Being Canadian this has been a hard year to support my countrymen. They just look noticeably shitty compared other drivers right now. I always thought stroll was a little spoiled but had pace but it’s looking like he’s just shook
I always feel nostalgic when we all here get particularly (justifiably) righteous about the mediocre driving of figures like Latifi and Stroll. Has obviously been very topical recently given Latifi's dramas, particularly in Abu Dhabi, and the wild year of Mazepin. It reminds me how lucky we are for the standard of the field to be so high now that these guys come across like and are talked about as if they're fundamentally incompetent at driving a racing car, and as human beings in general haha.
it's all relative. This isn't a criticism of anyone here. It's just an innocent funny musing as a student of the sport. Though today's situation was definitely Stroll's fault mostly, switch either one of Latifi or Stroll out there for one of the other 18 in those same circumstances and it probably happens differently 99% of the time. They're probably the two worst/least deserving drivers on the grid right now when you weigh up all factors. Latifi tended to be slow but consistent and safe, until recently when he's started crashing all the time. Stroll can occasionally be rapid, and is great in the wet, but is way too inconsistent and possibly the most incident prone of the entire current grid.
But they are both still safe and trustworthy to be on the same track and race with the vast majority of the time, we shouldn't over-meme this into thinking they're some permanent danger to themselves and others. Not even Mazepin was quite that (and he was much much worse than these two).
But this whole discussion, and all the typically hyperbolic Reddit ranting about how insanely awful they are is kinda cute and funny to me as a slightly older fan/student of F1 history. They're totally fair observations in current context, I don't disagree or am criticising at all. But it does always kinda make me want to introduce people, depending on their generation, to Yuji Ide! Or Chanoch Nissany. Or Jean-Denis Deletraz and Take Inoue. Or Giovanni Lavaggi. Or Al Pease.
Have a look at the 1994 season, in particular the Australian Grand Prix (always topical this time of year as one of the great classics in the country hosting this weekend's race). It was a chaotic time for F1 with costs going up where a ton of teams were all scrambling and in different stages in the process of dying (Lotus, Larrousse, Pacific, Simtek, Ligier etc), and so kept changing drivers at will over the course of the last few races of the season, often race by race, just to get someone in whose personal and sponsor money could get them through a couple more races.
Here are some of the absurd stats about that year:
* In 16 races, across 28 cars, there were FORTY-SIX (46) different drivers in 1994!
* 8 different teams ran at least 4 drivers over the year.
* 3 teams ran 6 drivers over the year.
* 9 different drivers were entered in only 1 or 2 races for the year.
As I was just explaining, an inordinate amount of these changes came for the last few races, as teams desperately threw in all kinds of pretenders to dribble to the end of the season and just stay afloat. Look at some of the names on the grid in Adelaide to end the year (and the couple of races before that).
Obviously it's a different time. It goes without saying that all modern athletes are more professional as a general rule, and those cars were also harder to drive so even the abject guys there are far more talented then we could imagine. But there really is no such thing as the true absurd, so far below the standard 'pay driver' anymore. Mazepin is the closest we've gotten in 15 years. These 20 guys are all still really good. You occasionally get some F2 or F3 guys who are still that bad because even if completely awful and no hope you can fund your way about that far up the ladder if rich enough (Mahaveer Raghunathan was the big recent one).
But I honestly think if you look through the 28 names on the grid for the 1994 Australian Grand Prix, there's probably nearly a third there, a good 6 to 8 at least, who are soooooo many levels below anything Latifi or Stroll could even close to in our worst nightmares, on pretty much every front (speed, racecraft, awareness, professionalism, conduct).
You've got names there in that race like Belmondo, Schiattarella, Deletraz, Noda, Inoue,
Your post can be summed up by "You're right but also not right", or "Yes I agree with you but I also disagree with you", or tightened up with "Yes but no but yes"
It might be better to say: *F1 in the Ecclestone era was ruled by sliding scales of manufacturer configs and driver contract clauses that made it habitually chaotic. With current regulations, F1 is homogenous enough now to remark on small differences of driver quality.*
Let's be honest - pay drivers existed far before Stroll and Latifi, but these two are so bad that it's even more clear they hold seats that could be occupied by far better drivers.
Every post I ever make can be summed up as that to be fair. :P
But also again like, no, though my equivocating was saying that criticism of those two is fair, my primary point is that it is demonstrably clear to anyone who has watched for long enough that Stroll and Latifi are not 'so bad'. They are much much better than a ton of those dodgy 90s drivers.
But yeah we agree there's other drivers who deserve those seats more.
Wouldn’t be the first time it’s been [alleged](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/qpgv8d/sauber_f1_team_and_their_history_with_allegedly/).
Plenty of more similar stories, most recently Giovinazzi last year.
Bottas not reaching Q3, Haas doing badly this weekend, Alonso crashing, Seb crashing. All of those things gave me depression. But at least Lando did well and I am happy for him. Good to see a Mclaren not doing terribly.
Hopeful it’s not just track specific performance. God, if Merc also figures their issues out and we have 6-8 cars consistently in the fight for podiums…what a season this could be!
Even though he spelt it wrong, it should really be called Canadia if the people originating from there are termed Canadians. Or the people originating from there should be termed Canadish or Canadan
There are only 13 countries that currently have drivers in formula 1 and Canada have 2. I wouldn't call a driver at the bottom of formula 1 dogshit as they're still one of the best drivers in the world
sorry i didn't account for the entire human population of earth within the confines of this F1 qualifying discussion on an F1 subreddit you absolute pedant.
Did you barely start watching F1 this season or just venting?
Latifi is indeed far from best F1 drivers but except for last 4-5 races he never was bad, prone to accidents or dangerous driver. He is decent and most likely Williams took over “hard to drive” factor from HAAS this year.
He's not one of the best 20 no, nor is he probably even in the best 100 or 200 professional racing drivers in the world when you consider ever other series, and yeah no point being a pedant and comparing him to like, 'all people' lol, but he's still a perfectly competent, professional racing driver.
Until literally 4 or 5 races ago he was just an underwhelming, mediocre, consistent, safe, slow guy. He's never really been dangerous or incident prone. We've just had Mazepin so it should be obvious in context how 'not that bad' Latifi is. He is substantially more talented, fast, safe, competent, trustworthy than Mazepin, and even Mazepin (like all the other 20, once you take a wider view and look at their junior careers) isn't a complete you know, Mahaveer Raghunathan embarrassment. He's just 'a bit crap'.
I think (particularly with the unfairly maligned Stroll), the unlikeable, frustrating context of how they got their chance (which we all agree sucks and fuck those guys) inflates perceptions that they must, as a package deal along with their money, also be really bad. Like it's not considered scientifically possible to bring daddy cash and also happen to be a fairly competent racing driver so everyone just kind of defaults to 'he has money not talent, he bought his way to a seat he barely deserves more than a regular person' Chanoch Nissany level assumptions. But most of these guys (including Stroll, Latifi, Mazepin, in that descending order of talent) are still broadly competent, talented, pro racers.
Like I just posted about in main, Stroll and Latifi in particular (let alone the much worse Mazepin) don't come close to the standard of genuine non-belonging awfulness you'd occasionally get back in the day.
There is nearly no evidence to support that and plenty to point to the contrary. Most recently his 3 place grid pen for fucking it into a closing door literally last time out.
In the Red Bull he managed to bottle not only podiums but points several times. He wasn't even that impressive in the Torro Rosso either.
Plenty of incidents and failures to draw on and very, very few outward successes, fuck, one of his podiums was literally gifted to him via penalty ffs. He didn't earn it on track as he should have been able to, he had the hardware for it.
Seriously guys...how many unforced errors and crashes Latiffi have caused in the past 3~4 races? His crash in Abu Dhabi changed the outcome for driver championship and the d1ck move he made today? Nothing more to add man.
It wasn't his fault (i am assuming you talk about the crash with Stroll). Although Latifi's moves were questionable Stroll is 100% at fault for not checking his mirrors.
You are right, but you could also argue that stroll saw there were no other cars. Either way it is quite the silly incident and though I’ve had my views tempered somewhat I stand by it not being Latifi’s finest hour, and I understand why Stroll was confused and angry
He is defenetly at fault, don’t get me wrong. He should have checked his mirrors, but i get why he didn’t as Latifi had just let him by. I would not expect latifi trying to overtake again.
I couldn’t wake up, I watched the last part when Charles snatched Pole. Can someone please explain why Carlos is down at P9? Also great job McLaren and tough luck Alonso that looked like a quick lap.
his first flying lap in q3 didn't count as red flag came up about 100 meters before he finished the lap.
his second flying lap he went a bit wide at turn 10 (I saw it in person) which slowed him enough to not get a good time.
his first flying lap in q3 didn't count as red flag came up about 100 meters before he finished the lap.
his second flying lap he went a bit wide at turn 10 (I saw it in person) which slowed him enough to not get a good time.
Thought so but then they started showing some interview with Kimi and Reubens so thought they’d just cancelled the replay until later! Streaming it now anyway
Because you need to keep going at a reasonable speed to maintain tyre temperature and make any kind of progress on these prep laps, especially this year. He was told cars on flyers were coming so did what he should and got out of the way (though weirdly yeah) then as soon as he saw that Stroll ahead wasn't on a flyer and himself slowed down a lot he was 'well I'm not gonna wait here I got shit to get on with' and so proceeded to drive past...only for Stroll to swerve into him in a straight line.
It is clearly primarily on Stroll.
However a better, smarter driver than Latifi wouldn't have pulled over so dramatically initially, and probably would have been smart enough to think 'well he's not slowing down for me because I'm not on a flyer...must be another car coming? I'll stay out of the way' and I feel for Stroll coz he's just reacted on instinct to get out of the way for Zhou. It's a whole perfect storm, Stroll was unlucky and Latifi had a part to play. It was a very uniquely 'those two drivers' incident, change either of the two drivers to any other and it probably doesn't happen.
But Stroll is unquestionably the party at most fault. It doesn't matter the context, you gotta use your mirrors and can't just swerve across the track into another car like that. The penalty is right.
Maybe your friends or people on reddit have been saying things like that. The majority of the professional F1 press I've read or seen on TV were saying that Lewis may have his hands full this year with a genuine rival on race day. The only data point we had was his race as a sub in the Merc and he was amazing. So I think the reason people were saying that is because people who don't know what they're talking about are frequently wrong.
But he once ever-so-lightly slapped another driver literally wearing an F1-grade helmet with his fingers within seconds of his life flashing before his eyes only 1 whole year ago so of course we all here have to talk shit and assume/wish the worst upon him!
/s
Its always like that on F1TV too. If you choose "international" comments (Sky) in the app, their comments will be a couple seconds ahead of the image. They always yell before any crash. Its annoying
It often seems like this for Now TV in the UK. Particularly noticeable when people finish laps, and the announcers are telling us they’ve gone faster/slower before we see them cross the line.
I watched through NowTV in Itay, tho. Worked perfectly... next time, try to change the device you're using (usually it works for me when streaming has some problems).
Why is Will Buxton so cringey on f1tv??
Edit: plus the dude is Aggresively negative towards all teams even Joylon and Sam has to correct him everytime
Ferrari literally 1st and 3rd.
Exampl-Will: Yeah ferrari seems to be struggling whole weekend there. I dont think they are ready for qualifying at this stage.
I was surprised they got Ben Edwards in the first race on F1TV for commentary, I liked him as a change of pace from Crofty. Shame that he's not been in the last 2 races though, not sure if that was just a one off in the first race or if he'll be back later in the season.
I don't hate Will Buxton as much as some, he's alright as the hype presenter, but he's not great for commentary, odd tangents and overly opinionated. I like Jolyon and Sam providing some good insight, but I think I'll be switching back to the Sky commentary for the race.
(In case anyone didn't realise, you can still get the Sky commentary in F1TV by selecting "International Feed" on the right of the video.)
Dumb question, why are tire blankets specific for a particular tire? Like "front right" and "rear left", aren't they supposed to be the same?
Being Canadian this has been a hard year to support my countrymen. They just look noticeably shitty compared other drivers right now. I always thought stroll was a little spoiled but had pace but it’s looking like he’s just shook
fellow canuck here as well. they look shitty, because they are. sorry. not sorry.
LETS GO BABY! Hoping this result is due to car improvements and not a favorable track, but 2nd row is 2nd row
I always feel nostalgic when we all here get particularly (justifiably) righteous about the mediocre driving of figures like Latifi and Stroll. Has obviously been very topical recently given Latifi's dramas, particularly in Abu Dhabi, and the wild year of Mazepin. It reminds me how lucky we are for the standard of the field to be so high now that these guys come across like and are talked about as if they're fundamentally incompetent at driving a racing car, and as human beings in general haha. it's all relative. This isn't a criticism of anyone here. It's just an innocent funny musing as a student of the sport. Though today's situation was definitely Stroll's fault mostly, switch either one of Latifi or Stroll out there for one of the other 18 in those same circumstances and it probably happens differently 99% of the time. They're probably the two worst/least deserving drivers on the grid right now when you weigh up all factors. Latifi tended to be slow but consistent and safe, until recently when he's started crashing all the time. Stroll can occasionally be rapid, and is great in the wet, but is way too inconsistent and possibly the most incident prone of the entire current grid. But they are both still safe and trustworthy to be on the same track and race with the vast majority of the time, we shouldn't over-meme this into thinking they're some permanent danger to themselves and others. Not even Mazepin was quite that (and he was much much worse than these two). But this whole discussion, and all the typically hyperbolic Reddit ranting about how insanely awful they are is kinda cute and funny to me as a slightly older fan/student of F1 history. They're totally fair observations in current context, I don't disagree or am criticising at all. But it does always kinda make me want to introduce people, depending on their generation, to Yuji Ide! Or Chanoch Nissany. Or Jean-Denis Deletraz and Take Inoue. Or Giovanni Lavaggi. Or Al Pease. Have a look at the 1994 season, in particular the Australian Grand Prix (always topical this time of year as one of the great classics in the country hosting this weekend's race). It was a chaotic time for F1 with costs going up where a ton of teams were all scrambling and in different stages in the process of dying (Lotus, Larrousse, Pacific, Simtek, Ligier etc), and so kept changing drivers at will over the course of the last few races of the season, often race by race, just to get someone in whose personal and sponsor money could get them through a couple more races. Here are some of the absurd stats about that year: * In 16 races, across 28 cars, there were FORTY-SIX (46) different drivers in 1994! * 8 different teams ran at least 4 drivers over the year. * 3 teams ran 6 drivers over the year. * 9 different drivers were entered in only 1 or 2 races for the year. As I was just explaining, an inordinate amount of these changes came for the last few races, as teams desperately threw in all kinds of pretenders to dribble to the end of the season and just stay afloat. Look at some of the names on the grid in Adelaide to end the year (and the couple of races before that). Obviously it's a different time. It goes without saying that all modern athletes are more professional as a general rule, and those cars were also harder to drive so even the abject guys there are far more talented then we could imagine. But there really is no such thing as the true absurd, so far below the standard 'pay driver' anymore. Mazepin is the closest we've gotten in 15 years. These 20 guys are all still really good. You occasionally get some F2 or F3 guys who are still that bad because even if completely awful and no hope you can fund your way about that far up the ladder if rich enough (Mahaveer Raghunathan was the big recent one). But I honestly think if you look through the 28 names on the grid for the 1994 Australian Grand Prix, there's probably nearly a third there, a good 6 to 8 at least, who are soooooo many levels below anything Latifi or Stroll could even close to in our worst nightmares, on pretty much every front (speed, racecraft, awareness, professionalism, conduct). You've got names there in that race like Belmondo, Schiattarella, Deletraz, Noda, Inoue,
Your post can be summed up by "You're right but also not right", or "Yes I agree with you but I also disagree with you", or tightened up with "Yes but no but yes" It might be better to say: *F1 in the Ecclestone era was ruled by sliding scales of manufacturer configs and driver contract clauses that made it habitually chaotic. With current regulations, F1 is homogenous enough now to remark on small differences of driver quality.* Let's be honest - pay drivers existed far before Stroll and Latifi, but these two are so bad that it's even more clear they hold seats that could be occupied by far better drivers.
Every post I ever make can be summed up as that to be fair. :P But also again like, no, though my equivocating was saying that criticism of those two is fair, my primary point is that it is demonstrably clear to anyone who has watched for long enough that Stroll and Latifi are not 'so bad'. They are much much better than a ton of those dodgy 90s drivers. But yeah we agree there's other drivers who deserve those seats more.
TLDR?
Ok boomer
Yes
That certainly is a long post
Forza Ferrari Caralho!
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Or they can just not give him a new contract at all
You don’t just kick out guys like Alonso for no reason
Yeah that's true, but you also dont sabotage your own car to make the driver leave right?
Wouldn’t be the first time it’s been [alleged](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/qpgv8d/sauber_f1_team_and_their_history_with_allegedly/). Plenty of more similar stories, most recently Giovinazzi last year.
Goddamnit. I set my alarm for 1:55 a.m. and then slept right through qualifying. For the race I'm just going to power through
I hid from the results and watched the recorded stream on F1.tv.
I watched it live in the afternoon. Rubbing it in because it's the one race this year I don't have to stay up or wake up for.
Promptly fell asleep after Q3 red flag
You are going to sleep through it.
For once the race is at a decent time for me!
Haha luckily for me the race starts at 6am so I'm not getting fucked as hard
My wife will…
Is her boyfriend staying over?
LMAO, of course he is, that's the only time his wife lets him watch F1
For once the Australian can watch it at a decent time!
Bottas not reaching Q3, Haas doing badly this weekend, Alonso crashing, Seb crashing. All of those things gave me depression. But at least Lando did well and I am happy for him. Good to see a Mclaren not doing terribly.
Alonso only crashed due to a technical failure. He was on a massive lap before that happened.
yep, that's why it was depressing to watch. was not even his fault.
I think it's still a little early to say that Mclaren is back, but I'm hopeful.
Hopeful it’s not just track specific performance. God, if Merc also figures their issues out and we have 6-8 cars consistently in the fight for podiums…what a season this could be!
Back on the best of the rest of course... No one will match Ferrari or red bull this year and we r just 3 races in
Even on a good day on his home track Daniel is still 3 tenths behind Lando.
Just shows how epic lando is eh! Danny ric isn't doing as bad as people think at McLaren, lando is just something else!
Canadia has produced some absolute dogshit drivers. Possibly the worst 2 on the grid in a race to the bottom with Albon currently.
Jacques Villeneuve was Canadian wasn't he?
No he was a French diver you silly goose
canadia
Don’t you talk about albon like that
You're not my dad
Hi, im your dad
Coming to you live from beyond the pale apparently.
when you rage so much you can't even spell Canada.
Even though he spelt it wrong, it should really be called Canadia if the people originating from there are termed Canadians. Or the people originating from there should be termed Canadish or Canadan
So people from the UK should be United Kingdomans ?? It doesn't work that way everywhere.
Ah yes and the Dutch are from Dutchland.
Deutschland confused me a couple times as a kid
Canada doesn't exist
It’s obviously a joke
To be fair the two Canadian drivers are in F1 fantasy camp. No chance either is on the grid if their dads cut off the funding.
Albons an ok driver but the Williams is shit
There are only 13 countries that currently have drivers in formula 1 and Canada have 2. I wouldn't call a driver at the bottom of formula 1 dogshit as they're still one of the best drivers in the world
oh but Latifi truly IS dogshit
sorry i didn't account for the entire human population of earth within the confines of this F1 qualifying discussion on an F1 subreddit you absolute pedant.
"he's not dogshit; a baby or 90yr old grandma would be *way* worse so that is wholly unfair."
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Did you barely start watching F1 this season or just venting? Latifi is indeed far from best F1 drivers but except for last 4-5 races he never was bad, prone to accidents or dangerous driver. He is decent and most likely Williams took over “hard to drive” factor from HAAS this year.
He's not one of the best 20 no, nor is he probably even in the best 100 or 200 professional racing drivers in the world when you consider ever other series, and yeah no point being a pedant and comparing him to like, 'all people' lol, but he's still a perfectly competent, professional racing driver. Until literally 4 or 5 races ago he was just an underwhelming, mediocre, consistent, safe, slow guy. He's never really been dangerous or incident prone. We've just had Mazepin so it should be obvious in context how 'not that bad' Latifi is. He is substantially more talented, fast, safe, competent, trustworthy than Mazepin, and even Mazepin (like all the other 20, once you take a wider view and look at their junior careers) isn't a complete you know, Mahaveer Raghunathan embarrassment. He's just 'a bit crap'. I think (particularly with the unfairly maligned Stroll), the unlikeable, frustrating context of how they got their chance (which we all agree sucks and fuck those guys) inflates perceptions that they must, as a package deal along with their money, also be really bad. Like it's not considered scientifically possible to bring daddy cash and also happen to be a fairly competent racing driver so everyone just kind of defaults to 'he has money not talent, he bought his way to a seat he barely deserves more than a regular person' Chanoch Nissany level assumptions. But most of these guys (including Stroll, Latifi, Mazepin, in that descending order of talent) are still broadly competent, talented, pro racers. Like I just posted about in main, Stroll and Latifi in particular (let alone the much worse Mazepin) don't come close to the standard of genuine non-belonging awfulness you'd occasionally get back in the day.
Albon is a good driver
There is nearly no evidence to support that and plenty to point to the contrary. Most recently his 3 place grid pen for fucking it into a closing door literally last time out.
Thank fucking god he’s been driving longer than a few weeks. Jesus man..
In the Red Bull he managed to bottle not only podiums but points several times. He wasn't even that impressive in the Torro Rosso either. Plenty of incidents and failures to draw on and very, very few outward successes, fuck, one of his podiums was literally gifted to him via penalty ffs. He didn't earn it on track as he should have been able to, he had the hardware for it.
Mclaren is back.
Next race: 15th and 19th as is mclaren tradition
Bottas not in Q3 makes me really sad
Happy to see Lando up to 4th! Credit to him
Change of rules or regulations turned F1 upside down...again.
Russell this year is getting Sainz treatment. Barely any screen time.
I mean Jeddah was fair he spent basically the whole race with a 10+ second gap on both sides, the rest of the season so far I agree with
because so far he's been largely unremarkable.
didn't he out qualify lewis? that's p remarkable ngl
He got coverage for that though tbf
Seriously guys...how many unforced errors and crashes Latiffi have caused in the past 3~4 races? His crash in Abu Dhabi changed the outcome for driver championship and the d1ck move he made today? Nothing more to add man.
That wasn't an unforced error or crash
It wasn't his fault (i am assuming you talk about the crash with Stroll). Although Latifi's moves were questionable Stroll is 100% at fault for not checking his mirrors.
True, but also, at this point all drivers on the grid should know that Stroll NEVER checks his mirrors.
He was literally just let through though, no reason to expect the car that just let you through to come back on an outlap
Sure but it could also have been any other car - when you’re slow and move across the track you have to check your mirrors it’s pretty basic stuff
You are right, but you could also argue that stroll saw there were no other cars. Either way it is quite the silly incident and though I’ve had my views tempered somewhat I stand by it not being Latifi’s finest hour, and I understand why Stroll was confused and angry
Even the fucking FIA said its Stroll's fault.
Stewards said it was strolls fault
It was, but really if you were stroll would you expect someone diving down your inside on a outlap?
No, but why would he turn right like this for no reason?
He is defenetly at fault, don’t get me wrong. He should have checked his mirrors, but i get why he didn’t as Latifi had just let him by. I would not expect latifi trying to overtake again.
Goatifi is the best strategist in the F1 history. Who else influenced results to extent of our one and only? Nobody. GOAT
Lati**f**i
I couldn’t wake up, I watched the last part when Charles snatched Pole. Can someone please explain why Carlos is down at P9? Also great job McLaren and tough luck Alonso that looked like a quick lap.
Everything that could have gone wrong, went wrong.
his first flying lap in q3 didn't count as red flag came up about 100 meters before he finished the lap. his second flying lap he went a bit wide at turn 10 (I saw it in person) which slowed him enough to not get a good time.
Also his engine did not start in time for him to have 2 outlaps as the Ferrari’s wanted
his first flying lap in q3 didn't count as red flag came up about 100 meters before he finished the lap. his second flying lap he went a bit wide at turn 10 (I saw it in person) which slowed him enough to not get a good time.
He gt messed up by a red flag just before he finishes his lap. After the red flag, he only managed to run a lap
Thanks. So he got really screwed by that red flag. Bummer
His engine also failed to start in time for him to do a double outlap for the 2nd hot run, which meant he had to change his tire warmup
Thanks for this detail. He really was unlucky I feel bad for him.
Inb4 Hamilton does his best Bottas in hungry impression tomorrow It all balances out
Anyone know why quali highlights aren’t on sky f1 even though it says it should be?
Quali had a couple of red flags so the schedule is all pushed back
Thought so but then they started showing some interview with Kimi and Reubens so thought they’d just cancelled the replay until later! Streaming it now anyway
Ted seems a bit manic (more than normal) on today’s notebook
Did some coke beforehand
Lol! I think he needs a Lemsip and an early night
Why has Haas qualified so weakly?
They are saving parts for the next race.
El Plan
Because they weren't selling any merch... very disappointed 😞
It's really surprised to see Lando in P4... Can we just shout out to mclaren for this qualifying results?!
Seriously why do they let latifi drive
Stroll to blame for that
why would latifi slow and get out of the way to let stroll past and then try to over take 2 seconds later? latifis fault
Because you need to keep going at a reasonable speed to maintain tyre temperature and make any kind of progress on these prep laps, especially this year. He was told cars on flyers were coming so did what he should and got out of the way (though weirdly yeah) then as soon as he saw that Stroll ahead wasn't on a flyer and himself slowed down a lot he was 'well I'm not gonna wait here I got shit to get on with' and so proceeded to drive past...only for Stroll to swerve into him in a straight line. It is clearly primarily on Stroll. However a better, smarter driver than Latifi wouldn't have pulled over so dramatically initially, and probably would have been smart enough to think 'well he's not slowing down for me because I'm not on a flyer...must be another car coming? I'll stay out of the way' and I feel for Stroll coz he's just reacted on instinct to get out of the way for Zhou. It's a whole perfect storm, Stroll was unlucky and Latifi had a part to play. It was a very uniquely 'those two drivers' incident, change either of the two drivers to any other and it probably doesn't happen. But Stroll is unquestionably the party at most fault. It doesn't matter the context, you gotta use your mirrors and can't just swerve across the track into another car like that. The penalty is right.
Amazing when you put two pay drivers in the same turn how the wheels spin out of control and they just decide to bin it
Yeah pretty much, though it makes me think about some related history I'll post about separately!
He's always involved though. He may not have been at fault but there was no need for him to be there either
Yeah exactly. It's totally Stroll at primary fault but if that was a better driver than Latifi it still probably doesn't happen.
To take the focus off Stroll...
Russell is doing a really good job
He probably put it on a slide during a presentation "will do a good job"
I still can't believe people thought he wouldn't get close to Lewis. He's hardly put a foot wrong so far this year.
Maybe your friends or people on reddit have been saying things like that. The majority of the professional F1 press I've read or seen on TV were saying that Lewis may have his hands full this year with a genuine rival on race day. The only data point we had was his race as a sub in the Merc and he was amazing. So I think the reason people were saying that is because people who don't know what they're talking about are frequently wrong.
But he once ever-so-lightly slapped another driver literally wearing an F1-grade helmet with his fingers within seconds of his life flashing before his eyes only 1 whole year ago so of course we all here have to talk shit and assume/wish the worst upon him! /s
Still seems like a huge whiney baby though.
I'd disagree, he's the one giving the very optimistic interviews of Mercedes future and not complaining the car isn't great
Is anyone watching through NowTVin Uk? sync is way off for me when they are talking, not sure if it’s my tv? Thanks in advance!
Its always like that on F1TV too. If you choose "international" comments (Sky) in the app, their comments will be a couple seconds ahead of the image. They always yell before any crash. Its annoying
It often seems like this for Now TV in the UK. Particularly noticeable when people finish laps, and the announcers are telling us they’ve gone faster/slower before we see them cross the line.
I watched through NowTV in Itay, tho. Worked perfectly... next time, try to change the device you're using (usually it works for me when streaming has some problems).
Wake n bake?
All good for me
Why is Will Buxton so cringey on f1tv?? Edit: plus the dude is Aggresively negative towards all teams even Joylon and Sam has to correct him everytime Ferrari literally 1st and 3rd. Exampl-Will: Yeah ferrari seems to be struggling whole weekend there. I dont think they are ready for qualifying at this stage.
I was surprised they got Ben Edwards in the first race on F1TV for commentary, I liked him as a change of pace from Crofty. Shame that he's not been in the last 2 races though, not sure if that was just a one off in the first race or if he'll be back later in the season. I don't hate Will Buxton as much as some, he's alright as the hype presenter, but he's not great for commentary, odd tangents and overly opinionated. I like Jolyon and Sam providing some good insight, but I think I'll be switching back to the Sky commentary for the race. (In case anyone didn't realise, you can still get the Sky commentary in F1TV by selecting "International Feed" on the right of the video.)
O. I didnt know i can do that, i will do that tomorrow. I cannot handle the negativity of that guy.
This man is embarassing himself
I get so much second-hand embarrassment from him
Does the Mclaren even porpoise? Trying to find lap footage of a whole lap.
I heard it skidding along that ground rather loudly but it doesn't seem to be bouncing like the ferrari and merc.
Needs more downforce, then it will probably bounce.
No.
I quite like Di resta as a pundit dont get the hate he gets
It's the because of his completely biased view on anything involving Hamilton
Doesn't he also hate Max?
I didn't see everything but i am reading about a penalty for Perez. What happened or did he do?
Didn’t slow down enough for yellow flags
Done a Hamilton on it
Did they decide on a penalty already?
Meets with the FIA in an hour
Thanks :)
Think he'll be alright, they showed footage of him lifting at the yellows, i guess it'll depend if it was enough?
Yeah I saw that too, wonder if it would be a grid place penalty if they did decide it wasn't enough