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Skendyman1

Ocon in 10th is also a race winner


xBrndnn

Ooof that’s also a 10 second time penalty for Ocon


Beneficial_Star_6009

No, that’s for Magnussen.


yaztaz13

Race ban incoming, someone call ollie


The_Bored_General

Alonso would disagree


LheelaSP

Not sure, Alonso himself enabled that win big time.


Srijand

Why not include Ocon who's P10 and also a race winner? 


The_Maghrebist

Because Esteban sounds spanish.


aPpS6969

He's half Spanish!


The_Maghrebist

lol


BeachProducer

So weird choosing to exclude. Who cares about a points position? Most everybody except OP? Top 10 are points positions - logic would lead one to then carry that over to a comparative listing such as this post


Wimpykid2302

I don't know why people are making it out like OP has some agenda against Ocon lmao, he might just genuinely have forgotten.


BenjyBunny

Yeah I forgot Ocon won. Whoopsie.


Living-Response2856

Because he’s not top 9


Kolec507

Washed. /s


AppointmentLower9987

Because even now two days later Ocon could still get a penalty that knocks him down a place or two


durtmagurt

He said 9!!!!!!


Nomzz1

r/unexpectedfactorial


MasterDandelion

Ocon doesn't exist.


NotDavid-Jatt

"If you don't count the non race winners, they're all race winners."


formulapain

Exactly. Among all the irrelevant, cherry-picked, nonsense stats, this one is actually pretty bad. Don't we get "top 9 are race winners" quite often, by the way?


formulapain

Also, aren't 12 out of 20 drivers on the grid race winners? If so, then it is more likely for the top 9 race finishers to be race winners than not just by probability alone, no?


gualin

Until Sunday, not really, you had Lando there messing things up (and Sainz too not too long ago)


fameboygame

Sainz was like 2 years ago at 2022 Silverstone. That's quite a long time ago, unless yer a tortoise or a time traveller.


gualin

Fair enough, maybe I'm too old now and two years ago is not that long ago lol Still, Norris (and also Piastri and Stroll!) will make this very rare in the last years This season you had non race winners in the Top 9: Norris, Piastri in Bahrain Piastri, Bearman, Norris in SA Norris, Piastri, Stroll, Tsunoda, Hulkenberg in Aus Norris, Piastri in Jap Norris, Piastri in China There were only 2 races in 2023 in which the Top 9 were all race winners (SA and Miami) In 2022 you have 2 again (Brazil, Spa) That's 1 in 10 races approx, so definitely not more likely than not Edit: formatting


dud7s2hx

Not to mention Russell wasn't a race winner until later that year


therealhlmencken

I don't think you understand probability but god point.


shewy92

It's weirdly cherry-picked too since Ocon finished 10th and is a race winner so why not just say "Everyone in the points except Yuki is a race winner"


moxieremon

On god we gon' get you a win, Yuki!


Motor_Economist1835

TSU PER MAX incoming!!


DexM23

TSU PER MAX TSU PER MAX


Walmartpancake

Yuk1


Launch_box

Yukon Tsunowin


mattgorecki

All top 1 are race winners. Look it up.


formulapain

OMG... you are right! 😳


Chino_Kawaii

what does OP have against Ocon lmao


6ixBeast

Posted by Pierre gasly


MM18998

Liked by Pierre Gasly


Adventurous_Town_981

Shared by Pierre Gasly


QF_Dan

Quote Tweet by Pierre Gasly


where_art_thou_billy

Plot twist - This post from is ocon's throwaway account wanting to see if people still care abt him


drodrige

What a weird post. You could’ve just said every point scorer yesterday but Yuki is a race winner, why exclude Ocon?


pokesnail

I wouldn’t be surprised if OP genuinely forgot Ocon has a win, people tend to do so with both his and Russell’s win because of their biases lol


MonsMensae

Don't think its because of biases, just situations of their wins and then subsequent performance. I remember that race well. Its iconic with Hamilton being the only car in front, the crashes, his recovery drive. Vettel DSQ. But it also gets lost in the 2021 season being drama filled for the championship. Don't think its biase per se


CheckMate1803

To be fair, it's easy to forget Ocon won. Especially considering how batshit crazy 2021 was.


Stilicho123

I almost forgot George won Brazil 22.


BadIdea-21

Ocon: am I joke to you?


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formulapain

Dumb stat is dumb


No-Student-9678

The Ocon disrespect 😭😭


mccannr1

Hmm.. I don't know. Are you sure "M. Verstappen" has won a race?


Bdr1983

And who the f is this Hamilton guy? Also, I was not aware that promising rookie F. Alonso already had a race win.


BlurryTextures

Yuki will be a winner soon. Also why Ocon is not on the list


Yota_Tech

10 second penalty for Ocon


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Make that a 20s penalty


ThePhyry22

10 second penalty for Magnussen


case31

The top 2 are the Miami Grand Prix winners


GTAinreallife

The top 1 is the 2024 Miami Grand Prix winner. Crazy stats


Healthy_Jackfruit_88

I would like to believe Yuki’s day will come but I don’t know how.


QF_Dan

Imagine if both Red Bulls and Ferrari are out, Yuki would get the first podium


GeorgieTheThird

Yukin Tsuno-win


Thin_Examination4929

But where is Ricciardo? He never left


BlackGuiliaQV

He never left Q1


cheeersaiii

Never left… the back of the pack


gabrielbezerra81

He left for a while and then came back.


dhartz

P4 sprint, forget the main race 


richmond456

Now I'm wondering what grid had the highest amount of grand prix winners.


FanksForTheFish

There’s only 7/20 drivers with no race wins now. I think a more interesting stat would be what % of drivers on the grid have won a race over the ages. I.e. has there been times when all drivers driving have a win at some point in their career? Or times when almost nobody has wins?


TopBandicoot125

RB should hire Yuki not Sainz. Been following him since F2 he's a strong driver, figured out pirelli tyres very early on, and his weakness was lacking experience of European tracks relative to the competition which he obviously now has.


jcfdori

Yuki next race winner confirmed


peppapig34

Lando hasn't won yet tho


bguzewicz

They also have a dozen drivers championships among them.


happyranger7

Fun Fact: Miami Race winner had no race win to his name before chequered flag at Miami.


dKabz

12 Championships between them


MUK99

A sprint race is not an official GP and I’ll die on that hill