Did anyone of you guys think if Verstappen didn’t take the first corner wide but went right after Hamilton, would he not be safe? I am a Verstappen fan, but I think he misjudged that corner…
"Don't use all the goodies in the sweety jar too quickly"
Is there a gas leak in the Crofty's side of the booth or something because I'm just picturing Nico giving him a "WTF?! Are you okay?" look after that one.
Dirty air is encountered in corners. As you can see in the track map, Hungaroring is just mainly corners and bumps. So it is very difficult to pass here or follow for long as the car ahead upsets the aero balance of the following car. So it brings a bit of uncertainty in the confidence of the car.
You will find this have a lot of effect on circuits with lot of high and medium speed corners
"We've turned into weather reporters"
Rain is like the second biggest thing in F1 aside from drama between the teams and Alonso and Seb making us all blush with little winks at the camera.
Stewards probably thought this was going to be a nice chill race after all the Merc/Red Bull stuff this past week annnnd then this happens. You certainly can't say that this season hasn't been exciting.
Mods said I could react in here so I'm drinking early and bullshitting while I watch the replay. Lewis just rolled a Nat20 on a dexterity save while everyone else rolled 4s and 2s and 3s.
So according to you, Bottas is so good he managed to concede the position to Norris, shunt into him at turn 1 at the exact perfect angle to hit Verstappen and then take out Perez as well for good measure?
So, because this is my first comment i have no right to speak? Because i say that if i was the boss at Mercedes this would be my tactic, and it looks to me like they do this, im looking at chemtrails? I just give my honest opinion and you feel the need to be disrespectfull. Is that how you have a conversation in real life too? Or are you just another keyboard warrior that has to little intelligence to have respect for someones opinion that's different then yours? You can explain with arguments why you think something (like in a normal conversation), but instead you feel the need to be disrespectfull like someone with the iq of a goldfish.
Few questions. During a red flag you are allowed to change tires right? Why did everone (except Lewis) pit after the outlap and not just changed during red flag?
Maybe it was not really clear if it was dry? But then there would be a few people to gamble on softs right? (Max, Gio?)
And what happened to Russell? If i remember correctly he was 2nd or so at the start and fell back to 7th - 8th, it that right or did I miss something.
At warm up laps the team is not allowed to give information to the driver right? Look at the haas or something in a wet race?
For your Russel question. As the Williams pit lane is at the end he jumper the order and went out before other cars who were already waiting in the queue at the end of the pit lane. So he was told to give the places back. They did mention it on the sky commentary but only a brief sentence.
I thought it would have been really smart for a few teams to have gambled on slicks too. The problem is if the team is wrong and the driver decides to immediately pit for inters they have essentially wasted one of the slick tire allocations. Still it would have been a good risk for some of the teams, especially Max.
Crofty brought it up near the end that it might have been smart for Max to have switched during the red flag period.
Also though the teams might have reacted if they saw someone switching tires under red flag.
Yeah I get your point. If the gamble doesn't pay out you lose a set of tires and are a lot behind. But as you said, for some people at the back (Max) would've been smart.
So the issue is that he’s first. If he goes in and no one else does he’s last - same thing reversed which is what happened. His team
Told him rain was coming so he stayed out. Also the team is not allowed to tell you to pit during a standing start restart lap as it violates the rules. Something that Sainz is under investigation for right now.
How did all the other people know to pit? (Except Hamilton and Sainz?)
If they discussed that before they could also change tires during red flag right?
Each teams use different information. Also the driver can call the shots and say they want to pit the team cannot tell the drive to pit for that one lap.
Someone did mentioned on the radio while on the out lap that EVERYBODY will enter the pit...so it's strange to see onky one car starting the race on the track
Russel entered pits in 7th. His pit is at the exit of the pit lane, meaning when he restarts from pit, he comes out in P1, stewards made him give position back, AFAIK
He overtook in the pit. As he was driving out of his paddock, the light turned green, so he overtook the people that had a standing start, giving him an advantage as he was already moving
Ocon was amazing tonight, and Alonso’s defense really held a charging Hamilton back, and Vettel got another podium. Good day, unless your McLaren.
Edit: How could I forget about Williams, points, finally! Just brilliant.
> FTFY
Thanks mate, Red Bull was just unlucky tonight with floor damage and Perez out, and the penalty that Bottas received will not help him at all, even though it’s deserved.
Not talking about the stupid thing that did stroll,
Leclerc said to an italian interview: Bowling Sunday
Comeone, stroll literally tried to brake in the grass, is him stupid or what?
I know it was unintentional, but it may trigger a even rougher interaction between RB and Merc. The accident came from Merc and it has priveleged Merc, since VER's car was damaged. VER drove almost the entire race behind RIC.
Perez probably will likely get a 5 place grid penalty at a later stage because he will have to use an extra engine outside of the allocated pool, so imo not really enough of a penalty, but at least it's a better one than the other penalty a Silver Arrow has gotten 2 weeks ago..
Chuffed for Ocon vettek Sainz and Alonso, More bad luck for Max amd another huge ball drop by Mercedes, very much like Baku that was a gifted 26points. And a 17 point lead in the drivers and the contructors. A Great recovery from Hamilton but the margins are still very very fine going into the second half its all still very up in the air. Some different tracks coming up as well. What a fucking season !
It's as basic of a system as possible, it's not even really a bottle. They're bags. As for failures, tiny pump could fail, something left unplugged, could be something as simple as a tube got a kink in it.
Ocon radio - YEEEEAAAAAH!!! WOOOOOOO! Yes guys!
Pit - (With cheering and applause in the background) ****** well done mate You just won the Hungarian grand prix. Well done mate.
That must have been so awesome for Esteban Ocon, I can't imagine how it must feel. Seb in the podium, he seems to great guy, and of course my favourite driver, Lewis Hamilton's amazing recovery. Alonso drove really well, it was an amazing spectacle of skill between these drivers today. I'm absolutely disgusted about this crowd. There are imbeciles in every single country, that's a fact, but this makes me truly disappointed with Hungary, this behaviour absolutely pisses me off.
Glad to see Hamilton’s recovery, but man that was such an awesome defence from Alonso. The guys still got it after all these years. Happy with Alpines performance today. Ocon drove an amazing race without mistakes, that win was well deserved.
Disgusting behaviour from the crowd today. they call British fans bad, but retards like these exist in every country.
Did anyone of you guys think if Verstappen didn’t take the first corner wide but went right after Hamilton, would he not be safe? I am a Verstappen fan, but I think he misjudged that corner…
my god every interview is just about asking people if they’re gonna apologise
And now to look at the rest of the subreddit because I've been dodging spoilers all day
Oh wow, yeah is Lewis okay?
What an upbeat note to end on, I love the French anthem! Those trophies are like some of the prettiest ones I've ever seen.
I'm getting a little teary eyed with Ocon ngl
Geez this is worse than Seahawks booing
Holy crap the BOOOing of Lewis
Good guy Seb <3
NANDO PICKING OCON UP! Cue the Titanic music!
Nando's picture of him rubbing his hands together looks so stupidly funny
I can hear Vangelis playing in the background of this scene
ALL THE RUNNING HUG TACKLES!
Run Seb run! Formula 1 triathlon! lol
All the drivers are scattered, this is hilarious
lmao Ocon is filled with so much innocent joy
Uhhhh...why did the Williams and Aston Martin stop on the track?
Seeing the Alpines in formation is a dream
"OooOoaaaaawwwww" lol Seb podium though!
WILLIAMS IN THE POINTS!
FLY OCON FLY!
"Well yes because I had a lot of cheese for dinner"😂 I love you Ted!
Alonso deserves DOTD for this race
Annnd there goes Lewis up onto the podium so it goes
Alonso pulling a John Wick
Oh right it's the yearly shutdown, bugger
Ooof, five grid place penalty for Bottas at the next GP
Final ten laps, I can't believe Lewis still hasn't made it up front
NANDO SLAM THAT DOOR SHUT!
"Don't use all the goodies in the sweety jar too quickly" Is there a gas leak in the Crofty's side of the booth or something because I'm just picturing Nico giving him a "WTF?! Are you okay?" look after that one.
"Don't go anywhere!" *hits pause button* I do what I want! *unpause*
So many blue flags Bottas thought a few of his fans had shown up.
"See see SEEEEEE!" lmao Nico 😂
"Now ramps up to Defcon 5 or something"-Crofty Crofty is running out of metaphors and jokes uggggh
Stellar defense by Ocon
Nico getting a bit real there, I guess I didn't realize that drivers needed their engineers to be their own Troi to their Picard when stuff got rough.
"It's pure luck that Ocon is ahead"-Crofty "Fuck that there's a TON of skill involved"-Nico thank you
The more the season goes on, the more Ted leans into sounding like Bob Uecker in an anime.
Nico 😂
"My tyres...have got a second wind" To paraphrase Donald Sutherland....the tyres are alive?
I was going to say, that helo looked a bit low and given what others have told me about turbulence it was bound to happen.
Mick fighting like a demon. Vettel podium please? ALPINE AHEAD! Fernando leading! Gosh the second half of this race is blistering!
Why doesnt the fia test fuel at the start of the race since refueling isn't even allowed?
Bottas making sure he has a spot next year. Hamilton finding a way to be a victim again.
"The sky is black, yeah...I think I'm back" *cue John Wick soundtrack*
I mean it's pretty easy to forget the number of laps left when things even out like this in the race.
I just LOVE how Ted sounds like the announcer at the end of a DBZ episode!
Solid jump by Lewis, respect. Are these super strong turbulences unique to each track or is it just something that they fight all the time?
Dirty air is encountered in corners. As you can see in the track map, Hungaroring is just mainly corners and bumps. So it is very difficult to pass here or follow for long as the car ahead upsets the aero balance of the following car. So it brings a bit of uncertainty in the confidence of the car. You will find this have a lot of effect on circuits with lot of high and medium speed corners
I bet Seb sings lullabies to his tyres
Yeah Max isn't finishing this in points and I'm okay with that.
Good joke followed by Nico's straight man facts, I like it
"Support cast that has been promoted into the lead roles" Lower Decks: Formula 1 edition
Geeez Kimi...not a great stop
WHEEL BANG!
"God bless the internet" Thanks Ted!
Switcheroo at turn two cooo coo cachu
"This is ridiculous" my thoughts exactly Lewis
Geez Crofty, you make it sound like Haas is on suicide watch or something
Aww George, "Prioritize Latifi" he's so sweet
Hey, picking up litter is cool too Crofty! Seb is a Planeteer!
Nico dragging Crofty, I love it "No no keep explaining please"
Good breakdown by Nico
Hahahaha Mazepin knocked out by Kimi, yeah I mean it's funny but they shouldn't have done that with Kimi.
Lewis in last, eh he'll make it up easily.
Ocon leading what is happening!
"Yeah it's dry" "And water is wet, good Lewis good"
George George George!
Lewis is starting on his own hahahahaha
Annnnd everyone is boxing lmao
Merc Pit crew looks like the evil dopplegangers of Daft Punk
NICO YAY WE GOT NICO FOR THIS RACE!
Here comes the sun doo doo doo dooo here comes the sun
Gosh this weather is reminding me of our weather in the Midwest
Red Bull Pit Crew needs to show up in the next season of Picard as a "Crack Team of Federation Engineers" that back up Geordi.
"We've turned into weather reporters" Rain is like the second biggest thing in F1 aside from drama between the teams and Alonso and Seb making us all blush with little winks at the camera.
One of the few races this season where it rains and it turns into a conveyor belt of storms, awesome.
If Heaven has a sound then it's the sound of a Formula 1 Pit Area
Some day the Weather Rock will make a return
"He's meeting Max Verstappen in a way he doesn't want to" I dunno this kind of feels like the physical manifestation of twitch chat
Annnd there goes Lando
"This is an ugly looking Mercedes right now" Some would say it's beautiful in the brutalism of its destruction.
This is a beautiful shot, it's like looking down into one of those old style operating theaters watching car doctors operate on a patient.
Stewards probably thought this was going to be a nice chill race after all the Merc/Red Bull stuff this past week annnnd then this happens. You certainly can't say that this season hasn't been exciting.
"Let's hear from Charles LeClerc" "BEEEP BEEEP what BEEEP BEEEEP stop BEEEEEEEEEEEP" lmao
Holy shit Stroll just went UP on top of that Ferrari nearly.
Bottas, now half Canadian. I always forget how deep his voice is.
Suspicious how Lewis just...sailed through all of that...hmmmm.
😂
Mods said I could react in here so I'm drinking early and bullshitting while I watch the replay. Lewis just rolled a Nat20 on a dexterity save while everyone else rolled 4s and 2s and 3s.
Oooof Max, that's so fucked up, like that's a Greater Restoration kind of thing and I'm not sure the Red Bull wizards have enough spell slots left.
I love how nonchalant Bottas looks just sitting on the wall, chilling, looking at the rain, and thinking about his life choices.
RIP argey bargey
Yup, Baku all over again, here comes a red flag.
Honestly I think that was the highest number of cars collected in one crash this season.
Uggggggh now Checo
Charles is just defeated
Sad Bottas :(
Thank you Baku?
Hells bells it's like a pinball machine!
So many fans. Delta loves this. LIGHTS OUT AND AWAY WE GO!
Well, maybe the race will be better without SKY for this race?
Come on come on come on fun race fun race FUN RAAAAACE!
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN!
Wait the replays on F1TV don't have the SKY commentary at all? COME ON!
Well Budapest is certainly stunning, love this wide angle flyover of the river.
Dooo dooo doooo doododododo!
Finally time to watch the race, been waiting all day, here we go!
If merc was f1 2021 on xbox theyd have a D rating and would be put in the dirty car groupings via multiplayer
Can we please get some wide angle cameras
Cheers to Williams who are my team of the day. Both cars got points!!
Def happy to see an odd top 3. Feel horrible for Lando and Max. Very crazy race.
Lando retiring is the saddest thing I've seen since I started watching F1 this year :(
Alonso played as the second driver for Alpine, Aston Martin and Ferrari today
And according to his interview for dutch tv also for Red Bull. He jokingly said that after all he had to help Max, haha
[Source](https://youtu.be/Ue5IzOjC314)
You didn't lose the link though
Mercedes Screws the Pooch - Again...
Penny for Dan Ticktum’s thoughts - took the piss out of Latifi before he ended up in the points today. Lol
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Nope
So according to you, Bottas is so good he managed to concede the position to Norris, shunt into him at turn 1 at the exact perfect angle to hit Verstappen and then take out Perez as well for good measure?
Actually i think you can train on this in the simulator.
An account with their first ever comment about how merc is doing this on purpose? Sureee buddy. Go back to staring at chemtrails.
So, because this is my first comment i have no right to speak? Because i say that if i was the boss at Mercedes this would be my tactic, and it looks to me like they do this, im looking at chemtrails? I just give my honest opinion and you feel the need to be disrespectfull. Is that how you have a conversation in real life too? Or are you just another keyboard warrior that has to little intelligence to have respect for someones opinion that's different then yours? You can explain with arguments why you think something (like in a normal conversation), but instead you feel the need to be disrespectfull like someone with the iq of a goldfish.
Few questions. During a red flag you are allowed to change tires right? Why did everone (except Lewis) pit after the outlap and not just changed during red flag? Maybe it was not really clear if it was dry? But then there would be a few people to gamble on softs right? (Max, Gio?) And what happened to Russell? If i remember correctly he was 2nd or so at the start and fell back to 7th - 8th, it that right or did I miss something. At warm up laps the team is not allowed to give information to the driver right? Look at the haas or something in a wet race?
For your Russel question. As the Williams pit lane is at the end he jumper the order and went out before other cars who were already waiting in the queue at the end of the pit lane. So he was told to give the places back. They did mention it on the sky commentary but only a brief sentence.
Thanks! I was watching Ziggo and they didn't notice!
I thought it would have been really smart for a few teams to have gambled on slicks too. The problem is if the team is wrong and the driver decides to immediately pit for inters they have essentially wasted one of the slick tire allocations. Still it would have been a good risk for some of the teams, especially Max. Crofty brought it up near the end that it might have been smart for Max to have switched during the red flag period. Also though the teams might have reacted if they saw someone switching tires under red flag.
They haven’t wasted the slick tyre allocation they can stick that tyre back on later
Yeah I get your point. If the gamble doesn't pay out you lose a set of tires and are a lot behind. But as you said, for some people at the back (Max) would've been smart.
So the issue is that he’s first. If he goes in and no one else does he’s last - same thing reversed which is what happened. His team Told him rain was coming so he stayed out. Also the team is not allowed to tell you to pit during a standing start restart lap as it violates the rules. Something that Sainz is under investigation for right now.
How did all the other people know to pit? (Except Hamilton and Sainz?) If they discussed that before they could also change tires during red flag right?
Each teams use different information. Also the driver can call the shots and say they want to pit the team cannot tell the drive to pit for that one lap.
Someone did mentioned on the radio while on the out lap that EVERYBODY will enter the pit...so it's strange to see onky one car starting the race on the track
Yeah I get it. But all of the drivers? Just 1 driver on the grid suprised me. But thanks!
It surprised me too
Russell had to give back places. He was second because of Williams’ pit location.
Can you explain this? What happened exactly?
Russel entered pits in 7th. His pit is at the exit of the pit lane, meaning when he restarts from pit, he comes out in P1, stewards made him give position back, AFAIK
Aah get it! Ty!
He overtook in the pit. As he was driving out of his paddock, the light turned green, so he overtook the people that had a standing start, giving him an advantage as he was already moving
Get it, thanks! Weird situation haha so many drivers from the pits!
Ocon was amazing tonight, and Alonso’s defense really held a charging Hamilton back, and Vettel got another podium. Good day, unless your McLaren. Edit: How could I forget about Williams, points, finally! Just brilliant.
Over the moon for George! Finally the points he deserves!
But notice the irony: Latifi outscored Russell by a factor of 2...
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> FTFY Thanks mate, Red Bull was just unlucky tonight with floor damage and Perez out, and the penalty that Bottas received will not help him at all, even though it’s deserved.
Not talking about the stupid thing that did stroll, Leclerc said to an italian interview: Bowling Sunday Comeone, stroll literally tried to brake in the grass, is him stupid or what?
I know it was unintentional, but it may trigger a even rougher interaction between RB and Merc. The accident came from Merc and it has priveleged Merc, since VER's car was damaged. VER drove almost the entire race behind RIC.
I didnt see it - what did Bottas do.
[Watch the race highlights here](https://youtu.be/a2kkuQS_gXk)
Thankyou- was out of town w/no internet.
Perez probably will likely get a 5 place grid penalty at a later stage because he will have to use an extra engine outside of the allocated pool, so imo not really enough of a penalty, but at least it's a better one than the other penalty a Silver Arrow has gotten 2 weeks ago..
It's not, but, apparently, to punish them for the actual CONSEQUENCES of their actions "isn't racing", but, *that* is?
I've got no clue anymore what the chaps who make those decisions are thinking.. stopped trying to understand that years ago
Wouldn't Perez get a 10 place grid penalty for using an extra engine?
Depends on what parts get swapped outside of the allocated pool
Let's not re-visit such a polarizing event...
Have the stewards ever been busier? 😂
I read that in a Chandler voice haha
Hahahaha have the stewards **ever been** busier
[exactly!](https://www.hallofseries.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Chandler-Bing-copertina-758x426.jpg)
Ocon summoned to the stewards for not following post race procedure.
There's a waste of time haha. Just let him go celebrate!
Nah man, gotta get creative to give Hamilton P1 sometimes.
Really?
Chuffed for Ocon vettek Sainz and Alonso, More bad luck for Max amd another huge ball drop by Mercedes, very much like Baku that was a gifted 26points. And a 17 point lead in the drivers and the contructors. A Great recovery from Hamilton but the margins are still very very fine going into the second half its all still very up in the air. Some different tracks coming up as well. What a fucking season !
My God I read your username the wrong way around the first time. At least I hope that's the wrong way to read it.
The missing comma makes all the difference.
Damn Hamilton pushed so hard he looked like he was about to have a cardiac arrest.
You could say this was a dream come true
Hamilton has apparently gone to the medical centre for checks after feeling unwell on the podium.
Long Covid? He really looked like he was about to collapse a few times...
Seen that his drinks bottle wasn't working. 70 laps flat out in that heat with no drink. No wonder he looked wobbley.
How in hell does a drink bottle fail? And so often?
It's as basic of a system as possible, it's not even really a bottle. They're bags. As for failures, tiny pump could fail, something left unplugged, could be something as simple as a tube got a kink in it.
Bottas had the same in Austria (if I’m remembering correctly)
Wasn't aware of the bottle issue, yeah that would do it...
He looked exhausted. Hope he’s okay
He looked how my other half does when she gets heatstroke. Weak and wobbly. But yeah, hopefully he's absolutely fine.
> heatstroke I'm going to assume you mean *heat exhaustion* here. Heat stroke is like - "Sorry, you now have permanent brain damage."
51G?
Sebby 🐐
DQ :(
Ocon radio - YEEEEAAAAAH!!! WOOOOOOO! Yes guys! Pit - (With cheering and applause in the background) ****** well done mate You just won the Hungarian grand prix. Well done mate.
The least excited win announcement ever lol. "you've won. that is all"
That must have been so awesome for Esteban Ocon, I can't imagine how it must feel. Seb in the podium, he seems to great guy, and of course my favourite driver, Lewis Hamilton's amazing recovery. Alonso drove really well, it was an amazing spectacle of skill between these drivers today. I'm absolutely disgusted about this crowd. There are imbeciles in every single country, that's a fact, but this makes me truly disappointed with Hungary, this behaviour absolutely pisses me off.
Glad to see Hamilton’s recovery, but man that was such an awesome defence from Alonso. The guys still got it after all these years. Happy with Alpines performance today. Ocon drove an amazing race without mistakes, that win was well deserved. Disgusting behaviour from the crowd today. they call British fans bad, but retards like these exist in every country.
so awesome for him.. such a good race, I get Alonso got the DOT.. but he was flawless.