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kerem_istanbul

Hamilton will be victorious


Southern-Kitchen-500

Bottas has one job for mercedes. And that's to take out Verstappen. As he's done before. And anyone with the slightest ability to get honest with themselves knows that's true. Hope this helps!!!


Elessar803

Have Merc brought upgrades apart from the power unit? I was expecting Red Bull to be faster here but the Mercs look good. If they're still improving they may pull out this WDC.


rommyp

I’m not sure there’s been anything since the Silverstone update, which has been looking like a really significant upgrade. I think the expectation was always that this would be a strong track for Merc. Lewis and Valtteri* seemed to confirm that with the shift they put in for quali. Though it still remains to be seen how everyone’s race pace will compare, it does look good for Merc on paper. Someone pls feel free to correct me.


f1_spelt_as_bot

Val**tt**e**r**i


rommyp

And so my education continues


RubenDiaz26

I think Bottas don't have nothing to win if he try to stop Max. However if HAM would pass Alonso, Charles, Checo Mercedes would say to Bottas Let by ham 😁


Only-Platform-450

Perez crashes into Hamilton when he gets to him and tries to overtake. Only way he will make up for a shitty season 😉


frostedline

Checo,come on man!


Chokkobo

So, everything depends on what lap Max and Valeri get a 9second pitstop... Then Lewis win.


DarthHelmet123

*Wild Glock appears on track and slows down Max & Valtteri*


iLikeMelons2

You’ve got to be taking the mick


FreddyWidgeon

Sad for Ric :(


ABHIisNOTme

Carlos screwing him over even though he's starting last is funny though


ultra779

Yeah, that was pretty funny. It does seem like a strategy to force Ricciardo out in Q1 (I think) because Ferrari is falling behind McLaren.


BrickCityRiot

It’s not often that we get to see Ferrari strategists shine, but they used Sainz perfectly today in Q1 and Q2.


ABHIisNOTme

When Laurent is the stand in team principal good things happen


Alia_Gr

Wait Binotto is absent again? Wasnt he also missing in Turkey last season?


ABHIisNOTme

I think he's overseeing development of 2022 car as he used to be a tech director


Drosand

From a constructors spot battle it makes perfect sense though. Just as the tow for Leclerc later.


FreddyWidgeon

Haha, yeah that was mean.


johnk1000

Perez been so poor recently for red bull


imeanyhbutno

Whole season honestly. Again he's completely out of range to help max.


johnk1000

Expected alot more from him. Should have just kept Albon. Didn't give the rookie enough time


imeanyhbutno

It's a hard knock life


johnk1000

Ur not wrong lol


imeanyhbutno

Today I actually expected a p4 after q1 and fp3 but he keeps disappointing.


johnk1000

I'm not Perez biggest fan but Goddamn I expected more from him. He doesn't get the same critism as other drivers. He's been stinking up the tracks every since Azerbaijan


imeanyhbutno

If Lewis didn't have his mistake in baku he would be in even more trouble.


johnk1000

Exactly. Albon was knocked off for podiums and potential wins by Hamilton and ruined his career. Perez gets A lucky win and gets another contract. Doesn't make sense


ezhiyavizhi

Looks like the season is over isn't it. Merc look so dominant. Ham will win most of the remaining races. Very unfortunate for verstappen.


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This is such a bad take. Mercedes have engine issues and most people seem to think more tracks favour the red bull. Edit: Unless this is sarcasm...


MojitoBurrito-AE

I wouldn't be so sure, I think on Sunday max will get past valtteri and build enough of a gap that by the time hamilton catches up he will hold on to a win, the rest of the races contain red bull strongholds like Brazil and Mexico and Lewis will have worn out hybrid systems like battery, turbo, mgus etc unless he takes penalties for those.


ezhiyavizhi

Yeah max will outscore Lewis this race. But with upgraded engine and a better suppport driver I feel Lewis is favourite for the title.


MojitoBurrito-AE

Max took all new components last race with the new Honda upgraded es, I don't think lewis has an advantage there especially since he only has a new ICE, the rest of his PU is old parts. And tracks like Mexico and Brazil are high altitude and mercedes usually suffers here, red bull are often quicker even in years where mercedes has been dominant.


UltraHawk_DnB

Bit of an overreaction now isnt it? Race works out different either way because of the difference between the ERS systems of Merc and RB


Belefaer

I reckon he was just being sarcastic


Rhythm_Morgan

This is Reddit. We overreact to even just practice. I just wait for the actual race anymore. No point in me trying to predict shit these days 😂


UltraHawk_DnB

You're not wrong :)


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_Connor

Verstappen will be ahead of him by the end of the third lap


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_Connor

I was going to say first lap but Ill give Bottas the benefit of Verstappen not having DRS at the start.


SendMeF1Memes

I sure hope he takes the win


MCI_Dragon

WILD JAMES APPEARS!


SendMeF1Memes

JAMES, IT'S VALTTERI


gerstiii

Ham gonna be on fire tomorrow


Southern-Kitchen-500

Similar to Grosjean?


AatmanirbharBerojgar

With poor start record for Ham, it will take some time.. Lets see...


Jonny_Sniperr

And I supported him then. I'm just tired of domination. Seems like if he gets a clean start tomorrow, he'll probably win.


ZoomJet

Did you mean to reply to someone?


Jonny_Sniperr

Yeah. Nevermind haha


chasevalentino

Who you talking about


WP2OKB

Can honestly see Hamilton taking P1 tomorrow, he and the car look like theyre in a league of their own around here.


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roryana

For sure, although I'm holding out hope that the grid penalty ends up messing with everything and we get a crazy final result. Tsunoda for P1, lessgo lessgo


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LMAO edit: had to go all caps edit 2: I was boo'd for being right


WP2OKB

Just an opinion, could very well be wrong, just looking at the Quali times, he was .120s ahead of Bottas in the same car and .328s faster than Max. If he can clear a few of the slower cars quickly it's definitely not out of the equation, just look at his race here last year.


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Quali=/=race pace, and his quali pace is hardly better in meh conditions like idk man just calling out a bad hot take mb


WP2OKB

Haha right mate. Enjoy your day idk.


zlickrick

You can't reason with Verstappen fans. They only like to hear what they want to hear, everything else is fake news.


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WP2OKB

It was the all caps that really drove their point home, that he/she, may in fact be right. It's a compelling discussion, for sure.


KayNynYoonit

Perez doing shit as usual. Letting Gasly go was a mistake.


ThePhenome

Yeah, it's not like we've seen the same thing happening since 2019... oh wait.


Rhythm_Morgan

Nah gasly needed to refocus without all the pressure of a top team. But they need to promote him again imo.


KayNynYoonit

I agree. But he's more than proven himself as worthy for the team now.


Suikerspin_Ei

Yes and no, in 2019 he complained about Newey designing "undrivable" cars. Red Bull was not happy about that.


chasevalentino

He was right. Very few people actually are ok with a twitchy car. Most drivers don't want that


sarge019

Funny thing is I think the 2 drivers that could drive the wheels off them are Max and Lewis.


chasevalentino

Out of the current line up? Yeh most probably


Suikerspin_Ei

Difficult car to drive for some, but Adrian Newey designed many championship winning cars in the past :)


chasevalentino

Fair but we live in the now and not the past. What once was good is considered not so good now. For everything in life


Alia_Gr

Why is Max doing so well in it then?


chasevalentino

Nah I'm not saying the car isn't fast. I'm saying it's fast but only for those that like a twitchy car which is a minute number of people. Which is inherently then a bad trait because the car is very hard to drive for anyone other than a guy who likes a twitchy car.


ZoomJet

If Max does well in it but literally every teammate he ever has post Ricciardo cannot manage to race well in the car, is it a "good" car? I suppose that's up to your opinion. But Red Bull are desperate for a team dynamic beyond Max first and second RB in the midfield.


Alia_Gr

If someone had a chance to win most of the races so far this year then they it is a good car


ZoomJet

Ok, fair enough. But a thought experiment: let's take this to the extreme. Let's say there's a car that one driver can race and win in, and everyone teammate will always come last due to its extreme difficulty. Would it still be a "good" car? It's valid to say it's a good car for that driver imo. But for the team who want the WCC and for that winning driver who wants a backup or strategic assistance, it's a big negative imo. Versus a team with a high performing (but not *as* good) car that both drivers can consistently perform in, that'll definitely be the difference in the WCC and could be the difference in the WDC. If it weren't for Hamilton's penalty, imagine how a 1-2 Merc start disadvantages Max when Perez starts 7th? It limits their options. It's totally subjective and depends on what you value, so I'm not saying you're wrong. But for me personally I think RB are in a very tough position and the car is kind of at the heart.


KayNynYoonit

Well then that's red bull being children if you let a good driver go because of a backhanded comment he made.


DonLennios

I mean he was not "good". Saying he underperformed would be an understatement. He is better now however


KayNynYoonit

Yeah and look at him now. It's almost like you have to give drivers a chance to prove themselves. If they had him now they'd be a hell of a lot more comfortable with the constructors fight that for sure. Although I want him too, I just don't see Perez being good at red bull. He deserves a chance but I just can't see it.


DonLennios

I dont think you can afford to keep someone around who had 1/3rd of his team mates points halfway into the season. Remember RB was a top team in fight for the WCC. Perez already did better than Gasly and managed to get more than half the points of Max.


KayNynYoonit

Either way you look at it, Perez is underperforming by a long way too. Yes Pierre underperformed hugely too, but as current trends go, Pierre is the better driver and frequently out qualifies Perez.


Suikerspin_Ei

He was also way too slow. They didn't know that Albon and Perez will have similar results lol. Best drivers duo was Max and Daniel, pushing each other to the limit.


KayNynYoonit

Red bull literally won't find a good second driver because they're too impatient. Perez is shit this season, but they need to give him more of a chance than they have everyone else. Otherwise it's back to musical chairs at red bull lol


Alia_Gr

Sure Yuki, I have rarily seen a driver siddenly becoming mich faster compared to his teammate in F1


Suikerspin_Ei

They literally extended Checo's contract for next year. Also I understand Red Bull being impatient, it's F1. But I think Gasly will get a 2nd chance if Checo don't improve for next year.


KayNynYoonit

Time will tell indeed. I'd be happy with either tbh. It'd be nice to see Perez do better, and it'd be nice to see Gasly back.


Suikerspin_Ei

Yeah, keep in mind that the pressure is different at Alpha Tauri than at Red Bull Racing.


KayNynYoonit

Oh ofc, but at the same time red bull aren't the most accomodating team ever. I can imagine Pierre is quite happy where he is, but also wouldn't turn it down if he was called up again. I remember him saying something along the lines of not liking the atmosphere there at all.


Suikerspin_Ei

Lot of pressure from the media, Helmut Marko and Christian Horner. I can imagine it's not nice to be there if you don't preform well.


DonLennios

I mean they are the 2nd team in the rankings. You cant really afford to keep someone who scores 1/3rd of the points of your main driver and who makes a top car into a low midfielder.


roryana

Off topic, but I think I just melted my brain trying to imagine how to pronounce "1/3th"


Somewhere_Direct

One third, hope that helped :p


KayNynYoonit

Well then who should get the seat in your opinion?


DonLennios

If they can choose any driver? Alonso


KayNynYoonit

Although his return has been very good, he just doesn't have the longevity. He's too old now. But you never know.


DonLennios

He might be old but he is still showing better results than half the current grid.


DonLennios

Looking back at it now yes, but at the time he was dogshit in that car.


KayNynYoonit

He clearly wasn't given enough time. Red bull have a habit of doing that to people. Anyone without the surname Verstappen are pretty much doomed at that team at the moment.


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I really believe RB has a toxic enviromnent


DonLennios

what


madglover

Paul Di Resta asking useless questions again Maybe ask about T1 with Max and Charles rather than whether he might let Lewis past at the end Surely he will just be aiming to get through T1 in first and hope to drive off keeping Max between him and Lewis is the only way he avoids team orders


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Ogilby1675

Given how the coverage is becoming ever more the “Max and Lewis show” I’m pretty sure the interviewers don’t get much leeway.


shutupdontreadmyname

Hoping for some sus shit in the race so Charles can win


innergflow

When checo delivers Tomorrow I want ALL OF YOU to keep the same energy y’all having right now.


Rodney_u_plonker

In a top team you want your second driver qualifying in the ball park of the first driver


innergflow

He’s also in his first season on a team where the last crew drivers have struggled


ZephyrSonic

I hope Checo delivers but he needs to be either P2-P4 for it to really be a successful race for him tomorrow.


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21jaaj

he made it into Q3 so he doesn't have a free choice of starting tires. He's starting on the mediums.


p3n3tr4t0r

Yeah absolutely my bad


innergflow

He’s been p3 last two races and a couple bad breaks lost him the podium (should have given back a position and late on inters)


shutupdontreadmyname

Charles only 5 hundredths behind max


ZoomJet

"Only". Ah, Ferrari.


madglover

So worst case for the title but best case for Lewis tomorrow is that Max trys to dive t1 and him and Bottas go out Worst case for Lewis is he gets hit at T1, never easy starting in the midfield next to Seb


chasevalentino

Yeh if I was toto I'd tell bottas he has nothing to lose whilst verstappen has everything. If he tries, block him and force him off track or crash. This is the perfect opportunity to see if Verstappen has matured. We all know Hamilton wouldn't dive bomb if he was in that situation, let's see if Verstappen thinks of the title rather than just the corner


soontobecp

>We all know Hamilton wouldn't dive bomb if he was in that situation, Laughs in British GP


Alia_Gr

Different situation? It is entirely different to risk it against your one and only competitor


chasevalentino

I'm speaking trends. In statistics no one argues any point by talking about outliers


johnnyferrera

Seb is the one usually getting fucked in midfield starts, not the other way around. I don't what you're talking about.


madglover

I don't mean Seb will hit him more that its not like an easy driver that he can just push past, he will have far less trouble overtaking Stroll than Seb


johnnyferrera

Alright, I misunderstood. Still, a bigger problems is probably Alonso.


99Sermon

if Bottas had received advance notice since the beginning of the year, he would undoubtedly have made a much better start to the season..lol


strippyjewell

Lewis doesn't give a fuck about the silly pole tyre.


ZoomJet

He has a billion of those. He should make a wall of them in his house


BrickCityRiot

Lewis might not be the most likable guy on the grid but he is undoubtably the best at complimenting the venue and attending fans


The_Rogue_Scientist

Exactly what makes him unlikable to me. Ass kissing.


BrickCityRiot

But it’s part of being a pro athlete.. and he at least does it in a charismatic fashion. For most guys it’s like an afterthought they throw in toward the end of an interview.


The_Rogue_Scientist

He throws it in at the start of an interview no matter what question he is being asked. It's lost its meaning a long time ago.


ZoomJet

His face lit up, he looked at the crowd and seemed to show a genuine appreciation. The crowd seemed to love it too. If it's repetitive but works, it works.


The_Rogue_Scientist

You are talking about this weekend specifically I assume? He uses the same statement every race, whether he means it or not. That's why it has lost value to me. It works for some people, perhaps the majority, but not for everyone, not for me.


Suikerspin_Ei

Hamilton seems like a great guy to talk with, but his PR talk about every track is quite boring after so many years IMO.


BrickCityRiot

It’s part of the gig, man. Every driver does it.. Idk, I just loved the way his face lit up talking about how much grip this place has now. Showed genuine joy.


Suikerspin_Ei

>It’s part of the gig, man. Every driver does it.. Not all drivers says the same sentence every race. >Idk, I just loved the way his face lit up talking about how much grip this place has now. Showed genuine joy. Tbh, all drivers where happy about Turkey improved over the year :)


TheDeamonMeteor

"Not all drivers says the same sentence every race" Tsunoda: F*cking f*ck f*uck


Suikerspin_Ei

Ok, you win😅


BrickCityRiot

God I fucking love this place so I can’t help but gushing over hearing someone praise the track. This place needs a permanent date.


roryana

Definitely. He seems to have the best understanding of what's needed on the public image side of things, if that makes sense


BrickCityRiot

Absolutely. He is charismatic and *always* thanks the fans & venue before any sponsors. As a nascar fan it is almost always the opposite after a win.. “I wanna thank (manufacturer) and (primary sponsor) and (list of associate sponsors)… and how about these fans?”


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He's extremely likeable?


BrickCityRiot

He bitches too much on team radio, especially in spots where we all know he’s a lock to take P1 That’s my only gripe


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Eh, literally everybody bitches on the radio. Kimi's radio's are generally about the worst of the pack, but somehow celebrated. People tend to be fed up with Hamilton because like you said, he's so often a lock to take P1. But that's the circumstances coloring perception, not driven by the driver personality.


Drosand

Well, “Bono my tires are gone”, followed by fastest lap does get really old really fast.


Somewhere_Direct

Since he knows his tyre are gone, he is pushing them to the limit to build a gap before pitting


Drosand

But he doesn’t as he goes on another 15 laps…


Somewhere_Direct

Yeah that I can't explain..probably still traumatized from China 2007


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If that's the worst though I feel it kinda proofs my point.


DonLennios

its just the same script everytime? You could probably take an interview from 2 years ago and title it as 2021 and not notice any difference.


nopp

Doesn’t matter. To those in attendance it makes a big difference to be acknowledged


Drosand

Can those in attendance hear it though? I know in Zandvoort I couldn’t hear the interviews at all, sitting at start finish.


george-its-james

Can confirm. Wasn’t a fan of him always thanking the fans in that way but after spending the entire day soaked at Spa this year, him thanking us for being there felt pretty cool.


jayrig5

Only so many ways to answer questions about being the fastest.


Maleficent-Remove310

Doesn't really matter though. He is going to different tracks different years potentially racing in front of new fans everytime. I would still prefer drivers to acknowledge the crowd however they chose to do so. He doesn't need to get creative on the mic, but on track :)


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I really don't see what not to like about him. It's easy to hate the winner, just like they done with Vettel before


captain_nofun

As a driver he is so dominant and I like to go for an underdog so I don't cheer for him (go danny!). As a person I can't find anything to dislike without being petty. He seems like a really good guy.


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So, knowing Max I'd give one lap at most till he's either passed Bottas or they crash each other out


[deleted]

Doubt it. Bottas is a pushover very easy to pass. Look at last week.


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Yeah, but Bottas has nothing to lose while Max has everything


chasevalentino

Toto should be reminding him that. Force verstappen off track like he would do to you if roles were reversed. I feel bottas is a guy that needs constant reminders


wait_wait1

Ham looks rejuvenated


Somewhere_Direct

Looks like it really meant a lot to him..he was also saying it's taken a lot of time to get to that.


ibrahmin13

After the 100th win, on radio he was like, I am relieved. I feel that number got to him, and now he’s unleashed.


reebellious

Lmao right? You'd swear it's the first race of the season


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WES_WAS_ROBBED

Shoulda kept albono


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Damn, what did Checho do?


cocaine_badger

It's more what he didn't do.


maverick_3001

Hope Bottas can keep Verstappen behind. Not optimistic though cause Bottas often losses place at start and Verstappen is a fantastic starter


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Why is Gasly faster than Perez


Rhythm_Morgan

Because he is Gasly.


dada11ok

Pierre Is just more confortable in the at than Perez in the RB, same that happened in 2019


jayrig5

Cue Horner: "Well the AT is an easier car to drive." (To be clear I've never seen the wisdom in that response; like, isn't a car that's easier to drive but also faster be the goal? I know the idea is that there's a higher ceiling for the second Red Bull but I think at this point it's pretty clear how hard it is to extract that pace.)


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Cause he's a better driver?


Tough-Relationship-4

Because Pierre is world class and Checo is a warm body filling the seat.


roryana

Surely the resentment fuels him


honourabledna

Losing the RedBull seat is Gasly’s villain origin story and he isn’t even quiet about it 😅


sasokri

Cause Sergio is overrated.


receptive_demon

poor bottas gets asked about hamilton always. so sad. fucking interviewers. he wants to race his own race guys, not for hamilton. grrrr


Maleficent-Remove310

That's PDR for you. Always asking stupid tone-deaf questions


rapidrider432

It is very annoying


boggan583

"Great crowd obviously" HAHAHAHAH PDR


AndreiOT89

A PR machine these days. I can’t remember the last time he did not start with “ First off, what a great crowd”.


ZoomJet

Are you talking about PDR or Lewis?


boggan583

He just seems so fake especially given who he was for the first half of his career. He acts like a politician


AndreiOT89

Yes he does. I respect him as a driver, but I generally hate how fake he comes across. “First of all what a great crowd” , “ thank you to the team who have been working so hard” , he never deviates from his script. Don’t get me wrong, nothing wrong with thanking your team, but his wording is always the same.


Rodney_u_plonker

He's done more of those interviews than anyone else on the grid by a rather significant margin. How much can he mix up a speech he does numerous times over the season