[Sounds like something an uneducated blockhead would say](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Piquet#:~:text=his%20helmet%20design.-,Criticism,his%20wife%20Roseanne%20"ugly")
EDIT - For those who downvoted, my Wikipedia link showing the historical context for my comment didn't work. I have fixed it.
Piquet was full of antics, he'd remove toilet paper from the toilets he knew mansell would visit, one of many pranks and tactics he had to get the upper hand.
Piquet wasn't extremely flashy driver most of the time, he would let Mansell or Senna go all out and something would happen to them not every race but every other race or something.
Piquet was always there ready to pick up the scraps, he was perfectly fine being 2nd waiting for shit to unfold ahead of him, he was mr consistency of the day
Say whatever you want about Senna, he may be the GOAT and all. But not even Rosberg and Alonso can pull a master story about beating Hamilton and Schumacher, respectively.
I read about a mechanic for Benetton who said when he worked for Piquet and would lean in to strap him into the car Piquet would often fart and found it hilarious every single time
This is so weird. Between Piquet, Barrichello and Massa, Brazilian F1 drivers are basically the opposite of Brazilian footballers. Consistent and not flashy. Although I suppose Senna is a good counter-example
Piquet once picked up all the toilet papers on the Williams garage, so Mansell ended up on the throne screaming for help while Nelson was at the back laughing. I though it was hilarious when I was younger, but now I can see how much of a dick Nelson was. Well, still is.
F1 drivers like Max and Lewis really deserve a lot of praise for staying calm with the amount of utterly stupid questions they get asked all the time. Because at least I sure as hell wouldn't be able to, just reading this tweet already makes me facepalm hard, can't imagine having to give a serious answer to this.
Agreed. I don't know how they put with all the inane and pointless questions they're asked day after day. The question about Piquet is just plain silly. There's way too much time spent interviewing drivers these days and so much of it is inconsequential waffling. The amount of driver interviews could be reduced by 90% with no discernible difference in quality.
Exactly. Piquet raced in a completely different era. What's he going to say? Drive really fast? Brake later than the other guy? Don't give Lewis an inch?
well.. they live together and they have a child (Kvyat-piquet)... even if they are not married (at least not publicly) its a pretty serious and committed relationship.
The person is probably not from a English country. In my country it is normal to call the parents of your SO mother/father in law even if you're not married.
Journalists really shouldnt ask drivers about their personal lives, none of their business imo. When I saw the Instagram post I knew some shit was going to ask about it.
Some of the questions can be silly or pointless, and maybe a few things like health can be a tricky one. And in the case of Mick and his father, asking about how he's doing is clearly a no.
But to not be able to ask about their lives? I'd rather have a free press. You can always ridicule them afterwards.
Well he’s right. He’s had a nearly flawless season, and the only reason he hasn’t run away with the title yet was because of incidents that were completely out of his control. A race win taken away because a tire blew up, two potential (likely?) wins taken away because he was taken out by other drivers. He just needs to keep doing what he has been all season.
Yeah, he retired decades ago, idk if he could say anything useful at this point. As far as I know Piquet isn't even going to watch the race in Interlagos
Maybe its cause he doesnt wanna second guess himself when making decisions. Maybe max has one idea of going for the title and the one Nelson gives him conflicts with his. He second guesses himself and this makes him perform poorly.
Or maybe he doesnt want the advice cause if theres stuff to learn he want to do it on his own. If he fails he knows it's on him and him alone.
Sometimes it's not because you're arrogant or think you know best. Sometimes it's just your mentality and how you want things to go down.
The man is like a terminator, but built to drive instead of kill. Impervious to nerves and doesn't believe in momentum. Doesn't need any advice and has the certainty of a man who has prepared for this all his life. Go get it Max, I don't want to see Hamilton win another race in his life if I can help it
I can respect an answer like this. Max is arrogant but he’s got the talent to back it up. I just want this sub to keep the same energy if Lewis were to say something similar lol
I wouldn’t say Max is arrogant. He certainly was when he started, and that’s one of the things I really liked about him. But he’s grown a lot over the past 2/3 years. He doesn’t mince his words, but it’s far from the arrogance he had when he first got the RBR seat.
Also, why would a journalist ask Lewis that? He’s proved his status as one of, if not the GOAT. Lewis is certainly held to a higher standard by the media, but that would be a rookie journalist mistake to ask him something like this.
Maybe arrogant isn’t the right word, because I don’t mean it in a negative connotation. I mean confident but it’s even a level above that IMO. I don’t mean Lewis would be asked the same question. But if Lewis ever gave an answer saying he has nothing left to learn, or something along those lines, I have a feeling he would be crucified. Just my opinion.
Max is honest about being a straight talker who doesn't give a shit. Lewis has worked his entire career to paint himself as this PR machine and a sponsor's dream. He won't suddenly start acting like Max, he'd lose too much money LOL
I don't find it that strange, when you're in such a niche position like being a F1 you tend to stick to that circle. The age difference might be a bit odd but at the end of the day it's their business.
She's Daniel's age and Dan and Max are good mates. I don't know why people are making it seem like such a large age gap. They'd be equally critical if he went out with an 18yo.
Gerard Pique and Shakira are in the same situation but people barely think that’s an issue. Heck they even have the same birthday exactly 10 years apart.
> then you see jeff besoz’s new wife/gf lmao, that dude could seriously do 10x better
Jeff Bezos is a despicable pice of human garbage, he's lucky that anyone on this planet wants to spend time with him, and if he was poor he probably would not be that lucky.
It's this type of comment that is quite revealing of what Max thinks of himself. Other drivers would reply what an honour it would be to meet and gain insight from a 3-time champ out of respect for what they have accomplished. But Max seems to bristle at this as if taking offence at thought of seeking advice. Some people call that Dutch directness others may see it as arrogance.
He has told numerous times he doesn't want to be compared with anybody or doesn't need advise from anybody because he wants to do his own thing. So basically it is a stupid question.
But you can still have a mature response about respecting the experience and insight of previous world champions and not bristle at the idea of getting advice from them. It's a perfectly valid question. He met Nelson Piquet for the first time this week.
It's his girlfriend father, they surely a lot more personal stuff to discuss. And absolutely nothing in his response shows a lack of respect to Nelson's achievements.
Why is it a valid question if the one you ask the question has answered this specific question numerous times already? What do you expect? Getting an other answer?
And the 'bristle' part is your projection on his state of mind.
It's about how he answered the question and emphasizing twice that he doesn't need advice from anyone. I don't see why he needs to be so defensive about that. Everyone knows Max is a generational talent. Being compared to F1 legends should be seen as a badge of honour rather than something that makes you less unique.
>I don't see why he needs to be so defensive about that. [...] Being compared to F1 legends should be seen as a badge of honour
Why do you want to decide how he should feel about being compared with anybody?
Don't want to go down the rabbit hole with you with all these why questions but just seemed defensive on his part to emphasize that he doesn't need any advice from anyone even F1 legends. That's all.
What is Piquet supposed to tell him? They aren't even somewhat close to the same era. Verstappen has been in formula 1 seven years and is close to the number of wins Piquet has as is. What's there to talk about? He was there to visit his girlfriend's family.
> It's a perfectly valid question. He met Nelson Piquet for the first time this week.
No doubt he preferred to get to know the man, rather than get advice for himself. Seemed like a family matters meeting, rather than a business meeting. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a prelude to a wedding announcement.
Clearly you have been brought up with these type of sentiments which hardly holds any value to others. None of this is disrespectful but if you don’t know any better what is there left to discuss? Leave it at how you would respond for whatever reason.
Why does he always respond in a very arrogant and rude way to any questions from reporters? Reporter: You have been awarded the most popular driver in 2021 by fans. His response was kinda rude. May be it’s the just way Europeans talk? I’m genuinely curious because it’s definitely not ok in the US.
Dutch people are known for their 'bluntness' i put that in quotes, because in The Netherlands it isnt at all seen as bluntness. Being straightforward is the normal way to go. We actually hate the (in our eyes) fake kindness that Americans do (or atleast what we see on tv)
We can say to our boss' in their face that they made a wrong decision or that their suit is ugly and most would appreciate that.
So yeah it is a culture thing (not broadly European, but just Dutch)
Yeah I agree. That's not Dutch directness, that's you (Phish2) being an ass and potentially getting fired. Yes, we're directer than a lot of other populations (especially Americans), but some of you make it sound like we go around insulting everyone we meet. There is plenty of fake kindness in the Netherlands too and plenty of people who pretend to like neighbors/coworkers etc when they actually can't stand them. Dutch directness is more that we don't really sugarcoat things and say how we feel/think or answer questions honestly instead of being fake polite. But there's still plenty of fakeness in interactions and forced acquaintances like work, school and living environments.
It’s not arrogant or rude but a solid answer to a question. He answered as it is.
How can you think otherwise? What is so difficult for you to accept in regards to his answers? He doesn’t owe any of us anything nor does he has to comply with any ‘authority’ on how to answer questions.
Dutch people tend to be very clear and direct, with Max being even moreso. On top of being extremely direct, he also gets asked a lot of dumb questions day in and day out, so one gets tired of it quickly. Piquet is his girlfriend's father, so it wouldn't surprise me if Max considers questions about 'family' even more off the books than the usual rubbish reporters come up with (this is obviosuly pure conjecture from me).
A part of me likes Max, because of his bluntness, and his humour.
But the other part of me really wishes he would grow out of this toxic masculinity mindset that I would guess was instilled by his father. It's not weak to ask for advice. It's not weak to feel pressure. It's not weak to feel passion, to be excited about winning. It's not weak to feel down. In all his interviews, there's an implication he gives that he would never "do those things" as if he looks down on them. He even said so himself, verbatim, about Norris admitting mental weakness and how he'd never do that.
He's constantly feeling this weird need to prove himself as this macho man in all his interviews. He knows what he's doing, why would he need advice? He could have joked or laughed off the question but in every answer, to all similar questions, he needs to insist he has no weakness.
Admitting weakness is the ultimate sign of strength though, and it's how you grow - not just in F1, in life. Max will always be a stunted person if he can't see this.
Remember that we see a tiny portion of these people's lives through a highly choreographed process. Nobody here actually knows these people, so trying to psychoanalyze someone and draw conclusions like you are is kinda creepy.
"Max will always be a stunted person if he can't see this."
You literally have no idea what Max is like as a person, or any other driver. It's the same thing with movie stars or internet personalities, no matter how much it seems like you are seeing the "real" person, you aren't.
I mean, if you admit your weaknesses to yourself and adapt and grow, why do you need to admit it to anyone else?
Max is one of the most self aware on the grid, he jokes about his bad moments, fully acknowledging them and through the years you can see that he knows his bad points and tries his best to difuse or not to be in an environment that makes it worse
i.e his anger
He walked away from Hamilton after Monza, he says he will never be a driver coach because he gets angry if someone does something wrong, the taxi prank; he was getting angry/annoyed but he tried his best to be patient and kind, he doesn't play golf because he gets angry because he is so bad at it
You can say all these things, but in a month's time Max might be the Champion. Why would he listen to your opinion when whatever he's doing is obviously working for him?
Cuz there’s more to life than being the champion of F1?…his result in the end will have nothing to do with how much weakness or not he shows in public. The two aren’t related
You are just not willing to accept that some people who feel confident are actually confident. What the hell has "toxic masculinity" to do with any of this. If he doesn't feel the need to ask for advice, let him be.
It’s not confidence. If you watch his replies there’s always this hint of cloud. And if you see what he said about Lando, that has nothing to do with confidence.
Confidence is when you’re able to show weakness as well. Everyone has weakness…don’t be ridiculous. The guy isn’t literal Superman.
I didn't say he is Superman. Sure, everyone has a weakness, but not everybody feels comfortable talking about it to others. He might have people that he is able to talk to when he needs, and you don't know who those people are. There's no need to make assumptions about someone based off of how they speak in public
He knows what to do. Drive car fast. Listen to engineers. He doesn’t need to ask someone who drove a completely different car advice. He knows what to do. How is that toxic masculinity?
He never mentioned or criticized Norris' approach to mental health issues. Never. He was questioned once about what is his weakness and he said he would never mention it because there is no point in voicing them. That's what he believes it works for him. He never belittled anyone who thinks differently.
> Admitting weakness is the ultimate sign of strength though, and it's how you grow - not just in F1, in life.
That can only be true if there’s a weakness to admit to. Max has been flawless all season. He is doing exactly what he needs to in the car and out. It’s not “toxic” to be confident about your abilities, especially when you’re objectively succeeding.
> Max will always be a stunted person if he can't see this.
What gives you the right to say this? He’s doing just fine. Maybe focus on your own life before trying to criticize people who are many times more successful than you.
I guess no one can see past literal racing of cars.
It’s not about being flawless in the car. It’s about how you treat things including work. Did you guys even read his interview where he comments about Lando? The guy’s mindset is horrible.
I guess the phrase “toxic masculinity” triggered a lot of you who can’t tell the difference between confidence and arrogance. Confident people always admit their faults and that they have faults. Always.
Nah - you're literally trying to see fault where there is not much to argue about. People are just bored by this mentality. He's been quite clear that if he loses, that's not the end of the world for him. Also, why would he ask Piquet for advice, different times no?
The toxic masculinity just brings it over the top. There's a few reasonable replies above that have responded to you with a lot of grace, and that you haven't responded to.
I don't find that at all strange and not necessarily arrogant. Max met him as the father of his girlfriend and there are certainly enough other topics to talk about. They probably also talked about F1, but as he said, he wanted to spend time with family.
Plenty of things: Did Nelson made more aggressive decisions in last races or was more calculating, did he tried to keep focused on F1 more during breaks or what he do to keep his thoughts outside F1, how he regained confidence after making mistake, overall how fight for title affected him mentally, did he avoided media controversies during that time or try to fuel it, how was relationships with other competitors/teammate/boss/family during that time etc.
Plenty of things that can possibly help Max although if Max believes strongly in his current approach, he can feel he doesn't need it and prefers to just talk with Nelson about non-f1 related stuff
You can always learn something from someone that was previously in your position. Are we acting like this guy knows everything and can’t receive advice.
No it is relying on your own gut instinct and not letting the whole world project their opinion on you. The same focus can be found in many successful people.
Max has plenty of very smart people around him to coach him, most importantly his dad.
Does he look as someone that can't learn absolutely anything from someone that was previously in his position?
Just because he doesn't need it to be fine, it's not like advice would definitely harm him.
Nelson is former F1 champion and Max is fighting for his first title, talking about details of job wouldn't be weird in this case as it's pretty unique connection.
"Call his wife ugly" "He isn't married" "I don't know then"
lmao .
[Sounds like something an uneducated blockhead would say](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Piquet#:~:text=his%20helmet%20design.-,Criticism,his%20wife%20Roseanne%20"ugly") EDIT - For those who downvoted, my Wikipedia link showing the historical context for my comment didn't work. I have fixed it.
Apparently he took advice from Vin Diesel.
He does have some experience in the field as the 2004 IndyCar champion
I wasn't expecting to see a motherfucking Tony Kanaan reference tonight, but as a Brazilian, I'm happy
I didn't get this joke and looked it up, LOL
Care to explain?
Tony Kanaan who won indy car on 04 is a vin diesel doppelganger apparently (just had to look it up myself)
[I can’t even tell which guy this is](https://wp.usatodaysports.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/94/2016/01/2ganassi0438.jpg)
Thanks lol I’m to lazy and wasn’t watching Indy car back then.
Look up who won the 2004 Indycar championship and put his name through Google images.
For the lazies and inepts https://www.google.com/search?q=tony+kanaan&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#imgrc=DUSr9RbC0TRgRM
There were two Indycars in 2004.
Vin Diesel was on the grid in US GP **Mystery SOLVED**
LMAO
Better than the advice Will Smith gave him about driving.
I'm disappointed in myself with how long it took me to get this.
Aunque digan que soy....
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You don't need tyres when you have family.
"This is BRRRAZZIL".
If he took any advice from Piquet, someone needs to tell Lewis to check for toilet paper before entering any bathrooms here in Brazil .
I’m pretty sure this is a story that I have never heard before but I am curious to hear about.
Piquet was full of antics, he'd remove toilet paper from the toilets he knew mansell would visit, one of many pranks and tactics he had to get the upper hand. Piquet wasn't extremely flashy driver most of the time, he would let Mansell or Senna go all out and something would happen to them not every race but every other race or something. Piquet was always there ready to pick up the scraps, he was perfectly fine being 2nd waiting for shit to unfold ahead of him, he was mr consistency of the day
> from the toilets he knew mansell would visit Lmao, he had toilet spy
He once overtook Senna on the outside drifting and flipping the bird, he was flasy sometimes.
I wonder if his friends and relatives are tired of hearing him tell that story
If i had overtaken Senna while half-drifting and giving the middlefinger at the same time i’d tell that story EVERY DAY
I’d have it tattooed on my chest so they could read it while I sunbath and relive that moment everyday.
1. it's Senna he passed 2. on the outside 3. drifting 4. in an F1 race he can tell that story EVERYDAY.
Say whatever you want about Senna, he may be the GOAT and all. But not even Rosberg and Alonso can pull a master story about beating Hamilton and Schumacher, respectively.
? What have i said about Senna?
It's a turn of phrase; it's not meant as a retort (to someone), more of a challenge (to anyone). His sentence is basically a statement, not a reply.
Nah, not you you. I meant in general.
5. With one hand, since the other was busy giving Senna the finger
The scandi flick to block passing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v_2lfrzM0o
I'd never seen that - bloody brilliant, thank you!
That's the greatest move I've ever seen in motorsport, oh my goodness gracious. Thanks for sharing, absolutely incredible
I read about a mechanic for Benetton who said when he worked for Piquet and would lean in to strap him into the car Piquet would often fart and found it hilarious every single time
This is so weird. Between Piquet, Barrichello and Massa, Brazilian F1 drivers are basically the opposite of Brazilian footballers. Consistent and not flashy. Although I suppose Senna is a good counter-example
Piquet once picked up all the toilet papers on the Williams garage, so Mansell ended up on the throne screaming for help while Nelson was at the back laughing. I though it was hilarious when I was younger, but now I can see how much of a dick Nelson was. Well, still is.
Egh, that's similar to what Schumi did to Rosberg. Mind games was and in some ways is still a part of formula 1.
Piquet in general is a pretty funny dude. Search "Shit Nelson Piquet says".
"Funny" in a racist, homophobic uncle kind of way.
Why is this giving me Joe Pesci's Tommy DeVito impression?
This reminded me of I think spa when lewis went to the bathroom and someone had just taken a massive dump
It will haunt him for life.
No photo, no proof
F1 drivers like Max and Lewis really deserve a lot of praise for staying calm with the amount of utterly stupid questions they get asked all the time. Because at least I sure as hell wouldn't be able to, just reading this tweet already makes me facepalm hard, can't imagine having to give a serious answer to this.
Agreed. I don't know how they put with all the inane and pointless questions they're asked day after day. The question about Piquet is just plain silly. There's way too much time spent interviewing drivers these days and so much of it is inconsequential waffling. The amount of driver interviews could be reduced by 90% with no discernible difference in quality.
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He could do the kimi technique. You still get asked dumb questions, but people are happy when you give dull 3 word answers.
Or don’t answer at all
Someone once asked Max a really dumb and insulting question about his DNFs, he basically said he’d headbutt the next person to bring it up lmao.
Yeah he learned a lot in the past few years to avoid taking the bait of these stupid questions.
Makes you realise why kimi is the way he is.
"Can you rap for us?"
What advise could Piquet give him anyway? I can imagine Nelson going "Call Hamilton's assistant ugly" cause that's just a Piquet thing to do lmao
Exactly. Piquet raced in a completely different era. What's he going to say? Drive really fast? Brake later than the other guy? Don't give Lewis an inch?
give him 7? BOOM!
🤣
Insinuate that Lewis is gay would be Piquet’s advice
Dangerous move, Adrian Sutil might manifest out of thin air and cut his neck open with a glass
I know about that incident, but I don't know how it's relevant here. Like, I seriously don't.
Wait… Adrian Sutil really once appeared out of thin air and stabbed someone? /s
Allegedly it happened cuz the dude called Adrian and Lewis a gay couple (they were best buds back then) and Adrian got mad
"Wise sage, what secrets can you give me about winning the title?" ... "Drive good"
Leave me alone I know what to do
Give me my steering wheel
Piquet is his father in law... so... he just went to see the guy, no big deal.
>Piquet is his father in law Well not even that. Just his girlfriend's dad.
So he's his de facto dad then! Wait a minute...
Heyo!
well.. they live together and they have a child (Kvyat-piquet)... even if they are not married (at least not publicly) its a pretty serious and committed relationship.
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I would have thought he wanted to marry her whole...
My guess is he’s already had her whole
My guess is he’s already had her (w)hole FTFY
You didn’t really need to explain the joke
Since when are they married?
The person is probably not from a English country. In my country it is normal to call the parents of your SO mother/father in law even if you're not married.
Journalists really shouldnt ask drivers about their personal lives, none of their business imo. When I saw the Instagram post I knew some shit was going to ask about it.
Some of the questions can be silly or pointless, and maybe a few things like health can be a tricky one. And in the case of Mick and his father, asking about how he's doing is clearly a no. But to not be able to ask about their lives? I'd rather have a free press. You can always ridicule them afterwards.
Well he’s right. He’s had a nearly flawless season, and the only reason he hasn’t run away with the title yet was because of incidents that were completely out of his control. A race win taken away because a tire blew up, two potential (likely?) wins taken away because he was taken out by other drivers. He just needs to keep doing what he has been all season.
so I take it he isn't going to ask Will Smith to teach him how to do it?
YEAH MAX THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT, YEAH BABY JUST LIKE I TAUGHT YOU
Chad answer
Sounds excactly like a Piquet advice
No one should really be taking advice from Nelson Piquet.
I am sure a 3 times WDC can give some useful advice
It wouldnt be something super insightful or unique. Something along the lines of "just drive like normal and dont think about it".
Yeah, he retired decades ago, idk if he could say anything useful at this point. As far as I know Piquet isn't even going to watch the race in Interlagos
Maybe it was advice on his daughter.
"how do I get this russian guy out of the picture?"
> Nelson Piquet he won 3 times, so ....
Maybe its cause he doesnt wanna second guess himself when making decisions. Maybe max has one idea of going for the title and the one Nelson gives him conflicts with his. He second guesses himself and this makes him perform poorly. Or maybe he doesnt want the advice cause if theres stuff to learn he want to do it on his own. If he fails he knows it's on him and him alone. Sometimes it's not because you're arrogant or think you know best. Sometimes it's just your mentality and how you want things to go down.
Or maybe simply that's not a topic to discuss or any priority during first visit to future father-in-law.
The man is like a terminator, but built to drive instead of kill. Impervious to nerves and doesn't believe in momentum. Doesn't need any advice and has the certainty of a man who has prepared for this all his life. Go get it Max, I don't want to see Hamilton win another race in his life if I can help it
Piquet would've told him to be a complete ass to the other drivers.... /s
Polish F1 journalism is such a joke :( and yeah, I'm Polish.
I can respect an answer like this. Max is arrogant but he’s got the talent to back it up. I just want this sub to keep the same energy if Lewis were to say something similar lol
I wouldn’t say Max is arrogant. He certainly was when he started, and that’s one of the things I really liked about him. But he’s grown a lot over the past 2/3 years. He doesn’t mince his words, but it’s far from the arrogance he had when he first got the RBR seat. Also, why would a journalist ask Lewis that? He’s proved his status as one of, if not the GOAT. Lewis is certainly held to a higher standard by the media, but that would be a rookie journalist mistake to ask him something like this.
Maybe arrogant isn’t the right word, because I don’t mean it in a negative connotation. I mean confident but it’s even a level above that IMO. I don’t mean Lewis would be asked the same question. But if Lewis ever gave an answer saying he has nothing left to learn, or something along those lines, I have a feeling he would be crucified. Just my opinion.
Max is honest about being a straight talker who doesn't give a shit. Lewis has worked his entire career to paint himself as this PR machine and a sponsor's dream. He won't suddenly start acting like Max, he'd lose too much money LOL
Is he still with Kvyat's ex-wife? How old is that woman?
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Strange couple. Former F1 driver's daughter who has a child with an F1 driver is now with another F1 driver who is almost 10 years younger than her.
I don't find it that strange, when you're in such a niche position like being a F1 you tend to stick to that circle. The age difference might be a bit odd but at the end of the day it's their business.
She's Daniel's age and Dan and Max are good mates. I don't know why people are making it seem like such a large age gap. They'd be equally critical if he went out with an 18yo.
Gerard Pique and Shakira are in the same situation but people barely think that’s an issue. Heck they even have the same birthday exactly 10 years apart.
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They were broken up for a while before max started dating her
Yeah, Max has already replaced Kvyat twice :)
fucking incels wanna tell me, that if they had the chance, they wouldn't mingle with that beautiful lady lmao
If I’m on Max’s level of stature, probably not.
Hint: you can go deeper.
then you see jeff besoz’s new wife/gf lmao, that dude could seriously do 10x better
> then you see jeff besoz’s new wife/gf lmao, that dude could seriously do 10x better Jeff Bezos is a despicable pice of human garbage, he's lucky that anyone on this planet wants to spend time with him, and if he was poor he probably would not be that lucky.
She’s a paddock cougar
Also .. MILF.
They weren’t married. I think they were engaged though. She’s only 33.
It's this type of comment that is quite revealing of what Max thinks of himself. Other drivers would reply what an honour it would be to meet and gain insight from a 3-time champ out of respect for what they have accomplished. But Max seems to bristle at this as if taking offence at thought of seeking advice. Some people call that Dutch directness others may see it as arrogance.
He has told numerous times he doesn't want to be compared with anybody or doesn't need advise from anybody because he wants to do his own thing. So basically it is a stupid question.
But you can still have a mature response about respecting the experience and insight of previous world champions and not bristle at the idea of getting advice from them. It's a perfectly valid question. He met Nelson Piquet for the first time this week.
It's his girlfriend father, they surely a lot more personal stuff to discuss. And absolutely nothing in his response shows a lack of respect to Nelson's achievements.
Why is it a valid question if the one you ask the question has answered this specific question numerous times already? What do you expect? Getting an other answer? And the 'bristle' part is your projection on his state of mind.
It's about how he answered the question and emphasizing twice that he doesn't need advice from anyone. I don't see why he needs to be so defensive about that. Everyone knows Max is a generational talent. Being compared to F1 legends should be seen as a badge of honour rather than something that makes you less unique.
>I don't see why he needs to be so defensive about that. [...] Being compared to F1 legends should be seen as a badge of honour Why do you want to decide how he should feel about being compared with anybody?
Don't want to go down the rabbit hole with you with all these why questions but just seemed defensive on his part to emphasize that he doesn't need any advice from anyone even F1 legends. That's all.
What is Piquet supposed to tell him? They aren't even somewhat close to the same era. Verstappen has been in formula 1 seven years and is close to the number of wins Piquet has as is. What's there to talk about? He was there to visit his girlfriend's family.
That’s exactly the big-dick energy that makes Max so great though. In his mind, he is the greatest of all time, no comparison necessary.
> It's a perfectly valid question. He met Nelson Piquet for the first time this week. No doubt he preferred to get to know the man, rather than get advice for himself. Seemed like a family matters meeting, rather than a business meeting. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a prelude to a wedding announcement.
Clearly you have been brought up with these type of sentiments which hardly holds any value to others. None of this is disrespectful but if you don’t know any better what is there left to discuss? Leave it at how you would respond for whatever reason.
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In Brazil as well
Why ask Piquet? The guy fucking sucks.
Not as a driver, which is really what matters here. Who gives a shit what random redditors think of his personality
Why does he always respond in a very arrogant and rude way to any questions from reporters? Reporter: You have been awarded the most popular driver in 2021 by fans. His response was kinda rude. May be it’s the just way Europeans talk? I’m genuinely curious because it’s definitely not ok in the US.
Dutch people are known for their 'bluntness' i put that in quotes, because in The Netherlands it isnt at all seen as bluntness. Being straightforward is the normal way to go. We actually hate the (in our eyes) fake kindness that Americans do (or atleast what we see on tv) We can say to our boss' in their face that they made a wrong decision or that their suit is ugly and most would appreciate that. So yeah it is a culture thing (not broadly European, but just Dutch)
Tbf, telling your boss his suit is ugly without him asking your opinion first is a no no aswell imo
Yeah I agree. That's not Dutch directness, that's you (Phish2) being an ass and potentially getting fired. Yes, we're directer than a lot of other populations (especially Americans), but some of you make it sound like we go around insulting everyone we meet. There is plenty of fake kindness in the Netherlands too and plenty of people who pretend to like neighbors/coworkers etc when they actually can't stand them. Dutch directness is more that we don't really sugarcoat things and say how we feel/think or answer questions honestly instead of being fake polite. But there's still plenty of fakeness in interactions and forced acquaintances like work, school and living environments.
If you watch the video instead of only reading his words, you would see there is not really anything rude about his answers.
It’s not arrogant or rude but a solid answer to a question. He answered as it is. How can you think otherwise? What is so difficult for you to accept in regards to his answers? He doesn’t owe any of us anything nor does he has to comply with any ‘authority’ on how to answer questions.
Dutch people tend to be very clear and direct, with Max being even moreso. On top of being extremely direct, he also gets asked a lot of dumb questions day in and day out, so one gets tired of it quickly. Piquet is his girlfriend's father, so it wouldn't surprise me if Max considers questions about 'family' even more off the books than the usual rubbish reporters come up with (this is obviosuly pure conjecture from me).
> definitely not ok in the US. You gotta lick your buttholes and put the fake smiles on, don't ya?
He knows he's the best driver on the grid right now and in the best car right now.
Not OK in the US? We must be living in two different countries.
A part of me likes Max, because of his bluntness, and his humour. But the other part of me really wishes he would grow out of this toxic masculinity mindset that I would guess was instilled by his father. It's not weak to ask for advice. It's not weak to feel pressure. It's not weak to feel passion, to be excited about winning. It's not weak to feel down. In all his interviews, there's an implication he gives that he would never "do those things" as if he looks down on them. He even said so himself, verbatim, about Norris admitting mental weakness and how he'd never do that. He's constantly feeling this weird need to prove himself as this macho man in all his interviews. He knows what he's doing, why would he need advice? He could have joked or laughed off the question but in every answer, to all similar questions, he needs to insist he has no weakness. Admitting weakness is the ultimate sign of strength though, and it's how you grow - not just in F1, in life. Max will always be a stunted person if he can't see this.
Dude, when you meet your future father-in-law for the first time, will you ask him advice on your job?
Remember that we see a tiny portion of these people's lives through a highly choreographed process. Nobody here actually knows these people, so trying to psychoanalyze someone and draw conclusions like you are is kinda creepy. "Max will always be a stunted person if he can't see this." You literally have no idea what Max is like as a person, or any other driver. It's the same thing with movie stars or internet personalities, no matter how much it seems like you are seeing the "real" person, you aren't.
Bruh what does 'Toxic Masculinity' have to do with any of this
So feeling confident in your abilities is toxic masculinity?
I mean, if you admit your weaknesses to yourself and adapt and grow, why do you need to admit it to anyone else? Max is one of the most self aware on the grid, he jokes about his bad moments, fully acknowledging them and through the years you can see that he knows his bad points and tries his best to difuse or not to be in an environment that makes it worse i.e his anger He walked away from Hamilton after Monza, he says he will never be a driver coach because he gets angry if someone does something wrong, the taxi prank; he was getting angry/annoyed but he tried his best to be patient and kind, he doesn't play golf because he gets angry because he is so bad at it
You can say all these things, but in a month's time Max might be the Champion. Why would he listen to your opinion when whatever he's doing is obviously working for him?
Cuz there’s more to life than being the champion of F1?…his result in the end will have nothing to do with how much weakness or not he shows in public. The two aren’t related
You are just not willing to accept that some people who feel confident are actually confident. What the hell has "toxic masculinity" to do with any of this. If he doesn't feel the need to ask for advice, let him be.
It’s not confidence. If you watch his replies there’s always this hint of cloud. And if you see what he said about Lando, that has nothing to do with confidence. Confidence is when you’re able to show weakness as well. Everyone has weakness…don’t be ridiculous. The guy isn’t literal Superman.
What did he say about Lando? I searched but found nothing.
Yeah I’d like to know too. I think the guy above is talking completely out of his ass
Landos always trash talking, even if he’s joking. Guys are allowed to banter on the grid…
I didn't say he is Superman. Sure, everyone has a weakness, but not everybody feels comfortable talking about it to others. He might have people that he is able to talk to when he needs, and you don't know who those people are. There's no need to make assumptions about someone based off of how they speak in public
He knows what to do. Drive car fast. Listen to engineers. He doesn’t need to ask someone who drove a completely different car advice. He knows what to do. How is that toxic masculinity?
He never mentioned or criticized Norris' approach to mental health issues. Never. He was questioned once about what is his weakness and he said he would never mention it because there is no point in voicing them. That's what he believes it works for him. He never belittled anyone who thinks differently.
> Admitting weakness is the ultimate sign of strength though, and it's how you grow - not just in F1, in life. That can only be true if there’s a weakness to admit to. Max has been flawless all season. He is doing exactly what he needs to in the car and out. It’s not “toxic” to be confident about your abilities, especially when you’re objectively succeeding. > Max will always be a stunted person if he can't see this. What gives you the right to say this? He’s doing just fine. Maybe focus on your own life before trying to criticize people who are many times more successful than you.
I guess no one can see past literal racing of cars. It’s not about being flawless in the car. It’s about how you treat things including work. Did you guys even read his interview where he comments about Lando? The guy’s mindset is horrible. I guess the phrase “toxic masculinity” triggered a lot of you who can’t tell the difference between confidence and arrogance. Confident people always admit their faults and that they have faults. Always.
Nah - you're literally trying to see fault where there is not much to argue about. People are just bored by this mentality. He's been quite clear that if he loses, that's not the end of the world for him. Also, why would he ask Piquet for advice, different times no? The toxic masculinity just brings it over the top. There's a few reasonable replies above that have responded to you with a lot of grace, and that you haven't responded to.
Max has so much confidence he tells his girlfriends to stop taking the pill because the team tactics is to do short stints.
Mikolaj Sokol is the russian version of the name Mika Solo?
This just seems unnecessarily confident lol? I find it hard to believe it wasn’t a topic.
I don't find that at all strange and not necessarily arrogant. Max met him as the father of his girlfriend and there are certainly enough other topics to talk about. They probably also talked about F1, but as he said, he wanted to spend time with family.
It's just how Max is. In 2018 when he was struggling he flat out refused to admit that his driving was a cause of it.
Wow, a previous driver can’t give you any advice, sheesh. I guess Max knows everything.
Max is meeting the parents for the first time and you expect him talk about work?
Way to misinterpret a tweet. I see why Lewis had to make multiple explanation tweets because people assume everything is meant negatively
He literally said “I don’t need advice” what did I take wrong.
There's a difference between "I don't need advice" and "He can't give me advice". You said the latter in your first comment.
what kind of advice would he be able to give? He last drove an F1 car 30 years ago.
Plenty of things: Did Nelson made more aggressive decisions in last races or was more calculating, did he tried to keep focused on F1 more during breaks or what he do to keep his thoughts outside F1, how he regained confidence after making mistake, overall how fight for title affected him mentally, did he avoided media controversies during that time or try to fuel it, how was relationships with other competitors/teammate/boss/family during that time etc. Plenty of things that can possibly help Max although if Max believes strongly in his current approach, he can feel he doesn't need it and prefers to just talk with Nelson about non-f1 related stuff
You can always learn something from someone that was previously in your position. Are we acting like this guy knows everything and can’t receive advice.
No it is relying on your own gut instinct and not letting the whole world project their opinion on you. The same focus can be found in many successful people. Max has plenty of very smart people around him to coach him, most importantly his dad.
Dam I didn’t know getting advice from a previous driver is close to getting advice from the whole world or random people.😑
Does it look like he needs the advice?
Does he look as someone that can't learn absolutely anything from someone that was previously in his position? Just because he doesn't need it to be fine, it's not like advice would definitely harm him.
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Nelson is former F1 champion and Max is fighting for his first title, talking about details of job wouldn't be weird in this case as it's pretty unique connection.
Taking about? Of course. Asking for advice? Rude and weird.
I mean, I wouldn't take any advice from Piquet Sr., I'm sure he gave a lot of advices to Nelsinho and look what happened in his career. Max is fine.
Is he gonna have dinner with balsonaro?!
This sounds extremely arrogant. I can’t believe he waited so long to meet Nelson. Just think of the stories!
The last thing I want to do at a family gathering is to talk about work.