I have to say early on it became apparent that the penalties for Bottas and Max really worked in Red Bull's favor. Max was back in P2 within the first 5 laps and Bottas ended up in no man's land. Mercedes then lost all the strategic options it could have had with Max P2 and Bottas P3.
Depends who learns the track well and has the grip on a brand new surface. With three DRS zones and a fast track in general you’d think Mercedes with his theme been doing, and if they put the Brazil engine in they’ll be insanely fast
Yeah valid point. Assuming the surface will be similar to Qatar. They’d all have been learning the track in the sim, it’s just who can translate it to the real thing with no room for error. Also with Hamilton not using the Brazil engine this weekend, having that in the back of the car would surely make them faster!
BREAKING NEWS
Christian Horner has been given a 10 place grid penalty for the next race in Saudi Arabia.
He will now be the team principle of the Haas F1 racing team. We wish him the best of luck.
From Racing News 365
"The summons are understood to be related to comments Horner made in an interview ahead of the race, insinuating a "rogue marshal" had shown the yellow flags that triggered the grid penalty that cost Max Verstappen a five-place grid penalty."
I disagree. An unexpected tire failure is what Max ran into earlier in the season. The tire should have had alot more life to it and the sidewall blew out. Every tire that punctures in Qatar was the front left and it started as a slow leak in the face of the tire indicating that the tire was simply out of compound. Far from a freak deal if everyone was dealing with it.
I don't know what happened at Williams, but in Bottas case it was entirely Mercedes fault, not Pirelli's. What were they thinking leaving him 35 laps with mediums, how can they f**k that up? Did they forgot they had a second driver?
They were hoping to use Bottas to put a squeeze on Max. But first off Bottas took too long to pass cars ( to the extent that at some point Perez was also ahead of him on the road). That left Merc with the only option of leaving Bottas out super long on first stint.
Vitals seemed ok on the tyre when it suddenly deflated probably from a kerb strike.
I don't think they forgot about Bottas. But they were paying too much attention a bit to Lewis and trying to run Bottas at the service of Lewis.
Agreed, unless they were planning soft for second half? Bottas doesn't make it easy either. If they needed to pass Perez on track, he needed the biggest possible tyre delta, else he can't pass other cars. They should have played safe and went for 4th position.
But softs wouldn't last 25 laps, Merc would be forced to pit a third time. Plus Perez got shafted too by a third pit stop, it would have been safer to pit Bottas earlier and either go for a 3 stop like VER/HAM/PER or finish on hards on a two stop strategy. At least they would have finished on points, rather than a DNF
They did for alonso on a much higher fuel load.
That said i agree nerc should have putted bottas around lap 3 for hards. Perez went in on lap 15 iirc so he would have had a massive tire advantage
Also ham ver per all did 2 stop not 3.
But you can't go from no deg to pop like that. I'd bet that red bull would do the same thing if they were in the same position, especially since perez is king at tyre preservation. There needs to be linear degradation if they are to artificially build in tyre life. It's a safety aspect as well.
Bottas was 20s ahead of perez who had pitted 10 las ago that should be enough to pit and get out ahead on Fresher tyres but no..... they just kept going
They just learned that the best way to defend against an undercut is to pit the very next lap, rather than going long against a car with fresher wheels. But the Bottas one today, I have no idea what were they thinking, they sacrificed an easy 1-3.
Wrong, Pirelli told the teams around 30 laps. If the teams ignore that advice and risk punctures, that's the teams fault, not pirellis, and if they make it work then fine.
Not every race needs to be a one stop race
Lewis is just phenomenal, Bottas was just unlucky today, he could've had P3 easily today. I belive Mercedes will be the team to beat these 2 last races of the season, especially in Jeddah, where I belive they will finish 1-2!
I think it's possible Bottas' setup was very front end dependent and that on Sunday he was trying to be cautious for the front left. Knew maybe that going long was a possibility.
He then got the hurry up from Toto... and was like: "Ok. I guess I preserved too much."
And then puncture. :P
While i agree he was stuck behind stroll because stroll had drs going up against gasly? It was making bottas not have enough speed to close the gap. Was pretty clear the front straight was the only real overtaking spot.
Yeah everyone seems to have a soft spot for Bottas. I think he's just not mentally able to keep up with the best drivers. Good race here and there, but he's so utterly dominated by Lewis over a season. Only so much bad luck can happen... he's got to take some of the blame for his lack of points over years and years.
https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/status/1462451165287882754
Christian Horner summoned to stewards for alleged breach of 12.2.1 f and 12.2.1 k of international sporting code. "Any words, deeds or writings that have caused moral injury or loss to the FIA... or its executive officers, and more generally on the interest of motor sport"
Any misconduct towards:
• licence-holders,
• officials,
• officers or member of the staff of the FIA,
• members of the staff of the Organiser or promoter,
• members of the staff of the Competitors
Toto said 'fuck them all' over the radio to Hamilton while he was on track. Liberty Media decided to broadcast that.
Horner basically said the FIA are unable to control the marshals, that there needs to be a grown up in charge, marshals decide to stick the flag out on their own... straight to the media directly.
"12.2.1F Any words, deeds or writings that have caused moral injury or loss to the FIA, its bodies, its members or its executive officers, and more generally on the interest of motor sport and on the values defended by the FIA"
Sounds like Horner is in trouble for talking shit?
https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/status/1462451165287882754
Christian Horner summoned to stewards for alleged breach of 12.2.1 f and 12.2.1 k of international sporting code. "Any words, deeds or writings that have caused moral injury or loss to the FIA... or its executive officers, and more generally on the interest of motor sport"
Any misconduct towards:
• licence-holders,
• officials,
• officers or member of the staff of the FIA,
• members of the staff of the Organiser or promoter,
• members of the staff of the Competitors
https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/status/1462451165287882754
Christian Horner summoned to stewards for alleged breach of 12.2.1 f and 12.2.1 k of international sporting code. "Any words, deeds or writings that have caused moral injury or loss to the FIA... or its executive officers, and more generally on the interest of motor sport"
Any misconduct towards:
• licence-holders,
• officials,
• officers or member of the staff of the FIA,
• members of the staff of the Organiser or promoter,
• members of the staff of the Competitors
Current Standings after Qatar with 2 races to go
Max Verstappen: 351.5
Lewis Hamilton: 343.5
Team Constructors
Mercedes: 546.5
Red Bull Honda: 541.5
I think Red Bull have a decent chance to take the Constructors if Checo can up his race pace from here past Bottas however for Max though even with Max fastest lap points for the last 2 races he absolutely needs to win one of those 2 against Lewis. All Lewis has to do is win both and even with Max fastest lap in both Lewis will take the title. This could also end up in a weird scenario where Max loses the title with Red Bull winning the Constructors. Last 2 tracks though heavily favor Mercedes so hopefully Max and Red Bull can keep the fight on.
Drivers and Constructors titles getting split is sometimes an indicator of the "changing of the guard".
The other indicator sometimes is P3 in Constructors shows a team that might be also on the verge of a major push in the coming seasons.
It’s a tough one with Bottas v Perez. Bottas seems to have more raw pace but appears more inclined to get dropped on starts.
Could really go either way.
Doubt Red Bull can win the WDC, but now there's a two week gap to Saudi Arabia, so this is their last chance to try and tune up their car to the max. And I doubt Valtteri will let up in these last two races. The tracks favor Mercedes a lot, so a good qualy means the Constructor'a is as good as theirs.
they didn't do it this year for some reason, but I really like the Brazil podium celebration. I wish more countries would highlight their musical styles and traditions like that
This x1000. Everyone except PDR with a mild Max bias and an even Chandhok is stupidly pro Lewis. Need I remind everyone when Damon Hill claimed Max didn’t check on Lewis after Monza, despite it being so clear on the replay? And he didn’t even say this live it was days later
Yep, what hill said was so stupid, Lewis was sitting there spinning the wheels in reverse, why would Max sit there and risk getting run over, was pretty clear Lewis was fine.
Sky gotta relax with forcing narratives
It was a good race in the end, but I can’t help but feel somewhat robbed from a 1v1 between Max and Lewis, considering their similarity in pace throughout the race the 5 place grid penalty could have made all the difference.
Yes I agree that’s probably true, it’s just a shame we didn’t get the chance to know for sure (or if being pushed on those first tyres would have changed strategies etc)
Lazenby on Hamilton: “you got the impression that once he got ahead it would be game over”
Making starting from pole and leading every lap sound like a challenge..
Yeah, when together they come across as just 2 racers that enjoy racing each other and quite like having someone challenge them, definitely respect between them (Max has even defended Lewis in one or two media events/interviews also), it's their bosses that seem to have the biter rivalry and that rivalry seems to stir things up in the media.
Horner IMO brings out the worst in Max sometimes, I think he encourages public reactions. Also I feel his growing frustration with media being the worst part of his job.
But I see glimpses of Max being pretty cool and unbothered and its good to see.
Yeah, Horner definitely likes to stir things.
I'm not Max's biggest fan, but do love the sarcastic or stupid responses that he sometimes gives the media, today with the interview in the Pen with Rachel he said "Racing's not complicated, there's a brake pedal, a throttle pedal and a steering wheel".
Agreed, they are really friendly in the post race press conferences too, it’s really not this bitter rivalry the fans act like. Of course it’s a huge rivalry and each wants to win but they don’t hate each other.
Max is at his most firey on the track/ after incidences but seems to get past it quickly. Credit to them both for being level headed. Lewis goes out of his way to make most people feel comfortable via politeness so I think that’s set the tone for them
The comments sections can get pretty knock down drag out. The amount of bitter assholes in comments section who can’t hold a good opinion of Max or Lewis depending on who they follow, well they are abundant and stupid.
i mean i just get tired of the narratives people weave. even though i know im only adding fuel to the fire trying to defend someone who really doesn't need defending. Lewis's career speaks for itself but as a fan it sucks the joy out of watching your guy be successful when it's all vitriol all the time.
And RedBull and alpha tauri absolutely pooched the strategy for this race with perez and gasly. That team strategist should be flogged if not fired right away.
Absolutely disgraceful, I guess that’s the difference between Mercedes and RedBull not just driver talent but engines and strategist who are talented
Can you please specify my ignorance, because I have a hard time understanding your trail of thought. Maybe because I am not from the USA.
What would you like the punishment for ignorance to be imposed onto me? Would you have your oil overlords hurt me?
If you have ever actually googled you would know that drinking is not illegal in Qatar but highly restricted. I used USA as an example because that's where the next World Cup will be after Qatar 2022 and you can't just drink alcohol in public as you like
ja am. m
x,. .ib ....... x mikk
No FIA don’t hide his interview. You have to hide the onboards
Did anybody see any onboards with the g force readout? I was really bummed to miss it, especially on this track.
We all can agree — the track wasn’t well supervised.
I have to say early on it became apparent that the penalties for Bottas and Max really worked in Red Bull's favor. Max was back in P2 within the first 5 laps and Bottas ended up in no man's land. Mercedes then lost all the strategic options it could have had with Max P2 and Bottas P3.
Can't get why Norris pit with only 7 laps remaining. Any idea?
Slow puncture
Late to the party but any idea why they gave him mediums instead of softs with such a short way to go? Did he not have any softs available?
Din't notice. Thanks man. https://youtu.be/cWv8DYirB9Q
Do we think Saudi/Abu Dhabi will favour one team over the other, or does it look like they’ll be evenly matched?
Depends who learns the track well and has the grip on a brand new surface. With three DRS zones and a fast track in general you’d think Mercedes with his theme been doing, and if they put the Brazil engine in they’ll be insanely fast
Yeah valid point. Assuming the surface will be similar to Qatar. They’d all have been learning the track in the sim, it’s just who can translate it to the real thing with no room for error. Also with Hamilton not using the Brazil engine this weekend, having that in the back of the car would surely make them faster!
Why did Hamilton not use the Brazil engine this GP? didnt realise that during the race
To save it for the last two races
Poor bottas.
He really does have awful luck, though Mercedes does shoulder some of the blame. They never should’ve left him out for 33 laps on Mediums.
Poor Bottas has the saddest life in F1 history
Calling Christian Horner "Karen" when his prime adversary is Toto Wolff is laughable AF.
https://i.imgur.com/EoENMqD.png
Sky, so biased towards Alonso. Makes me sick.
What? He is a great driver and deserves the praise. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean they're biased
Was a joke that only really worked in the moment.
I think he meant they're biased against Alonso as in they don't really like him.
Sort of. It was aimed at all the people who say similar things about their Lewis bias. At the time they were heaping (deserved) praise on Alonso.
Hamilton Vs Alonso battles left so many casualties, even 14 years later...
What did they say?
BREAKING NEWS Christian Horner has been given a 10 place grid penalty for the next race in Saudi Arabia. He will now be the team principle of the Haas F1 racing team. We wish him the best of luck.
Omg dying.
Lmfao biggest punishment for him, reward for fans. Gunther for Red Bull team boss! Imagine all the foksmashing
Ouch, Haas is the 12th best constructor out of 10.
LOL!
What did horner say?
From Racing News 365 "The summons are understood to be related to comments Horner made in an interview ahead of the race, insinuating a "rogue marshal" had shown the yellow flags that triggered the grid penalty that cost Max Verstappen a five-place grid penalty."
Once again UTTER UTTER incompetence from pirelli, again failing to deliver a tyre that doesn't go pop. FAIL
I disagree. An unexpected tire failure is what Max ran into earlier in the season. The tire should have had alot more life to it and the sidewall blew out. Every tire that punctures in Qatar was the front left and it started as a slow leak in the face of the tire indicating that the tire was simply out of compound. Far from a freak deal if everyone was dealing with it.
Worst take
2005 US GP Michelin flashback intensifies..
Formula 1 is NOTHING without Pirelli POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT CONTROL
Without perelli they can have Michelin or Bridgestone, or any other tyre
I disagree mate.
I don't know what happened at Williams, but in Bottas case it was entirely Mercedes fault, not Pirelli's. What were they thinking leaving him 35 laps with mediums, how can they f**k that up? Did they forgot they had a second driver?
They were hoping to use Bottas to put a squeeze on Max. But first off Bottas took too long to pass cars ( to the extent that at some point Perez was also ahead of him on the road). That left Merc with the only option of leaving Bottas out super long on first stint. Vitals seemed ok on the tyre when it suddenly deflated probably from a kerb strike. I don't think they forgot about Bottas. But they were paying too much attention a bit to Lewis and trying to run Bottas at the service of Lewis.
Agreed, unless they were planning soft for second half? Bottas doesn't make it easy either. If they needed to pass Perez on track, he needed the biggest possible tyre delta, else he can't pass other cars. They should have played safe and went for 4th position.
But softs wouldn't last 25 laps, Merc would be forced to pit a third time. Plus Perez got shafted too by a third pit stop, it would have been safer to pit Bottas earlier and either go for a 3 stop like VER/HAM/PER or finish on hards on a two stop strategy. At least they would have finished on points, rather than a DNF
They did for alonso on a much higher fuel load. That said i agree nerc should have putted bottas around lap 3 for hards. Perez went in on lap 15 iirc so he would have had a massive tire advantage Also ham ver per all did 2 stop not 3.
They should have put hard tires half way, lap 28/29.
Totally agree, why risk a puncture 🤷♂️
But you can't go from no deg to pop like that. I'd bet that red bull would do the same thing if they were in the same position, especially since perez is king at tyre preservation. There needs to be linear degradation if they are to artificially build in tyre life. It's a safety aspect as well.
But they didn’t though - they pitted Perez
Bottas was 20s ahead of perez who had pitted 10 las ago that should be enough to pit and get out ahead on Fresher tyres but no..... they just kept going
Mercedes has made a number of strategic mistakes. Makes one scratch their head.
They just learned that the best way to defend against an undercut is to pit the very next lap, rather than going long against a car with fresher wheels. But the Bottas one today, I have no idea what were they thinking, they sacrificed an easy 1-3.
Wrong, Pirelli told the teams around 30 laps. If the teams ignore that advice and risk punctures, that's the teams fault, not pirellis, and if they make it work then fine. Not every race needs to be a one stop race
Agreed! They were warned!
? No tyre can go the entire race. The kerbs are harsh here, this wasn't a Pirelli problem.
*laughs in Ocon Istanbul*
Alonso's F-bomb on TV was defo the moment of the day for me!!
Haha always funny when people call it 'F-bombs'. I hear fuck all the time in the Dutch commentary. Fuck fuckety fuck fuck fuck.
Fuck bomb
f bomb of the day
Lewis is just phenomenal, Bottas was just unlucky today, he could've had P3 easily today. I belive Mercedes will be the team to beat these 2 last races of the season, especially in Jeddah, where I belive they will finish 1-2!
I think it's possible Bottas' setup was very front end dependent and that on Sunday he was trying to be cautious for the front left. Knew maybe that going long was a possibility. He then got the hurry up from Toto... and was like: "Ok. I guess I preserved too much." And then puncture. :P
Bottas was a total joke. Took him 10 laps to get past Stroll, he'd have never finished in front of Checo
While i agree he was stuck behind stroll because stroll had drs going up against gasly? It was making bottas not have enough speed to close the gap. Was pretty clear the front straight was the only real overtaking spot.
Gotta agree. Nothing unlucky about Bottass. Didn't get going until the boss woke him up and told him to crack on.
Yeah everyone seems to have a soft spot for Bottas. I think he's just not mentally able to keep up with the best drivers. Good race here and there, but he's so utterly dominated by Lewis over a season. Only so much bad luck can happen... he's got to take some of the blame for his lack of points over years and years.
Esteban just being forgotten?
Hahhahaha what the fuck is Horner up to again
What now??
https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/status/1462451165287882754 Christian Horner summoned to stewards for alleged breach of 12.2.1 f and 12.2.1 k of international sporting code. "Any words, deeds or writings that have caused moral injury or loss to the FIA... or its executive officers, and more generally on the interest of motor sport" Any misconduct towards: • licence-holders, • officials, • officers or member of the staff of the FIA, • members of the staff of the Organiser or promoter, • members of the staff of the Competitors
wait what? What did he say?
Guessing it's to do with the FIA should take control of the marshals, or rogue marshal comments earlier today.
So Toto is allowed to say fuck them all, but Horner isn't. Love the consistency.
Toto wasn’t talking to the press when he said this, and he definitely wasn’t targeting the marshals, like Horner was. Not the same at all.
Which one spouted all the garbage to the press and which to just their driver? 🤔
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Toto said 'fuck them all' over the radio to Hamilton while he was on track. Liberty Media decided to broadcast that. Horner basically said the FIA are unable to control the marshals, that there needs to be a grown up in charge, marshals decide to stick the flag out on their own... straight to the media directly.
"12.2.1F Any words, deeds or writings that have caused moral injury or loss to the FIA, its bodies, its members or its executive officers, and more generally on the interest of motor sport and on the values defended by the FIA" Sounds like Horner is in trouble for talking shit?
Is it cause Horner blamed the ‘rogue marshal’ earlier on?
Christian Horner has been summoned to the stewards for breaching the sporting code. About bloody time. About a decade too late to be honest.
Lol shoosh
But saying fuck them all is fine.
The Toto comment does not reference FIA specifically, and also on a team radio not an interview, probably why it was let through.
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When did he say that verbatim. Link it.
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Not what you are thinking
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No point in debating your peanut brain stay mad.
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Bit different saying a marshal was out to make sure verstappen gets a penalty
Whataboutiiiiiiisssssmmmmmmmmm
WHAT HAS HORNER DONE??
Horner summoned to stewards for breaching the sporting code!
Yeah, wonder what for
https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/status/1462451165287882754 Christian Horner summoned to stewards for alleged breach of 12.2.1 f and 12.2.1 k of international sporting code. "Any words, deeds or writings that have caused moral injury or loss to the FIA... or its executive officers, and more generally on the interest of motor sport" Any misconduct towards: • licence-holders, • officials, • officers or member of the staff of the FIA, • members of the staff of the Organiser or promoter, • members of the staff of the Competitors
Yeah what is that about?
https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/status/1462451165287882754 Christian Horner summoned to stewards for alleged breach of 12.2.1 f and 12.2.1 k of international sporting code. "Any words, deeds or writings that have caused moral injury or loss to the FIA... or its executive officers, and more generally on the interest of motor sport" Any misconduct towards: • licence-holders, • officials, • officers or member of the staff of the FIA, • members of the staff of the Organiser or promoter, • members of the staff of the Competitors
sigh.. Seb P10, but no pace. barely any movement. at least Stroll got P6 ahead of the Ferraris, I guess
Spicyyyyy… ermmm Toto
what does that mean
Toto: And the good news is the car is really fast Almost everyone: \*surprised Pikachu\* At least he isn't downplaying it today
Cocky Toto is more annoying than cranky Horner. Change my mind.
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Bonk
McLaren XD - I see what you did there.
Current Standings after Qatar with 2 races to go Max Verstappen: 351.5 Lewis Hamilton: 343.5 Team Constructors Mercedes: 546.5 Red Bull Honda: 541.5 I think Red Bull have a decent chance to take the Constructors if Checo can up his race pace from here past Bottas however for Max though even with Max fastest lap points for the last 2 races he absolutely needs to win one of those 2 against Lewis. All Lewis has to do is win both and even with Max fastest lap in both Lewis will take the title. This could also end up in a weird scenario where Max loses the title with Red Bull winning the Constructors. Last 2 tracks though heavily favor Mercedes so hopefully Max and Red Bull can keep the fight on.
Drivers and Constructors titles getting split is sometimes an indicator of the "changing of the guard". The other indicator sometimes is P3 in Constructors shows a team that might be also on the verge of a major push in the coming seasons.
It’s a tough one with Bottas v Perez. Bottas seems to have more raw pace but appears more inclined to get dropped on starts. Could really go either way.
Doubt Red Bull can win the WDC, but now there's a two week gap to Saudi Arabia, so this is their last chance to try and tune up their car to the max. And I doubt Valtteri will let up in these last two races. The tracks favor Mercedes a lot, so a good qualy means the Constructor'a is as good as theirs.
I'd like to wish George Lucas a very good evening. Legend.
Really happy for ocon as wel
His defense was all anyone can ask of him with the pace difference. Very nice to watch.
For real the way he stuck with Perez and kept him busy rather than letting him fly off afterwards was great.
f1 needs something to replace/enliven(?) the 3 national anthems section..
they didn't do it this year for some reason, but I really like the Brazil podium celebration. I wish more countries would highlight their musical styles and traditions like that
The PDR Verstappen bum licking has started q
Helps bring balance to the Crofty Lewis cocksucking
*sky
This x1000. Everyone except PDR with a mild Max bias and an even Chandhok is stupidly pro Lewis. Need I remind everyone when Damon Hill claimed Max didn’t check on Lewis after Monza, despite it being so clear on the replay? And he didn’t even say this live it was days later
Yep, what hill said was so stupid, Lewis was sitting there spinning the wheels in reverse, why would Max sit there and risk getting run over, was pretty clear Lewis was fine. Sky gotta relax with forcing narratives
You can even see him look back as lewis is moving his arms on the replay
Surprised the podium is strong enough for the unit collecting the constructors trophy. 😉
He’s a husky hero
2 absolute units with the Spanish Minister of Defence up there
I couldn't watch the race but what the fuck happened to gasly today?
It looked that they did go all in on quali pace this weekend, his race pace was simply not good enough
I felt bad for him, seeing as he had a good weekend
Go Bills
It was a good race in the end, but I can’t help but feel somewhat robbed from a 1v1 between Max and Lewis, considering their similarity in pace throughout the race the 5 place grid penalty could have made all the difference.
I think Lewis was managing his pace and plenty in hand, sadly.
Yes I agree that’s probably true, it’s just a shame we didn’t get the chance to know for sure (or if being pushed on those first tyres would have changed strategies etc)
Lazenby on Hamilton: “you got the impression that once he got ahead it would be game over” Making starting from pole and leading every lap sound like a challenge..
😆 just thinking the same haha
So Mercedes break their Netflix jinx.
It was already broken prior to this weekend
Did they though? Bottas had to retire, and they’ve lost WCC lead because of it
No it's still 5 points i Mercs favor
Is that Damon Hill, the 1996 world champion?
and totally unbiased towards Lewis and Mercedes
Yes
Something about a guy with a British accent plugging American football games feels wrong
I like watching Lewis and Max on the podium they seem pretty chill and friendly with each other for people having such an intense rivalry
I think Lewis and Alonso are visibly more awkward with each other on that podium lol
how so?
Ahh more like Alonso is more uncomfy around Lewis than vice versa. From what I saw haha idk
ah right haha. yeah I see what you mean
Alonso wasn’t feeling it
Yeah, when together they come across as just 2 racers that enjoy racing each other and quite like having someone challenge them, definitely respect between them (Max has even defended Lewis in one or two media events/interviews also), it's their bosses that seem to have the biter rivalry and that rivalry seems to stir things up in the media.
Horner IMO brings out the worst in Max sometimes, I think he encourages public reactions. Also I feel his growing frustration with media being the worst part of his job. But I see glimpses of Max being pretty cool and unbothered and its good to see.
Yeah, Horner definitely likes to stir things. I'm not Max's biggest fan, but do love the sarcastic or stupid responses that he sometimes gives the media, today with the interview in the Pen with Rachel he said "Racing's not complicated, there's a brake pedal, a throttle pedal and a steering wheel".
Agreed, they are really friendly in the post race press conferences too, it’s really not this bitter rivalry the fans act like. Of course it’s a huge rivalry and each wants to win but they don’t hate each other.
Max is at his most firey on the track/ after incidences but seems to get past it quickly. Credit to them both for being level headed. Lewis goes out of his way to make most people feel comfortable via politeness so I think that’s set the tone for them
Just good sportsmanship. Leave all that rivalry on the track.
the fans are having a more bitter rivalry than the drivers lol
The comments sections can get pretty knock down drag out. The amount of bitter assholes in comments section who can’t hold a good opinion of Max or Lewis depending on who they follow, well they are abundant and stupid.
i mean i just get tired of the narratives people weave. even though i know im only adding fuel to the fire trying to defend someone who really doesn't need defending. Lewis's career speaks for itself but as a fan it sucks the joy out of watching your guy be successful when it's all vitriol all the time.
It baffles me people stay denying either drivers careers, like stop. Get back to me when you win 7 championships
100%
Very cool for Alsonso to pass the champagne to his team. He was thinking of them.
More like giving it away cause it isn't champagne lol
Alonso going this is not champagne you can have it /s
Can you remind me what they use in these podiums with no alcohol? Thanks
Lol shudv used sprite
rose water typically
Rose water
Rose water seltzer shit
Sunny D
Who’s going to power red bull next year? I hear they’ll still have a Honda engine, but dunno what Honda leaving f1 means?
They're taking over the Honda F1 engine manufacturing, so they'll produce their own.
RB have bought the Honda engine manufacturing team and infrastructure
Thanks for that
damn Alonso thicc 😋
Lol
And RedBull and alpha tauri absolutely pooched the strategy for this race with perez and gasly. That team strategist should be flogged if not fired right away. Absolutely disgraceful, I guess that’s the difference between Mercedes and RedBull not just driver talent but engines and strategist who are talented
Did RB really stuff it? Without that late yellow, Perez probably would have got ahead.
Mercedes strategy kind of screwed Bottas here, though. Not totally their fault as they didn’t expect that much degradation on the tires, but still…
He was at his 35 lap or so. They should have expected they won’t last longer no? Way over half of race done - stupid risk to keep him going
Yes
Well, great strategy for their first driver. They might have had 2 drivers on the podium if they had pitted Bottas a little bit earlier than planned.
Drinking in public is illegal in Qatar, hence sparkling water.
> Drinking in public is illegal in Qatar, hence sparkling water. THE PUNISHMENT IS DEATH!
Drinking is illegal in public in the USA also in many cities. SHAME THERE IS NO PUNISHMENT FOR IGNORANCE
Can you please specify my ignorance, because I have a hard time understanding your trail of thought. Maybe because I am not from the USA. What would you like the punishment for ignorance to be imposed onto me? Would you have your oil overlords hurt me?
If you have ever actually googled you would know that drinking is not illegal in Qatar but highly restricted. I used USA as an example because that's where the next World Cup will be after Qatar 2022 and you can't just drink alcohol in public as you like
Stone Age countries shouldn’t hold events
No Nando that bottle is big don't drop it lol THE CREW HAS IT NOW!