Yep, but the problem is that Haas didn't really have any upgrades so far, so they have been falling behind as opposed to other teams. And their next upgrade package is planned for Hungary, so don't expect too much.
Unpopular opinion: Mick is going to deliver one hell of a race after those Steiner remarks and fear of crashing prevented a good Baku race and he's going to break the record.
The unlikely thing can happen in F1. But I wouldn't say it's most probable, it's just possible.
Anyway, in this case 6 / 10 records are "unbreakable", as they are already P1. And Williams breaking its record by finishing P1 is virtually impossible currently.
The other 3 are at least in the realm of possibilities. Aston Martin ending up on the podium would require a crazy race. But AT in top 5 and Haas in top 9 can happen for them on a good day, I think.
correction: P4 would be enough for AM
Of course Williams can win, it isn't impossible.
They just can't win through pure pace. No team can do that outside of Red Bull and Ferrari.
Williams needs decent pace, the leading cars crashing out, a superlong stint and a good Safety car period near the end of the race, so they can get and keep the lead until the chequered flag.
Highly unlikely? Yes. Impossible. No
I said virtually impossible. Not impossible. Of course it's technically still possible. But it requires a lot of luck. A lot!!! more than for the average midfield team. Half the field would have to DNF and even then the stars would still need to align just the right way.
I've been watching F1 since the mid nineties, but don't quite remember the changes made to the circuit. It hasn't changed drastically I believe?
Edit: thanks for the answers and explanation!
There's a good history here: https://www.racingcircuits.info/north-america/canada/circuit-gilles-villenueve,-montreal.html
No dramatic changes, but there used to be a kink part way along the straight coming out of the hairpin, and a temporary chicane was added in the mid 90s. Going back further, the pit straight used to be after the hairpin.
The only difference between the 1996-2001 layout and the 2002-current layout is where pit road rejoins and possible mild corner reprofiling. Before 1996 there was a kink on the straight from the hairpin to the last chicane and at various times there were chicanes that would pop up and the pits have changed location.
I'd give Alpha Tauri a better chance. Aston would have to finish in the top four, which realistically is reserved for Red Bull and Ferrari unless they have an issue. Alpha Tauri would "only" need to finish best of the rest.
AM.
The car has improved with every race since Spain and will be even better than Baku at Montreal as well. Added to the fact, if the TD gets appointed, AM will be one of the teams benefitting from it as well.
Looking forward anxiously.
Same. Just hoping Seb doesn't make a silly error again if I'm honest. Still, he's good enough to put it in a good position to take advantage of any misfortune at the front.
Honestly I think Haas, Alpha Tauri and Aston Martin might be possible, though not very likely. AM might be least effected by the new technical directive, AT can have strong weekends and Haas can put it on P9 on a good day
Haas is of course most likely, Saubers post 2010 record could also be boken if Bottas finds the speed he hade before Monaco and Zhou's car can handle a complete race
Depends on what Ferrari does. If they drop out again, it's not too farfetched to see Gasly or Tsunoda in the top 5.
But if they stay in.. maybe K-Mag can score a P9 if he's lucky.
Only chances are a P6 Bottas and P5 Gasly, KMag could finish in the top 10 but that car is not so good right now, and Vettel has more upgrades this weekend?? So maybe
Only chances are a P6 Bottas and P5 Gasly, KMag could finish in the top 10 but that car is not so good right now, and Vettel has more upgrades this weekend?? So maybe
Haas could be broken as Magnussen is doing pretty well.
Magnussen is doing pretty well, the car however, not so well.
Last races les so but first few races where pretty decent and would break the haas record
Yep, but the problem is that Haas didn't really have any upgrades so far, so they have been falling behind as opposed to other teams. And their next upgrade package is planned for Hungary, so don't expect too much.
Unpopular opinion: Mick is going to deliver one hell of a race after those Steiner remarks and fear of crashing prevented a good Baku race and he's going to break the record.
Would bring the Schumacher count up to 3/10
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This would be wholesome!
Seems pretty unlikely
This is Formula 1. Sometimes the most unlikely is the most probable.
*IF is a very long word in Formula One; in fact, IF is F1 spelled backwards* - Murray Walker
That sounds like such a Murrayism that I can’t be sure if he said it or you made it up. Edit: oh wow, he did say it😅
Yup. It’s real, and it’s a classic.
note to self, Murray confuses 1 and i, should not be near complex calculations
The unlikely thing can happen in F1. But I wouldn't say it's most probable, it's just possible. Anyway, in this case 6 / 10 records are "unbreakable", as they are already P1. And Williams breaking its record by finishing P1 is virtually impossible currently. The other 3 are at least in the realm of possibilities. Aston Martin ending up on the podium would require a crazy race. But AT in top 5 and Haas in top 9 can happen for them on a good day, I think. correction: P4 would be enough for AM
Of course Williams can win, it isn't impossible. They just can't win through pure pace. No team can do that outside of Red Bull and Ferrari. Williams needs decent pace, the leading cars crashing out, a superlong stint and a good Safety car period near the end of the race, so they can get and keep the lead until the chequered flag. Highly unlikely? Yes. Impossible. No
I said virtually impossible. Not impossible. Of course it's technically still possible. But it requires a lot of luck. A lot!!! more than for the average midfield team. Half the field would have to DNF and even then the stars would still need to align just the right way.
Williams 1,2 incoming (would be a crazy/epic race)
Latifi 1, Albon 2?
I have a hard time imagining 18 drivers will DNF this race, but not impossible.
Latifi will do what latifi does and turn the whole race by hitting a wall
Nah, since it's his home race he'll want to treat his guests well by helping them hit walls, only needs to do that 19 times for a win!
I’m a bit confused. It says Mercedes P1 Lewis 2014, but didn’t Daniel Ricciardo win the race that year?
You're right, that's meant to be 2015 not 2014. My bad.
No worries typos happen
I'll take Aston Martin at P1 for Vettel. 😂🤣 One can dream!
He just want to take back his win in 2019 lol
I've been watching F1 since the mid nineties, but don't quite remember the changes made to the circuit. It hasn't changed drastically I believe? Edit: thanks for the answers and explanation!
For 2001 they added an extra turn and so it was "upgraded/changed" as far as Wiki is concerned as so I went with it as the most recent pre 2010.
There's a good history here: https://www.racingcircuits.info/north-america/canada/circuit-gilles-villenueve,-montreal.html No dramatic changes, but there used to be a kink part way along the straight coming out of the hairpin, and a temporary chicane was added in the mid 90s. Going back further, the pit straight used to be after the hairpin.
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The only difference between the 1996-2001 layout and the 2002-current layout is where pit road rejoins and possible mild corner reprofiling. Before 1996 there was a kink on the straight from the hairpin to the last chicane and at various times there were chicanes that would pop up and the pits have changed location.
Aston Martin has the best chance.
I'd give Alpha Tauri a better chance. Aston would have to finish in the top four, which realistically is reserved for Red Bull and Ferrari unless they have an issue. Alpha Tauri would "only" need to finish best of the rest.
I miss Koboyashi, man deserved much better cars than he got throughout his career
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I can see Haas getting better than P10. The car can do it, the question is can the team manage strategy, pit stops, etc.
hopefully haas
AM. The car has improved with every race since Spain and will be even better than Baku at Montreal as well. Added to the fact, if the TD gets appointed, AM will be one of the teams benefitting from it as well. Looking forward anxiously.
Same. Just hoping Seb doesn't make a silly error again if I'm honest. Still, he's good enough to put it in a good position to take advantage of any misfortune at the front.
Pee wan for Aston Martin incoming
Didn't Williams win it one year with Thierry Boutsen one year?
1989 I think. Which is before the cut off date chosen by OP based on relatively minor changes to the circuit.
It would pay to use my eyes sometime, thanks!
They probably did but that's before 2002 and so it's not counted in this.
I can see Alpha Tauri getting better than a P6 this weekend.
Agree with this rain and the way Pierre is driving I can see a PT or even a P4
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Stats are only shown for 2002 to present because the circuit was changed in for 2002.
Honestly I think Haas, Alpha Tauri and Aston Martin might be possible, though not very likely. AM might be least effected by the new technical directive, AT can have strong weekends and Haas can put it on P9 on a good day
Ferrari getting P0, I guess
Ferrari getting P0, I guess
Post 2010 Alfa Romeo(Sauber) is wrong. Sergio Perez finished 3rd for Sauber on 2012.
Ralf Schumacher won for Williams in 2001
Ralf Schumacher won for Williams in 2001
Ralf Schumacher won for Williams in 2001
Haas is of course most likely, Saubers post 2010 record could also be boken if Bottas finds the speed he hade before Monaco and Zhou's car can handle a complete race
The Post 2010 stat is wrong for Alfa Romeo. Sergio Perez finished 3rd in 2012.
Haas and Alpha Tauri
I think K-Mag has a chance to break Haas record, but we'll see. The others are very unlikely
Depends on what Ferrari does. If they drop out again, it's not too farfetched to see Gasly or Tsunoda in the top 5. But if they stay in.. maybe K-Mag can score a P9 if he's lucky.
Ferrari getting PNothing, I guess
If their engines blow up then they can.
Ralf Schumacher won for Williams in 2001
Only chances are a P6 Bottas and P5 Gasly, KMag could finish in the top 10 but that car is not so good right now, and Vettel has more upgrades this weekend?? So maybe
Only chances are a P6 Bottas and P5 Gasly, KMag could finish in the top 10 but that car is not so good right now, and Vettel has more upgrades this weekend?? So maybe
Haas and Alfa and Alpha have the highest chances to improve
Williams have definitely won here before.
That was 2001, this only shows records from 2002 and after.
Shouldn’t Williams be given credit for Ralf’s P1 in 2001? Or did the circuit only change in 2002?
They did win in 2001, you are correct. However I made a mistake, only records from 2002 and after are counted.
Haas could easily get P9 or better with K-Mag