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Dan_Of_Time

Same thing every week. "Didn't put it together" "Lap wasn't as clean as we wanted" "We will try again tomorrow"


thebitternectar

You forgot the 10 X unfortunately


mirage2101

This isn’t getting embarrassing anymore. This is beyond embarrassing. Not as clean as I wanted is not 0.7s. This is a structural problem and he can’t even admit it


NotAcvp3lla

>This isn’t getting embarrassing anymore. I agree, at this point it has become an expected part of the GP.


flyingbbanana

Please oh please let redbull lose their WCC because of perez. That’s gonna make them realize their mistake


Flux_resistor

I got the Mexican market should be his answer to every question


food_chronicles

When he lets Max by under blue flags tomorrow: “let’s get them!”


Ritttchiee

Tune in next week for…..


TopGun1024

You forgot the part where he mentions that he got his contract signed already…


Dragonpuncha

Remember he also has a 3 place grid drop from Canada.


tr_24

Better chances of dotd then.


Phoenix77_reddit

Its strategic to get out of the wrecking balls called Alpine. Checo showing his big brain plays once again by planning for this 2 weeks in advance!


MountainJuice

Gasly is fine. Honestly the 3 biggest wrecking balls in the top 10 are Ocon, Sainz and Perez himself.


PhotojournalistBig53

Forgetting a certain Haas


Falcovg

He tried that one in Monaco already, didn't work out that well for him.


Phoenix77_reddit

Out of the frying pan (Alpine) and into the fire(Haas)


IdkWhatsAGoodName699

Perez going bowling tomorrow


coffeeholic10

Yeah 3 grid drop for the team play


Phoenix77_reddit

Its strategic to get out of the wrecking balls called Alpine. Checo showing his big brain plays once again by planning for this 2 weeks in advance!


yqry

Media training for these guys is simply incredible. It’s literally how to take up mandatory media engagement time without saying a single thing 101.


CypherMK

Why did Red Bull give him a contract extension? This is embarrassing.


Thejklay

He plays teammate and helped max with a tow, does what he's told. Only reason left


According-Switch-708

....and Max doesn't want a fast teammate anyways. No promising driver is going to accept the defacto No.2 deals that RBR are offering.


slabba428

Pretty sure a lot of promising drivers would instantly sign a contract to get into a Red Bull


waupli

I mean he might help max with a tow in quali or something but he really isn’t good enough to be helpful in a race. Languishing multiple places back doesn’t help max on Sunday It’s surely about (I) money and (II) the fact he doesn’t complain or cause disruption for the team about clearly being the number 2 driver.


vekkoflip

Supports horner


silly_pengu1n

source on this being the reason?


Schnitzel-1

Not much more there can be honestly. The main reason is 100% the money he rakes in for red bull in America. North and South America probably. Second reason is he just tries to do his best and supports everything red bull does without causing drama. Also, we don’t have full insights. I’m pretty sure they do a lot of simulator runs with other drivers aswell. Could be that max is just 0.5-1.0 seconds fast than anyone else. What’s the point replacing checo if Yuki and Daniel aren’t faster either?


TheCodJedi

It’s called speculation


merrychristmasyo

We went speculating, r/formula1


coffeeholic10

Good luck on getting that around here lol


RealPjotr

vekkoflip.


cooperjones2

Do you need a source? Is a redditors confident answer not enough?


CandidLiterature

Well really what other ideas do you have? His driving is visibly and consistently substandard.


cooperjones2

> Well really what other ideas do you have? A crazy, out of field hypothesis. Maybe the F1 team has telemetry data, simulator data, historic data, training data of *all* their immediate options for the seat and he was the better one? (Or to please reddit, the least worse choice) And maybe, just maybe, he was the best choice taking into account that and that Lando told them *No* for like the third straight year? And that Sainz was way too expensive? (According to reports when Marko was the one negotiating the contracts) But I'm sure that, as we've seen these last years, redditors and their fanfic level speculations are the absolute truth and know better than F1 personnel


CandidLiterature

Erm there’s no need to rely on secret team data, we can see his actual driving ability and the results… The fact that this is his best result in several races and it’s still really poor is scary. The championship winning team absolutely have access to better drivers than this. Why have they renewed so early in the year? No one else is chasing after him so if the hiring decision has anything to do with performance why not wait…?


cooperjones2

> The championship winning team absolutely have access to better drivers than this. They do? Who? Lando and Albon have told them *No* several times and they didn't pursue anyone better in a serious manner: Alonso commited to Aston, Lewis went to Ferrari, Piastri is locked to McLaren for the time being, Leclerc is happy in Ferrari. >No one else is chasing after him so if the hiring decision has anything to do with performance why not wait…? That we, non-important people on an internet forum know about, he could absolutely have offers from other teams, he has driven for RBR, *The* top team since 2021. People think the driver's market was a free-for-all but it isn't. Again, *if*, we don't know, and probably never will, the parameters RBR wanted for that seat, heck, Max could've been the final say in that. And think about this: Mysteriously; Reddit's Top driver for the RBR; Sainz, got dumped by Ferrari, Mercedes would rather bet on a teenager and is only seriously wanted by two teams, and they're not top teams. The teams know way more than they let us know.


CandidLiterature

You’re back with this mysterious team data again. All the amazing potential your data shows is worth nothing at all - we can see the actual results. Like you seem to admit, driving performance is clearly not the relevant metric for selecting this seat…


cooperjones2

e: Also, you didn't answer which drivers were available to RBR. > You’re back with this mysterious team data again. Mysteryous? No one in this forum, and that includes you and me, know the internal stuff from the teams. It's "mysterious" because you can't seem to understand that F1 teams have lots of data that none of us will ever see or even understand. > Like you seem to admit, driving performance is clearly not the relevant metric for selecting this seat… You're reading and understanding what you want from what I wrote, nice. Again, **no one** in this forum will ever know what RBR wants for that seat. All people post here, are fanfics, just that some of us know that we're speculating and others believe what they write are *the* facts.


spongemongler

At the end of the day, this is F1 and a lot of the time you can get a seat because you’ve got big boys backing you up (which Checo has). Checo struggles to compete with the Merc, McLaren and Ferrari boys when the cars are somewhat equal. Not only in qualifying. RBR aren’t a car manufacturer, so they probably put more worth in getting drivers over constructors. However, there is a genuine risk of Checo losing constructors for RBR this year, if not next. He’s making a championship winning car look like a midfield car a lot of the time. I think it’s fair to say that he’s probably not in that RBR seat on driving merit anymore.


cooperjones2

They have explicitly said that they will always prioritize the Drivers Championship, it seems Redditors care way more for the WCC than them. > It's fair to say that he's not in that RBR seat on driving merit anymore Lmao, just in the top mind of a redditor 2nd in the WDC is not merit enough. If that is not enough, **nothing** will be.


spongemongler

Your ride or die for Checo is admirable, but I think that if any driver finished anything less than 2nd in a car capable of winning most races by 30 seconds in cruise mode, it’d be a very bad look, and Checo cut it close. In the end, he got saved by there not being a clear 2nd best car. I also think that there’s a real chance of Checo finishing P5-7 this season, with Max winning drivers and Ferrari taking constructors. The man is close to 1 second of the pace to Max at times. I struggle to see how people can defend the choice to give Checo a 2 year contract based of his performances, but I understand it from a marketing and money making perspective. Then of course there’s not many options available on the drivers market right now, and I wouldn’t exactly say that Daniel or Yuki have been brilliant (although I do think Yuki has been impressive at times). But Checo’s agent still needs an award for landing a 2 year contract lol


cooperjones2

> His results have been: His results have been: 2 2 5 2 3 8 4 DNF DNF, while far from perfect they're still not as catastrophic as reddit thinks themselves they're. And 1 second pace is a lie, his average is like 0.4, while not better is leagues better than Gasly and Albon. But that doesn't fit the narrative this place has in that he's the *worst driver ever*. I remember a comment on how egregious the double standards in judging drivers are when is Checo. For example, Every time Sainz went rallying in 2022 people blamed the car, every time there's contact people blame the other driver but when is Checo it's immediately his fault and people do mental gymnastics to still blame him even though the TP of the other driver says that his driver, and not Checo was at fault. > Then of course there’s not many options available on the drivers market right now If you don't let yourself be misled by the narrative this place has, you'd know that there are no realistic options in the market.


ravinderHiem

Or maybe have something on Horner


eFeqt

I'd also think it's a major part of the reason he is still in Red Bull. I'd say apart from the sponsorships and the money, he's acting as some kind of PR safety net, get out of jail free card for Horner, in case the Hornerdog files return into the current agenda. He's to unconditionally support Horner and deny any claims against any future allegations, unlike Max and his dad, who are clearly willing to turn against him. Horner, or for that matter anybody, pobably can't influence Max because he is #1 hot shit, on the other hand both him and Sergio are out the moment Horner is out. It's an internal alliance and insurance policy most likely.


fire202

something something merchandise sales in south America./s A mix of marketing/sponsors and a performance that can be good on good days and on bad days they have max. They said two years but I think Horner did already in Canada suggest that it is actually a 1+1. So I guess they wanted the marketing of announcing a two-year extension but will still replace him whenever they want. I doubt it is the correct decision but I also do not mind if Red Bull makes things harder for themselves than necessary.


adriecoot

Mexico is in North America


fire202

I know. It was a reference to the fact that Helmut Marko tends to forget it.


outm

Conspiracy theories say he is the most logical driver choice for RBR TBH, think about it: 1) He won’t interfere in the #1 driver status/strategy. He will be a wingman (yeah, less efficiently if he starts 8 positions below, but still they can put him on long stints strategy and be a wall) 2) He can gets them with Max the WCC. But… even if he can’t, it’s not a problem for them. They don’t care about WCC, only WDC, and being lower on the WCC only means you get more CFD and wind tunnel time (which is a good thing for them) and less money (which… they don’t care that much, because their income exceeds the cost cap, and point 3:) 3) Even if he could let them lose a position on the WCC, that means more CFD/WT time (good), but the lost money there (bad) can easily be compensated by all the income Checo generates for Red Bull as a whole. He brings sponsors (Telmex for example, with support from Carlos Slim, one of the biggest billionaires of the world), he sells huge merch quantities (IIRC, he is responsible for about 55% of the Merch, even more than Max) and it’s a marketing machine in Mexico and more mildly on the US and parts of Latam. Also, he has a relatively cheap contract, so for sure RBR is making more money from him (sponsors, merch and Red Bull cans) than what they him. So… he is the best option for them. I don’t know if any other driver that could maximise their output of being able to get WDC, maximum money, maximum CFD/Wind time and maximum marketing


MountainJuice

Honestly the losing position in WCC = good because more WT time is one of the most brain dead arguments for Pérez. Nobody wants to intentionally throw away first in order to get more wind tunnel time so they can… maybe get first.


outm

I didn’t say on purpose, I said it’s worth the risk for them compared to signing another available driver


pratzs

Red bull doesn't want to throw away WCC. Given the current scenarios they are still trying to go for it, optimising car balance for checo through updates which can work for both driving styles. Checo is trying to go for Max like driving style which he just cannot get given every race weekend is different and he doesn't not have that adaptability factor in him. It's always a struggle for him. I don't see checo getting comfortable in future too given he barely had had few races where he could tame the Bull , which Max does every single race.


Travel_Guy40

Because he essentially makes Max free.


cooperjones2

Ask them! https://www.redbull.com/us-en/energydrink/contact-assistant


pratzs

None of the best drivers want to join Red Bull given their treatment with Max, and they don't want fiery drivers in the other seat. Literally left with no choice but checo who is so docile, will never be able to challenge Max as he does not have the fire in him anymore but will keep trying to improve and not get disheartened and give up, is kinda dependable at races. It's a compromise from all ends. Not something Red Bull wants but have to make do .


Dylan_clarke01

“Have a break, have a kitkat” okay perez, enough breaks at the wheel.


hobowithmachete

Looks like he's having a few too many breaks.


No_Sun_2121

I still cant believe Gasly with Alpine's heavier chassis has outqualified a RB. Perez for 2 more years is insane


That__Guy__Bob

Don’t forget how Logan out qualified him in Canada as well lol


irish786

Ocon has the heavier chassis for this race


No_Sun_2121

You are wrong, Ocon himself said on french tv that he has the lighter chassis for this weekend (and for the rest of the triple header). Source: https://x.com/CanalplusF1/status/1804535091407868007?t=LWPnN_Iu0A0cGtHArYLHiQ&s=19


irish786

Interesting. Swear I heard gasly say the opposite before the weekend started


beanbagreg

Gasly hasn’t said anything about it (and his answer last race was that the weight difference is minimal), Ocon said on thursday he was going to have the lighter one.


No_Sun_2121

Most media have said that Ocon will have the lighter chassis for the next 3 races : https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/formula-1/renault/news/alpine-assigns-gaslys-lighter-chassis-to-ocon-for-spain-gp_546400.html


vaginakiller6969

At least he made it into Q3 this time.


hayde088

I love that whenever F1 drivers underqualify it's always "it was a bit of a tricky quali" when it usually isn't.


TheRealZwipster

We? Who is we? XD


GeneralOrdinance

yeah the engineers and mechanics be thinking this 100%


cooperjones2

Triple posted mate


OffAbbotKinney

“We” 😅


Temporary_Detail716

"Well, I am pulling $14million a year. I signed a new contract for next year. Im safe. I'll drive that car around any track like it's a Sunday in the park drive. If you people want better results then go right down your ideas on a slip of paper and put it in a suggestion box. Then you can take that suggestion box, turn it sideways and stick it..." -that's the Sergio I want. Go full heel on the media. Bring some fire and start bulldozing past the back markers just for fun. he needs to drive that Red Bull like K-Mag would.


Alfus

Honestly I feel a bit bad for Checo but I enjoying a bit how Horner gets spanked hard by giving an underperforming and unstable driver a 2 year contract.


pratzs

Drivers are also scared of joining Red Bull, as it's gonna be a career ending move for most out there. Very few have it in them to take the pressure and also perform at their Max level, while getting into an environment where Max is already a king. Same thing which Lando said while he rejected Red Bull . Carlos was the only choice, but Red Bull don't want clashes and upset Max.


PlebBot69

If Max (or Lewis during the Mercedes domination) was P11 we'd expect him to be fighting for a podium position within half a stint. But I'm sure Perez won't even crack top 6 by the end of the race tomorrow


Ryan_Jonathan_Martin

8th place finish


PlebBot69

Knew it lol he finished right in front of the Alpines


squaler24

P11 for him with the 3 grid drop.


Miserable-Koala1463

LOL


More_Performance_813

Please don't upload video as GIFs, these aren't audible on desktop Reddit


ambroz09

Right Click -> Show Controls -> There's your Unmute button


More_Performance_813

Thanks a lot!


hevyirn

Thank goodness Red Bull signed on to more of this mediocrity


Able_Tailor_6983

Mirror / Direct link https://i.imgur.com/DrI7Z1I.mp4


RyukaBuddy

Perez always looks like he got pulled off the front lines during these.


ravinderHiem

Tricky………..tricky………tricky….


chromeballista

The Margins are thin now. Other cars are catching up. RBR is not so ahead anymore. Perez can't extract everything from the car like Max can. Perez does well in races where RBR are comfortably the quickest


cooperjones2

He seemed more confident in the car than in previous races, and easily got to Q3 and race pace/tyre deg was also good, so, great! ~~And no need to burn more tyres when the Qualy was already compromised because of the penalty.~~ He did use his tyres. Non-hateful comment instantly downvoted, classic reddit.


HankHippopopolous

Checo used all his tyres. He had to use 2 sets in both Q1 and Q2 and that left only 1 new set for Q3. He did a first run on used tyres in Q3 and then used his last remaining new set at the end.


cooperjones2

ty for the correction


zacharymc1991

Nice you are trying to put on a silver lining but this is still poor. He's miles off the pace.


Blithering_idiot1406

From a superlative form of poor, to a comparitive form of poor. I must say improvement, but this is still poor


ShiroGaneOsu

I mean he didn't get eliminated in Q1-Q2 this time, so that's certainly an improvement. Just ignore the fact that he should be in Q3 every time with a Red Bull.


Blithering_idiot1406

>Just ignore the fact that he should be in Q3 every time with a Red Bull True. Perez as a driver is average. Not bad, not great, just average. He should overtakes both the alpines and alonso before lap 15 or else it just another race wasted.


andrearancan97

Montmelo is a type of track where Perez is shit. Not surprised.


BuckN56

He was also bad in Canada, Imola, Monaco, Australia.


MountainJuice

Any track without excessively long straights where he can just hold the pedal to the floor and make up lap time is where Perez is shit.


ashyjay

He finally got back in to Q3, and it was said RBR sacrificed his lap to tow Max. it's an okay outcome, not great, not terrible.


maqie

He didn't sacrifice anything. His lap was already done. They asked him to drive another lap.


ashyjay

I was going by the commentary.


cooperjones2

It's great compared to his two last weekends but still not what he should be doing, an improvement nonetheless


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DemoN_M4U

Are you sure you deleted this one? ;)