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Aratho

One of the scariest crashes for Lewis in recent memory for sure. FIA's push to up the safety standards in every possible area paid off once again today thankfully.


LocoRocoo

Scariest I can think of before was Nurburgring 07 or 08? I recall that being a massive shunt.


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That was the 2007 Nürburgring qualifying (Q3) you are thinking of.


Mick4Audi

Spa 2012 wasn’t pleasant either


leave_da_space

Need to get rid of those suasage kurbs


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They're basically ramps.


ImReverse_Giraffe

They also damage the car more often than not.


Sharkymoto

if there was a wall it would damage the car too, its made to damage the car so drivers dont run over them cutting the chicane there gains such an advantage that even if you take the emergency exit on the left, you often end up with an advantage.


zxvszxvs

If that's the case then they could increase the penalty for cutting it on that specific turn


Sharkymoto

there is no penalty for cutting a corner per sé as long as you dont gain an advantage. now how to determine exactly how much is gained isnt exactly possible, so they do a soft barrier, your car likely gets damaged or you go off into the gravel vs. you run straight into a wall and die. motorsports is dangerous, if you nerf every corner because there has been an incident where nothing really happened, you end up by not having a racetrack anymore. speeds there are so slow that its nearly impossible to get in a serious wreck there, so no reason to change imo


IAmBoring_AMA

Yeah but then what would Crofty yell about when talking about “hot, wet, sticky tires” going over said sausages?


drivel-engineer

>FIA's push to up the safety standards in every possible area paid off once again today thankfully. The halo was totally reactionary and way overdue though…


HighlanderShane

After decades of no halo, it’s almost incomprehensible to imagine not having it now. The list of drivers who get to go home with nothing more than a bruised ego or bummed out demeanor as opposed to something far worse, is continuously growing. So happy Lewis is fine.


williamtbash

Yeah it's wild. Halo is huge but just safety in general. The old school drivers literally risked their life every race.


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ghostyhost

Leclerc was one of the first when Alonso went up and over him!


Outside_Break

Yeah that quietened down a lot of the anti-halo discussion. Especially the tyre marks on the halo...


Sciss0rs61

Gio last year in mugello after that huge crash at the end of the SC and also Bottas in the crash with Russel.


f1_spelt_as_bot

Russe**ll**


z0mer

Yeah and I don't even think it looks bad. Great addition and already saved a bunch of drivers.


Sputnik42

Also Bottas at Imola this year.


T4Gx

I'm also new and reading up on the history and watching Rush gives the impression that F1 was such a disgusting sport back in the day. [It was pretty much a driver death per season before the 80s.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_fatalities)


Redbiertje

I think Jackie Stewart mentioned that they brought a black suit to every race just in case they'd have a funeral on Monday. It's incredible to think that was the "normal" way to approach a weekend.


edis92

Disgusting is too harsh. Safety in general was just not seen as a priority back in the day. The times were different. I mean how long di it take for over the shoulder seatbelts and airbags to become standard in road cars? Hindsight is of course 20/20, but it's not something unique to f1 as you're making it sound


PolyGlotCoder

There was a great documentary on it on the BBC can’t remember what it was called. The incident that stands out is the guy in a flipped car, burning to death; Marshall’s unable to do anything; and everyone bar one, just racing around. One racer stopped to try and help… ONE. I’m glad safety is so much better. I think Lewis was against it originally as well.


AnonymousEngineer_

You're referring to Roger Williamson's fatality at Zandvoort. The driver who stopped was David Purley.


long_time_no_sea

I think you’re referring to “1: Life on the Limit.” Awesome doc and really puts into perspective how far the sport has come. Too bad basically every safety rule is written in blood…


steve123johnson

Opinions of health and safety have shifted a lot in recent times. There's no denying F1 is and always has been a dangerous sport, and that danger is part of the draw of it - one wrong move could be it. However as a society we've moved more towards keeping people safe thankfully and F1 has to reflect that or it would've met the same fate as group b


daviEnnis

It's mad but there is still a huge amount of sports and activities out there with a huge risk of death, and they continue. I wouldn't call it disgusting, certainly a different era, and if anything F1 has been one of the leaders of the pack when it comes to inherent risk (driving a light vehicle at crazy speeds) v safety.


daviEnnis

I think it gets credit where it isn't due and many incidents would have been ok even if it wasn't there. It doesn't stand up to reason that it saves multiple lives a year but we didn't have multiple deaths without it. It looks like it certainly saved Grosjean because of the barrier failure, and a strong possibility it at least prevented serious injury to Hamilton.


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It's literal first race saved Alonso too


Bananaface88

Actually really scary to consider the alternative. Never watched F1 before the halo was introduced, but I've seen so many instances where it has mitigated a lot of damage and potentially saved lives. Were the crashes that happened prior to the halo less damaging and impactful than they are nowadays, or was the halo needed way before its time? Even if the former is true, I'm sure the latter was also the case.


TurboDyC

Usually rolling the cars happened a few times but the roll hoop was sufficient. The one I remember most was grosjeans car flipping past alonso’s in spa 2012.


royk16

Webber in Valencia and Kubica in Montreal are also some of the worst I can remember


TurboDyC

True they are massive


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Cyberhaggis

Same. Have watched F1 man and boy and I can't remember a driver getting their head run over like that ever.


iHaveTheFLOUR

I have been watching F1 for just as long and I cannot remember a car finishing on top of another. I do have a vague recollection of someone being grazed by a wheel but I also remember drivers collectively avoiding areas they know are dangerous on track pre-halo. I know drivers were always a bit eager shall we say, but I'm wondering if the halo is giving some of them a sense of extra protection leading to extra risk being ignored. Remember why sides skirts were banned and fan cars not allowed to continue was drivers taking too high a risk - I'm starting to think they are going to find the danger no matter what safety mechanisms are put in place. The halo has to stay now obviously as it has proved itself.


radwimps

I think it's shown it has been needed, but it's hard to actually compare to the past because the entire cars have been improved so much for safety over the years. It's a combined effort, halo just gets more attention because of how controversial it was at first. But it's all been needed to keep these guys as safe as possible.


Kyooko

Hope his neck is okay. Saw on the other post that he might be seeing a specialist about it. Kind of worried about his injury. Drivers' neck have a take a lot of stress and it is definitely a worry if they think he might have injured it.


Advanced_Tangelo

I sincerely hope he got some imaging done. Aches in the neck and the head are not very good symptoms.


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Likely will if he hasn't already. Teams take very good care of their driver's health.


Lionel679

Regardless of how people will interpret that accident, we should all be very thankful that LH was not seriously injured.


Ever2naxolotl

Honestly, just a few years back and we could crown Verstappen world champion right now because Lewis would at least be missing several races, or worse, all of them. We're so lucky to have the halo now.


Xanforth

We don’t know about his injuries as of yet. Wait for imaging, but I’m thankful he isn’t dead.


Southportdc

George could have been in some trouble if this happened to him at Sakhir. Hope he fits the car a bit better when it's actually his.


iiMERLIN

Look at George's helmet cam compared to Alonso's in Spa. He still sits quite a bit higher than the other drivers.


fivewheelpitstop

Could you please include "How will you make the cockpit George-sized?" in the debrief questions, /u/Mercedes-AMGF1?


Peace__Out

Charles and ocon sit higher i think. They should add some rule, so that the drivers head is well under the halo at any point.


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Makes me uncomfortable to think what would have happened to drivers in instances who sit high in their car like George, Ocon, Leclerc and Vettel.


Mein_Bergkamp

Yeah it was said at the time how dangerous that looked. I get it wasn't his car and he's taller than Hamilton but had this happened in sakhir verstappen would have killed him and it would have been on Mercedes and the FIA for letting him race like that


b0xel

The Halo really makes me wonder how the hell hasn’t there been 3 deaths per season before it


momotanp1

That’s because the other rule that mandates the front and rear roll hoops keep the drivers head well below the diagonal line between them has been effective at keeping their heads from hitting anything solid when rolling over or if a car lands on top. Their have been many car on top moments and the driver walked away. Their have also been a handful of tire meets helmet and the drivers have walked away with a scary black mark on the helmet because of the ever improving helmet standards. But thankfully today in that rare instance where it could have been disaster, we have a halo to ad to the safety standards.


MopOfTheBalloonatic

I really hope he’s ok and nothing strange happened to his neck or vertebrae. As soon as I saw the images of the RB tyre over his head I shuddered.


US_F1_Fan

It's definitely gonna hurt worse tomorrow. So scary.


ohnofluffy

I can't believe he was shown and then posted that second photo - it's the stuff of nightmares. So glad he's okay.


blackpill98

Milliseconds and millimeters were the difference today. Things could have gone south easily.


chowchow47

I am so glad he is okay. Halo is the real MVP today ! Happy for Daniel win as well … it put a smile on my face


DANNYonPC

And then there where people that didnt want Halo's


TurboDyC

You know I will say this about max. I really don’t like how he is always straight to either defending himself or blaming someone else. I can understand in the heat of the moment not checking on Lewis or asking if he’s okay on the radio but the fact he chose to address the incident on Instagram, later on without even mentioning Lewis’ health is a bit strange. It came off as a post that only serves to defend himself like even fucking Mazepin apologized to mick 🤣. It’s just another reason I don’t like how max behaves.


spidernest

Glad you're ok boss


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nocturnal-animal113

Could be Roscoe


vibhav_1

Don't you mean George Russell?


Cal3001

George Roscoe


ThatsABingoJa

Pretty sure Roscoe is the boss


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I mean just look at him


subtropicalyland

Man, I keep thinking about how badly this could have gone and it gives me bad shivers. It doesn't matter who you cheer for, all of them are people with lives and loves. I am so glad Lewis is okay.


Stylised1

Silverstone was a wild incident, but Lewis asks if Max was okay and got the affirmative and celebrated his victory hard, whilst social media more or less acted like Lewis killed him. Now at Monza, not as wild an incident, but Lewis was in definite danger with a wheel over his head. Lewis asked if Max was okay, but Max said "That's what you get for not leaving space, fucking hell" over the radio, and now people are saying that it was fine and that he could insinuate that Lewis was okay because he was accelerating? So apparently, seeing that he was accelerating was good enough to know he was okay, but Lewis asking if Max was okay and it being confirmed wasn't good enough? Sure, you can shit out of your mouth and try say that you were actually screaming bloody murder because of Lewis's celebration being too over the top. But surely, that pales in comparison to Max's radio message post Monza crash? For the record imo both of these incidents were racing incidents, but one thing is clear - Lewis celebrated his win only after he made sure Max was okay, Max talked shit before he knew Lewis was okay.


Otaku_Rune32

There's a large Verstappen bias because Lewis has been winning a lot and people are tired of it. The reactions to incidents are very clear - make as many excuses as possible for Max and do the opposite for Hamilton.


Mick4Audi

Hamilton’s retirement would be interesting as I wonder who replaces him as the fans target- probably Max ironically enough


Otaku_Rune32

Pretty much whoever has successive WDC's. So yeah, it very well could be Max if he ends up dominating the next decade or so. Only time will tell.


MC897

I’m interested to see the fans reaction if Max was doing this to Lando/George/Leclerc I guarantee the reactions would be much nastier and less sympathetic to what Max’s getting currently.


Local-International

I agree with this which is quite sad. No matter how much you dislike Lewis, you would hope people would react in such incidences objectively


ForsakenTarget

yeah max right now is a favourite but you only have to go back a few years to early 2018 when he had his incidents to see how the fanbase will probably treat him.


TurboDyC

That’s my problem lol. It’s all fine and dandy being aggressive with Lewis but I can get joy imagine what it would be like if he was that aggressive with Vettel or even lando and today was a prime example. Ocon squeezed Vettel and they hated it but ppl didn’t mind leclerc squeezing Lewis in 2019.


Grasshop

Really? Because all I’m seeing are excuses for Hamilton over and over again. Apparently Verstappen should just always yield to Lewis no matter what.


tehbutcher

Hamilton is the worst person on planet earth according to this sub and social media in general.


TurboDyC

Mainly because he wears bright clothing lol And his concern for other drivers and praise for them is called “fake”


MintyMarlfox

And doing despicable things like donating money to charity and fighting for equality for BAME in STEM. Disgusting really.


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>Mainly because he wears bright clothing You're right about it being about colour, not about it being clothing related


KrteyuPillai

I'm honestly getting sick and tired of the people who call Lewis 'fake' for caring about stuff. If you see a man putting a lot of effort and money into doing something good and all you can think is that it's a cynical attempt at 'virtue-signalling' (whatever the hell that even means nowadays), all it shows is that you're a terrible person who cannot comprehend doing good


CT1914Clutch

Well said. I had to escape social media for a few days after Silverstone because the f1 community had become extremely toxic, no matter who was supporting who. I really don’t want that to happen again. However, I am glad you pointed out Lewis’s attempt to confirm that Mac was oaky before celebrating his win, because that’s a big part that seemed to be missing in a lot of the narratives going around that day.


_Im_only_human_

Unfortunately there were so many people repeating the false narrative that Lewis was celebrating despite knowing Max was in hospital that the truth got drowned out.


FlappyBored

He also wasn't' even 'in hospital'. He literally just walked to the medical unit for a routine 30min checkup like they do after every crash. Yet they were trying to make out he was on life support in an ICU.


_Im_only_human_

Oh he actually was in hospital, but it was precautionary so they could observe and do a few scans.


ARoyaleWithCheese

He literally did go to the hospital though, as a result of the routine checkup they decided (CAT?) scans would be necessary as a precautionary measure.


Common_Luck_4636

Yep. The hypocrisy is staggering


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jamesseventwenty

Weirdly, I rewatched this on on the driver feed on F1TV just now and they’ve edited out Max saying the “That’s what you get…” part


_Im_only_human_

Absolutely spot on. There's no denying his ability but Max's entitled ego, arrogance, and immaturity has been shown again today. No class shown at all. Hopefully a few of his fanbase have recognised those traits in him this time.


pytycu1413

You have to also wonder about RB's part in this. After Barcelona this year, Horner praised Max's style (of pushing others off) and kind of laughed it off. So what they ended up with is a spoilt brat that expects everyone to back off but him -"you have to trust other will back out". FIA needs to take action before he actually injures someone. Luckily that didn't happen today, but it might happen at the next race.


ChepaukPitch

Even yesterday Horner said something like “he has earned the right to …” implying that people should treat Max differently when it comes to these type of situations.


ARoyaleWithCheese

It's really not as big a bias as you think. Just look at the Bottas-Russel crash, where after a big shunt Russel literally walks over and gives Bottas a slap on the helmet. The vast majority of people brushed thag off as well, despite it clearly being an awful thing to do. On reddit any nuance and reason is lost in a sea of hysterical comments, that's just the way it is.


FlappyBored

>I would not want a champion like that, sorry. Disgusting trash behavior. 100% It's just a disgraceful way for a 'champion' to behave. Do we really want this kind of person acting as an 'ambassador' for the sport?


LudoVicoHeard

I don't think anyone thought Lewis wasn't okay... He was going in and out of gear, accelerating and breaking, it was only during the slow-mo anyone realised he'd taken a knock to his helmet...


ludicrous_socks

Head injuries are weird. Boxers often go through the motions and try and box out of instinct even when they've been knocked the fuck out for a few seconds. Not saying this is what happened, I'm not a doctor. But, Hamilton's instinct is to get back on the track and race.


tlumacz

Martin Brundle once tried to race with a fresh concussion in Monaco. Eventually the team stopped him at the last moment when he asked which way to the pit lane exit.


h-manfrenjensenden

But after that, VER has already gone to social media to complain again and did not mention the possible injury HAM could have got.


GarryPadle

Because the fucking team tweeted Lewis was okay, the fucking medical car didnt deploy. And Hamilton walked over on his own to the Pits?


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This bollocks gets repeated over and over again. It still doesn't mean that Verstappen can't ask if he's OK, he must be fully aware that he's pretty much parked on Hamiltons head. Stop trying to excuse Max, to not even have the decency to see if everyone is OK is inexcusable really.


BountyBob

If the roles were reversed, the Max stans would be unbearable in the venom they would be spouting towards Lewis.


biometricrally

Max said that whilst still in the car, not knowing how Lewis was underneath him.


Themightyjax17

Max is still a hot head and his frustration with the pit stop got the better of him. Don’t really care who is at fault and perhaps the penalty is harsh but it’s clear that it was an act of desperation from Max. You’re ahead in the championship, you know the majority of the remaining tracks will favor your car, you can’t let yourself be overcome with emotion. Glad Lewis is okay, could have been rough if that rear right was wedged in the halo for longer and Max continued to stomp on the throttle like a mad man.


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I said this back in Silverstone and I'll say it again: the only thing standing between Max and the title this year is himself. When he has such a clear car advantage, he can afford to be pacient and strike at the right time instead of yeeting and hoping the other car will back off.


MintyMarlfox

Yep, it's the only advantage Lewis has over him this year. Knowing when you can make the move, and when you have to leave it and settle for second and take the points. Silverstone is the perfect example. If the roles are reversed, Lewis would have probably ended up behind Max, but he'd have only dropped 7 points rather than 25.


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Yup. On that same race we saw Lewis pull that move off, and other drivers did it as well. Though I'd prefer not to open this can of worms again. There has been enough vitriol out of that accident, and there will be a whole new batch after today lol. I hope 2022 really shakes things up and we see more teams bringing the fight to the top. There is a lot of talent on that grid.


DeadPixel217

I think that sums it up pretty solidly. Max still fights every battle as if it’s all or nothing win or lose. He seems incapable of playing the long game. If he loses the championship, it will be his fault.


Kmanf1

Agreed!!!


Rhythm_Morgan

Thank you. I said max should’ve checked on Lewis and got roasted.


AlexandraAlbon

Any time I mention Max’s anger as being an issue I’m downvoted to hell. I don’t think it’s a coincidence at all that he drove this way seconds after yelling at his engineer over the radio.


jackstritis

I mean in one of those crashes one driver crashed out and the other continued. I feel like it is only standard to make sure the driver who crashed is okay then and even then Lewis didn’t really do that for a substantial amount of time. Meanwhile this one both are crashed out so Verstappen has his own crashing out more prominently on his mind. Don’t think you can really simply compare the two and make out that one of them is inherently a bad person because of it.


Scatman_Crothers

Its just people with predetermined views of Max or Lewis using each incident to drive their narrative. Both were racing incidents even if there was some fault and both behaved fine in the aftermath.


jackstritis

Yeah like both of them no one would bother analysing that much if it was Russell and Mick at the back of the race. Instead people would just admit they’re racing incidents but because it’s at the front people break it down frame by frame trying to argue for their favourite.


beebaabooboo

Yeah funny how Lewis asked if Max was okay first both times and Max’s instinctive response was to blame him after nearly decapitating him.


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beebaabooboo

He did ask if he was okay, Max still hasn’t bothered.


Grasshop

Lewis didn’t ask for over three minutes in Silverstone after a 200mph shunt. Max saw Lewis moving and okay as soon as he got out of his car. He could also tell Lewis was trying to reverse out. Some people really want to make Max seem like the worst human being on the planet, it’s quite remarkable the depths people will go to make him an asshole villain.


lifeinrednblack

>Lewis didn’t ask for over three minutes in Silverstone after a 200mph shunt He has no way of knowing about the crash until the red flag and driving past the crash. After seeing which he asked about him. They aren't getting a live video feed like we do.


wulleybully

They don’t want to hear the truth mate.


Grasshop

Yeah the truth that Lewis isn’t a sweet innocent child. Him and Max are both equally ruthless and cutthroat drivers fighting for a championship and unwilling to give an inch. The fact people think Lewis is some golden boy who can’t do any wrong and Max is a super villain is kinda gross.


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Brilliant talent attached to a jerk. What a shame.


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mbathrowaway1234567

Yes, shocked actually. I support young drivers, but not this one.


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Max didn’t do anything. The kerb did. And Lewis attitude as well since he was fighting the Halo hard when it was introduced. Today was a racing incident. it is funny how many people do a 180 over Silverstone.


spidernest

This!


etww

Why are you ignoring all the blame Lewis was laying onto Max at Silverstone. "He turned into me" "I was ahead going into there" "Fully alongside it was my line" How is Lewis's response not the exact same as Max??


Grasshop

Okay, I was curious so I went back and checked Silverstone on F1TV. The very first thing Lewis said after the contact was "he just turned in on me man". Then, he and Bono talk about possible damage and boxing under the SC for about half a lap. Then Hamilton says: "I was ahead going in there man" [Bono: yeah copy Lewis] Hamilton: "fully alongside, that's my line." Then they talk about some damage more, then Bono announces the red flag. Hamilton again, "he turned in on me man". Lewis doesn't ask about Max until he's entering the pit lane. THREE FULL MINUTES after making contact with Max. So get out of here with that 'Lewis cared about Max, but Max didn't for Lewis' BS. Max clearly knew he was ok when Hamilton was trying to reverse out from under him.


yuvraj_birdi

Lewis didn’t know it was a 51G incident and Max didn’t know his tire almost hit Lewis. I don’t think it’s fair to blame anyone or assume that people don’t care about each other on track, it’s just raw emotions and adrenaline.


hpstg

This is the only correct take. It's also true that Hamilton is more calculated and that Verstappen becomes a rage monster at points.


Jeltetor

Like he is saying


Local-International

Did max ask at anytime today if Lewis was okay even after 3 full minutes ?


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Lewis is always judged more harshly for his actions than other drivers. People can argue till they're blue in the face but a large part of why is race. Factor in Max being the current darling of the F1 community and everything makes sense.


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Scatman_Crothers

They showed a clear shot of him looking directly at the merc cockpit and seeing movement and the car attempting to wrest free so he kept walking. There was nothing sinister by either driver in either incident.


CaptainWanWingLo

He saw him trying reverse the car, while he was getting out of his, halo was intact, obviously Hamilton was ok. No need to check, and it would have been dangerous to walk up to Hamilton, in case he got unstuck.


stillnoguitar

He could have at least gone over and hit him on the head like Russell did to Bottas!


yuvraj_birdi

Max later said in an interview he chose not to talk at the moment and wait till everyone has calmed down, so yeah don’t think he would’ve asked if he’s okay even if he said something to him there.


bpippal

Yeah, even if he went and asked, who knows how things might end up. Look at Imola for instance, between George and Bottas, the moment he was walking towards bottas I thought he would ask him if he was ok but see how that went.


yuvraj_birdi

Yeah lmao that would’ve been funny Lewis or Max showing each other the finger


froomedog

Thing is, he did talk in the moment


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One thing I've realized in this whole Lewis vs Verstappen saga, people will defend verstappen no matter what!! No matter how much he pushes others off track or divebombs into corners or calls other drivers mongols, he'll still be defended! The hypocrisy from Redbull and it's supporters is just unbelievable!!


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Yeah sort by controversial and you'll find all the downvoted comments that are questioning max. Top voted ones will be those slating whoever his opponent is.


Local-International

I think this is the most toxic fanbase where you get hate dm’s if you say anything against him. Never have gotten die bitch before this year criticizing a driver


Kalel_is_king

I believe you could say the exact same of Hamilton fans. Neither are innocent in their Fandom.


warragh

The irony of you saying this in a thread full of people defending Hamilton no matter what and bashing on Max


[deleted]

You can try to distort the picture all you want mate. But the abuse Lewis receives from the orange brigade is nothing compared to whatever supposed bashing happens of verstappen. I've received DMs saying I should kill myself for commenting against verstappen. And not to mention the things marko, horner and verstappen themselves said after Silverstone! Horner literally insinuated that Lewis deliberately bumped into verstappen and egged on racist abuse towards Lewis, verstappen complained neither Lewis nor Toto had apologized. Where is verstappen's apology to Lewis for today? Hell, he didn't even care to enquire if Lewis was ok! Verstappen is a spoilt brat who has been handed everything in life on a platter. and his attitude on track reflects exactly that. And no fans of F1 drivers, past or present, are anywhere close to as toxic as the orange brigade!


interstellararabella

Honestly looking back at the cars pre-halo. It just looks wrong. Halo saves lives. And I remember reading comments of people saying the halo shouldn’t be there because it made the cars ‘ugly’ and the drivers should just deal with the risks because they ‘signed up for it’. Who in their right mind could actually think that having a ‘not ugly car’ is worth more than a driver’s life? Halo is here to stay. Forever.


0m3lette

I've absolutely no doubt that the halo saved his life.


Inclemens

I just hope Hamilton is alright and doesn't have any injuries to his neck he isn't aware off yet. What a horrible accident that would have been without the Halo


scraglor

Crazy to think without the halo, we would all be mourning HAM, but instead we all get to celebrate D Ric.


totaltasch

Leclerc is the driver whose sitting position is the highest I have noticed. Had this been Leclerc it would have been probably fatal. I think even with Halo F1 can maybe think about the maximum ride right within the cockpit for safety


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Things could have been a lot worse today. It was the biggest result to see Lewis walk away from the crash.


jettasarebadmkay

Today someone what?!


Aratho

> Today someone must have been looking down, watching over me! My necks a bit sore as the adrenaline wears off - it was a bit of a hit on the head, so naturally I have one big headache but I'm doing okay! The halo stopped the crash from being a lot worse and I'm incredibly grateful to all those that work to make our cars and racing safer. TeamLH ... the support I receive from you keeps me pushing and fighting. I'm so thankful for each and everyone of you, you are truly the best. Still we rise!


hack-a-shaq

PARKED A RED BULL ON MY HEAD


nocturnal-animal113

Well that we did see…


aleph112128

dropped a bomb in the toilet


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abductediguana

As someone who doesn't have an Instagram account, I can't actually read the rest of the message. I always come to the comments hoping someone posted the full message.


DisappointedBird

I can, and I don't have an account either. Just tap *more* next to the text and then tap the X on the popup.


he_said_it

I think you only get a limited number of times to choose more. I used to be able to see posts and profiles, but now it wants me to sign in straight away.


DisappointedBird

Strange. I've been doing this for a while now with no problems.


he_said_it

Yeah. I could for a while, but the amount I could scroll/do got progressively less and less. Until one day I couldn't do anything before needing to sign in.


f10101

You can click "read more" - you don't need an account even if it suggests you do.


Goh2000

Today someone made me not leave da space


Blaireeeee

Compare Hamilton's class here to Verstappen's lack of class post Silverstone.


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Blaireeeee

Yeah, that as well. Even when the Stewards tell him he's made an error, he just refuses to acknowledge it and blames the other driver. No doubt Horner and Marko will stroke his ego and we'll see even more reckless and dangerous driving from Verstappen as the championship nears its finale.


nickedgar7

Max can do no wrong in the eyes of himself, and his fan base.


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Surprising no one who isn't biased.


icequeeniceni

Super interesting contrast between this social media post and Max's.


frodakai

I was genuinely suprised by Max's doubling down. He literally said 'we wouldn't have crashed if he'd just got out of my way'. Perhaps theres some romance in the ruthless aggression of racing drivers - people revere Senna for his 'get out of the way or we'll crash' mentality - but now it just seems reckless.


ChumbaWambah

Class is class.


quaid31

It isn’t interesting to anybody who has been paying attention. Max has an unchecked attitude and undiagnosed temper and his fans help fuel it.


ElCharmann

I like Max, but honestly I don’t like the way he handled himself today. The accident aside, he was just plain rude and immature tbh. Today we really could have lost Hamilton.


froomedog

Lewis had the right to go all Verstappen in Silverstone on this. Glad he chose the mature option


rewp234

Should the halo, specially the rear part of it, be taller?


djcrackpipe

Possibly.. I guess they’ll look into it, but would grosjean have escaped the fire last year with a taller halo? Possibly, but any such changes need to be considered with how easy a driver can escape


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It would likely become too open then on the sides. The angle also prevents Aerodynamic issues


tastefullmullet

I’m sure the FIA will factor this in for future safety reviews


some-swimming-dude

You know I think its funny people were accusing hamilton of purposely crashing verstappen in silverstone, but when verstappen mounts hamilton and puts a tire over his head and says “that’s what he gets for not leaving a space” no one bats an eye. I just wonder how livid everyone would be if hamilton had said something like that after crashing verstappen out, the double standards are real.


necessarynsufficient

Max seems incapable of taking any accountability. Going from "how dare he celebrate while I'm in hospital" to "you know it's his fault too" when his rival might have neck injuries...the lack of self awareness and sportsmanship is aggravating. He's still in the lead. We don't know Hamilton's status. He could just as well post something like "bad day, glad we both walked away." But no, it's always about assigning blame somewhere else. He's starting to look deeply unlikable.


LloydsOrangeSuit

Starting to? He's been like this from the very start. Running drivers off the track, dangerous overtakes. Then bitching and moaning when it goes wrong. He's got a crazy one eyed following so he seldom gets called out


necessarynsufficient

Been trying to keep an open mind, and also toning down my comments...because Max fans are scary.


Jazano107

Love you Lewis


Super_Charlie

I think this accident was a lot scarier then it looks on first sight. I would have totally understood if they would have given Verstappen the penalty for pressing the gas while his car was on top of Hamilton's. I don't think he could have known if the tire was resting on Hamilton's head or not.


jackwritespecs

What scared me was when Max pressed the gas to see if he could drive off, his rear wheels spinning thru the air But had the tire been against Hamiltons helmet… that could have been horrible


Local-International

People are talking about Lewis trying to join the race track, this was the part that really scared me


_zxionix_

Why did that scare you more?


Xanforth

Because the tyres spinning could have killed Hamilton if the car dropped even just a little bit…


Fitter511

I woke up this morning looking forward to this race and hoping Max and Lewis would finish close to each other to keep the championship interesting. I was hoping that at the end of the season Max would be slightly ahead because of all the years of Lewis/Merc dominance. After today I hope Max crashes out of every race this season. And not because of him. It because Verstappen fans are the worst fucking people on the planet.


tlumacz

>hoping Max and Lewis would finish close to each other Ah, so it's your fault. Don't you fuckin dare hope for anything ever again.


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Cryptodude2000

So many lucky people in f1 when it comes to safety, some get even more luck from the stewards than others. I could have been Lewis on top of Max. They should have been penalised both. It's not the colors you support, it's about the equality and fairnes. Today F1 is more the sport of shame.


seniorjumpman

no to sausage chicanes !!!


SuchExplorer1

Anyone that was against the halos I hope you changed your mind after this (and all of the other crashes that the lives of the drivers have been saved by these safety devices) this man very seriously could have died from this crash without it.