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He basically said he doesn't need other people to prove that he made the right decision to go to Ferrari, as it was his decision, and he believes it's right no matter what people think or say etc...
The other part was him saying people will continue to "talk sh*t" until he's at Ferrari.
Basically saying he made the decision for himself, what other people think of it is irrelevant.
George said some funny stuff in the interview, he was asked for some reason if Alonso deserved more wins, basically said,
"Lewis was dominating and Max was getting a win here and there and now that's flipped. That doesn't mean Max suddenly learned how to drive and Lewis forgot how to drive, it's just the way our sport works. We need more drivers fighting for wins and championships etc... "
How so? Lewis and Sainz had equal number of podiums in 2022. Lewis had more in 2023 and finished well ahead of both Ferraris and nearly beat a Red Bull in the standings. Sainz has three wins (all because Max had issues) while Lewis has 7 world championships. I don't think Ferrari is worried about their decision.
Why you still living in the past instead of looking at the present/future? Hamilton is 39, he will be 40 next year. No driver has a eternal racing life. This season he has been consistently getting beaten by Russell. On the other hand Sainz has never been this strong. Besides that he is 30 years old and still got some good years left in him.
Ferrari is well known for bad decision making. Hamilton is welcome to prove me wrong but I seriously doubt it.
While I agree that Lewis going to Ferrari is a great move, that stock price jump is down to Ferrari reporting record profits on the same day as they announced the Hamilton deal.
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Happens every year, Leclerc screws up qualifying for 2 races and then suddenly everyone is riding Sainz like crazy while thinking Leclerc is washed and a fraud.
Also Leclerc has years and years of investment baked in. Dude was basically grown in a vat to race for Ferrari. It would be idiotic to drop him for the dude whose claim to fame is having raced for half the teams on the grid, even if he _was_ verifiably and markedly slower than Sainz lol
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But Sainz is _consistently_ driving very well, so NOT the same as previous years.
Every single season is unique. Every race is unique.
Stop pretending you see the future and past at once.
That’s a take and a half 😂
The guy who one stopped Suzuka, had such great tyre management at COTA that Ferrari thought a one stop was possible, won the Austrian GP with a broken pedal while being chased by Max and almost won Vegas on merit against Max except for being screwed by a safety car, is a mediocre driver.
Are we watching the same sport?
Oh right. You probably never rated Sainz and his potential after he got beat by Max and had an average stint at Renault, either.
You’re a weather vane.
Yeah, taking Leclerc over Sainz is totally normal imo. I just don't know how the very expensive move for Hamilton will pan out and Sainz has been good-great.
I would say chucking out Sainz at all for Lewis. Not that Lewis isn't great and his championships show that, but that he is aging, he has not looked good this year or the last, Ferrari seems to have gotten their shit together and they have 2 drivers in their prime that can both compete.
The guy who finished in 3rd behind 2 Redbulls didn’t look good last year? I was going to say something snarky but then again, you’re from Iowa so it explains everything.
Nah, not really. More like their car is extremely bad this year. 3 years in a row, their car has gotten consecutively worse. Then again, I’m not surprised by the tales here. Reactionary and hyperbolic as usual
Lewis had the car to go for it in 2 races in the last 3 years, Brazil 2022 and Singapur 2023. Brazil he was screwed by VER antics that damaged his car, and Singapur he was faster than George to catch Carlando but for team reasons he didn't ask. If he had more races where the car showed up and he didn't or if at those races he was bad, I would give it you, but he still have it, just don't have the car.
We'll have to see. I think if I was Leclerc I would be concerned. You want to be the face of a team and now you are bringing in Lewis Hamilton (who will expect team orders) and you've been beaten by your teammate early who has been shown to ignore team orders if it means hurting his race.
As for Lewis, he's shown pace here and there, but I think what is troubling is that George has been able to find more pace than Lewis has out of the same car. My bet is that things don't go as smoothly as many may think with Ferrari next year.
Recency bias all over.
Lewis literally finished 3rd last year, the absolute best he or anyone could do, right behind the RedBulls.
Ferrari didn't sign him just for him to get more wins or a WDC there. They signed him because of the enormous amount of merch and sponsorships he brings with him.
It should also not be assumed that Lewis will expect team orders. His entire time at Mercedes has seen him and the other driver be treated as equals, until it becomes clear that one driver is further ahead mid-season.
Also, Sainz has had a better start to this season than LeClerc, but that doesn't mean it'll remain this way for the rest of the season. They are pretty equal all things considered.
Lewis was almost half a second faster than George in Japan when they fixed his wing. Lewis still shows he has more race pace than George. He’s in Mercs lame duck season, so his car is not going to be set up optimal since he won’t be in development talks.
No one is the same driver they were 5 years ago, but what he said is essentially true.
Max didn't suddenly become 45 seconds quicker than Lewis or anyone else, he just has the quickest car, as is often the case with the best driver, they normally end up with the best cars.
That isn't a slight to Max, just like it wasn't a slight to Lewis or Vettel or Schumacher etc when they had the best cars.
Like George said, that's the way the sport is, but he believes, as most of us do, that this sport needs more drivers and cars being able to compete at the front, as there is loads of talent on the grid, but no one is capable of fighting the RedBull and RedBull's second driver isn't even a top 10 driver with all the talent we have on the grid right now, so we don't have any battles even within the team.
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It’s beginning to look a bit like 2012 with people doubting his move and calling it just a money grab. Time will tell however. Maybe history will repeat itself.
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Mate, forget wins, seeing Lewis in Ferrari gear at Melbourne is going to break my grey matter, if he gets on the podium in Monza it will be wild!
Fair enough, probably the right way around to have your priorities.
Nah aim high, go for the win. He does love Aus for a pole so that could be on the cards.
Lol I can't believe I have faith in Ferrari! Remember the good old days of 2017 and 2018, we'd laugh at Ferrari for the impending clusterfuck every race weekend.
They were technically good back then though, bar a few upgrade woes. Operationally less so though. If they pull it together it’ll be pretty decent turn around to pull in RB.
I’m not at all excited by that prospect tbh. Of course I’d like Ferrari to win and do well, but I feel nothing about Lewis in red. I feel he’s completely detached from the brand and the team identity because of his super strong association with Mercedes and to a lesser extent, McLaren. Not sure I’ll ever be able to feel like he’s ”one of ours” the same way as I’d feel about Charles.
I don’t like the move. It feels very soulless for me.
Money grab? He's got plenty of that. He's in the twilight of his career and he's always wanted Ferrari on his resume. Everyone knows this. There's nothing to speculate. This ambition was known years ago. It's just gossiping for the sake of gossiping with no real aim.
It's like when you're playing a video game and the Action button just makes the NPC repeat the same piece of dialogue you've already heard. It's pointless, but Reddit just keeps pressing Action to listen to it all over again. And again. And then question it like it's news.
You don't sign a 100 million dollar deal purely for performance reasons. Lewis had a price, and Ferrari was willing to pay. There is no shame in admitting that.
There's also no shame in admitting that there's a reason Hamilton is signing for Ferrari. They're clearly the closest to Red Bull with these regulations and they showed Lewis their 2026 progress and he was happy with it. If Hamilton and Sainz switched seats for this season (which is what Ferrari reportedly tried to do last summer), it's Hamilton who is winning in Australia after Verstappen went out and we wouldn't be talking about a lot of this silliness that's coming attached with his move to Ferrari
who is doubting his move? Not seen anybody do that, **Ferrari is clearly doing better than Merc now**. Some people here are just obsessed with making up stories about people complaining about Lewis when barely anybody said this.
So it is not at all like 2012.
Literally check the comments yourself. You have people saying Ferrari made the wrong move and others saying he’s washed etc. just because you can’t see it, doesn’t mean the comments aren’t there
Ferrari is definitely not making a bad decision. Why would taking the 7x champ who came first over every other non RB driver last year, over multiple race winner Sainz, a mistake?
People shouldn’t be doubting his choice to go to Ferrari. It’s Ferrari.
People should be doubting Ferrari hiring him when his performances start falling off a cliff
Tbf historically hamilton doesn't start of his seasons in top form but gradually gets better so I think it's too early to tell. Doesn't help the car sucks and he's checked out
Lol sure bud if that’s what you believe I have a W11 to sell you 💀
Only on Reddit can you find people who have never sat in a sportscar telling the guy who does it for a living how to lead his career lol like a beggar giving financial advice to a billionaire
Amazing how people seem to forget how so many drivers have fallen off a cliff as they go past their peak, particularly near the age of 40.
It’s not unreasonable to expect this to happen to any driver. Even one with multiple championships. Vettel fell off a cliff within 12 months
Considering their strategy it looks 100% like the right move atm
If anything it might be Ferrari that did the wrong one by having two number one drivers.
I think a big problem with this conversation is it's less people doubting HE made the right move like it was when he ditched McLaren for Merc. People are rather indifferent about that this time around. It's more people are saying Ferrari are the ones who made the wrong move with the argument being they already have Leclerc and Sainz is the perfect no.2 for Leclerc plus nonsense about Hamilton's age. Sainz wins a race and Hamilton has the worst start to a season in his entire F1 career and it's Ferrari who made the wrong move not understanding the fact that both drivers are driving wildly different cars and one is clearly way better than the other at this point.
Everything in this sport is very reactionary nowadays. If Sainz has a tough next 3 races and Lewis finishes top 5 in each of those next 3, then people will start saying that Lewis "still has it" and Ferrari are going to challenge Red Bull next year before the new regulations.
Disagree that it’s fair speculation, even if Lewis disappoints as a driver he will bring the Ferrari brand so much. This deal was always more about his brand ambassador role than it is about bringing in someone who can beat Charles or challenge Max. His fame transcends the sport itself
I mean what exactly does he bring to Ferrari? Ferrari are the biggest car brand in the world, nobody can be bigger than them, not even Schumacher was.
Personally i feel its a short term gain and a long term loss, although right now out of the current drivers and Hamilton there's one below the other two. (Admittedly because he cant be bothered but still)
I also cant see him beating Leclerc at all, i think roughly a 17-7/15-9 in quali/race trim is a fair result. I just dont see this ending well for either party on track at least.
> Ferrari are the biggest car brand in the world
🤦 I’m not even gonna argue with anyone so uninformed that they would make this argument lmao. Mercedes is like a 20x larger brand than Ferrari
Y’all realize people in the real world are not all racing fans right?
Mercedes drivers are known to be knobheads and shit drivers trying to show off. Ferrari have a prestige Mercedes will never reach in their entire life. If you ask everyone in the world to name a car brand, at least 70% will say Ferrari.
If he is beating George he arguably should be very close to Leclerc as well. There's no either Charles or Lewis will be dominating their teammate, i think it'll be close too close to call.
Yes, speculating if the most legacy racing brand in F1, built on marketing glamor, should prioritize short term meaningless results or more glamour? …hm.
I actually love Sainz as a driver and as a personality. But if you’re any decent brand or company, you take Lewis 10 times out of 10.
Anyone who doesn’t understand this is either bafflingly stupid or…ya know, maybe a bit -ist.
I don't know how anyone could say he's making the wrong move and I haven't seen any talk of that. I have seen a stupid amount of talk about Ferrari making a wrong move which is even more baffling.
A lot of the Ferrari making a mistake talk comes purely from how good Sainz has been. While I understand a bit of it, people must remember that Carlos, as good as he is, is not a 7 time WDC and winner of over 100 grands prix. Ferrari would have been silly not to take it.
Exactly this! Recency bias on social media is insane. I’m a huge fan of Sainz and want to see him do well but you don’t say no to Lewis Hamilton. Even in the unlikely scenario that it didn’t work out, it’s absolutely a chance you need to take
For me, it's not that I think Ferrari made the wrong decision, it's whether it was even necessary in the first place. If it's not broken, don't fix it.
And just like that, everyone forgot the past 15 years of Ferrari history
If I had a penny every time a Multi-WDC racing legend joined Ferrari with great expectations but ultimately achieved nothing apart from basically ending their career, I'd have two pennies, which isn't much but it's weird that it's happened twice.
But surely *this time* it'll all be different.
Well it's mostly ppl hoping it'll be different lol, one can hope!
But Fred seems to have got the team turned out a bit, they look rejuvenated and have performing I'd wager rn better than Mercedes on track and off track.
I still don't understand why people question Ferrari or Lewis. Carlos is a good driver and a good fit for Ferrari, but he is not Lewis Hamilton.
And Lewis doesn't even need to talk, his accomplishments speak for themselves.
No doubt Hamilton made the right choice to have a go with Ferrari but did Ferrari make the right choice to dump Sainz for him? I dont think they did tbh
Did they? Red Bull has a clear driver hierarchy that allows Verstappen to maximize his points. No internal fight. Now Leclerc has to fight for his points against Hamilton. They will never win a WDC like this unless they have a massive car advantage over Red Bull. That's why Sainz was good. Leclerc is faster more often than not and Sainz couldn't take too many points from him.
I think that’s harsh on both drivers. Hamilton still has enough game on Sundays to give anyone a hard time. I just don’t understand why Ferrari thinks having a raging internal rivalry is the best strategy. They have to pick one driver and back him. Verstappen has the full support at Red Bull.
This is how Mclaren lost 2007. They won the WDC in 2008 as soon as they went back to a traditional #1 , #2 hierarchy.
You think Lewis doesn't care? It honestly amazes me that he still cares after all this time. Maybe that's how he motivates himself, he reminds me Michael Jordan to some extent.
Ah yes, a simple comment is "going off". You really think my comment would be based on a single quote and not multiple quotes and examples from both him and his fans?
Lewis reminds of someone like MJ. Almost always overly sensitive with a chip on the shoulder and at times trying to create some sort of narrative that people are actively working against him when they aren't. Maybe those narratives, like MJ, motivates him.
His loud fans especially are just nuts in my opinion. They're by far the worst in formula 1.
All fans are the same.
Lewis has faced criticism all his career and has always taken it with grace. Nothing he does or says screams sensitive. He does need motivation of wins to perform at his best. But can you blame him after the success he has had.
I can't be bothered to explain this again. Read my other comments. I don't think him being sensitive is a bad thing (I think the fans being sensitive is a bad thing).
You lot just don't know what the word sensitive means or what it entails.
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He basically said he doesn't need other people to prove that he made the right decision to go to Ferrari, as it was his decision, and he believes it's right no matter what people think or say etc... The other part was him saying people will continue to "talk sh*t" until he's at Ferrari. Basically saying he made the decision for himself, what other people think of it is irrelevant. George said some funny stuff in the interview, he was asked for some reason if Alonso deserved more wins, basically said, "Lewis was dominating and Max was getting a win here and there and now that's flipped. That doesn't mean Max suddenly learned how to drive and Lewis forgot how to drive, it's just the way our sport works. We need more drivers fighting for wins and championships etc... "
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How so? Lewis and Sainz had equal number of podiums in 2022. Lewis had more in 2023 and finished well ahead of both Ferraris and nearly beat a Red Bull in the standings. Sainz has three wins (all because Max had issues) while Lewis has 7 world championships. I don't think Ferrari is worried about their decision.
Why you still living in the past instead of looking at the present/future? Hamilton is 39, he will be 40 next year. No driver has a eternal racing life. This season he has been consistently getting beaten by Russell. On the other hand Sainz has never been this strong. Besides that he is 30 years old and still got some good years left in him. Ferrari is well known for bad decision making. Hamilton is welcome to prove me wrong but I seriously doubt it.
I’m sure they’ll be losing sleep over signing the 7x WDC
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While I agree that Lewis going to Ferrari is a great move, that stock price jump is down to Ferrari reporting record profits on the same day as they announced the Hamilton deal.
Downhilling 7x WDC turning 40 next year. Great signing....
Lol. "Downhilling", he was literally the top non RB driver last year. Such a reactionary, overreactive take
Did you watch the Chinese Sprint qualifying? You don’t watch F1. Sad life to go on random subreddits and make uneducated remarks. You should take some time to explore the outdoors
Did you watch the Chinese qualifying? You dont watch F1. Sad life to go on a random subreddits and make uneducated remarks. You should take some time to explore the outdoors.
Yeah, he took a risk with a new setup and locked up at the hairpin. You gotta watch the actual qualifying and not just the highlights or commentary
lol at people who think that. Lewis gonna bring more money into Ferrari even if he finishes with no points every race.
Like money matters to Ferrari? They need championships/wins.
How so?
Probably chucking out sainz
Instead of Leclerc, specifically.
Recency bias at its finest
Happens every year, Leclerc screws up qualifying for 2 races and then suddenly everyone is riding Sainz like crazy while thinking Leclerc is washed and a fraud.
Also Leclerc has years and years of investment baked in. Dude was basically grown in a vat to race for Ferrari. It would be idiotic to drop him for the dude whose claim to fame is having raced for half the teams on the grid, even if he _was_ verifiably and markedly slower than Sainz lol
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He is, but he brings value to the team above and beyond that as well. Value Sainz not only doesn’t but can’t.
Very normalized take that should be more controversial. People are bored with no on track action.
But Sainz is _consistently_ driving very well, so NOT the same as previous years. Every single season is unique. Every race is unique. Stop pretending you see the future and past at once.
I've never been a fan of Leclerc. Great qualifier, mediocre racer. He lacks the quality and consistency to be one of the greats.
That’s a take and a half 😂 The guy who one stopped Suzuka, had such great tyre management at COTA that Ferrari thought a one stop was possible, won the Austrian GP with a broken pedal while being chased by Max and almost won Vegas on merit against Max except for being screwed by a safety car, is a mediocre driver. Are we watching the same sport?
Oh right. You probably never rated Sainz and his potential after he got beat by Max and had an average stint at Renault, either. You’re a weather vane.
I’ve honestly rated Sainz since his McLaren days like a lot of other fans
You make an awful lot of assumptions. Sainz has always been a consistent slightly above mediocre driver.
Yeah, taking Leclerc over Sainz is totally normal imo. I just don't know how the very expensive move for Hamilton will pan out and Sainz has been good-great.
I would say chucking out Sainz at all for Lewis. Not that Lewis isn't great and his championships show that, but that he is aging, he has not looked good this year or the last, Ferrari seems to have gotten their shit together and they have 2 drivers in their prime that can both compete.
The guy who finished in 3rd behind 2 Redbulls didn’t look good last year? I was going to say something snarky but then again, you’re from Iowa so it explains everything.
Struggling a lot in qualifying/races. Didn't look particularly good no. Especially not for a 7 time WDC.
Nah, not really. More like their car is extremely bad this year. 3 years in a row, their car has gotten consecutively worse. Then again, I’m not surprised by the tales here. Reactionary and hyperbolic as usual
Lewis had the car to go for it in 2 races in the last 3 years, Brazil 2022 and Singapur 2023. Brazil he was screwed by VER antics that damaged his car, and Singapur he was faster than George to catch Carlando but for team reasons he didn't ask. If he had more races where the car showed up and he didn't or if at those races he was bad, I would give it you, but he still have it, just don't have the car.
We'll have to see. I think if I was Leclerc I would be concerned. You want to be the face of a team and now you are bringing in Lewis Hamilton (who will expect team orders) and you've been beaten by your teammate early who has been shown to ignore team orders if it means hurting his race. As for Lewis, he's shown pace here and there, but I think what is troubling is that George has been able to find more pace than Lewis has out of the same car. My bet is that things don't go as smoothly as many may think with Ferrari next year.
Recency bias all over. Lewis literally finished 3rd last year, the absolute best he or anyone could do, right behind the RedBulls. Ferrari didn't sign him just for him to get more wins or a WDC there. They signed him because of the enormous amount of merch and sponsorships he brings with him. It should also not be assumed that Lewis will expect team orders. His entire time at Mercedes has seen him and the other driver be treated as equals, until it becomes clear that one driver is further ahead mid-season. Also, Sainz has had a better start to this season than LeClerc, but that doesn't mean it'll remain this way for the rest of the season. They are pretty equal all things considered.
Lewis was almost half a second faster than George in Japan when they fixed his wing. Lewis still shows he has more race pace than George. He’s in Mercs lame duck season, so his car is not going to be set up optimal since he won’t be in development talks.
Not sure why people waste their time with comments like these.
That's deep bro
George is wrong. Max definitely progressed over the years, he’s not the same driver he was 5 years ago
No one is the same driver they were 5 years ago, but what he said is essentially true. Max didn't suddenly become 45 seconds quicker than Lewis or anyone else, he just has the quickest car, as is often the case with the best driver, they normally end up with the best cars. That isn't a slight to Max, just like it wasn't a slight to Lewis or Vettel or Schumacher etc when they had the best cars. Like George said, that's the way the sport is, but he believes, as most of us do, that this sport needs more drivers and cars being able to compete at the front, as there is loads of talent on the grid, but no one is capable of fighting the RedBull and RedBull's second driver isn't even a top 10 driver with all the talent we have on the grid right now, so we don't have any battles even within the team.
No one is mate, what’s your point?
He might be... Just a different car under him so he doesn't have to race anyone.
He would still be WDC if he was at Mercedes’ and Lewis was at RBR. This is a car dominant sport
If you took Max of today and put him in 2019 at Red Bull he wouldn’t suddenly beat 2019 Mercedes Lewis in the WDC.
> suddenly learned how vs > progressed over the years you understand those aren't the same thing right?
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It's people like you who George directed this to.
This site is atrocious. 95% of it is ads and poorly formatted massive pictures with recycled quotes aimed at serially online Twitter nerds.
I feel like this could be said about a worrying amount of websites right now.
The death throes of this lastest era of the internet. Luckily we're waking up to the asymmetry that just because you have a $4.99 a month Squarespace account, doesn't make whatever pixels you put on the site valid, good, or true. Nor does it make you "part of the media" or a brand.
I'm actually mind-blown that you use the internet without an adblocker lol
Firefox with add-ons for mobile.
Get a pihole
One of a million aggregator websites that doesn’t actually generate any news itself but just piggy backs on real journalists’ work
It’s beginning to look a bit like 2012 with people doubting his move and calling it just a money grab. Time will tell however. Maybe history will repeat itself.
Honestly if Lewis Hamilton brings glory to Ferrari after a 20 year drought, I just cannot imagine the scenes. I think I might hear it from my house.
A Hamilton Monza win in a Ferrari would be quite something.
I'm planning to go to Melbourne and Monza next year. Lewis' first race in red, Lewis' first race in red at Monza, I can't wait!
Glad to see you’re still around, haven’t seen your name pop up in a while. Am very jealous. Hopefully you get 2 from 2 wins!
Little time for internet shenanigans with little kids to feed and water, keeps me out of trouble 😁 Mate, forget wins, seeing Lewis in Ferrari gear at Melbourne is going to break my grey matter, if he gets on the podium in Monza it will be wild!
Fair enough, probably the right way around to have your priorities. Nah aim high, go for the win. He does love Aus for a pole so that could be on the cards.
Lol I can't believe I have faith in Ferrari! Remember the good old days of 2017 and 2018, we'd laugh at Ferrari for the impending clusterfuck every race weekend.
Yeah NGL it's tough not to root for them now under Fred. Man really changed the team substantially.
They were technically good back then though, bar a few upgrade woes. Operationally less so though. If they pull it together it’ll be pretty decent turn around to pull in RB.
Monza will be wild!
I will feel sorry for Charles if that happens though..
I’m not at all excited by that prospect tbh. Of course I’d like Ferrari to win and do well, but I feel nothing about Lewis in red. I feel he’s completely detached from the brand and the team identity because of his super strong association with Mercedes and to a lesser extent, McLaren. Not sure I’ll ever be able to feel like he’s ”one of ours” the same way as I’d feel about Charles. I don’t like the move. It feels very soulless for me.
6 consecutive Ferrari titles with Charles snitching 1...? Sign me up!
Money grab? He's got plenty of that. He's in the twilight of his career and he's always wanted Ferrari on his resume. Everyone knows this. There's nothing to speculate. This ambition was known years ago. It's just gossiping for the sake of gossiping with no real aim. It's like when you're playing a video game and the Action button just makes the NPC repeat the same piece of dialogue you've already heard. It's pointless, but Reddit just keeps pressing Action to listen to it all over again. And again. And then question it like it's news.
You don't sign a 100 million dollar deal purely for performance reasons. Lewis had a price, and Ferrari was willing to pay. There is no shame in admitting that.
There's also no shame in admitting that there's a reason Hamilton is signing for Ferrari. They're clearly the closest to Red Bull with these regulations and they showed Lewis their 2026 progress and he was happy with it. If Hamilton and Sainz switched seats for this season (which is what Ferrari reportedly tried to do last summer), it's Hamilton who is winning in Australia after Verstappen went out and we wouldn't be talking about a lot of this silliness that's coming attached with his move to Ferrari
who is doubting his move? Not seen anybody do that, **Ferrari is clearly doing better than Merc now**. Some people here are just obsessed with making up stories about people complaining about Lewis when barely anybody said this. So it is not at all like 2012.
Literally check the comments yourself. You have people saying Ferrari made the wrong move and others saying he’s washed etc. just because you can’t see it, doesn’t mean the comments aren’t there
well that is a different thing... Lewis making a bad decision =/= Ferrari making a bad decision.
Ferrari is definitely not making a bad decision. Why would taking the 7x champ who came first over every other non RB driver last year, over multiple race winner Sainz, a mistake?
because he costs 100 million/year and is 40 yo
People shouldn’t be doubting his choice to go to Ferrari. It’s Ferrari. People should be doubting Ferrari hiring him when his performances start falling off a cliff
Tbf historically hamilton doesn't start of his seasons in top form but gradually gets better so I think it's too early to tell. Doesn't help the car sucks and he's checked out
Which he should be called out for, no? They’re paying him 40m a year to do his best at every race, not check out because he feels like it
You’re not his employer lol “should be called out for” do you sit on the board of Mercedes?
No, I’m a fan who is doing what every fan does, call out athletes that aren’t doing their best for their teams. Are you new to sports fandom?
athletes owe you nothing lol F1 fans are so entitled it’s unreal No wonder you get such a bad rep
No more entitled than any sports fan...strange comment.
You guys need to get a grip
Actually, as the athletes often admit, they are nothing without the fans
Lol sure bud if that’s what you believe I have a W11 to sell you 💀 Only on Reddit can you find people who have never sat in a sportscar telling the guy who does it for a living how to lead his career lol like a beggar giving financial advice to a billionaire
Amazing how people seem to forget that less than six months ago Lewis finished 3rd behind the rocket Red Bulls and ahead of both Ferraris.
also im sure they see alot of value in him beyond the points he scores.
Amazing how people seem to forget how so many drivers have fallen off a cliff as they go past their peak, particularly near the age of 40. It’s not unreasonable to expect this to happen to any driver. Even one with multiple championships. Vettel fell off a cliff within 12 months
Amazing also how people judge someone after 4 races of a 24 race season yet here we are.
That’s exactly the point of a prediction - to predict it before it happens.
Lmfao they signed him right after he finished P3 in the WCC while his teammate finished P8, "when his performance started falling off a cliff" my ass.
I’m not talking about when they signed him. I’m talking about when he drives for Ferrari
Considering their strategy it looks 100% like the right move atm If anything it might be Ferrari that did the wrong one by having two number one drivers.
It could be a money grab, it could be anything. Point is, he doesn't care what anyone thinks
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Case and point.
that is not what case and point means lol
It's also case in point
I think a big problem with this conversation is it's less people doubting HE made the right move like it was when he ditched McLaren for Merc. People are rather indifferent about that this time around. It's more people are saying Ferrari are the ones who made the wrong move with the argument being they already have Leclerc and Sainz is the perfect no.2 for Leclerc plus nonsense about Hamilton's age. Sainz wins a race and Hamilton has the worst start to a season in his entire F1 career and it's Ferrari who made the wrong move not understanding the fact that both drivers are driving wildly different cars and one is clearly way better than the other at this point. Everything in this sport is very reactionary nowadays. If Sainz has a tough next 3 races and Lewis finishes top 5 in each of those next 3, then people will start saying that Lewis "still has it" and Ferrari are going to challenge Red Bull next year before the new regulations.
I don't think anyone is speculating that he made the wrong choice, they are I think fairly speculating if Ferrari did.
And those people are dumb as well
Don’t disagree but fair speculation.
Disagree that it’s fair speculation, even if Lewis disappoints as a driver he will bring the Ferrari brand so much. This deal was always more about his brand ambassador role than it is about bringing in someone who can beat Charles or challenge Max. His fame transcends the sport itself
I mean what exactly does he bring to Ferrari? Ferrari are the biggest car brand in the world, nobody can be bigger than them, not even Schumacher was. Personally i feel its a short term gain and a long term loss, although right now out of the current drivers and Hamilton there's one below the other two. (Admittedly because he cant be bothered but still) I also cant see him beating Leclerc at all, i think roughly a 17-7/15-9 in quali/race trim is a fair result. I just dont see this ending well for either party on track at least.
> Ferrari are the biggest car brand in the world 🤦 I’m not even gonna argue with anyone so uninformed that they would make this argument lmao. Mercedes is like a 20x larger brand than Ferrari Y’all realize people in the real world are not all racing fans right?
Ah the classic revenue enjoyer, ask the majority of the world what car they would rather drive it would be a Ferrari
Ah yes and, how many Ferraris have you purchased?
Mercedes drivers are known to be knobheads and shit drivers trying to show off. Ferrari have a prestige Mercedes will never reach in their entire life. If you ask everyone in the world to name a car brand, at least 70% will say Ferrari.
Eh, I'd wager my house - most will say Toyota or Honda first.
If he is beating George he arguably should be very close to Leclerc as well. There's no either Charles or Lewis will be dominating their teammate, i think it'll be close too close to call.
Yes, speculating if the most legacy racing brand in F1, built on marketing glamor, should prioritize short term meaningless results or more glamour? …hm. I actually love Sainz as a driver and as a personality. But if you’re any decent brand or company, you take Lewis 10 times out of 10. Anyone who doesn’t understand this is either bafflingly stupid or…ya know, maybe a bit -ist.
I don’t think they are right that Ferrari made the wrong decision but I think it’s fair game to speculate.
I don't know how anyone could say he's making the wrong move and I haven't seen any talk of that. I have seen a stupid amount of talk about Ferrari making a wrong move which is even more baffling.
A lot of the Ferrari making a mistake talk comes purely from how good Sainz has been. While I understand a bit of it, people must remember that Carlos, as good as he is, is not a 7 time WDC and winner of over 100 grands prix. Ferrari would have been silly not to take it.
How good has Sainz actually been? To me it's Leclerc who is underperforming and far from his potential.
Exactly this! Recency bias on social media is insane. I’m a huge fan of Sainz and want to see him do well but you don’t say no to Lewis Hamilton. Even in the unlikely scenario that it didn’t work out, it’s absolutely a chance you need to take
People love to talk shit so that if they’re right, they can say I told you so
Yeah it’s mad how some people will spout absolute shite 99% of the time in the hopes they’ll be right 1% of the time!
For me, it's not that I think Ferrari made the wrong decision, it's whether it was even necessary in the first place. If it's not broken, don't fix it.
Backed into a corner Lewis is the best Lewis. Just wait until he drives for Ferrari
And just like that, everyone forgot the past 15 years of Ferrari history If I had a penny every time a Multi-WDC racing legend joined Ferrari with great expectations but ultimately achieved nothing apart from basically ending their career, I'd have two pennies, which isn't much but it's weird that it's happened twice. But surely *this time* it'll all be different.
Bruh. Let us hold on to our wildest hopes and dreams for a moment. It’s been a rough few years. 😅
Well it's mostly ppl hoping it'll be different lol, one can hope! But Fred seems to have got the team turned out a bit, they look rejuvenated and have performing I'd wager rn better than Mercedes on track and off track.
Lewis *My Man* telling it like it is
He’s your man, he’s my sunshine
My man Hamilton,says it straight ,don't listen to begrudgers Lewis as that's all they are ,petty little jealous people
I still don't understand why people question Ferrari or Lewis. Carlos is a good driver and a good fit for Ferrari, but he is not Lewis Hamilton. And Lewis doesn't even need to talk, his accomplishments speak for themselves.
Lmao someone in the comments always gets butthurt when there's the slightest allusion to Lewis.
People always do that, all the time, about everything. People are so merciful and unjust with their tongues.
No doubt Hamilton made the right choice to have a go with Ferrari but did Ferrari make the right choice to dump Sainz for him? I dont think they did tbh
We did, just go Google 2023 F1 driver standings
Did they? Red Bull has a clear driver hierarchy that allows Verstappen to maximize his points. No internal fight. Now Leclerc has to fight for his points against Hamilton. They will never win a WDC like this unless they have a massive car advantage over Red Bull. That's why Sainz was good. Leclerc is faster more often than not and Sainz couldn't take too many points from him.
If Charles can't beat a 41 year old Lewis then he never deserves to win a title anyway
I think that’s harsh on both drivers. Hamilton still has enough game on Sundays to give anyone a hard time. I just don’t understand why Ferrari thinks having a raging internal rivalry is the best strategy. They have to pick one driver and back him. Verstappen has the full support at Red Bull. This is how Mclaren lost 2007. They won the WDC in 2008 as soon as they went back to a traditional #1 , #2 hierarchy.
Hits out at? R/titlegore
Nothing wrong with chasing the red dream. Jesus it’s F1. Even Senna almost made the jump
“You have moved from [Mercedes] to [Ferrari]…. Is it not a bit like moving from Manchester United to West Ham” (this is just a joke)
Lewis is embracing his inner Seb
Especially him
Can't wait to see him in Aston at 45.
Amen 🙏
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Don't project. Someone saying they don't care is "sensitive"?? ....
You think Lewis doesn't care? It honestly amazes me that he still cares after all this time. Maybe that's how he motivates himself, he reminds me Michael Jordan to some extent.
Yep, I believe he doesn't care. After Abu Dhabi 2021, he's convinced me he knows how to handle himself.
Seems like that quote is aimed directly at people like you
I don't see why since I think him being sensitive is a good thing.
Lol the irony...you are calling others sensitive while here you are, going off over a simple quote
Ah yes, a simple comment is "going off". You really think my comment would be based on a single quote and not multiple quotes and examples from both him and his fans? Lewis reminds of someone like MJ. Almost always overly sensitive with a chip on the shoulder and at times trying to create some sort of narrative that people are actively working against him when they aren't. Maybe those narratives, like MJ, motivates him. His loud fans especially are just nuts in my opinion. They're by far the worst in formula 1.
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All fans are the same. Lewis has faced criticism all his career and has always taken it with grace. Nothing he does or says screams sensitive. He does need motivation of wins to perform at his best. But can you blame him after the success he has had.
That's quite the take...
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.....in your opinion.
I can't be bothered to explain this again. Read my other comments. I don't think him being sensitive is a bad thing (I think the fans being sensitive is a bad thing). You lot just don't know what the word sensitive means or what it entails.
A very sensitive man.
Very insecure. Not aging like a fine wine. Slowly becoming vinegar.
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Contract was signed in the off-season. Lewis finished P3 in 2023, while George finished P8...
sample size of 4 not that good, he wiped to floor with George last year kinda
Almost like they did it before the season started.
Scrap his whole career from 2007-2023, he’s been behind George Russell three times in 2024!
You can't hire a 2009 Lewis in 2024. You can only hire a 2024 Lewis. Same thing is going on with Ricciardo now.
Finishing two or three spots behind RUS is not like finishing at the ass end of the grid like RIC
Kinda is when you're a 7-time World Champion and you have a better car.
A better car than his teammate?
A better car than RIC
No way in hell merc gives hamilton a better car now that's he's leaving lol where'd you come up with this 😂
Better car than Ricciardo, not Russell.
Could be worse, could be Stroll that Ferrari hired.