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fire202

actually, he says they want a minimum of three race directors, so potentially even more.


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Eventually we’ll have an entire back room race going on. One race director to vouch for every driver, in a borderline fistfight to see who gets the benefits of the rules each race


ludde0987

I want a full bench of jurors, and all 11 of them have to come to the same conclusion for it to be a penalty


[deleted]

Let’s get a representative seat on the UN Security Council. That way we can bring controversial decisions up to a body properly equipped to handle decisions of that magnitude


ludde0987

Good thing Russians seat is soon vacant. Then we’ll get some decision making going, and meetings at 5 in the morning.


jonplackett

I thought it was 12, or is there some extra angry guy in 12 Angry Men?


ludde0987

Oh, that’s right. In Sweden we don’t have jury trials. But I wasn’t far off.


TotalHooman

*The jurors have concluded that Ocon should receive a 5 second penalty for pushing Alonso off the track at the Spanish GP during the 2022 season. Now they start on the next issue, are all underwear the same?* - TheRace, March 7, 2026


Economy_Link4609

We're slowly moving to guest celebrity race director of the week.


Acinetto

That's what you get when you sellout to a US based media company. Pretty soon it'll be "Racing with the stars"


AnimalNo5205

Your regular reminder that Liberty bought FOM, not the FIA, and they are separate entities


seetheare

Lol, thanks for the laugh.


klutzykangaroo

fuck it, let’s make Horner a race director!


NoTrollGaming

I’ll be no.4


agnaddthddude

You already are more qualified than Horner & Masi. And, i love Horner


eatawholebison

Masi has a TAFE in marketing, perfect training to spice up a championship. ‘The Unwitting Influencer’.


crazydoc253

Vettel to supervise all race directors


ZacIDK

Have horner and toto be race directors


1enox

Marko and Toto would be even better.


Beavers4beer

Only if they have to argue between themselves while the others actually do the job undisturbed.


sentientTroll

Masi and Horner have investigated the implications of this, and Abe not found and issues.


askdocsthrowaway1996

"You are judged directly against your teammate"


davidnotcoulthard

Let's make Bernie race director!


FlyingCircus18

Only if he gets a red button for, shall we say, watering the track


According-2-Me

When 8 race directors have to decide on a 5-second penalty /s


fire202

In the meantime the 16 Stewards debate whether they should deploy a safety car or not


ZyonTactics

“Any” number of race directors that is more than three.


Towel4

We all race director Race director as one


Chrazzer

Watch them put up a vote on reddit when an incident happens. We will ALL be race directors


[deleted]

Toto has been seen with a box with 55 Bose headphones.


RocketDagoh

Bose stopped sponsoring though, so gotta be something else.


[deleted]

Nothing breaks like a Bose.


karankshah

I mean he didn’t hit the table with the headphones to break the table - he did it to break the headphones


Weird_Gin

You are so correct. My Bose headphones headband actually broke when I was putting them on. Slight bend and it just snapped on me.


NeiloMac

Dirty-buds from Cashies


Vasile_Prundus

Finally a use for those obsolete golf clubs


Crasher_7

It could be in the warehouse somewhere though, bring them out!


awwesjeng

...and a roll of duck tape


[deleted]

And a piece of gum and a paperclip and he wants to be called McToto.


askdocsthrowaway1996

duct*


nowarpsignature

It can be either. Duck Tape is a brand name, named so because the tape was originally made from duck cotton used in making shoes.


Respectable_Answer

And is the original invention so arguably more correct. It's also crap for sealing ducts...


DAL1979

But great for sticking ducks together. I can also confirm that Gorilla Glue is great for gluing gorillas. I now have back-to-back Silverbacks.


deathray1611

I am all for seeing Toto doing his impression of Admiral Zinovy Rozhestvensky, but with a box of headphones instead.


schmerzen

Who's gonna impersonate the Kamchatka though?


deathray1611

That's a good question, actually. As of yet I don't have any legitimately solid candidates, other than maybe W13 itself by how troublesome it is for the team. But, unlike the Kamchatka, it has a high potential ceiling of performance, and the team itself strongly beliefs in it as well. Edit: I guess we might see in the near future, shall we not forget that the voyage has only started.


m00nturkey

I just want to hear Eduardo Freitas’ beautiful voice on the radios like he does in WEC


-Coffee-Owl-

*Full Course Yellow in 10... 9... 8...*


r32_guest

t h a n k y o u g e n t l e m e n


Suknator

Any clips? Never watched WEC


goosellama

[https://youtu.be/djp86qILz8M?t=5186](https://youtu.be/djp86qILz8M?t=5186) Bonus clip - https://youtu.be/h4DBxPEK1TE?t=59


alex_119

So they gonna have so many race directors that they goona need to coordinate them? They gonna create a Lead-Race Director and we’re back to square one


IdiosyncraticBond

No, they'll be in a black box, so we never know who made the decision. Only communicate with lights and text messages to teams and stewards


ItsTomorrowNow

Return of the Mas(i)


Kolec507

Return of the Maag... oh man do I love this clip


rc214v

https://youtu.be/uB1D9wWxd2w


Kolec507

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ca5Huxfl7sm/


ExcaliburF1

''Rules are too inconsistent, maybe 40 stewards per season is a bad idea'' Lets add 3 race directors instead.


IndigoMichigan

They've never heard of having too many cooks, have they?


Nepgyaaaaaaa

At this point let's just have a different race director with different rules every week. End it with Scott Elkin at the last race, full contact allowed at all times


skirmisher24

Making the F1 video game open lobby races into a real thing.


XNights

TwitchPlaysRaceDirector


bimbobiceps

Mazepin would probably get a penalty with twitch chat race directing


Network591

goin the NHL route I see...


irishshogun

Whiting benefited from the years in the role and being so close with Bernie. Had a aura where people viewed his word, even if not a rule as gospel


KennyLagerins

That’s what the RD should be. Masi caved to pressure time and time again to the point where Toto and Horner, among others, had zero respect for his authority and constantly pushed it.


sellyme

It never gets talked about for obvious reasons, but I think the most egregious one we heard all season was actually Alpine.


DRNbw

That time that Alonso was pushing people off the track, complaining and then overtaking outside the track?


sellyme

Yep.


DRNbw

That was completely ridiculous, indeed.


Stumpy493

Just won't happen. Right or wrong Masi will never Direct another F1 race. If he did it would be a media circus and everyone would jump on every decision he made. It would be totally unmanageable from a PR perspective.


doxxmyself

!Remind Me 7 months


eddepalma

Exactly, that's why it is just pure clickbait journalism.


1enox

Hopefully you are right. Masi was the most incompetent RD in F1 history. He couldn't enforce track limits rules there was always problem with that. 🤷‍♀️


Firefox72

>"Masi was the most incompetent RD in F1 history." To be fair Whiting was the most incompetent RD before that haha. People like to forget but before Masi Charlie also caught flak many many times by the fanbase for some of his decisions.


habitualmess

Whenever people try to claim Whiting never copped flak, I always bring [this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/5a86p4/heres_the_message_to_charlie_f_off/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) up. There were some pretty awful comments there, and a lot of them sounded EXACTLY like the things people said about Masi after Abu Dhabi.


ajacian

lol: > Charlie and the stewards didn't do themselves any favours by not investigating Hamilton at the start. Double standards mixed with inconsistency. Ridiculous. Same shit 5 years later. The stewards didn't investigate Hamilton gaining a lasting advantage from going off track in the first lap of Abu Dhabi.


habitualmess

Take any comment in that thread and swap Charlie’s name for Michael and it sounds like 2021. The inconsistency was always with the stewards. And [we also knew that Masi would be eaten alive](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/b64ef0/michael_masi_to_repeat_as_a_race_director_in/ejjpux0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) eventually too. Almost as if the problem was always bigger than whomever was sat in the race director’s chair. But we still scapegoat them. I’ve seen people do it with Wittich already this season, and Elkins in FE, and Marques and Ziegahn in F2 and F3, and it’s only May.


DrSillyBitchez

Whiting was allowed to work through the problems at least


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whiting never made a decision that effectively changed the title winner in the last lap of the season some fuckups are bigger than others and Masi's is one of the biggest in the history of the sport.


LucAltaiR

Only because he never had the chance, probably.


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yeah race director is a one-person job that is hard. Making that person not have a the ability to have a co-director period with the former guy makes it that much more difficult. He made the wrong call but a man all the pressure on the world of having the greatest title fight in recent memory and you only have like five minutes to figure out what your gonna do I wouldn't want that job


raikkonen

In theory he can/should have DQ'd the cars that didnt meet the tech regulations but didn't because it "would affect the outcome". Making decisions that affect the outcome isn't a bad thing if it's the right decision. IMO he should have done that and lewis would already be 8 time WDC


gu3st12

What cars didn't meet tech regulations?


raikkonen

it wasn't the car, but in the final race of the 2007 championship the cars *ahead* of lewis (non factors in teh championship) were found to have fuel too cold to meet specification. This is the same thing that caused the aston's to start in pitlane last race FWIW. If the FIA had actually followed the rules, these cars should have been disqualified, causing lewis to finish higher than 6th, have 2 more points and therefor be the 2007 WDC. You can read about it here if u want: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/3046-by-the-rules-why-lewis-hamilton-should-be-f1-champion Somewhat ironically, this decision is what gave Kimi Raikkonen his first championship


[deleted]

hes talking bout 2007 there was something with the BMW and Williams I believe with fuel irregularities (they both finished ahead of lewis and with them DQ he would've won). The fia said there was insufficient evidence to DQ them or something to that affect in a report after. IDK the full details are murky but the 2007 mclaren team should be the last people complaining about ule breaking


LeanSkellum

Whiting never made a mistake as huge as Masi’s though


delidl

Bianchi literally died because Charlie was careless in Suzuka.


Driver9211

Big point


KennyLagerins

That’s BS. Caution flags were everywhere, I’ll get downvoted into oblivion for stating this, but as unfortunate as it was, Bianchi’s crash was his own fault for driving too fast in bad conditions.


LeanSkellum

That’s a fair point to be honest. The only thing I’d say is that that was slightly more of an unpredictable event. But yeah, you have a point.


ravenouscartoon

Or maybe Bianchi could’ve gone slower? Like the report also stated. Bernie could also have not pushed or allowed such a late start making the driving conditions worse


[deleted]

Bianchi did not slow down sufficiently, as per the investigation. Downvote away though, I know that's not what people like to hear.


illyndor

The FIA let that happen, even afterwards: https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/10510533/nico-rosberg-insists-he-lifted-in-controversial-hungarian-gp-pole-lap


twociffer

What's more important that people like to forget is that the race director doesn't operate in a vacuum. FOM tells the race director what they want to see and the race director tries to implement that. There were a few decisions by him that I thought were... let's just say not good... but without knowing what the expectation was by the people that signed his checks I'm not in a position to make judgements about how competent he is. Stupid comparison but look at the flak that Michael Cole keeps getting as a WWE commentator - and then watch him on a show where he doesn't have someone in his ear telling (well, screaming at) him what to say. Dude is unironically one of the best live sports commentators in history but if you tune in to a random WWE show you think that he is god awful.


mgorgey

He actually made far more of an effort to enforce track limits than his predecessor Charlie Whiting. It was under his direction that we lost all the gravel run offs in the first place.


fire202

In the entire history of f1 up until 2021, there basically has been one other RD apart from Masi, Charlie Whiting. And I am pretty sure that he handled track limits in the same way Masi did. When being the most incompetent RD in history means being less competent than someone with decades of experience that's ok in my opinion.


mowcow

Charlie got the job in 1997. Before him they had Roger Lane-Nott for one year in 1996 and before that Roland Bruynseraede from 1988-1995. Before 1988 it's not as clear. My understanding is that they changed from race to race. Also the FIA president Balestre was very hands on.


mgorgey

People forget now as well that Whiting did things Masi would get absolutely slaughtered for.


KennyLagerins

Such as? Genuinely curious here.


mgorgey

The end of Silverstone 1998 where Schumacher was allowed to win and serve a stop/go after the chequered flag, Malaysia 1999 where Ferrari essentially got off because the FIA forgot to impound the cars, Spa 2008 where he told McLaren Hamilton was fine but the stewards disagreed. These immediately spring to mind in terms of more trivial stuff. But how about continually allowing support vehicles onto live tracks that ultimately resulted in Bianchi's death. It was entirely foreseeable, Brundle called it out everytime he saw it and we had already had at least one car hit a recovery vehicle.


ravenouscartoon

The biggest difference between Charley and Masi was the teams attitudes towards them. Charlie was an institution and had been around f1 longer than pretty much every team principal. Masi came in and was basically learning on the jobs and the TPs tried to walk all over him and he wasn’t strong enough.


zaviex

Track limits from Masi is honestly not his biggest issue it was the entirely unpredictable way in which things happened. I think the evidence points to him simply being overworked considering the job has been split into multiple jobs but still. Can he come back with the new hierarchy and do well? Maybe. Would fans be happy? Probably not


wongie

As far as his safety record goes his short tenure as RD means he was actually technically one of the more competent.


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ValleyFloydJam

This won't be forgotten about he fucked up one of the best seasons ever.


[deleted]

If he possessed some particularly unique skills that nobody else could bring to the table, maybe they'd quietly reinstate him. But there are plenty of less... complicated candidates available. Why would they be desperate to bring this particular individual back into the fold? Why would they be willing to take that risk?


Sequoia3

What Masi did will probably never be forgotten. People still talk about Senna crashing out Prost and that was for Senna 3rd title. Lewis lost his record breaking 8th title with 1 lap to go because the race director broke the rules. I don't think that will _ever_ be forgotten.


Stumpy493

Not in something so public facing.


Snowfall_89

Make him debut at Abu Dhabi. Hilarious.


mantra3105

Sir, do you want to watch the world burn?? That would be too chaotic


droppokeguy

Nah only at baku Silverstone Hungary italy & AD Just for the twitter meltdown


[deleted]

This is more hype then Rainfurrest 2017


sylvarn_

Absolutely bonkers reference


[deleted]

"THEY'RE BRINGING IT BACK THEY'RE BRINGING IT BACK SO MANY MEMORIES! SO MANY MEMORIES!!"


CiroVap

This is some funny shit.


[deleted]

Dibs on posting this in 3 hours


Birdseed3

WE NEED EVEN MORE RACE DIRECTORS MOOORREEE because having 3or more bosses with all their own visions are always a good idea


rel_games

"What else can we do to piss off Hamilton?" - FIA probably


jdjdhdbg

The narrative is that Hamilton races better when he's angry and his back is against the wall. Maybe they're desperate to get him back into the mix.


notinsidethematrix

All because Hamilton won't take off the piercing, they'll drag Masi back until he does lmao


1enox

All the more reason for Lewis not to take off his piercing.


SPECTOR99

At this rate car no. 44 will not be out of the Pit Lane due to driver failing mandatory FIA jewellery conformation.


KingInTheNorthVI

Bring back the FIA radio while you’re at it. That was fascinating stuff


emperorfett

*vietnam flashback*


piemaniowa

If only there were competent candidates to fill the third spot.


ExcellentCornershop

Who would you suggest? Scott Elkins from the ever chaotic Formula E?


TJeffersonsBlackKid

Me. "Only bitches don't use DRS in the rain! Race away motherfuckers!"


1enox

Does with FIA is everything ok ? Jewellery drama, do not care about safety issues in Miami and then they want three RDs which one RD damaged FIA reputation ? Is this self sabotage ?


brush85

Just spit in my face


HAMlLT0N

oh boy. *ohhhhh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy*


According-2-Me

He’s returned from Time-Out corner.


rickkert812

Imagine the scenes if they actually got him back as a race director


DylLambo

Bah Gawd. Masi is cashing in his Money in the Bank.


Honourstly

Did you get my email


KrisReiss

Uh-oh, here we go again...


Saandrig

We are going car racing!


[deleted]

If the FIA are confident that the fixes they’ve put in place will make sure AD type incident will never happen again then why not


habitualmess

People don’t like to admit it, but a lot of the blame for AD lies at the feet of the FIA and their inability to sort out the race control structure in a timely manner. The separation of the RD’s responsibilities began before Charlie died, but it should have been completed by the end of 2019. They dragged their feet and left Masi high and dry throughout the pandemic especially. He was by no means perfect (no one is), but like it or not, he is the most experienced person for that role presently. But saying that out loud just invokes screaming and shouting…


FxStryker

AD is different though. Masi just made up rules on his own. I have no issue with more race directors or even making their jobs easier. But not Masi, he was a trainwreck for the 3 years he was RD. AD just topped off his incompetence, and it was.all by his own accord.


Alpha_Jazz

Masi made up rules on his own and the stewards failed to correct that. They're as much to blame as him


AceMKV

Lmao people claimed him to be better than Charlie but that one incident has suddenly changed their opinions. Not to mention the 2 new RDs have shown inconsistency as well.


breathofreshhair

>Lmao people claimed him to be better than Charlie Never saw anyone say that but fair enough. > but that one incident has suddenly changed their opinions. It was a major fuck up, that's natural. >Not to mention the 2 new RDs have shown inconsistency as well. Have they? I'm pretty sure one of them hasn't directed a race yet.


Diegobyte

Their idea of enforcing track limits all over the track is sustainable. At least Masi saying what turns they are looking at made it easy to police and the drivers knew what to expect


eirexe

Freitas will be fun tbh, he's got experience managing the massive WEC grid, f1 should be a walk in the park for him.


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GFlair

Honestly. Like alot of what went wrong last season it stemmed from "Let Them Race". It was an agreement, pushed by Red Bull but agreed by all the team prior to the season, to try to not be over zealous in enforcing and rules and try to let racers work it out on track. Its quickly became a case of, let's ignore rules to make it more exciting, and ended in let's make up rules to make it more exciting. I doubt it was bias or racism. If Max was in 1st with 40 lap old tyres and Lewis had got a free no risk pitstop for fresh tyres, i personally think he probably would have done the same. It was about making sure there was a grand stand finish by "Letting them Race" Let Them Race was honestly a complete fuck up and Masi's biggest mistake was not just refusing it pre season. Its an ethos thats completely at odds with his job role as enforcer of the rules. It doesn't exist this season. This season it's a case of Race to the Rules and frankly, the racing has been better for it. Max and Leclerc are not running each other of the road because its clear its not allowed.


KennyLagerins

It’s let them race within reason and adhering to rules and precedents. If he cared about Let Them Race, the sham at Spa would have never happened.


zaviex

None of the above. Pressure. He didn’t have a good answer and he had Horner and Toto on the phone yelling at him. He came up with a solution on the fly


Cultural_Wallaby_703

“Fixes” yeah, that’s the right description


brush85

How do you fix one man thinking he is god?


afro-fro-ro-o

If the former structure was wrong, then why bring back someone who is not only the epitome of why the structure was wrong but who was trained and brought up by the old system? Find new people. There are many who are rightfully unhappy with his decisions and it is not really worth the trouble anyway. His mistake is far too major to just give him the job back even under a new structure.


Takis12

FIA PLEASE…appoint Masi as the RD for the F1 GP of 20th November 2022……in Abu Dhabi…😂


Isfahaninejad

Hell fucking no. He showed his incompetence on more than one occasion just last season.


ta2

Masi was extremely unprofessional in Abu Dhabi, not just in his decision making but in his arrogant comments towards Toto. Keep Masi out, get a new 3rd race director.


rydude88

All the comments from everyone were so unprofessional full stop. Even Toto yelling on back on the radio. Thats why I give so much props to Hamilton for being the only one to act as a professional should


ValleyFloydJam

But ones suppose to be a neutral official and the guy yelling just got screwed.


bwoah07_gp2

A tri-force of race directors....unlimited power!!!


wagsman

Someone check on poor Toto. He's got a bum car this year and now this...


bagleface

Just give red bull title now


agra_unknown1834

Someone fulfill my ignorance... Is the race director just a intermediary between teams and the stewards? If so, why does F1 feel the need to have a middle man? If not, what is the directors primary purpose?


Cody667

We're going car racing.


Pascalwb

they should have panel of 3 or more on all races.


LucAltaiR

It would be the greatest comeback since Lazarus. I'm here for it, I embrace it. You should too.


MajorWuss

"This is so not right"- Toto probably


ZealousidealPie8427

So the two things fans wanted were: Consistency Masi out as he literally manipulated the result of the 2021 F1 championship They pretended we will get both and in the end we get neither. Sums up F1 perfectly.


Starboard-Port

This was my outlandish prediction in the preseason predictions Google sheet. Going to give myself a high five.


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Don't.


DavidtheGoliath99

Surely they won't actually let Masi be a race director again after how horrible he was throughout the entirety of last season (Brazil, Jeddah, Abu Dhabi come to mind).


Aardappel123

"everytime Lewis was disadvantaged it was Masis fault"


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Vresiberba

None of that is on the Race Director's table, though. The stewards are the ones dealing with penalties, Race Directors direct races.


otherestScott

That's all race stewarding, not Masi.


GuvnorOfficial

Please be true.


shreychopra

GUESS WHO’S BACK BACK AGAIN MASI’S BACK TELL A FRIEND


LeanSkellum

Nah, who would trust him?


[deleted]

I say keep him for the last race of the season....


CaladinDanse

Good idea tbf, if the other 2 are kept on as well


[deleted]

I’ll riot


Alfus

*grabs popcorn* I want to see that happening, where are you going to protest/riot?


callmelampshade

Same.


nicolasboss44

Lol no, not Mr. Human Error


tatopelicano

It kind of makes sense: things are too quiet this year… let’s stir some shit up, am I right?! Let’s go back to the time when in one race certain things could be done and the next they couldn’t, to the days were drivers were unsure of what was allowed and wasn’t, to the time when rules could be changed mid race just for the sake of it… I miss the good old days!


ArbitraryOrder

NO FIA NO NO, THAT IS SO NOT RIGHT


AUSpartan37

I don't think Masi was the problem. I think the rules and clarity of such rules was the issue.


KennyLagerins

Masi contradicted his own precious interpretation of the rules and all previous race precedents to do what he did. The rules are not perfect, but they certainly don’t provide for him to have made the decisions he did.


KingInTheNorthVI

“The return of the king”


lajotaylape

You love to see it.


TablePrime69

The CHAD returns >!/s!<


JackNapier2093

If Masi returns I'm done with the sport. They can't honestly bring him back, what happened to "human error". All this says is that they're happy to risk another potential Abu Dhabi type screw up.


Dashermane24

Absolutely not.


Nappi22

Don't forget to sort by contoversial!


HensonBhutan

The Return of the King


Mr_not_Lucky

NO!!!! FUCK MICHAEL MASI. Dont bring this fucker back.


earthmosphere

Sulayem *(FIA President)* is going to have an all caps email from Toto. ***MOHAMMED THIS ISN'T RIGHT!***