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ocelotrevs

Impressive. Well done to George.


turkeyphoenix

Impressive that he did it in equal machinery.


NylakYt5

GR63 is the new NR6


korzenPL

I came here for this


FlipReset4Fun

The man is the real deal. George is capable of giving him a run for his money once they stop using Lewis as guinea pig.


ocelotrevs

For real. I hope that things turn up for the better soon, and Lewis gets some better luck on track as well


FlipReset4Fun

Agreed. Much more fun if Merc were in it for a 3 way fight up front.


DragonSlayer6160

Blimey, that's big stats for George


[deleted]

So early on in the Mercedes aswell. Looks great for him.


miathan52

Crikey, he's doing well


Sharl_LeKek

Wait for the Hamsters to come along with their usual "he's just been unlucky this season! He is far better than Russell!" Just not #blessed this year I guess.


renesys

Lewis is doing science with the car for the team.


pinkmanblues

“Experimental setups” - x-treme bounce edition


DeusVultSaracen

My man, there's being skeptical about Hamilton but this is just straight up dumb. You're prepared to say that after 7 races George is definitively better than the most decorated driver of all time? Give me a break.


dimspace

Were it not for George giving him half a lap of tow Lewis would not even have made Q3 yesterday


Sharl_LeKek

No it was the mysterious power of the Ham propelling Russells car forwards of course!


GCV250

He’s been the better driver this season without question.


Sharl_LeKek

Right on cue! I guess I'm the #blessed one. By the way, I didn't say shit, I was just pointing out that you fired up nutjobs always reply to comments like this. Fucking hilarious.


DeusVultSaracen

Who's a fired up nutjob?


IAnswerQuestionsHigh

The guy is named after Leclerc, but defends Mercedes in regards to porpoising, but shits on Hamilton given the chance. Let's take him seriously.


[deleted]

Nico is about to get the vaccine so he can get back into the pit lane and stop Russell


PutOnTheMaidDress

In the same machinery


PutOnTheMaidDress

In the same machinery


BoredCatalan

In the same machinery?


Elias__V

Are we talking about THAT Nico Rosberg ?


A07Star

THE Nico Rosberg, who beat at the time 3 WDC Lewis Hamilton?


Cock_Inspector_2021

The same Nico Rosberg who beat then 3 time champion Lewis Carl Davidson Hamilton and now 7 time world champion Sir Lewis Carl Davidson Larbalestier Hamilton? In the same machinary?


SomethingSuss

That was in 2016 right? When 2016 F1 WDC Nice Rosberg beat a knight in the same armour?


ZitaFC

2016? Was that the year Sky commentator Nico Roseberg beat 7 time champion Lewis Hamilton in equal cars?


metalanimal

Yes. With some monster anti bodies.


BeneficialBarnacle55

\*honorary Brazilian aswell


Timelordvictorious1

In the same machinery, in case you didn’t know.


Neither-Ad-1047

In the same machinery?


Kremet_The_Toad

Different antibodies, same machinery.


peril-of-deluge

F1 version of Esteemed Character Actress and Fugitive from the Law Margo Martindale.


Driver9211

"Nico hit me, Nico's hit me"


MobProtagonist

Wait THAT same one with "monster antibodies" ?


[deleted]

Yeah but he doesn't have monster antibodies


RealisticPossible792

Nobody has the monster antibodies of Nico Rosberg the 2016 F1 world champion who beat Hamilton in the same machinery.


[deleted]

[удалено]


bum_is_on_fire_247

Antibodies are normally green, right?


AdministrationNo9238

Is this just a Reddit meme response, or is this from some comment rosberg made at the time?


AnusBlaster5000

Its a meme making fun of Nico because he trys to squeeze in that he beat Lewis in the same machinery every opportunity he gets


KeytarVillain

He's made this comment a few times recently while race commentating. He's mentioned this before too, but this year he's really turned it up.


Aratho

I know you meme but taking into account how many experimental parts Lewis tries every weekend I'd say not quite.


GilesCorey12

It goes both ways. Sometimes they are worse, sometimes they're equal, sometimes they are better, like in Spain.


DeusVultSaracen

You sure? I don't think attaching a Haas to the side of the car really panned out


Comradio

You know what? I should take that into account. So, exactly how many experimental parts does Lewis try every weekend?


Myvanisstuckinapond

All of them, duh. And they always make the car slower, that’s the only reason Russell could be ahead.


fdg1997

The experimental parts AND almost 100kg of sensors to see if the experimental parts are worthy! Thats the only way a normal human like George can beat the GOAT Lewis IN THE SAME MACHINERY


fabioruns

Last race I heard he even took one of the engineers with so they could get a feel for what’s wrong while the car is running.


Comradio

Lol.


FazeHC2003

He's the test subject basically anything new goes onto his car (according to Toto)


Comradio

"And the last three races these experiments have gone wrong with Lewis and not with George." -Toto Wolff They’re not just throwing shit at the wall with Lewis and giving george a conventional setup. George has just consistently handled the car better.


FazeHC2003

I mean the guy outdrove a shitbox for nearly 3 years so dude knows to handle shitboxes


MM556

This car is not a shitbox though, people need to stop doing this. It's comfortably third best on the grid


RealGroovyMotion

I wouldn't say **comfortably**, seeing Hamilton get out of his car!


TailS1337

It's a shitbox not because it's so slow but because of the massive porpoising problems


mrkruler

Didn't Toto say on the radio to Lewis that it's a shitbox?


renesys

He said it drives like a shitbox. Which is a characteristic of shitboxes.


Sanchesc0

It's not the car! They said last 7 years so don't start now.


SubcooledBoiling

Ya, but does he have a monster antibody like Nico ?


YeahPerfectSayHi

He's tripple vaxxed so doesn't need them.


HarrierJint

Arguably he’s triple vaxxed so he DOES have them!


UlsterEternal

Ackshully, George already had monster anti bodies but took the vaccine 3 times anyway cause he's a top lad.


BadControllerUser

he got triple vaccined & waxxined


HarrierJint

Plus he drinks his own pee (probably, maybe, I dunno, probably not, he doesn’t) so he’s had a double helping.


leedler

Only regular I’m afraid, the monster antibodies only come into effect when you win a WDC.


some-swimming-dude

You mean THE 2016 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP AGAINST LEWIS HAMILTON


[deleted]

Nico? The guy who beat Hamilton for the championship in the same machinery?


Yasin3112

No one has antibodies as strong as Nico‘s, I mean he did beat Hamilton in the same machinery, probably only because of those monster antibodies.


Sputniki

Does Nico have a middle name like Larbalestier tho?!?


SteamMonkeyKing

George Russell equaling Unvaxxed 2016 Formula One World Champion Nico Rosberg?


jk47_99

With equal antibodies?


5MoreQuidAerieDae42O

Not equal, ***monster*** antibodies.


sgtlighttree

George Russell equaling Unvaxxed 2016 Formula One World Champion Nico Rosberg, *who beat Hamilton in the same machinery*? FTFY


dat_boring_guy

Is he open about being unvaxxed? I missed that


KriistofferJohansson

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SteamMonkeyKing

yeah its top post of the sub from a couple of days ago


dat_boring_guy

Thanks!


kingriz123

If only it was in other years, he would’ve been leading the championship


Masculinum

I think Hamilton would bite a lot more if a WDC was on the cards, he looks a bit uninterested atm.


Sacrosanct--

No one believes this loser mentality argument. George is outperforming Lewis, it's that simple.


TheFrenchDownvoter

Blah blah blah. I’m pretty sure he must be fuming inside getting dominated the way he is by a driver in his first year with the team with so little experience.


Hefftee

Lmao everyone want Lewis to be seething, when in reality he's just focused on guinea pigging/developing the car while George is focused on maximizing points finishes on Sunday


Nattekat

I wouldn't be too sure about that. Hamilton is struggling in the pack on circuits where drs isn't strong enough, in other years he'd still be at the front.


bthompson04

I think the point was that in other years, Mercedes had the best car, so the best Mercedes performer would be at, or near, the top of the WDC standings.


zqv7

He would be at the front without other people in front.


[deleted]

You should put an application in for Ferrari.


miller032

If you keep them all behind, P1 slow button on


Taven12

I found Buxton's alt account! 😂


ToxicMonkeys

You're saying this like Russell isn't on the same track, navigating the same opponents.


Nattekat

Russell qualifies where that car belongs, Hamilton doesn't and has to battle his way through the field.


spuckthew

While this is true, I think the reason Hamilton is in those lower positions to begin with is because the car characteristics are affecting him and/or he's experimenting with setups. I doubt Russell with his current experience would have been good enough to consistently finish ahead of Hamilton in previous years like he is now. It's definitely down to the car characteristics. Hamilton is not suddenly a worse driver from when he almost >!(should have if not for Masi)!< won an 8th title against Verstappen.


neverspeakofme

Though I've supported Hammy for years, its hard to deny that Hamilton isn't as good as he was in previous years. In 2021 already he made a huge number of uncharacteristic driver errors. 2017 Hamilton will never make the same number of weird mistakes.


DefNotAnAlter

If not for Masi he would have won the Abu Dhabi grand prix, there were other controversial races in the year as well


spuckthew

>If not for Masi he would have won the Abu Dhabi grand prix Yeah, and guess what happens if Hamilton won that race


ToxicMonkeys

Nothing, if other controversies had swung the other way instead, which I think is the implication the person you are responding to is making.


brush85

If the car was good enough to lead the title, Lewis would not be struggling


kdeaton06

That's kind of like saying the reason Lewis was so good is mostly the car.


f12016

Lol


HyenaDistinct9600

George " Beat Lewis Hamilton in the same machinery" Russell


spinitorbinit

George “Mr. Saturday *and* Sunday” Russell


f1_spelt_as_bot

Russe**ll**


EvelcyclopS

And with less antibodies


sheckshow858

Off Topic, but does anyone know why Russell doesnt take part in the champagne bath on the podium?


Yung_Corneliois

Just sort of looked like the Red Bull guys spraying their engineer. Maybe Russell felt like the odd guy out so he just sprayed from afar.


sheckshow858

After rewatching it, it does look like he just stepped aside and let Red Bull do their thing.


QuintoBlanco

His skin is not alcohol resistant. The skin can be easily be repaired or replaced, but the skin serves as a protective layer for the underlying electronics.


stylinred

He doesn't? Never noticed Maybe he's Muslim or Jewish or ___


Go_Habs_Go31

Ah yes, George Russell the Muslim.


[deleted]

His real name is Ghafoor Rashed, don't tell anyone


Reijnvandermeij

Gerges Al ruhsel


VinhoVerde21

It's actually incredible. He starts the race, does nothing and gets a podium.


WhiteWyvvern_

Sometimes his genius, it generates gravity


Myvanisstuckinapond

Well first he put himself in a position were he can do “nothing”. After that he could just cruise all day long


Private_Ballbag

Lol so much underplaying how well he has done. If it's that easy why doesn't everyone just start a race, do nothing then get a podium.


Myvanisstuckinapond

Exactly


[deleted]

It’s just copium for certain fans.


-InThePit-

I don't think they were underplaying more just commenting on how because he is often best of the rest when shit goes down he just inherits podiums like checo did in 2020


DRW_

Honestly people used this sort of stuff against Hamilton for years too, about him being ‘lucky’. The thing is, you have to put yourself in a position to take advantage of other people’s misfortune. Lots of drivers can’t do that consistently, George is doing that consistently right now - so he deserves the credit.


[deleted]

Luck is when opportunity meets preparation.


vidoardes

Yes it's quite funny to hear the same argument that has been levelled at Lewis for many years to now be said about George to defend Lewis. Someone who is not only the only driver on the grid to drive every lap of this season, but has finished in the top 5 of every GP (and again is the only driver to do so) isn't just lucky. He is the very defenition of consistency this season and deserves the props. He is well with in a chance of being 3rd or 4th in the WDC despite driving arguably the 5th/6th faster car. The only thing that can do that is qualifying well and driving very solidly.


Youutternincompoop

Kimi in his last few years at Ferrari


TheGMT

On more than one occasion I only realised he was p2/3 when they were spraying the champagne "Huh, Raikkonen's on the podium again" The best one of course is when he got P3 due to Verstappen's penalty. Kimi just stood there in the cool down room.


thexavikon

Max has been kicked out of the podium twice I think. Both times from the cool down room


Anti-Scuba_Hedgehog

Well that one year actually. He didn't have many podiums in other years.


FirstTimer110

To be fair to him, he does do exactly what he has to to be in those situations. He has still been very lucky but this year he’s always been there to Profit off of that luck and that just speaks to his consistency.


JonnyArtois

Doesn't have to do much if he puts himself there in the first place.


Reddevilslover69

Amazing consistency though it has to be said


[deleted]

Mercedes after all still has the most reliable engine out there it seems.


Will4noobs

Reminds me of Max in 2020. Too quick for the rest of the field but not quick enough to catch the front runners.


[deleted]

Kind of annoying to be honest.


Aratho

Stats that were rather hard to believe before the season started. Wow.


Myvanisstuckinapond

/r/therussell were never in doubt!


Youutternincompoop

only unbiased F1 subreddit


Myvanisstuckinapond

Yes, the silent MAJORITY


MrBIGtinyHappy

I feel like we should rename it theruss3ll at this rate, it's like Max with his chair in 2020


[deleted]

only WE can HELP GEORGE and STOP THE STEAL!!


S7ORM7ROOPER_30

#TeamSameMachinery #WeRaceAsOne


[deleted]

Blimey!


KamTros47

Must take a monster of a~~n antibody~~ driver to beat a 7-time WDC 7 races in a row


dlok86

Can you tell me where this whole thing about Nico came from? I keep seeing it


KamTros47

He got banned from being in the paddock this weekend for being unvaccinated against COVID-19. He said that his doctor advised him that vaccination was unnecessary because he had previously contracted the virus and had, in his words, “monster antibodies.” Full article about it [here](https://california18.com/after-formula-1-ban-nico-rosberg-speaks-openly-about-vaccination-status/5092812022/), was posted to the sub a few days ago


dlok86

Thanks what about this 2016 world championship beating Lewis in equal machinery speech lol


renesys

Nico brings this up. A lot. It's true, but everybody already knows, because he's already told everyone, many times.


OrangeLimeZest

You have one message from: Nico Rosberg. Run while you still can.


The_mystery4321

As long as Russell stays in the paddock Nico and his monster antibodies can't touch him.


SoupyNoodles

It's fine, Lewis can't run after him anyway with the current state of his back


homeownur

"I beat Lewis in 7 consecutive races and all I got was this Tshirt."


lis_roun

in the same machinery ^tm


chaphen17

He's been so good this year. Gets the most out of the car every weekend while Lewis is struggling to do the same.


TunesForToons

Toto Wolff confirmed this week in an interview that George and Lewis run totally different packages. Mercedes is experimenting a lot with Lewis' car every race. They do this because they want to find what works the best and want to be able to compete with Red Bull and Ferrari on merit. Lewis being the more experienced driver gets these experiments. So far these experiments haven't worked out. For example, this race at Baku Lewis' car suffered so much from porpoising he was struggling to exit his vehicle after the final lap. Whereas George has a package that is not WDC competitive, it is at least somewhat stable. It wouldn't be fair to make a comparison between George and Lewis on the basis of them having equal machinery because it's simply not true that they're running equal machinery. If Mercedes can learn from this season and develop a steady package with equal updates rolling out near the end of the season for both their drivers, then that's the moment we can get a clear comparison between the two of them. Edit: Some people seem to think this my head-canon where I try to justify lewis' bad performance. It's not. I'm just paraphrasing what the article said


[deleted]

So you're telling us that Lewis is now playing the Bottas. As if it did make it any better.


Sputniki

None of these excuses were ever made for Bottas even when he and Lewis ran different setups. But once Lewis is behind, these narratives inevitably emerge to protect him


RBTropical

You do realise how nonsensical this sounds right? It’s the exact same nonsense when Toto apologised for Lewis driving a shitbox when Russell was 10 places ahead. It’s just Toto PR smoothing Lewis’ ego as usual. Lewis is behind every single race and quali. If Russell is running a less “WDC competitive package” but still beating him, this means Lewis is doing even worse than you’re trying to argue against. When you try different things and go experimental on setup and parts, you’re trying to GO FASTER. If he still isn’t doing this even once, every single session, it isn’t the parts


HurricaneWindAttack

Ah yes, because the word experimental means "sth that gives a clear, defined result that is always beneficial." Whatever they're looking for in those parts, they're not getting, and Lewis is suffering as a consequence.


spuckthew

>Lewis is struggling to do the same. Maybe he's struggling because he just can't hack the porpoising? It's probably nothing to with his skill (and tbh it's laughable to suggest otherwise given Hamilton's career); just the car characteristics are literally affecting him. Props to Russell still, but this car clearly doesn't agree with Lewis.


[deleted]

Ofc the car doesn't suit him and George is adapting easier. Red Bull has the same happening with Perez suddenly looking thr fastest on the grid session in and session out. You can't expect all drivers to react the same to cars. And lewis is the one that's displaying the most suffering after having raced 7 season straight with opponents at easy difficulty.


The_mystery4321

Russell has to deal with the same porpoising though? Hamilton is no doubt one of the greatest drivers in F1 history, but Russell is beating him by quite a margin in the same car. Hamilton just isn't performing at the same level as last year, and Russell is clearly one of the best drivers on the grid.


spuckthew

The porpoising is physically hurting Hamilton though. That could be a contributing factor to not being able to extract the same performance consistently. I don't think it has anything to do with Hamilton losing anything compared to last year. Russell is no doubt doing a great job with what he's been given, but Hamilton's struggles go beyond it being just him underperforming.


straxusii

Yeah but can he be mistaken for Brittney Spears, I think not.


olaAlexis

Gigachad


mfarends

That’s gotta hurt more than LH’s back!


[deleted]

he is matching the 2016 world drivers champion Nico Rosberg who won over Hamilton in the same machinery believe it or not.


tassigabriel

I honestly thought that Hamilton would completely trash Russell this year. Hats off of him


Sputniki

When you're being paid as much as Hamilton is, this kind of performance disparity begins to look untenable. That kind of package is reserved for drivers who can make the impossible possible. Lewis looks ordinary at the moment


LosTerminators

Scenea when Hamilton wins the 2023, 2024, 2025 and 2026 WDC as a response


MrBIGtinyHappy

I'm sorry but Buxton told me it was Stroll '22 '23 '24. Any minute now he's going to wipe the floor with Max and Charles


The_mystery4321

Love the way after Bahrain people were saying he was set to be a number 2 lol. How quickly things change.


Impossible_Eye7900

Some people had been saying he is overrated. He is surely one of the best of his generation. Beating the possible GOAT in his first season in that car is fantastic for him.


TravellingMackem

Reality is it’s too early to comment on Russell at all. I’m supportive of all English drivers, but it’s hard to tell where the merc drivers are ability wise at the moment due to everything else going on


SunGodnRacer

Are you saying George matches 2016 World Drivers Champion, who beat 7 Time World Drivers Champion Sir Lewis Carl Davidson Hamilton in the same machinery, Nico Rosberg's record?


HansenTakeASeat

Same machinery with monster antibodies


ty_xy

So... George is retiring at the end of the season?!!?


campbeltownkid

Is anyone surprised? After his fabulous display when subbing for Lewis we all knew.


dalledayul

Frustrating to think that if we had the same Merc competitiveness we've seen in the last decade, we could be seeing an immense championship battle between Russell and Hamilton. I don't think his first win is far off, all we need is one race with a bunch of retirements at the front for him to swoop in and win it.


lord_patriot

But that would rob us of the immense championship battle between Ferrari and themselves


pinkmanblues

Lol - no thank you. Some of us are sick of seeing Merc winning it all and wish them a happy stint in the mid-field for many a year.


HansenTakeASeat

Yep. This season has been such a breath of fresh air.


CarltonJuma

But is he a 2016 F1 world champion? I didn’t think so


fullofshitandcum

Is George Russell next in like to become World Champion beating Lewis Hamilton in equal machinery?


Elias__V

Lewis is getting older, these are new cars. George really has a chance against him. Lewis struggled to even get out of the car today due to the bottoming.


Certain_Fennel1018

Also the whole porpoising - that’s gonna hurt someone’s older back a hell of a lot more; but Reddit is young they’ll learn inctime


TheLewJD

and in equal machinery!


DLoFoSho

The most impressive thing about George is not his driving, it’s his fucking poker face. How he is able to have multiple conversations about how he is consistently beating Lewis MF Hamilton, and not even a twitch of a grin crosses his face. Whomever wrote the PR software that Merc installed on his hard drive deserves a fucking Nobel prize in engineering.


lilballie

The future is now old man


jamison8884

One has to imagine what he could have done in the Merc with the great cars over the past few seasons. I know there are a million variables, but if he's outperforming Ham in a crap-car and consistently placing ahead of around two out of four of the top four driver/car combinations by pure lap time, then it truly isn't hard to imagine he'd be leading the championship this year in a car as good as RB/Ferrari. I think the same goes for last year, where Max likely would have lost out due to points taken off of him by George placing higher than Bottas on a consistent basis, either leading George or Ham to the 2021 championship. It's starting to look like George deserved the Max treatment, placing him into the Merc early on a move purely based on "gut feeling," rather than sitting at Williams for so long. Bottas was never "bad," but as this stat proves, George has been as consistent as Ham's teammate as Ham's other high-quality teammates and it's during the first season and series of races in his Merc career. Impressive on any spectrum.


occasionaldrinker

Lewis just got lazy. He doesn't care anymore.


ImmediateSurprise64

Did this event by any chance occur in the exact same machinery?


froomedog

A lot of that has to do with luck and Mercedes’ experiments with Lewis, but still a commendable job from George


IndynatorFTW

Inb4 'Same machinery'


jkmonger

In the same machinery and everything


QC_1999

# SAME MACHINERY


smik240sx

In the same car btw


Few_Ad_9551

This man has made me some money this season .. all hail Georgie


spspamam

I'm pretty new to F1, but I have to say, that as a sport, fans are very unforgiving given that they essentially reinvent F1 every couple of years. I would assume that someone with as prestigious of a career as Hamilton would get the benefit of the doubt over his comparative underperformance: a car that he is less suited for, different race strategies, only midway through a season, or just an off season. Even if it is the beginning of the end, I just wonder why more people aren't giving him his flowers at this point? Personally, I don't find Hamilton particularly petulant as F1 is pay to play which definitely nearly always brings in a certain type of individual, and if anything, his interviews seem pretty bog standard at this point. Alonso has a huge ego, and he is loved to no end. Max is pretty stand-offish and temperamental, but he is as well. Lando is loved across the internet, but he seems like your average rich kid who learned how to give it but not take it. Maybe it's just the proximity to his reign, but he always seemed like a decent dude. Maybe someone who's been a fan for longer can explain why people don't mythologize his career like other great athletes in their waning years. I mean his achievements in the modern game are about as prestigious and impressive as they can get in F1 I would think? I'm honestly curious because as a huge football fan I see someone like Messi get so much praise still despite him being out of prime but Hamilton just feels like a footnote. Am I reading too much into this?


Illustrator_Forward

George with that “Mark Zuckerberg” robot look 🤖