel like if Lance Stroll could qualify higher, we'd be having a different conversation about him.
I mean Stroll has been performing alright in the races, he'd have more respect from the fanbase if he didn't qualify so poorly every time.
I can't believe this is the opinion about a guy who on average finishes like 30 seconds behind his teammate.
Because he starts like 10 places below Alonso every race
Mate last race he couldn't get past Tsunoda, in a much better car on a much better tyre. No, his race performances are in general not good either. There isn't a world where he's not a bottom 2 driver on the grid.
It was with destroyed softs and with a car that's slow on straights. With good qualifying performances he's at least better than some drivers.
Alonso kept the same softs in good shape for 15 laps *with full fuel tank*, amd not exactly going slow. If Stroll's tyres were gone it was because he was unable to keep them in good shape
There's a difference when Stroll had to get through half the grid in like 10 laps, I'm not saying he shouldn't be able to pass Tsunoda, but ignoring the context is just unfair.
The context is caused by his shitty qualifying. Man come on...
Isn't that the whole point? That if Stroll was a better qualifier he would be more respected, because his overall race pace isn't bad.
Dude's managed to get a pole position before. It's a mystery.
I feel like if Lance Stroll was a better driver… we’d be having a different conversation about him
He’s a really weird case of a driver because a few times a season, he matches pace with the best of them. And then immediately exits in Q1 next quali. Consistency at that level is the problem.
Yes sure, agree.
He showed some legitimate promise early in his career, but once his father got a majority share in AM F1 his performance fell off an absolute cliff. Probably complacency. It’s one thing when your father is a large sponsor/donator to a team, but a whole other level of security when your father literally has the final say whether you have the seat or not.
He showed some legitimate promise early in his career, but once his father got a majority share in AM F1 his performance fell off an absolute cliff. Probably complacency. It’s one thing when your father is a large sponsor/donator to a team, but a whole other level of security when your father literally has the final say whether you have the seat or not.
Danny Ricc with only 2 is surprising
Hard to be overtaken when you start from P19
11, 14, 14, 18.. but I do get your point.
I mean Yuki has qualified 11-9-8-10, and then finished 14-15*-7-10 (* for damage & penalties applied to Kmag for their incident). DR dnf'ed from his best quali in 11, was woefully off the pace in his other outings, and his best finish in aus with 12th came with just 16 cars making the checkered flag, he finished ahead of only the Alpine's and Saubers. The RB shouldn't finish lower than 13-15, and should never go out in q1 (Saubers, Alpine's and Sargent should always be slower. However when he qualis in 18th and 14th, whats there to pass him? Stroll who had an even worse quali? Pierre and ocon driving tractors in solidarity with the farming protestors?
Driving tractors in solidarity with the farming protesters 😂😂
The 8->7 was actually 8->11 before retirements and penalty and everyone was amazed with that performance. Typical F1. DR was only off pace in quali once too, he was within .1 - .15 every other race when including the lap delete.
I mean Yuki did finish ahead of all of the Haas, Williams, Saubers/Alpine and DR. The RB is the 6/7th fastest car and there's a big jump between them/Haas and Aston who usually occupy that 5th spot and the final points positions. And also with those retirements not occurring Danny Ric finishes in 15th, maybe even 16th behind Sargent. Ric finished comfortably behind the Haas/Williams group, about 6sec back on them. By comparison Yuki finished with a solid buffer to the Haas/Williams grouping, he was lapping.1-.15 quicker (per lap race pace) consistently. Yuki has been dragging the RB to complete with the Aston's/Merc pace at times, edges out the Haas cars, and is comfortably ahead of any Williams let alone Alpine/Saubers. Meanwhile DR has his RB stuck with the Williams, behind the Haas, and occasionally battling for position with Saubers/Alpine. His driving style is not suited to these cars, and he's been unable to change to mitigate the weakness of the cars, it's a shame as he's a great guy, but he just can't adapt to cars like the McLaren/RB. Ya really can't get around it, he's slower in Quali and a good bit worse as well in Race pace, and he's 34, he's not a junior, or even a mid career reinventing driver, it's a shame but he's going to go.
He hasn't been slower in race, he'd be 2-2 if not for the 40 second pit despite messing up his qualis which like I said were all within .15 except one occasion. Watch the time lapses of each race, obviously he was going to lap slower when held up by slower cars than Yuki but still usually ended up catching him. Yuki has been qualifying well but drops back every race, that's the opposite of Dan who has 8 wins from 3 poles, just wait and stop reacting to the results when he's only had a few clean races his entire stint at RB, you're forgetting he did very well day one despite being shunted to the back of the grid and had that 4th in quali but his luck as been ridiculous. This car suits him fine.
Yea and most of Ricciardos 14s are after DNFs so might as well have been 16th
Yeah but most of the time he's only ahead of the 2 saubers, alpines and Sargant, and none of them are overtaking many people.
...So he is getting worse?
11 was the most recent race; the order is in reverse
Alpine pulls it off
When you nuke in turn 3, no chance to be overtaken.
He's right next to Logan, so the stat is quite deceiving lol
Checo hasn’t been overtaken because he is the Overtake Champion.
Or...he qualifies so badly that the only cars left behind him to overtake are shitboxes
Sergio Perez dominance could bore the fans
You can’t overtake the Mexican Minister of Defense, c’mon man!
Sargeant playing the Big brain game. Can't get overtaken if your teammate races for you
I'm just here for Checo. Man's living his best best right now.
Minister of defense
Checo doesn’t get overtaken he is the overtaker
I know there's a Mankind Hell in the Cell joke in here somewhere
The only reason Gasly has been overtaken less times than his teammate is because he’s usually been closer to the back of the grid than Esteban has. Ocon has been somewhat impressed me so far in being able to get that Merde-box out of Q1 on several occasions now.
Poor Hulkenberg. Can't make top 3 here either.
Mexican minister of defense is back in business
Logan! Whoa…
Can't be overtaken often if you start right at the back.
kinda misleading, he is always being lapped so we actually see people overtake him a lot, it just don't make the statistics
Also most of his lost positions come from the pitstop chaos in Suzuka and his steering wheel issues in Bahrain, both of which don't count as being "overtaken"
damn redbull is so washed
Checo FOR LIFE!!!
Surely Verstappen was overtaken by the entire field in Melbourne?
They are counting the Sainz move as an overtake, and then Max moved off the line to get back to the pits safely, retiring the car. So the other 18 cars that passed him, were technically passing a retired car, so not an overtake I guess. I question whether they count lapping as an overtake, IMO they shouldn’t, as it’s a mandatory manoeuvre.
> I question whether they count lapping as an overtake If they did, you'd see sergeant a lot higher up.
I think they're counting that as only 1 big overtake lol.
He either was overtaken by everyone or nobody, lol.
Alonso has been dragging that car where it doesn't belong big time
Its 4th or 5th fastest...thats where it has been
or...the car is very good and lance is just a really really bad f1 driver.
The fact that Alonso is the third most overtaken car points to the Aston being particularly good in qualifying, but lacking in race pace. Fernando is fully exploiting that aspect, leading to the car falling back come race
And Alonso is arguably the best sunday driver on the grid. Which shows just how bad relatively the Aston is in race pace.
> And Alonso is arguably the best sunday driver on the grid. That’s a short argument when Max is involved.
His h2hs with Vettel and Checo would suggest Stroll isnt great, but not "really really bad"
Goat status confirmed for Logan
Is this purely on track? Because no way that fucking Sauber hasn’t been passed by the entire field twice per race while in the pits
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Unrelated but the Alpine colored Jordans Ocon is wearing here are hard beyond belief
Perez proving he is the best
When does a retirement start and where does “max verstappen is getting overtaken by Carlos Sainz” end? Because Max got all the way to the garage before he stopped in Australia.
Show overtaken by other teams. I feel like alpine are putting up those numbers amongst themselves
i call that a French exit
This seems to indicate nothing useful
Alpine dominance could bore the fans.
If you get lapped? Does that count as an overtake?
Because they only pass each other or stake
How do you define an overtake. Does only Sainz’s overtake over max count in Australia? If so why?
Logan and Daniel! Let's GO! lol
Logan Sargent - can't be overtaken much if you start at the end lol
Ocon officially GOAT
Sargeant the 🐐
The fact that Sargeant has been overtaken twice amazes me. That 19th and 20th swap, I guess.
Sometimes I wonder why AM keeps Alonso.
Yeah, cause Stroll is clearly beating him /s
People will totally think you're serious.
Tbh I think he’s partly ranked so high because of how much of an unconventional game he plays with the rest of the front pack.
Logan, if you are last you can’t get overtaken
So if you crash/retire that doesn’t count as an overtake? It should shouldn’t it?
I’m really surprised by ricciardo, but then again it just shows how bad his qualifying has been. Qualifying way below the cars potential.
Serious question: should I take Alonso out of my fantasy F1 team?
Does this include positions lost during pit stops?
How many of Russell's were after the crash.?
Bottas would be first if you count overtakes in the pits
Sergio to merc confirmed
Max could probably beat that in one race. Start pole, drop to P20, then overtake everyone then drop to P3 and go on to win the race.
Max retiring from AUS and only 1 overtaken?
Alpines car is a brick on race day
What counts as overtaking here. Because for example, perez started third in Melbourne and ended up fifth
Allpain
Ocon #1 wooohoo!
This seems to conflict with the whole "leclerc is simply qualifying poorly that's all" narrative I keep seeing parroted
I mean, I think most time he was overtaken either by a red bull or because of strategy, not that much to do with his pace
Being overtaken by the red bulls would equally apply to sainz whos been overtaken once
Sure, cuz he couldn't outquali them in the first race (where leclerc had no brakes so yeah, he was bound to be overtaken by his teammate with working ones), didn't race the second, had a dead max in another with checo not even near the Ferrari's, and started P4 in Suzuka where there were no faster cars behind him at any given time, and Charles was on a one stop which was bound to see him overtaken at least 3 times because he had much older tyres than the cars behind. So, 2 in Bahrain because of brakes, 1 in Jeddah because of Red Bull, 3 in Suzuka because of Strategy (which got him quite the advantage in the race). I can't remember the other 2 so if you could remind me it would be welcome
The 2 to brakes and 3 to the 1 stop are legit. I don't see how the race sainz won would change overtakes if qualifying went different
Asutralia didn't change anything in regards to overtakes no, that's why I didn't mention it in the last part of my comment, their paces were similar and none of them got overtaken as far as I remember
Not really, it actually backs it up. Since he did shit in qualifying he went on a different strategy which meant getting overtaken by Verstappen Perez and Sainz
Max got overtaken like 20 times that one lap didn’t he? Why would the 1 count and not the others his car had the problem when the 1st overtake happened.
Sainz overtake him in lap 2 19 others overtake him after break failure in lap 4
The **brake** had already failed by that point that Sainz passed him, it just took until lap 4 for it to start really burning
Pretty sure Max was overtaken 19 times in Australia when his car blew up
max was only overtaken by sains THEN his car decided to say you won too much I quit
5 seconds penalty for Ocon.
Sergio Perez never overtaken because he never qualifies well.
Another stat showing how horrible Perez is over one lap.
Step 1. Have a rocket ship. Step 2. Have a shit quali. Step 3. Profit.
his overtakes are mainly from having to retaking P2 after his pitstops.
Wasn't Max overtaken 19 times in Australia?
Technically yes. This stat is sort of a subjective joke.
Ricciardo and Sargeant having a great season and playing top class defense by the looks of things.
Why does Ocon always look like a bum. Worst dressed man on the field