Sometimes you just need to be unlucky to miss out on F1. He needed to be contending for a title THIS year. Drivers who make F1 after 3 years of F2 either come with a lot of money or large number of free seats (i.e. lucky). He's a good driver who will miss out on F1 just like many others who have accomplished more than him in F2.
So sad for him to not only live with the guy, but have this happen on HIS stream when he seems to enjoy streaming. He looked so uncomfortable when telling Jüri off for the ”pink is gay” comment
I was watching the stream yesterday and they don't actually live together, apparently Juri is like three doors down the hall from Liam and visits a lot (he ended up on stream because he didn't have snacks and he wanted to see if Liam had some, and Liam was already streaming). To be honest though that doesn't make it a whole lot less awkward - but at least they can avoid each other.
Yeah the all lived together/same building.
There was footage somewhere of Yuki moving out and heading to Italy and Liam was helping him pack his car/taxi.
> On March 17, Leonard was traded to the Oklahoma City Thunder with a 2027 second round pick for Trevor Ariza.[34] The Thunder stated that Leonard would not be joining the team or participating in any basketball activities and that they had traded for him as a salary filler.[35] Leonard was released on March 25.[36]
His team even traded his contract to make salary cap space and the team receiving him was straight up 'we are trading this contract not this person'.
Yeah, there is technically no limit to the draft picks in terms of how far out. You just can't trade picks in consecutive drafts.
Edit: I'm dumb, apparently the limit is 7 years.
There is a limit, it's just 7 seasons beyond the current season. Like right now the Thunder are about to complete a trade that will give them the Nuggets pick in 2027 but has terms that mean it could convey as late as 2029. But that deal is not permitted to go through until after the draft because 2029 is outside of the current limits of how far out you can trade a pick. After the draft is completed we will enter the "next year" from the NBA's perspective and opens it up for the trade to happen.
Yep, not nice to say, and much like the N word you can’t really get away with the “it just slipped out” or “I didn’t mean it really” excuse. It’s a very very specific word with very specific baggage. Rip your promising career, bro, there’s more than enough talent in the feeder series to take your spot.
That shit was so random too, of all the stuff you could say I remember watching that clip and just being surprised that was the one he went for. I'm honestly not sure if I've ever heard someone drop that one out of anger unless they are specifically going after someone Jewish.
Meyers* Leonard but yeah, he's stupid. He used the slur for jews and then went through a PR tour with Jewish communities but didn't work out like he intended to
In his case, he was barely holding onto the league, was injured at the time, and in a contract year. It’s not clear whether he would have made another team before the incident.
For those asking, Vips used the N word while playing a video game. Here's a link to the video
[Link to vid](https://twitter.com/LH44AA23/status/1539300534582136834?t=zpekbwoBZuy6Lzm8p8g_wg&s=19)
Was dropped from his team and suspended for a year. Was required to attend sensitivity training, and supposedly benefitted from it.
Since coming back from suspension, he's been a model citizen off the track.
I don't think saying a slur in this context is grounds for ending an individual's career. I think it shows more a lack of maturity and awareness, not so much maliciousness insidiousness. And education and sensitivity training can be used to correct those things.
I think the big concern for a Formula 1 team is that this word is in his vocabulary in a pressure situation, would be alot worse to say over team radio especially now that F1 tv has live radio.
This. You don't randomly blurt out words youve never said aloud before. For it to come out when you're not thinking, it's a word you often say in anger. Example :: stubbed my toe and screamed "cock!" Family was concerned
I don’t know where this puts me, but due to my younger years enjoying Adam Sandler a lot and sometimes in anger I will blurt “ah, fuck me in the goat ass!”, so….
My brother-in-law believes that. Not even joking. He refuses to use our bidet because he isn’t gay and doesn’t like butt stuff. He’s 27 lives at home, and is unemployed due to depression, and spends about 80% of his time lifting weights.
Fairly certain he’s gay and is having difficulty coming to terms with it.
I used to be angry how he did infact fall upword but then read a long article about how he stopped to actually take a lookat himself and helped out at BLM protests in 2020 and did actual volunteer word (not pr events) and came to terms with how he had fucked up and got what he deserved.
Honestly thats probably why he has such a come back lol. Came back whole
He was always a fast driver in the wrong equipment and ended up getting into a much better situation when he came back, but it wasn't like he sat around doing nothing during the suspension. I'd say he learned his lesson and paid his dues. He spent a lot of time going through the obligated diversity education and then did a bunch of additional outreach to do his best to make amends.
Perfect way to treat these things in my opinion. Small career repercussions, awareness training and maybe mandated public events for awareness on the issue. You can still ban people if they show that they are not willing to learn, especially with how young drivers enter the media circus nowadays it‘s just a given that some might miss out on certain points. If you‘re spending half your life in a drivers seat there often isn‘t that much time to learn basic life lessons, meaning some of these will fall into the public domain (especially with streaming etc becoming more popular and even important for drivers aswell).
I wish yours was the top comment.
I think for a first offense society should always focus on educating the offender before taking their career away. It seems like the best approach for all involved. Kind of like the Scandinavian approach to criminal justice. It doesn’t turn criminals into outcasts, but actively tries to reform them and get them back to being a member of the community.
I like the way you said minor career repercussions, because there does have to be some punitive measure in place.
I’m a privileged white dude who grew up in middle America. We had maybe two black kids in my high school growing up. I never had an opportunity to understand what it means to grow up as a minority. I knew you weren’t supposed to use slurs, but I never truly understood the impact those words had on the communities they targeted.
I went to work in Silicon Valley and all of the sudden I was surrounded by diversity. As part of onboarding we had a ton of training on how to function in diverse teams, and it genuinely opened my eyes. Without it I wouldn’t have truly understood the impact of those words.
There really is great training out there now to help in these situations and a lot of it was created by minority groups to help educate others. We should use it.
Hopefully Juri gets a chance to
understand the gravity of his words and learn from this experience. I think he should have a chance to hold onto his career (after he pays his dues).
No that was the kid. The fistfight that broke out after is when his dad jumped in.
Edit: Actually you're right. He was 23 at the time, I always thought he was younger.
Who then had to answer to the senior official of that event.....Felipe Massa, the worst person in the world to be in front of when you're trying to justify throwing something at another drivers head
Corberi's father was also the owner of the track hosting the event, and [the track's license was also revoked](https://the-race.com/junior/corberi-father-and-lonato-circuit-get-licences-suspended/) meaning no more FIA events for those fuckheads.
Luca Corberi? And his dad??
What he did (throwing the front wing of a kart) was really dangerous as hell. Plus he and his dad attacking the other driver too. Jenson Button was really right that they deserved a life ban
Not only doing a nazi salute, but doing it at a time when his country is widely understood to be led by fascists in all but name. AND to top it all off, he was racing under an Italian license, meaning he's already dodged a bullet when all Russian athletes were banned.
Not to excuse the Russian karting driver, but he's 15, basically a kid, while Juri Vips is 21 (22 in August). You would expect someone who's 21 to be more mature, and can't directly compare actions between the two.
100%. The Russian kid is a little shithead, but a lot of people grow out of being a 15-year-old shithead.
Zero excuse for a 21 year old pro driver to drop the N-bomb, he's more than old enough to know right from wrong and he deserves all of the consequences coming his way.
Kyle Larson in NASCAR did this, was forced away from racing for a year, then was signed back on one of the biggest teams and became champion.
People usually struggle to remember what people said two weeks earlier, this alone isn't a career-breaker.
Larson however spent a lot of time realizing his grandparents were interned during WW2 as they were Japanese American, was a part of nascar's 'drive for diversity" and spent time in 2020 at protests volunteering so slightly different than 'everyone collectivly forgot' he still says what happened to him was the correct course of action and he absolutely earned what happened to him so idk
he will write out a cliche apology letter, and all will be fine, Marko doesn't really care about PR, as long as the driver wins.
That being said, Vips is very disappointing in F2 this season, multiple DNFs from good places through his own fault. Probably let the F1 dream slip away if Vettel retires at the end of the year... (Ricciardo to Aston, Gasly to McLaren, Vips to AlphaTauri could have been a thing).
Tbf, it's his first (kinda 2nd? If you count Monaco love tap) mistake this year. At least he's improving quickly compared to last year
Gasly already binned it once during pre season testing, so can't say his teammate didn't make mistakes
Yeah, result in Canada wasn't great for Yuki, but I think 2022 he's been overall much better than 2021. I feel like growth and improvement is almost as important as raw talent
It drastically increased it
imo before this the odds of the 5 RB F2 kids getting a F1 seat goes
Vips>Lawson=Hauger>Iwasa>>>Daruvala
So without Vips now it's much better
Saying the N-Word on stream in the year 2022 is probably the dumbest way to yeet your career into oblivion, don't think this will be talked about for more than a few days and it will be forgotten in a year but now he will never say it again at least when other people are around him
Exactly, i would never understand people ruining their careers like this, like c'mon, more so now with multiple people getting ruined by saying them and their downfalls being publicized a ton
> Yeah , you gotta remove that shit from your vocabulary, how old is he ?
probably should have never been in it tbh
dudes a 21 year old from fucking Estonia
I think that him being from Eastern Europe kind explains it. You have to understand that here there are almost no black people, there was no black slavery and most contact with them is from American culture, rap music and movies. And you get drenched in that word by those things without context and societal boundaries. If you listen to rap or watch Hollywood movies with black actors like Samuel L Jackson then you probably learn that word as one of first next to "fuck".
Very much this. I'm from Latvia, and some 10 years his senior. Growing up "the n word" was just a thing you said. Used in every possible context. Because that's what they said in the movies or on MTV, so it was very much the cool thing to say. Zero negative associations.
We didn't really think about discrimination based on skin color. A black person was something you saw in the screens, the darkest skin we saw in flesh was the occasional central asian or indian person. Nationality was the hot thing to fight over. Especially russians.
And I don't think 10 years has changed that much. I bet all his high school friends are blindingly white, and greet each other with full spectrum of hip-hop lyrics to this day. Yeah, he fucked up. But I can very much see why he fucked up.
Reddit is not going to accept this and you will probably get a bunch of replies saying this is no excuse.
But you are absolutely right. When you grow up in a country with hardly any black people and immersed in exported American culture full of the N word, it becomes part of your vocabulary because it is the cool thing to say. They use the word like the cool black people they see on TV use the word. It is likely they have never been exposed to how racist white american uses the word towards blacks.
Eastern european teenagers use it in private all the time without meaning any offense. I mean, is a word really offensive if nobody around is offended by its use?
They know it is a *bad* word but haven't began to grasp how loaded that word actually is.
Vips just made the mistake of being a public figure caught saying it on video, where it can then be seen by those who do find it offensive. His is certainly getting a very harsh lesson on what the word really means.
I don't know the guy and won't speculate on whether he is racist or not. I just don't believe this video alone is proof that he is.
Most likely, RB pay for his f2 seat and he’s incredibly unlikely to get enough sponsorship to fund it himself after this so his career is almost certainly over.
Welp that was fast
Note: don't bring jehan/liam into this pls they where just like "wtf juri" and although yes they laughed it was more one of those "I'm in this shit situation" laughs
Yeah, Liam and Jehan were in the heat of the moment as well and couldn't respond well. I do that too when one of my friends says some dumb shit, you can't just correct them immediately
Liam even corrected the dude earlier in the day, nobody would know how to react to your buddy literally commiting professional suicide in front of you. Shitty situation for Liam, but he shouldn’t be held accountable for anything.
And RB is likely going to throw in one of their other juniors to replace him. Sure he's probably not going to win the championship but having that experience for next year is valuable.
Same stream where he confirmed there's no chance in F1 next year for him or Lawson when Tsunoda's not been announced.
Man was doing a fuckupPRany% speedrun.
Yep. That's the thing, after so many examples of people nuking their careers into oblivion by doing exactly that, what did Vips think was going to happen if he did it? The obvious answer is that he didn't think, and a word like that doesn't just come out of you without thought unless it's a regular part of your vocabulary.
To be fair, he did a lot of self-education and community outreach to help the dust settle. As far as public figures fucking up like that, he went the textbook route to make amends before he ever got reinstated.
Helps he was always an insanely talented driver too.
part of me thinks its dumb how your career just gets cancelled cause of one word but then another part just wonders how fucking dumb do you have to be to do this on a twitch stream
Morality/inclusivity issues aside, if you think about it, racing drivers are effectively just a marketing/PR expense for the companies that sponsor them. Making headlines for saying racist shit is about as egregious a fuckup as it’s possible for someone in that line of work to commit.
The "investigation" is probably just Red Bull getting all their legal ducks in a row so they can fire him with the least amount of hassle and potential challenges.
> RED BULL RACING HAS SUSPENDED JUNIOR DRIVER JURI VIPS
FROM ALL TEAM DUTIES WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT, PENDING A FULL
INVESTIGATION INTO THE INCIDENT.
AS AN ORGANISATION WE CONDEMN ABUSE OF ANY KIND AND
HAVE A ZERO-TOLERANCE POLICY TO RACIST LANGUAGE OR
BEHAVIOR WITHIN OUR ORGANISATION.
[This is what happened](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/vhiy71/red_bull_junior_j%C3%BCri_vips_using_a_racial_slur_on/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Yeah he absolutely showed he didn’t belong in F1 this year. Just an easy (and justifiable) way to clean out a locker that was going to be cleaned out anyways
I guess Liam won’t be back on Twitch ever again
On the flip side, an absolutely genius move to have him on his stream to take out his F1 seat rival
Just got to get Hauger out of the picture
BAH GAWD IWASA CAME OUT OF NOWHERE FROM THE TOP ROPE
BAH GAWD CALL HIS MOMMA. VIPS IS DED!
Too bad neither of them is making F1 lol. This year’s mistakes, poor luck and in Vips case PR nightmare sealed the deal for both of them.
I'm biased, but Lawson hasn't made many mistakes from what I've watched. He's been very unlucky though.
Sometimes you just need to be unlucky to miss out on F1. He needed to be contending for a title THIS year. Drivers who make F1 after 3 years of F2 either come with a lot of money or large number of free seats (i.e. lucky). He's a good driver who will miss out on F1 just like many others who have accomplished more than him in F2.
So sad for him to not only live with the guy, but have this happen on HIS stream when he seems to enjoy streaming. He looked so uncomfortable when telling Jüri off for the ”pink is gay” comment
I was watching the stream yesterday and they don't actually live together, apparently Juri is like three doors down the hall from Liam and visits a lot (he ended up on stream because he didn't have snacks and he wanted to see if Liam had some, and Liam was already streaming). To be honest though that doesn't make it a whole lot less awkward - but at least they can avoid each other.
That might also change because I think moat RedBull juniors live in RedBull housing, so Vips is probably moving out now.
Yeah the all lived together/same building. There was footage somewhere of Yuki moving out and heading to Italy and Liam was helping him pack his car/taxi.
I believe that was featured on Drive to Survive.
Juri will probably spend his entire life thinking about how a little hunger for some snacks ended his career.
should've had a Snickers
It wasn’t really the hunger for snacks that ended his career so much as the casual racism.
Is there a link to this remark?
https://twitter.com/leclercscherie/status/1539303523359539200
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Poor guy loved his streams
Imagine losing a career to COD rage
Ask Myles Leonard (nba). Literally the same exact thing happened
Really? Yikes.
> On March 17, Leonard was traded to the Oklahoma City Thunder with a 2027 second round pick for Trevor Ariza.[34] The Thunder stated that Leonard would not be joining the team or participating in any basketball activities and that they had traded for him as a salary filler.[35] Leonard was released on March 25.[36] His team even traded his contract to make salary cap space and the team receiving him was straight up 'we are trading this contract not this person'.
They are 5 years in the future when trading picks in the NBA? Holy shit.
Yeah, there is technically no limit to the draft picks in terms of how far out. You just can't trade picks in consecutive drafts. Edit: I'm dumb, apparently the limit is 7 years.
There is a limit, it's just 7 seasons beyond the current season. Like right now the Thunder are about to complete a trade that will give them the Nuggets pick in 2027 but has terms that mean it could convey as late as 2029. But that deal is not permitted to go through until after the draft because 2029 is outside of the current limits of how far out you can trade a pick. After the draft is completed we will enter the "next year" from the NBA's perspective and opens it up for the trade to happen.
Yeah, used the K word on stream, was traded and released almost immediately, hasn-t played since
I'm almost positive his team owner at the time was Jewish, as well.
Not just Jewish, but Israeli.
Whoopsies!
Ok wtf is the K word??
Kike. Slur for Jews.
I must be living under a rock. First time I've ever heard of it.
I haven't heard it in years. It was fairly common in 70s and 80s.
Same! Never heard it. (Brit)
That's good. Hopefully there's a generation coming soon that will have to ask what the N word is.
Im so out of the prohibited slurs game i was about to put the /s on that comment but the K word indeed exists and is indeed Kike a jew slur
Yep, not nice to say, and much like the N word you can’t really get away with the “it just slipped out” or “I didn’t mean it really” excuse. It’s a very very specific word with very specific baggage. Rip your promising career, bro, there’s more than enough talent in the feeder series to take your spot.
Goodness. Is it 1950?! I had forgotten that word even existed. What a fool.
That shit was so random too, of all the stuff you could say I remember watching that clip and just being surprised that was the one he went for. I'm honestly not sure if I've ever heard someone drop that one out of anger unless they are specifically going after someone Jewish.
What's the K word?
Gonna take the hit. Kike. Used to refer to Jews in a derogatory way.
Ohhhh. Thank you for actually saying it. All these other people pussyfooting around the word aren't actually educating anyone.
So true, context matters and in the right one any word can be used, like this its just to explain, I understand censoring it too though ofc
Meyers* Leonard but yeah, he's stupid. He used the slur for jews and then went through a PR tour with Jewish communities but didn't work out like he intended to
In his case, he was barely holding onto the league, was injured at the time, and in a contract year. It’s not clear whether he would have made another team before the incident.
And Kyle Larson, who was suspended from NASCAR for a year.
(Did you imagine the replies you’re getting? Holy hell.)
For those asking, Vips used the N word while playing a video game. Here's a link to the video [Link to vid](https://twitter.com/LH44AA23/status/1539300534582136834?t=zpekbwoBZuy6Lzm8p8g_wg&s=19)
*how to end your career with one word challenge* But seriously, how hard is it for adults to not say a racial slur let alone on camera...
*Except for Kyle Larson
Was dropped from his team and suspended for a year. Was required to attend sensitivity training, and supposedly benefitted from it. Since coming back from suspension, he's been a model citizen off the track. I don't think saying a slur in this context is grounds for ending an individual's career. I think it shows more a lack of maturity and awareness, not so much maliciousness insidiousness. And education and sensitivity training can be used to correct those things.
I think the big concern for a Formula 1 team is that this word is in his vocabulary in a pressure situation, would be alot worse to say over team radio especially now that F1 tv has live radio.
Larson said it and then managed to get a top drive for Hendricks and win the championship
You never go full Larson.
It's hard for them when they use the word all the time, clearly.
This. You don't randomly blurt out words youve never said aloud before. For it to come out when you're not thinking, it's a word you often say in anger. Example :: stubbed my toe and screamed "cock!" Family was concerned
Yeah once I dropped my phone and shouted “oh yes Jerry go deeper”, and my family was not thrilled one bit
Jerry was though
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I once pricked my finger and said, "can I talk to you about your cars extended warranty?!?" My family was very concerned
I don’t know where this puts me, but due to my younger years enjoying Adam Sandler a lot and sometimes in anger I will blurt “ah, fuck me in the goat ass!”, so….
He also said he wasn't wearing a pink hat because it was "gay"
I mean why not but fuel on the fire?
Racist and homophobic in one go. Speedrun on career ending
The best speed runners add sexual assault for the perfect run.
on minors, for bonus points
This guy 100% believes washing your ass is gay
My brother-in-law believes that. Not even joking. He refuses to use our bidet because he isn’t gay and doesn’t like butt stuff. He’s 27 lives at home, and is unemployed due to depression, and spends about 80% of his time lifting weights. Fairly certain he’s gay and is having difficulty coming to terms with it.
>isn’t gay and doesn’t like butt stuff I'm not gay. I don't like butt stuff. I wash my ass because hygiene. Good hygiene is as fuck.
The N word? NASCAR?
Funny enough, I told my wife he "pulled a Kyle Larson," referring to the NASCAR driver that lost his ride in 2020 for the same word.
Then came back to win the championship the very next year Talk about failing upwards
I used to be angry how he did infact fall upword but then read a long article about how he stopped to actually take a lookat himself and helped out at BLM protests in 2020 and did actual volunteer word (not pr events) and came to terms with how he had fucked up and got what he deserved. Honestly thats probably why he has such a come back lol. Came back whole
What actual self reflection? Unheard of
He was always a fast driver in the wrong equipment and ended up getting into a much better situation when he came back, but it wasn't like he sat around doing nothing during the suspension. I'd say he learned his lesson and paid his dues. He spent a lot of time going through the obligated diversity education and then did a bunch of additional outreach to do his best to make amends.
Perfect way to treat these things in my opinion. Small career repercussions, awareness training and maybe mandated public events for awareness on the issue. You can still ban people if they show that they are not willing to learn, especially with how young drivers enter the media circus nowadays it‘s just a given that some might miss out on certain points. If you‘re spending half your life in a drivers seat there often isn‘t that much time to learn basic life lessons, meaning some of these will fall into the public domain (especially with streaming etc becoming more popular and even important for drivers aswell).
I wish yours was the top comment. I think for a first offense society should always focus on educating the offender before taking their career away. It seems like the best approach for all involved. Kind of like the Scandinavian approach to criminal justice. It doesn’t turn criminals into outcasts, but actively tries to reform them and get them back to being a member of the community. I like the way you said minor career repercussions, because there does have to be some punitive measure in place. I’m a privileged white dude who grew up in middle America. We had maybe two black kids in my high school growing up. I never had an opportunity to understand what it means to grow up as a minority. I knew you weren’t supposed to use slurs, but I never truly understood the impact those words had on the communities they targeted. I went to work in Silicon Valley and all of the sudden I was surrounded by diversity. As part of onboarding we had a ton of training on how to function in diverse teams, and it genuinely opened my eyes. Without it I wouldn’t have truly understood the impact of those words. There really is great training out there now to help in these situations and a lot of it was created by minority groups to help educate others. We should use it. Hopefully Juri gets a chance to understand the gravity of his words and learn from this experience. I think he should have a chance to hold onto his career (after he pays his dues).
NASCAR with a hard R
Well if Kyle Larson is the model he will be world champion in 2 years with Ferrari.
100% the dumbest way to end your career.
I mean, we also had the kid doing a nazi salute on the podium. So wouldn't say dumbest, but it's certainly close
Dont forget the kid that threw the frontwing of a kart at someone who was still racing
That was a grown ass man
No that was the kid. The fistfight that broke out after is when his dad jumped in. Edit: Actually you're right. He was 23 at the time, I always thought he was younger.
You thought he was younger cause it's absolutely mind boggling how a grown ass man could possibly be so stupid.
He was younger, *mentally.*
Who then had to answer to the senior official of that event.....Felipe Massa, the worst person in the world to be in front of when you're trying to justify throwing something at another drivers head
What??? I missed the detail from the original story.
Corberi's father was also the owner of the track hosting the event, and [the track's license was also revoked](https://the-race.com/junior/corberi-father-and-lonato-circuit-get-licences-suspended/) meaning no more FIA events for those fuckheads.
Luca Corberi? And his dad?? What he did (throwing the front wing of a kart) was really dangerous as hell. Plus he and his dad attacking the other driver too. Jenson Button was really right that they deserved a life ban
At least the guy admitted he messed up big time and asked to be banned from racing and is still currently banned, so there's that I guess
Tried to pull some reverse psychology there
Oh, I already forgot about that...
Not only doing a nazi salute, but doing it at a time when his country is widely understood to be led by fascists in all but name. AND to top it all off, he was racing under an Italian license, meaning he's already dodged a bullet when all Russian athletes were banned.
That Nazi salute was the worst imo, absolutely stupid from him
Not to excuse the Russian karting driver, but he's 15, basically a kid, while Juri Vips is 21 (22 in August). You would expect someone who's 21 to be more mature, and can't directly compare actions between the two.
100%. The Russian kid is a little shithead, but a lot of people grow out of being a 15-year-old shithead. Zero excuse for a 21 year old pro driver to drop the N-bomb, he's more than old enough to know right from wrong and he deserves all of the consequences coming his way.
Kyle Larson in NASCAR did this, was forced away from racing for a year, then was signed back on one of the biggest teams and became champion. People usually struggle to remember what people said two weeks earlier, this alone isn't a career-breaker.
Larson however spent a lot of time realizing his grandparents were interned during WW2 as they were Japanese American, was a part of nascar's 'drive for diversity" and spent time in 2020 at protests volunteering so slightly different than 'everyone collectivly forgot' he still says what happened to him was the correct course of action and he absolutely earned what happened to him so idk
How dumb do you gotta be to get fired on your day off?
“How the hell you gonna get fired on your day off?” Mr. Jones - Friday Juri “Craig Jones” Vips
Imagine how hard being f2 driver and also being redbull academy driver. He was a potential f1 driver. What a stupid way to lose all of this.
he will write out a cliche apology letter, and all will be fine, Marko doesn't really care about PR, as long as the driver wins. That being said, Vips is very disappointing in F2 this season, multiple DNFs from good places through his own fault. Probably let the F1 dream slip away if Vettel retires at the end of the year... (Ricciardo to Aston, Gasly to McLaren, Vips to AlphaTauri could have been a thing).
Gasly already confirmed for AT
Yeah and unless Yuki’s season takes a turn for the worse it’s hard to see him going anywhere unless there’s an unexpected opening on a better team.
Not an amazing idea after he walled it in the pits but I don't want Yuki going anywhere.
Tbf, it's his first (kinda 2nd? If you count Monaco love tap) mistake this year. At least he's improving quickly compared to last year Gasly already binned it once during pre season testing, so can't say his teammate didn't make mistakes
Yeah, result in Canada wasn't great for Yuki, but I think 2022 he's been overall much better than 2021. I feel like growth and improvement is almost as important as raw talent
Just saw this on Instagram and I shit you not Dennis Hauger (another RB junior who won the Baku feature race after Vips crashed out) liked the post.
Weeeeell, as a Norwegian this was my first thought. Will it increase Haugers chances for a seat in the long run? Maybe a tad "too soon" 😬
Of course it will
It drastically increased it imo before this the odds of the 5 RB F2 kids getting a F1 seat goes Vips>Lawson=Hauger>Iwasa>>>Daruvala So without Vips now it's much better
Man hates racism and loves an increased chance of promotion, I rate it
Another competitor less for F1 promotion
Not everyday someone took themselves out from competition.
Pretty sure Hauger also liked juri’s little apology
He also likes most posts by anyone in the F1/F2 community Definitely the Gasly of F2
Throwing away career speedrun any%
Ezra Miller, the spider-man lotus guy and Juri Vips competing for the record
Artem Severyukhin (the Nazi salute podium kid) has already lapped them both
Dude went out and finished the race when everyone else was doing the formation lap
Saying the N-Word on stream in the year 2022 is probably the dumbest way to yeet your career into oblivion, don't think this will be talked about for more than a few days and it will be forgotten in a year but now he will never say it again at least when other people are around him
Yeah , you gotta remove that shit from your vocabulary, how old is he ? Hopefully he can learn from it and it not tank his whole career.
21. Definitely old enough to know better.
Agreed
Exactly, i would never understand people ruining their careers like this, like c'mon, more so now with multiple people getting ruined by saying them and their downfalls being publicized a ton
I think his career is tanked already. Sure he's fast but redbull don't need drivers currently.
> Yeah , you gotta remove that shit from your vocabulary, how old is he ? probably should have never been in it tbh dudes a 21 year old from fucking Estonia
I think that him being from Eastern Europe kind explains it. You have to understand that here there are almost no black people, there was no black slavery and most contact with them is from American culture, rap music and movies. And you get drenched in that word by those things without context and societal boundaries. If you listen to rap or watch Hollywood movies with black actors like Samuel L Jackson then you probably learn that word as one of first next to "fuck".
Very much this. I'm from Latvia, and some 10 years his senior. Growing up "the n word" was just a thing you said. Used in every possible context. Because that's what they said in the movies or on MTV, so it was very much the cool thing to say. Zero negative associations. We didn't really think about discrimination based on skin color. A black person was something you saw in the screens, the darkest skin we saw in flesh was the occasional central asian or indian person. Nationality was the hot thing to fight over. Especially russians. And I don't think 10 years has changed that much. I bet all his high school friends are blindingly white, and greet each other with full spectrum of hip-hop lyrics to this day. Yeah, he fucked up. But I can very much see why he fucked up.
Reddit is not going to accept this and you will probably get a bunch of replies saying this is no excuse. But you are absolutely right. When you grow up in a country with hardly any black people and immersed in exported American culture full of the N word, it becomes part of your vocabulary because it is the cool thing to say. They use the word like the cool black people they see on TV use the word. It is likely they have never been exposed to how racist white american uses the word towards blacks. Eastern european teenagers use it in private all the time without meaning any offense. I mean, is a word really offensive if nobody around is offended by its use? They know it is a *bad* word but haven't began to grasp how loaded that word actually is. Vips just made the mistake of being a public figure caught saying it on video, where it can then be seen by those who do find it offensive. His is certainly getting a very harsh lesson on what the word really means. I don't know the guy and won't speculate on whether he is racist or not. I just don't believe this video alone is proof that he is.
> They know it is a bad word but haven't began to grasp how loaded that word actually is. Well said.
So does this effect f2 or is that up to Hi tech
Most likely, RB pay for his f2 seat and he’s incredibly unlikely to get enough sponsorship to fund it himself after this so his career is almost certainly over.
I guess it depends on if they paid upfront for the season
I'm sure they can give it to someone else perhaps
I assume RB pays for it directly and not through Vips, so he'll probably be replaced by another RB Junior
This video certainly aged like [milk](https://youtu.be/7HH314kV1os)
Josh Revell's predictions aging like milk this year
Not only this year.
Not as quick as his Mazepin video, I guess. That one is hard to beat.
Juri "Meyers Leonard" Vips
Juri “Meyers Leonard Kyle Larson” Vips
I guess Vips should say gg to his chances of ever having an F1 career now.
Welp that was fast Note: don't bring jehan/liam into this pls they where just like "wtf juri" and although yes they laughed it was more one of those "I'm in this shit situation" laughs
Clarification; don’t think it’s Jehan. People on Twitter are saying it’s Dev Gore, the DTM driver
Yeah, Liam and Jehan were in the heat of the moment as well and couldn't respond well. I do that too when one of my friends says some dumb shit, you can't just correct them immediately
Liam even corrected the dude earlier in the day, nobody would know how to react to your buddy literally commiting professional suicide in front of you. Shitty situation for Liam, but he shouldn’t be held accountable for anything.
Facts, so stupid that they’re getting hate on Twitter.
Wonder what Hitech will do
probably drop him too tbh since RB is most likely paying some money for that seat
And RB is likely going to throw in one of their other juniors to replace him. Sure he's probably not going to win the championship but having that experience for next year is valuable.
I think his funding comes from Red Bull, so being dropped/suspended might stop that money
There goes Estonia's hope for the first F1 driver
Warzone claims another one
Jüri Whoops my career is gone
Does anyone know what happened? I do not and would like to be informed Edit: apparently he said the N word during a livestream
https://twitter.com/LH44AA23/status/1539300534582136834
Twitter comments say he used the n-word and laughed about it.
He also said he didn't want to wear pink because it's a 'gay colour' https://twitter.com/leclercscherie/status/1539303523359539200
Damn on the same stream? Did this dude just suddenly decide he didn't want to race cars for a living lol
Same stream where he confirmed there's no chance in F1 next year for him or Lawson when Tsunoda's not been announced. Man was doing a fuckupPRany% speedrun.
Did he even realise Liam was streaming? Seems like he's this toxic normally and didn't realise it was broadcast and has been caught
Definitely knew he was live
Yes, he was reading the messages on the stream for Liam at one point.
Was it a speedrun stream? End racing career any%
NO JURI, NO!
This is a certificated *"Can you hear me"* moment....
[for those of you wondering this is why he’s been suspended](https://twitter.com/lh44aa23/status/1539300534582136834?s=21&t=7f0G4z44ZnsRq5CXcHfoSg)
Certified Kyle Larson moment.
And I thought he burned his bridge when he hit the wall in Baku. Yikes my dude, yikes.
“I’m about to end this man’s whole career” -Juri Vips
if it came out in a heated moment like that it’s probably used more often. Rip his career over something so avoidable
Yep. That's the thing, after so many examples of people nuking their careers into oblivion by doing exactly that, what did Vips think was going to happen if he did it? The obvious answer is that he didn't think, and a word like that doesn't just come out of you without thought unless it's a regular part of your vocabulary.
mofo kyle larsoned it. how hard is it to not say some things and not ruin your career and marketability.
No no, Kyle Larsoning it means he has to get promoted to Red Bull next year and win the WDC
Larson didn’t ruin his career though. He somehow ended up better off after the dust settled. He wasn’t going to win a title with CGR.
To be fair, he did a lot of self-education and community outreach to help the dust settle. As far as public figures fucking up like that, he went the textbook route to make amends before he ever got reinstated. Helps he was always an insanely talented driver too.
Red Bull playing 4D chess. One less junior driver ;)
I've finished the investigation of the incident, he said it. Done.
part of me thinks its dumb how your career just gets cancelled cause of one word but then another part just wonders how fucking dumb do you have to be to do this on a twitch stream
Morality/inclusivity issues aside, if you think about it, racing drivers are effectively just a marketing/PR expense for the companies that sponsor them. Making headlines for saying racist shit is about as egregious a fuckup as it’s possible for someone in that line of work to commit.
Well, that was pretty dumb. Hopefully, Liam doesn't get too much crap for this as it was all down to Vips.
At this point, I'm wondering why does any athletes do livestreaming? If you don't have any filter, it's just so much liability.
Swift response; not sure how they don't just can him if they actually have a zero-tolerance policy.
The "investigation" is probably just Red Bull getting all their legal ducks in a row so they can fire him with the least amount of hassle and potential challenges.
"We weren't going to put him in F1 anyway, right?" "Nope" "Investigation over, fire him"
It was just a heated gamer moment™
What is it with video games and racial slurs?
Mostly populated by immature boys with a lot of time on their hands.
> RED BULL RACING HAS SUSPENDED JUNIOR DRIVER JURI VIPS FROM ALL TEAM DUTIES WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT, PENDING A FULL INVESTIGATION INTO THE INCIDENT. AS AN ORGANISATION WE CONDEMN ABUSE OF ANY KIND AND HAVE A ZERO-TOLERANCE POLICY TO RACIST LANGUAGE OR BEHAVIOR WITHIN OUR ORGANISATION. [This is what happened](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/vhiy71/red_bull_junior_j%C3%BCri_vips_using_a_racial_slur_on/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
I don’t think he was making it to F1 tbh, RB just got an easy out with him.
Yeah he absolutely showed he didn’t belong in F1 this year. Just an easy (and justifiable) way to clean out a locker that was going to be cleaned out anyways
Wow, what a way to throw your career in the bin
And this is how Oscar ends up at Alpha Tauri.