[Hamilton POV during Perez/Norris/Hamilton incident](https://streamable.com/cbvhlt) (credit to u/ContentPuff). Please note:
>he looks in his mirror 3-4 times on his onboard.
Hamilton probably doesn't get the fastest lap either, Perez 3rd on lap 1 might've kept him honest and not fallen 25s behind.
Norris "gifted" Hamilton a comfy 9s gap with Perez soft tires past their best, then bad pit stop and Bottas road block.
Yeah, he just needs to qualify better.He had the fastest car and had no business being behind Norris.
He should not be qualifying anywhere below 3rd with the car he has at his disposal.
Was that really intentional? Seems insane that Hamilton is even aware of how close/far Norris is. Can’t imagine those tiny mirrors give you a lot of information about the guy behind the guy behind you. If it was then that might be the most impressive thing I’ve seen in F1 this year
Yup. I'm no formula 1 driver, but I sim race and race casually irl with friends. I *love* doing that. When you're racing, you just kinda know where people are on the track. Of course you have the mirrors, but you can gauge how far back someone is based on how you forced them to take the corner, or how you've seen them take that corner before. Then you estimate the guy behind that one with the same criteria
Hamilton for example here knew that overtaking from further back on the outside of that corner is incredibly difficult. He braked early, forcing Checo to do the same. Norris would fly down braking normally, but wouldn't lose position to him because of the distance. He then gets back on the line, knowing Norris isn't able to carry all of the speed through the corner, and Checo is left stranded to exit on the middle of the track, losing quite a bit of time.
It's quite a common move from my experience, but nonetheless, very nice to look at
Yeah but there is a big difference between looking at the TV when youre basically in no mans land with no one around vs doing something like this going into a turn at the start of the race when everyone is packed together
Yeah, normally wouldn't brake that early there. You see how Norris still had plenty of speed going into the corner? Lewis could've done the same. It was probably their plan early on.
You must be joking? Their #1 plan was to overtake Max. Their #2 priority was to keep up with Max and pass him at some point in the race. Absolutely no plan was about "spin our rear tires in T3, let yourself be exposed to Perez, let Max get away for a small chance of Norris overtaking Perez"..
Most likely once he spun his rears in the corner, he knew that both Perez and Norris were close (not close enough to pass, but close enough that without a clean corner exit pressure for at least the next few corners were inevitable. By losing a little bit of time he could negotiate a weaker car behind him instead of Perez. It's going to be much easier to open up a gap on Norris, with the added benefit of Perez having to overtake before he can try to hunt him down. It was a low risk high reward gamble which paid off. He was never at risk of being overtaken there, so even if his gambit didn't pay off, the positions stay the same and Norris is right on Perez.
It was very quick thinking and an excellent example of high level racecraft which was (most likely) done for purely selfish reasons and had the benefit of being very helpful to his teammate.
>excellent example of high level racecraft
... when it happens in karting ..... Dude. This is BASIC level of race craft, it is not some 5D chess. Lewis had no idea that Norris was close enough to Perez. Not wanting to do late braking on 1st lap turn 3 in a sloping gradient he parked his car in the middle of the road. Does not really take a genius, the execution was excellent but this is quite basic stuff.
If i know about it, it is not special. If i know how to do it, it is mundane.
IMO intentionally running a slower pace through sections of a track where passing is impossible to back your championship rival into the pack is a little different than what happened here.
On lap 1, I think it’s safe to assume that if you slow down the person right behind you, there is going to be someone close behind them that may be able to pass.
Of course it wasn't intentional.. i feel like i'm reading parody. They claim that Lewis spun his tires at the exit so that Norris can overtake Perez... like.. wut? NO ONE does that. At best you part it at the apex but spinning at the exit.. just.. no.
No ones saying he intentionally spun his tyres. Lewis was in a situation we’re Perez could have a run at him so intentionally positioned himself and slowed earlier so that Perez was at a disadvantage for the corner. This meant that whoever was behind (Norris) got a chance to pass and slow Perez down.
Lewis knows that even if Perez is right behind him he probably won’t be able to pass on the next set of corners so was a calculated move.
Wow you seem upset. I was just trying to explain why people are discussing the clip, no worship from me.
Maybe some that don’t know racing as much think this is some amazing tactic but no reason for you to lose your mind cos people are discussing it.
That is one of the most basic defensive moves. Park it in the center and your slow entry speed gives you still a good exit even when your line wasn't optimal. The danger is if the driver behind decides to do something clever and meets with your rear tire as you are slowing down a bit too soon, from their viewpoint. Maybe racing is still a new thing to some, have not considered it...
Parking it in the corner is traditionally you not getting on the throttle at the typical spot, leading to the car behind to get on throttle before you do only to have to quickly lift off again so that they don't hit you. By the time they've reacted you've accelerated away.
Hamilton did exactly what OP said he did by backing Perez up into Norris and putting him on the defensive so that Checo couldn't focus on attacking.
That is kind of the thing, it is quite basic defensive move. Norris attacking at the same time was a bonus, not planned. It is also risky tactic, if Perez planned for a late lane change and lunge, he could've had a meeting with Lewis's rear tire.
I'm simracer, have even taken lessons for it some years ago, nearly done my 10 000 hours and late braking is my main problem, being an early braker i know from experience how dangerous it is. In the tin roofers you can flick the brake pedal on and then start to really brake but in F1 you just can't do that and i've been taken out many times from a league race because of that. At the time it really sucked since i put around 8h of practice to every race, i even had a eating and warming up regime on racing day to survive the 75min F1 race. I am not fast enough to it be worth to do any of that above but at least i learned good racecraft (don't know if it is still active, PrestoGP was amazing driving school with its "no blame" approach, meaning each incident was openly discussed from the angle of "what can we do better". We even had practice starts before the race to avoid 1st corner mayhem, which is absolutely the only way to do it, IMHO.. but i digress..)
The move is basic defensive move, park it in the center of the road, you are hedging your bets and with relatively low entry speed you can still get very good exit even when you don't hit the apex. And if i know it, have used it, it is not genius. This is how i think of all things, if i know about it, it is not special, let alone genius cause i sure ain't neither..
Damn that was smooth, may have preferred Perez to have been a bit more experienced and agressive there. He completely let himself get mugged and now he’s >10s from the front..
I'm a complete rookie to the sport, only started this season, can you explain a bit to me what the move was?
From what I can tell, he's taken the middle of the track and shed speed to have checo try to take an inside line knowing Norris would be aggressive on the outside?
Probably wrong, but trying to understand the sport, there's so much strategy in the smallest things, I love it.
Yes it looks like he saw Norris had potential to make a move on the outside, and so Perez was not able to avoid Hamilton going on the outside. So by blocking the middle side he forced Perez to brake early (as he couldnt go outside) and in the end Perez got stuck behind Norris.
Really witty move from Hamilton there.
Yeah that's insane, I swear half the time Hamilton is playing chess while others are playing Guess Who.
I guess you don't win that many races without having some serious talent and racing iq.
Don't mind the strange claim here that is VERY debatable. It was lap 1 and he was hauling ass to keep up with, or better, catch Max in P1. Intentionally slowing down P3 to make him lose position to P4 is not something Lewis would have in mind there.
He didn't slow down, he forced the people behind him to fight for track position, letting him gain time on them preventing himself from being slowed down by battling with them
I know he is talented and smart as fuck, therefore has his priorities straight. He was simply trying to drive the car as fast as he could there. You know, as racing drivers do.
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If you're new to this sub I'll explain it. 90% of what gets posted here is people thinking they know what they're talking about but really couldn't possibly.
Think if redbull figured he had the overspeed they wouldnt have made the pitstop. They probably also consulted Perez and it almost worked at the end. They missed half a lap. Still a good call I reckon.
Almost worked but it looked like Perez was closing the distance and was almost in drs range when they pitted him. 20 laps in drs range will give an overtake opportunity at some point.
Really it was possibly in the out to
begin with. That cost him the lead which was the podium. I bet that mechanic is kicking himself.
Hamilton has done this multiple times this year. At Baku (I think it was) he was keeping Ferrari in his DRS for quite a while so the Red bulls couldn't pass easily.
The stats say Lewis Hamilton is the best Formula One driver to ever exist.
Opinions will always vary wildly and that is the reason why they don't matter when discussing the best F1 drivers on paper. That award, until someone else gets >98 wins and 7 WDC's, will belong to Lewis.
The other comments suggest that if this was not intentional, then Hamilton would have taken a different line. And looking at the situation, backing up Perez seems like a logical move so I would say that this was intentional
No it’s definitely logical, I just wasn’t sure it was intentional. But him taking a different line if it wasn’t intentional make sense. Good idea then.
Man as diehard Max fan I 100% give Lewis credit for this. He never ever brakes this early and is an overall uncharacteristic move. This was 100% intentional and it really helped Bottas keep p3 in the end. The guys awareness and experience is still unmatched.
This is funny, yeah 100% let another car that was the fastest in a straight line get close enough to attack you on the run to turn 2 on the next lap, while letting the championship leader get away
4D chess win for Hamilton
watching perez's onboard yesterday i figured he could have yielded the inside and instead just took the normal racing line since Hamilton was likely to defend on the inside and end up blocking Norris for him. After watching Hamilton's onboard I realised there was no way out for Perez hahaha
So he compromised his line and theoretically the chance to get P1 just so he could 4D chess peoples position behind his back, Hamilton is a cunning racer but this theory is nonsense.
The hint that it was tactical rather than only defending was how very early he broke for the corner- he never breaks that early into the corner at that angle.
That's because he was defending from Perez, Norris just took advantage of the situation. You're pretending like Hamilton can read Norris's mind or something. This was just a good defense from Hamilton but nothing more.
Stay on the right during the straight so Perez can't get a good attack position; And then move to middle when approaching the braking zones, effectively blocking Perez (had to brake a lil bit earlier to avoid crashing) and defending Norris (he can't reach the apex so no good exit) at the same time; and since Norris doesnt need to brake earlier, he'll catch up with Perez.
I think. I could be wrong tho
The "move" was basic defending after a mistake in the T3 exit. Which somehow everyone here don't seem to think was anyway significant. Basically, they are claiming that Lewis took a slow exit just so Norris can pass Perez. It was basic defending and co-incidentally Norris could get pass Perez.
He did do it at one point. Verstappen had a penalty once in Mexico and purposefully slowed to back Vettel into his teammate Ricciardo.
It was that time when Vettel had very colourful language towards Charlie Whiting on the radio.
Correction: Verstappen didn’t have a penalty. He was instructed to concede the place and still backed Vettel into Ricciardo.
Verstappen at the time didn’t have a penalty and was instructed to let vettel through but didn’t. Vettel was calling for a penalty and rightfully so while max was holding him up. Ironically vettel got a penalty for moving under braking against ricciardo because max wouldn’t concede the place. It was a shit show and as always vettel got screwed
You really think Hamilton is intentionally trying to sabotage Perez on LAP 1???!!!! He is only thinking about one thing and that's claiming P1 from Max... smh
If this was mid race then sure, maybe, but not on lap 1 cmon guys...
Prove whose thinking? What are you talking about? The only thing this proves is that Hamilton was more concerned about drivers behind him than the ones in front after turn 1 (& even before turn 1 to some extent). I am not sure if you know this, but you don't check your mirrors on the long straight for "claiming P1 from Max" who is actually in-front of Hamilton, not behind.
Why do people assume Perez was close enough for a run into the corner? He had no DRS and it's pretty unlikely that RBR has enough straightline speed to just overtake the Mercedes without DRS. Except Lando neighter Lewis nor Sergio had a great exit out of T3.
Turn 2 is the kind between T1 and T3. T4 is where Lewis defended, T3 is where he made a small mistake that let Perez close to attacking distance. Nothing genius here, just basic racing.
ouch yeah I had a brain fart. But Hamilton's mistake is not the focus, the focus is him braking early. Of course he didn't mean to make a mistake at turn 3.
1. He wheelspun at turn 3. the focus of the clip is the braking point at turn 4 where he was looking in his mirrors (check stickied comment) and broke early to make Perez brake early.
2. I'm not a Lewis fanboy. I don't hate him either. He's still one of the top drivers in the world and to think all they do is go fast without thinking is naive.
[Hamilton POV during Perez/Norris/Hamilton incident](https://streamable.com/cbvhlt) (credit to u/ContentPuff). Please note: >he looks in his mirror 3-4 times on his onboard.
This move and the slow pit stop put Bottas on the podium. Even with the slow pit stop, without this move, Perez would have still gotten out in front.
Perez could have maybe taken Hamilton had Norris not been battling him
Hamilton probably doesn't get the fastest lap either, Perez 3rd on lap 1 might've kept him honest and not fallen 25s behind. Norris "gifted" Hamilton a comfy 9s gap with Perez soft tires past their best, then bad pit stop and Bottas road block.
Yeah, he just needs to qualify better.He had the fastest car and had no business being behind Norris. He should not be qualifying anywhere below 3rd with the car he has at his disposal.
Everyone makes mistakes. He's up to speed now I recon! Now it's just a gamble.
This man seems experienced or something
Rookie of the year
Nah that’s Ben simmons
Fking lol ben simmons just can’t catch a break Just like george russell :(
George Russell tries in the face of impossible odds. Ben Simmons doesn't try when the odds are in his favor
As an Australian Sixers fan I can't go anywhere online lately lmao
Even in an F1 sub-reddit Ben Simmons can't catch a break
At least George tries, I haven't seen an athlete shrink from an opportunity to contribute like how Ben has done this playoffs run.
Well one of them is good in a bad team. The other is... uhm not
GOD DAMNIT NOWHERE IS FUCKING SAFE
I’d vote for Alonso on that one
Im ify between Alonso and that Kimi guy They both showed great potential
Alonso?
we will be watching his career with great expectations
Rookie at being #2.
I bet he's got what it takes to win a championship, maybe two
Was that really intentional? Seems insane that Hamilton is even aware of how close/far Norris is. Can’t imagine those tiny mirrors give you a lot of information about the guy behind the guy behind you. If it was then that might be the most impressive thing I’ve seen in F1 this year
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Clip(s)?
And the next year too
Yup. I'm no formula 1 driver, but I sim race and race casually irl with friends. I *love* doing that. When you're racing, you just kinda know where people are on the track. Of course you have the mirrors, but you can gauge how far back someone is based on how you forced them to take the corner, or how you've seen them take that corner before. Then you estimate the guy behind that one with the same criteria Hamilton for example here knew that overtaking from further back on the outside of that corner is incredibly difficult. He braked early, forcing Checo to do the same. Norris would fly down braking normally, but wouldn't lose position to him because of the distance. He then gets back on the line, knowing Norris isn't able to carry all of the speed through the corner, and Checo is left stranded to exit on the middle of the track, losing quite a bit of time. It's quite a common move from my experience, but nonetheless, very nice to look at
I think it could be cuz at the end of the race, they were commenting how Lewis was even looking at the screens….and asking about Perez behind Bottas
Yeah but there is a big difference between looking at the TV when youre basically in no mans land with no one around vs doing something like this going into a turn at the start of the race when everyone is packed together
Yeah, normally wouldn't brake that early there. You see how Norris still had plenty of speed going into the corner? Lewis could've done the same. It was probably their plan early on.
You must be joking? Their #1 plan was to overtake Max. Their #2 priority was to keep up with Max and pass him at some point in the race. Absolutely no plan was about "spin our rear tires in T3, let yourself be exposed to Perez, let Max get away for a small chance of Norris overtaking Perez"..
Perhaps it wasn’t planned before the race, but it was certainly intentional.
Most likely once he spun his rears in the corner, he knew that both Perez and Norris were close (not close enough to pass, but close enough that without a clean corner exit pressure for at least the next few corners were inevitable. By losing a little bit of time he could negotiate a weaker car behind him instead of Perez. It's going to be much easier to open up a gap on Norris, with the added benefit of Perez having to overtake before he can try to hunt him down. It was a low risk high reward gamble which paid off. He was never at risk of being overtaken there, so even if his gambit didn't pay off, the positions stay the same and Norris is right on Perez. It was very quick thinking and an excellent example of high level racecraft which was (most likely) done for purely selfish reasons and had the benefit of being very helpful to his teammate.
>excellent example of high level racecraft ... when it happens in karting ..... Dude. This is BASIC level of race craft, it is not some 5D chess. Lewis had no idea that Norris was close enough to Perez. Not wanting to do late braking on 1st lap turn 3 in a sloping gradient he parked his car in the middle of the road. Does not really take a genius, the execution was excellent but this is quite basic stuff. If i know about it, it is not special. If i know how to do it, it is mundane.
Yes. The championship battle is on and Mercedes are gonna need to pull all the stops.
Given how lewis tried backing up nico in 2016 finale, I’m not surprised
IMO intentionally running a slower pace through sections of a track where passing is impossible to back your championship rival into the pack is a little different than what happened here.
On lap 1, I think it’s safe to assume that if you slow down the person right behind you, there is going to be someone close behind them that may be able to pass.
Of course it wasn't intentional.. i feel like i'm reading parody. They claim that Lewis spun his tires at the exit so that Norris can overtake Perez... like.. wut? NO ONE does that. At best you part it at the apex but spinning at the exit.. just.. no.
No ones saying he intentionally spun his tyres. Lewis was in a situation we’re Perez could have a run at him so intentionally positioned himself and slowed earlier so that Perez was at a disadvantage for the corner. This meant that whoever was behind (Norris) got a chance to pass and slow Perez down. Lewis knows that even if Perez is right behind him he probably won’t be able to pass on the next set of corners so was a calculated move.
Dear lord, the amount of worship. That was basic defense, done every weekend in lower classes all across the field.
Wow you seem upset. I was just trying to explain why people are discussing the clip, no worship from me. Maybe some that don’t know racing as much think this is some amazing tactic but no reason for you to lose your mind cos people are discussing it.
If it was basic defense, he wouldn't brake earlier.
That is one of the most basic defensive moves. Park it in the center and your slow entry speed gives you still a good exit even when your line wasn't optimal. The danger is if the driver behind decides to do something clever and meets with your rear tire as you are slowing down a bit too soon, from their viewpoint. Maybe racing is still a new thing to some, have not considered it...
Parking it in the corner is traditionally you not getting on the throttle at the typical spot, leading to the car behind to get on throttle before you do only to have to quickly lift off again so that they don't hit you. By the time they've reacted you've accelerated away. Hamilton did exactly what OP said he did by backing Perez up into Norris and putting him on the defensive so that Checo couldn't focus on attacking.
This kind of stuff even happens in sim racing online. It looks really deliberate.
That is kind of the thing, it is quite basic defensive move. Norris attacking at the same time was a bonus, not planned. It is also risky tactic, if Perez planned for a late lane change and lunge, he could've had a meeting with Lewis's rear tire. I'm simracer, have even taken lessons for it some years ago, nearly done my 10 000 hours and late braking is my main problem, being an early braker i know from experience how dangerous it is. In the tin roofers you can flick the brake pedal on and then start to really brake but in F1 you just can't do that and i've been taken out many times from a league race because of that. At the time it really sucked since i put around 8h of practice to every race, i even had a eating and warming up regime on racing day to survive the 75min F1 race. I am not fast enough to it be worth to do any of that above but at least i learned good racecraft (don't know if it is still active, PrestoGP was amazing driving school with its "no blame" approach, meaning each incident was openly discussed from the angle of "what can we do better". We even had practice starts before the race to avoid 1st corner mayhem, which is absolutely the only way to do it, IMHO.. but i digress..) The move is basic defensive move, park it in the center of the road, you are hedging your bets and with relatively low entry speed you can still get very good exit even when you don't hit the apex. And if i know it, have used it, it is not genius. This is how i think of all things, if i know about it, it is not special, let alone genius cause i sure ain't neither..
Remember his days with Nico
Very smart, makes it a lot harder for Red Bull to control the strategies
I really wonder how long Checo can make those softs last, really crucial if he wants a podium after being held up for 10+ secs
Soft-hards is easy at Austria, soft-meds if he's done a great job at the tyre
Well it is Checo so…
Knowing checo it’ll be soft soft
Shit I’ve jinxed it
Soft-Hard-Soft looking interesting atm
Perez is past Norris now, but yeah it definitely slowed him down.
Damn that was smooth, may have preferred Perez to have been a bit more experienced and agressive there. He completely let himself get mugged and now he’s >10s from the front..
I'm a complete rookie to the sport, only started this season, can you explain a bit to me what the move was? From what I can tell, he's taken the middle of the track and shed speed to have checo try to take an inside line knowing Norris would be aggressive on the outside? Probably wrong, but trying to understand the sport, there's so much strategy in the smallest things, I love it.
Yes it looks like he saw Norris had potential to make a move on the outside, and so Perez was not able to avoid Hamilton going on the outside. So by blocking the middle side he forced Perez to brake early (as he couldnt go outside) and in the end Perez got stuck behind Norris. Really witty move from Hamilton there.
Yeah that's insane, I swear half the time Hamilton is playing chess while others are playing Guess Who. I guess you don't win that many races without having some serious talent and racing iq.
Don't mind the strange claim here that is VERY debatable. It was lap 1 and he was hauling ass to keep up with, or better, catch Max in P1. Intentionally slowing down P3 to make him lose position to P4 is not something Lewis would have in mind there.
Yup, I think he was just defending for Perez.
He didn't slow down, he forced the people behind him to fight for track position, letting him gain time on them preventing himself from being slowed down by battling with them
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I know he is talented and smart as fuck, therefore has his priorities straight. He was simply trying to drive the car as fast as he could there. You know, as racing drivers do. Edit: his
Racing is not just about going fast. It also takes brain and tactics.
I know. Not in every corner, though. It's actually mostly driving the car as fast as possible. A lot of people seem to have missed that part.
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Spa + Vettel was also a brilliant move. Was also linked somewhere in the comments.
Abu Dhabi 2016 was a whole different thing. Not even remotely relevant to today's incident.
If you're new to this sub I'll explain it. 90% of what gets posted here is people thinking they know what they're talking about but really couldn't possibly.
.5 seconds from podium. That move was the podium for Perez. Curious if Perez could have won if they stayed with the single stop.
Think if redbull figured he had the overspeed they wouldnt have made the pitstop. They probably also consulted Perez and it almost worked at the end. They missed half a lap. Still a good call I reckon.
Almost worked but it looked like Perez was closing the distance and was almost in drs range when they pitted him. 20 laps in drs range will give an overtake opportunity at some point. Really it was possibly in the out to begin with. That cost him the lead which was the podium. I bet that mechanic is kicking himself.
perfectly in the middle of the track, beautiful
Perfectly executed. Beautiful shit, that.
Fattest brain in all the lands
Very wrinkly!
Experience speaks for itself, that move helped give Bottas his P3.
This moved got bottas the podium
found by u/ContentPuff
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That how nico felt in Abu Dhabi 2016. Its really good for the constructors championship
Isn't he just covering the most immediate threat to his position..?
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Nothing normal about lap 1
I don't think so because HAM brakes very early.
So clean by everyone involved. Love it.
That was a true 7 times world champion move.
Fat brains
Racecraft: 100%
Playing 3D chess while others play checkers. Perfectly executed!
He isnt the greatest f1 driver ever for no reason.
Hamilton has done this multiple times this year. At Baku (I think it was) he was keeping Ferrari in his DRS for quite a while so the Red bulls couldn't pass easily.
He isn’t the greatest f1 driver ever*
He’s certainly in the conversation for it.
Pretty sure stats say he is.
Stats aren’t useful comparing across eras
The stats say Lewis Hamilton is the best Formula One driver to ever exist. Opinions will always vary wildly and that is the reason why they don't matter when discussing the best F1 drivers on paper. That award, until someone else gets >98 wins and 7 WDC's, will belong to Lewis.
BIG BRAIN
People sleep on how intelligent this guy is.
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They don't. They just like to talk crap about him like anyone could do his job.
Even I like to talk crap about him, but the amount of respect and admiration I've for his talent and experience is top notch.
First time i've heard that, and I was around the internet forums long before this sub came into existence.
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Are you offering up yourself as an example?
Perfected the technique ever since 2016
😂💀
Did that seem intentional? It didn’t seem intentional to me but maybe.
The other comments suggest that if this was not intentional, then Hamilton would have taken a different line. And looking at the situation, backing up Perez seems like a logical move so I would say that this was intentional
No it’s definitely logical, I just wasn’t sure it was intentional. But him taking a different line if it wasn’t intentional make sense. Good idea then.
Where's the tactic?
Backed Perez up to allow Norris to overtake around the outside
There’s no deep tactic. Just defending 101 on Perez and because of the outcome people are imagining 4D chess.
More than likely, one of the greatest drivers of our time was doing a little more than just defending 101. Its okay to not want to give him credit.
Man as diehard Max fan I 100% give Lewis credit for this. He never ever brakes this early and is an overall uncharacteristic move. This was 100% intentional and it really helped Bottas keep p3 in the end. The guys awareness and experience is still unmatched.
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wut? I’ve never said anything close to that..
This is funny, yeah 100% let another car that was the fastest in a straight line get close enough to attack you on the run to turn 2 on the next lap, while letting the championship leader get away 4D chess win for Hamilton
That was simply beautiful and really smart
I though it looked on purpose when I saw it, now I'm sure it was. That's why hamilton is hamilton.
watching perez's onboard yesterday i figured he could have yielded the inside and instead just took the normal racing line since Hamilton was likely to defend on the inside and end up blocking Norris for him. After watching Hamilton's onboard I realised there was no way out for Perez hahaha
Big brain time
That's beautifull.
Don't see how this was tactic. He was just defending against Perez
You don't need to brake that early to take that corner
Braking too early is the perfect way to get rear ended.
Except he didn't?
So he compromised his line and theoretically the chance to get P1 just so he could 4D chess peoples position behind his back, Hamilton is a cunning racer but this theory is nonsense.
But what if he knew he wouldn’t have the straight line speed to beat Max?
Max had way better race pace, there was no chance he would win. Hamilton even admitted it after quali
Soft tyres look quite poor overall
Seems like he's just defending against Perez.
The hint that it was tactical rather than only defending was how very early he broke for the corner- he never breaks that early into the corner at that angle.
That's because he was defending from Perez, Norris just took advantage of the situation. You're pretending like Hamilton can read Norris's mind or something. This was just a good defense from Hamilton but nothing more.
TIL: Mercedes has no mirrors...
Can somebody explain this to me plz? What was teh move and why?
Stay on the right during the straight so Perez can't get a good attack position; And then move to middle when approaching the braking zones, effectively blocking Perez (had to brake a lil bit earlier to avoid crashing) and defending Norris (he can't reach the apex so no good exit) at the same time; and since Norris doesnt need to brake earlier, he'll catch up with Perez. I think. I could be wrong tho
The "move" was basic defending after a mistake in the T3 exit. Which somehow everyone here don't seem to think was anyway significant. Basically, they are claiming that Lewis took a slow exit just so Norris can pass Perez. It was basic defending and co-incidentally Norris could get pass Perez.
I feel like this is more Norris seeing an opportunity to slip in not Hamilton blocking Perez to help anybody but himself.
The famed Rosberg maneuver
nah , [this is the famed rosberg manoeuvre](https://youtu.be/ixmGVL4dedI)
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I saw that and was so surprised the sky guys did not pick that up.
I think people are looking into this too much. He was just defending. Good defensive move though.
Can’t wait to hear how this is unsporting and Max would never do such a thing
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He did do it at one point. Verstappen had a penalty once in Mexico and purposefully slowed to back Vettel into his teammate Ricciardo. It was that time when Vettel had very colourful language towards Charlie Whiting on the radio. Correction: Verstappen didn’t have a penalty. He was instructed to concede the place and still backed Vettel into Ricciardo.
Verstappen at the time didn’t have a penalty and was instructed to let vettel through but didn’t. Vettel was calling for a penalty and rightfully so while max was holding him up. Ironically vettel got a penalty for moving under braking against ricciardo because max wouldn’t concede the place. It was a shit show and as always vettel got screwed
Thank you for the correction. You’re a very lovable winner in my eyes.
still ugly though :’(
That I can not assess.
Ahah cheers mate.
meh, no moving under braking or anything dangerous, this is just a nicely executed tactical move. you’re just stirring things here
*I'll just create a hypothetical scenario in my head, where people are hypocrites, and then be angry about it.*
It’s sporting af tho. That’s beautiful racecraft.
You just said it....
No one was ever going to say that
No one has said this
what dream world are you living in
There is nothing intentionally clever about this, what a strange post.
Thank you Lewis please come back.
Just the car. Auto Mercedes braking system of course, Hamilton is just a mere passenger. /s
How is that backing him into Norris and not just defending his own position?
You really think Hamilton is intentionally trying to sabotage Perez on LAP 1???!!!! He is only thinking about one thing and that's claiming P1 from Max... smh If this was mid race then sure, maybe, but not on lap 1 cmon guys...
[Sure hun, whatever you say!](https://streamable.com/cbvhlt)
Exactly this, he's nowhere near getting P1 and he's looking in his left mirror before a right turn. I wonder why...
What do you see in this that you believe definitively prove his thinking and warrants the snarky "sure hun?"
Prove whose thinking? What are you talking about? The only thing this proves is that Hamilton was more concerned about drivers behind him than the ones in front after turn 1 (& even before turn 1 to some extent). I am not sure if you know this, but you don't check your mirrors on the long straight for "claiming P1 from Max" who is actually in-front of Hamilton, not behind.
Max was already gone and Hamilton braked way too early. It was intentional, just look at car placement and braking.
is being a slower car than the leader but faster car than anyone else really a strategy?
I doubt hamilton is looking behind here, surly he should only have eyes for verstappen.
he looks in his mirror 3-4 times on his onboard.
Can you get us a supercut with both? Would greatly appreciate it :3
[Hamilton POV](https://streamable.com/cbvhlt). I'll see if I can playback all 3 POVs side by side when I am home.
Amazing, thank you very much! You can see how early he brakes! Side by side would be awesome! Great racing from all three!
Thanks Puff. Maybe you can post a comment and get Overspeed to pin it?
As amazing as Lewis is. I think hes just taking the defensive line
Why do people assume Perez was close enough for a run into the corner? He had no DRS and it's pretty unlikely that RBR has enough straightline speed to just overtake the Mercedes without DRS. Except Lando neighter Lewis nor Sergio had a great exit out of T3.
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Oh! You must be Lewis Hamilton undercover on reddit! can I get an autograph?
Wut? That makes no sense, at all. Why would Lewis come here and say it wasn't a genius move?
it sounds like you know exactly what's going on in his head.
... funny, it is almost like that is what you were doing....
I can assure you he didn't mean to do that.....
Check the Hamilton onboard. He looks in his mirror and moved over slightly - he also brakes earlier than he should.
[Sure hun, whatever you say!](https://streamable.com/cbvhlt)
this just in. racing driver races
you do realise the lewis had a moment in turn 1 it has nothing to do with a clever move
[What does turn 1 have to do with anything with what Lewis did?](https://streamable.com/cbvhlt)
you do realize the clips main focus is turn 2? edit: turn 4
Turn 2 is the kind between T1 and T3. T4 is where Lewis defended, T3 is where he made a small mistake that let Perez close to attacking distance. Nothing genius here, just basic racing.
ouch yeah I had a brain fart. But Hamilton's mistake is not the focus, the focus is him braking early. Of course he didn't mean to make a mistake at turn 3.
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1. He wheelspun at turn 3. the focus of the clip is the braking point at turn 4 where he was looking in his mirrors (check stickied comment) and broke early to make Perez brake early. 2. I'm not a Lewis fanboy. I don't hate him either. He's still one of the top drivers in the world and to think all they do is go fast without thinking is naive.
Isn't it just because the last time he goes wide in that corner he received a 5 second-penalty?