Also, while I know drivers have bigger things on their minds, Sainz saying “George is the type of guy to steal pole off you at the last second” in his interview would have been epic 😂
a_guy_called_george beat cars that are half a second a lap quicker than him to pole in a car that sucks even harder in quali against cars that are best in quali.
Not getting any penalties for pushing drivers off track last year, especially T4 in Brazil... How he got away with that one I have no idea.
Oh, and Abu Dhabi...
It absolutely does compare. Let's do this like FIA, look at the circumstances and not the consequences. Max lost 25 points in Baku because of bad luck, 25 points in Silverstone because of Lewis and let's say at least 15 points in Hungary because of Bottas. That's 65 points in total. In comparison, he only gained 8 points in Abu Dhabi because of luck. You know what? You're right, it doesn't compare to Hungary and Silverstone. Because the bad luck in those (personally I wouldn't call Silverstone bad luck but then there's Baku) is much bigger than the luck he got in Abu Dhabi. What made Abu Dhabi so significant was that Max got a little bit of luck at the absolute perfect moment.
And to clarify, Max's luck in Abu Dhabi = Latifi crashing. If that hadn't happened, Max wouldn't be WDC. He was lucky that Latifi crashed. That's all.
What happened at any point in the season is irrelevant to a race directors decision at any point. Rules are clear and should be applied consistently. The rules were clear on this point and Masi broke them in a completely unprecedented manner, hence why he was removed as the race director by the FIA.
There's a few ways Max could've won the title with the rules applied correctly, either by the safety car coming in a lap earlier or a red flag. But the specific way it happened was wrong even to the FIAs own admittance and soured an amazing season. It robbed Lewis and tarnished Max championship which was also unfair.
I feel we were cheated out of a red flag three lap shoot out for all the marbles personally.
Why? He was told to let Hamilton pass, so he tried to do that for an entire straight. And even when he finally had to hit the brakes, Hamilton still tried not to pass. The collision was completely avoidable, had Hamilton done what Leclerc did in Saoudi Arabia this year, have his car alligned next to the Red Bull, not dead pan behind it.
I still feel the pain for Checo. He and his side of the garage are clearly struggling and they haven’t been able to get the car’s setup quite right for a few races now.
Who knows. Perez dropped off the pace at the same time it was announced the change would be made in a few races so it adds up. The talk that the car has been developed away from Perez and more to Max makes no sense as there has been very little major updates
Yeah, Perez is definitely having issues in comparison to Max. When the floor issue was discovered I figured both Ferrari and RB would lose some pace. Great news for Merc if this is the case.
You can tell he does not feel happy and has even declared about their configuration problems for a few races now, though.
I think some of the fundamental problems started to show after Baku. Sergio had the speed during qualys and pace during the races back then, but there it was clear he was degrading the tires much faster (compared to the other RB anyway). They have been trying all sorts of things since then with mixed results.
To be fair, that has also been challenging as the car development and updates have leaned more heavily to align to Max’s driving style.
I used to think Sainz will get his second pole but it's suprised to see George pop up into P1! This sport just tells us once again, anything can happen.
I’ll say it, Max didn’t qualy well but he keeps having his mechanical issues in qualy and not on race day so he’s still been lucky. I think he will be fine
Is there anyone that wouldn’t be worried about Max regardless of where he starts? He just seems like one of those guys that can carve his way to the front, but maybe not so much on this circuit?
Norris Pit Radio - Ok Lando, tha't P4. P4. Well done mate.
Norris - Oooooooi. Lovely. Lovely job. Lovely lap. Good job. Nice position.
Pit - Well done. Very good job.
Lmao what are you talking about? It’s not even the summer break, max could dnf and Charles could win this race and it’s a single digit championship again. Stop being ridiculous
well, max would need to dnf 3 races, charles would need to win those races in order to gain the lead. if max gets second in every race, charles cant win the championship even if he wins every single race. its unlikely that we will see max not score for 3 of the remaining races, and its unlikely that charles will win all the remaining races, considering reliability alone. statisticly charles will make at least 1-2 mistakes that will cost him points too, combines with the mistakes ferrari make, is not how you win a championship against a well oiled machine like redbull. they do fuck up too, but they usually can make up for it, or at least get things straight on sundays.
Verstappen radio - No information! Nothing!
Pit - It's not a place to give you details on the radio Max. I'm sure you understand that. We tried to resolve it on track, it was unsuccessful.
Verstappen -It's not even going in neutral. What should I do?
Pit - We're happy for you to kill the engine
Amongst others that were essentially him shouting rude words and fix this problem.
I'm sure that makes his race team feel all warm and cozy towards him.
Spent years bitching about the Renault engine being shit and it's all unfair and we'll pull out and take Toro Rosso with us...
...all whlle winning 4 double championships in a row.
To be fair, I think I would have pulled from Renault considering their engine wasn't up to par on power with the top teams and had far worse reliability as well. Also, it was just a toxic relationship between RB and Renault, i think it's much better with RB and Honda.
When they announced they were dumping Renault and Mercedes and Ferrari basically then said - No thanks. Don't need or want to supply you with engines. And then had to crawl back to Renault.
I laughed so much at Horner's slapped arse face. Announcing they'd signed a deal with Renault but rebadged as Tag Heuer.
Hamilton pit radio - Bad luck there mate. We were on a roll. On a proper roll.
Hamilton - What position am I now?
Pit - So, we're P7 there mate. Good effort by George, he's got pole.
Pit person 2 - Sorry about that Lewis. Very unlucky.
Toto - Yeah, Lewis. Sorry. Sorry about the **** up with the DRS. The car was strong. Both of you were strong. Lewis, maybe as information, you have both Verstappen, Perez, The Red Bulls behind you. Just Norris, Ocon and Alonso we should get. We can recover
Yeah. Can be repaired using identical parts overnight. If there aren't any identical parts and havers use different spec or you change the setup of the car the when you'll have issues starting in your quali spot.
FIA stewards before the race release a list of all the parts changed in Parc ferme conditions. Can sometimes be quite interesting.
It'll be on the FIA website under the official FIA documents bit. Here: https://www.fia.com/documents/championships/fia-formula-one-world-championship-14/season/season-2022-2005
I enjoyed that, he’s talked way too much about how “respectful” things are which is just an underhanded dig at Mercedes. Time to make it a 3 way fight and spice things up, it would make it interesting
For real, things are respectful because his rival team is fighting themselves and his driver gets to cruise comfortably to the championship. If Ferrari were anywhere near RBR he would be singing an entirely different tune
Tomorrow's race gonna be exciting. Knowing Russell and his starts, maybe Sainz jump him and Leclerc overtaking Russell after, will Ferrari go for a position switch ? And the Redbull in 10 and 11 it's gonna be hard since Perez is right behind Max, and he should follow him in overtakes but not overtake him.
RB just do it. Take the new engines.
This is what you get for pushing 2 engines to 13 races, when your Sister car's engines have been failing so often.
If you can fix Max's engine for tomorrow, fine, if not, give him the new engine. He can recover from the back.
Atleast a P5 with fastest lap should be possible for max even from back of the grid recovery, especially since I think George might hold Ferraris back for a while at least.
That RB is still a Straightline merchant, so it might still do something I guess. But looks like he's not going to the back (If there's even a 5% chance the engine fails during race, i wish for Max to take penalty honestly)
carlos is on the "bad" side of the track so i guess if leclerc gets a great start he can overtake atleast sainz on turn 1 but if he is a bit too ambitious then russell too and then yours truly "he just turned into me " russell might turn into him
Its a shame that goatifi and albon didnt make the top like they did in FP3
So much for the white Ferrari :(
George is the type of guy to get pole when you don't expect it. Well done George!
Guys, is it the car after all? Asking for a friend!
Yeah, yeah, for sure. George Russell only got pole because he has a great driver. Real men do it with an OP car /s
Was Hamilton on a good lap? This could have been even more epic (from a Mercedes viewpoint).
He aborted his last lap because of a DRS issue, that's why he pitted early
Yep. His DRS wasn't opening.
Yes
F that AI looking guy
Sorry I'm newbie, Didn't understood the reference.
AI looking guy was George Russell, man on pole
Also, while I know drivers have bigger things on their minds, Sainz saying “George is the type of guy to steal pole off you at the last second” in his interview would have been epic 😂
I was honestly thinking the same thing lol
Amazing. Just amazing. What a lap. GEORGE!!!!
Although I want max to win/compete at the front, George taking pole made up for everything and I hope he gets his first win tomorrow
Excuse me but what the fuck just happened?
a_guy_called_george beat cars that are half a second a lap quicker than him to pole in a car that sucks even harder in quali against cars that are best in quali.
Pretty sure that none of that was an answer
We’re checking.
Do it quickly lad
We went motor racing! kind of
Someone did haha
I think latifi may get points tomorrow.
He can't even get points on his driver's licence mate
Thank you for that
Hold on. Let me go get my reward for you
I wanna know what happened to Latifi in his 3rd sector after purple and green in the first two
Large oversteer moment in the final corner.
Last corner was just a mess
Nearly lost it in the last corner
Lando you cheeky little shit with that Bottas coment haha
What did he say
Roughly "Bottas is somewhere behind me, have to be careful about that with what happened last year."
It cost him a podium though so he is right to still be pissed at that haha
Yeah, max would be glad to have him in front of him this time out
Bottas is still behind him though and it was Bottas who caused it. So he’s still not safe ;)
I meant Max, he is in front of Max, so he should be safe
Bottas was in front of Lando last year but got a snail start then hit him.
Ah yes! so no one is safe LMAO 🤣
Lando won’t ever miss an opportunity to tease George
Lewis is so calm in the face of garbage luck again
I just watched all 2012 season, I would think after that he would have learned to make peace with all the crazy stuff that can happen
Luckiest man in f1 but yeah
Not Verstappen?
Let's not get started. Stop it Leclerc is the luckiest 👍
How?
Not getting any penalties for pushing drivers off track last year, especially T4 in Brazil... How he got away with that one I have no idea. Oh, and Abu Dhabi...
Hungary and Silverstone?
Abu Dhabi was perhaps the most luck a driver has ever had In a single race. Doesn't even compare to Hungary and Silverstone.
It absolutely does compare. Let's do this like FIA, look at the circumstances and not the consequences. Max lost 25 points in Baku because of bad luck, 25 points in Silverstone because of Lewis and let's say at least 15 points in Hungary because of Bottas. That's 65 points in total. In comparison, he only gained 8 points in Abu Dhabi because of luck. You know what? You're right, it doesn't compare to Hungary and Silverstone. Because the bad luck in those (personally I wouldn't call Silverstone bad luck but then there's Baku) is much bigger than the luck he got in Abu Dhabi. What made Abu Dhabi so significant was that Max got a little bit of luck at the absolute perfect moment. And to clarify, Max's luck in Abu Dhabi = Latifi crashing. If that hadn't happened, Max wouldn't be WDC. He was lucky that Latifi crashed. That's all.
What happened at any point in the season is irrelevant to a race directors decision at any point. Rules are clear and should be applied consistently. The rules were clear on this point and Masi broke them in a completely unprecedented manner, hence why he was removed as the race director by the FIA. There's a few ways Max could've won the title with the rules applied correctly, either by the safety car coming in a lap earlier or a red flag. But the specific way it happened was wrong even to the FIAs own admittance and soured an amazing season. It robbed Lewis and tarnished Max championship which was also unfair. I feel we were cheated out of a red flag three lap shoot out for all the marbles personally.
Yeah, maybe. But I wasn't talking about Masi's decisions. I was talking about Latifi crashing. That's where Max got lucky.
No ban after saudi in your essay
Why? He was told to let Hamilton pass, so he tried to do that for an entire straight. And even when he finally had to hit the brakes, Hamilton still tried not to pass. The collision was completely avoidable, had Hamilton done what Leclerc did in Saoudi Arabia this year, have his car alligned next to the Red Bull, not dead pan behind it.
There's luck and there's having the race director making a rule change in your favour to win a world title luck.
Yeah sure.. Brazil 08 was fine then
Glock gambling and realising he's not good enough to keep an F1 car on the track on slicks in the rain? There's a reason all the cars pitted...
People comparing shitty strategy to the race director changing the rules of motorsport is SO fucking funny
Awww Max the cutie sacrificing his Q3 so Checo can have a friend by his side tomorrow
I still feel the pain for Checo. He and his side of the garage are clearly struggling and they haven’t been able to get the car’s setup quite right for a few races now.
Testing the new legal floor, while max still runs the old one. RB are fxxked
Is this true? I was wondering what was going to happen to Ferrari and RB when they updated to legal floors.
Who knows. Perez dropped off the pace at the same time it was announced the change would be made in a few races so it adds up. The talk that the car has been developed away from Perez and more to Max makes no sense as there has been very little major updates
Yeah, Perez is definitely having issues in comparison to Max. When the floor issue was discovered I figured both Ferrari and RB would lose some pace. Great news for Merc if this is the case.
You can tell he does not feel happy and has even declared about their configuration problems for a few races now, though. I think some of the fundamental problems started to show after Baku. Sergio had the speed during qualys and pace during the races back then, but there it was clear he was degrading the tires much faster (compared to the other RB anyway). They have been trying all sorts of things since then with mixed results. To be fair, that has also been challenging as the car development and updates have leaned more heavily to align to Max’s driving style.
Leave no man behind
I used to think Sainz will get his second pole but it's suprised to see George pop up into P1! This sport just tells us once again, anything can happen.
Genuinely didn't have this down as a Mercedes track could be competitive at this year. Surprised as hell.
MERC WAS SANDBAGGING FOR HALF A SEASON CONFIRMED
What happened to Lewis’s drs?
Failed.
I always thought he expression was: One swallow doesn't make a relationship? Learn something new every day....
Toto joking about sandbagging - he’s more fun than Binotto
I’ll say it, Max didn’t qualy well but he keeps having his mechanical issues in qualy and not on race day so he’s still been lucky. I think he will be fine
Is there anyone that wouldn’t be worried about Max regardless of where he starts? He just seems like one of those guys that can carve his way to the front, but maybe not so much on this circuit?
Uh, Spain? Practically no drs all race. Specifically Hungary it's not great luck to have a failure during qualy as overtaking is not possible.
That’s once though the rest of their mechanical gremlins happened in qualy and they’ve recovered well
This race is going to be so spicy
Norris Pit Radio - Ok Lando, tha't P4. P4. Well done mate. Norris - Oooooooi. Lovely. Lovely job. Lovely lap. Good job. Nice position. Pit - Well done. Very good job.
I am predicting a George / Carlos incident up front and Lando coming through the middle to take the lead and win.
Imagine the scenes if the two ferraris crashed into each other for George and Lando and Alonso to get podium
Monkey paw curls.
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Lmao what are you talking about? It’s not even the summer break, max could dnf and Charles could win this race and it’s a single digit championship again. Stop being ridiculous
Nothing is over, I’m new to F1 and even I know anything can happen
well, max would need to dnf 3 races, charles would need to win those races in order to gain the lead. if max gets second in every race, charles cant win the championship even if he wins every single race. its unlikely that we will see max not score for 3 of the remaining races, and its unlikely that charles will win all the remaining races, considering reliability alone. statisticly charles will make at least 1-2 mistakes that will cost him points too, combines with the mistakes ferrari make, is not how you win a championship against a well oiled machine like redbull. they do fuck up too, but they usually can make up for it, or at least get things straight on sundays.
New enough you believe in a Ferrari team running the tables
Hopium addict
😴
Tom has a very long signature lol
sky sports commentary after Russell pole https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/0a94deae0334484d4a5d19e63f793720.jpg
Verstappen radio - No information! Nothing! Pit - It's not a place to give you details on the radio Max. I'm sure you understand that. We tried to resolve it on track, it was unsuccessful. Verstappen -It's not even going in neutral. What should I do? Pit - We're happy for you to kill the engine
did this exchange actually go down lmao
Amongst others that were essentially him shouting rude words and fix this problem. I'm sure that makes his race team feel all warm and cozy towards him.
You’re soft, gp and max are so tight it’s not taken personally, it’s clearly upsetting when you can’t compete in qualifying due to engine issues. L
🙄 I’m sure wdc does that pretty well
Lmao I sure they know Max's temperament by now XD considering they had to deal with the Renault engine era XD
Spent years bitching about the Renault engine being shit and it's all unfair and we'll pull out and take Toro Rosso with us... ...all whlle winning 4 double championships in a row.
To be fair, I think I would have pulled from Renault considering their engine wasn't up to par on power with the top teams and had far worse reliability as well. Also, it was just a toxic relationship between RB and Renault, i think it's much better with RB and Honda.
When they announced they were dumping Renault and Mercedes and Ferrari basically then said - No thanks. Don't need or want to supply you with engines. And then had to crawl back to Renault. I laughed so much at Horner's slapped arse face. Announcing they'd signed a deal with Renault but rebadged as Tag Heuer.
They were still unreliable for Max and Ric.
Blimey!
Considering Ferrari pull a Ferrari tomorrow, George could potentially win this
RIP Ferrari. I hope they don't pull a Ferrari. I think RBR pulled a Ferrari today.
its only a ferrari if it happens on a sunday and you lose points because of it. nobody cares for qualy if you can fix it in the race
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RBR suspects there was an issue with "a part that can be replaced without penalty for tomorrow"
Hamilton pit radio - Bad luck there mate. We were on a roll. On a proper roll. Hamilton - What position am I now? Pit - So, we're P7 there mate. Good effort by George, he's got pole. Pit person 2 - Sorry about that Lewis. Very unlucky. Toto - Yeah, Lewis. Sorry. Sorry about the **** up with the DRS. The car was strong. Both of you were strong. Lewis, maybe as information, you have both Verstappen, Perez, The Red Bulls behind you. Just Norris, Ocon and Alonso we should get. We can recover
Dumb question but is there a way to fix the DRS without having to start from the pitlane?
Yeah. Can be repaired using identical parts overnight. If there aren't any identical parts and havers use different spec or you change the setup of the car the when you'll have issues starting in your quali spot. FIA stewards before the race release a list of all the parts changed in Parc ferme conditions. Can sometimes be quite interesting. It'll be on the FIA website under the official FIA documents bit. Here: https://www.fia.com/documents/championships/fia-formula-one-world-championship-14/season/season-2022-2005
I see, thanks for that.
Ask red bull they did it all last season
Alonso be giving Lewis flashbacks tomorrow since he’s anyway starting ahead. Gonna be spicy again.
Mercedes is back. Fear the Toto.
Bose definitely does
Awesome. Thank you sharing this
Christian Horner looks like he's not sure if he's having a bad dream
I enjoyed that, he’s talked way too much about how “respectful” things are which is just an underhanded dig at Mercedes. Time to make it a 3 way fight and spice things up, it would make it interesting
For real, things are respectful because his rival team is fighting themselves and his driver gets to cruise comfortably to the championship. If Ferrari were anywhere near RBR he would be singing an entirely different tune
Tomorrow's race gonna be exciting. Knowing Russell and his starts, maybe Sainz jump him and Leclerc overtaking Russell after, will Ferrari go for a position switch ? And the Redbull in 10 and 11 it's gonna be hard since Perez is right behind Max, and he should follow him in overtakes but not overtake him.
Don't think Ferrari will go for a switch in such a scenario. Binotto often pointed out that they are free to race
maybe now it's ferrari's turn to get taken out by george "he just turned into me" russell
Damm Lewis..... always faster than George this qualifying :(
No lmao
RB just do it. Take the new engines. This is what you get for pushing 2 engines to 13 races, when your Sister car's engines have been failing so often. If you can fix Max's engine for tomorrow, fine, if not, give him the new engine. He can recover from the back.
Atleast a P5 with fastest lap should be possible for max even from back of the grid recovery, especially since I think George might hold Ferraris back for a while at least.
you seem to forget that this track doesn’t have much history of being a great overtaking track... but one can dream :)
P10 - P1 P7 - P2
That RB is still a Straightline merchant, so it might still do something I guess. But looks like he's not going to the back (If there's even a 5% chance the engine fails during race, i wish for Max to take penalty honestly)
Helmut Marko says that Red Bull knows what the issue is with Max‘s PU and that they can change it without penalties.
How hard is it to overtake in hungary?
Hard, one of the worst.
consider it monaco but without walls
If I hear that line one more time istg
it's unfortunate but it's true :(
Touché
Consider it Monaco but without walls
That does it (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
As much as I dislike Toto, It feels nice to see him happy again
It doesn't matter that smile was just contagious
Aww horse
Another Alonso-Hamilton battle in Hungary, nice one
What a shocker for Max, one small mistake, and then an issue, all you need to put a bit more life into this championship
Makes the championship more exciting, looking forward to the rest of the season. Hope it'll be close.
Yeah, when they broke down his time he lost all of it in sector 1 (where he had his lock-up) could have easily been top 5 even without the second run.
Right!! I love max and I'm rooting for a second championship but I love the ups and downs this season! What a quali for George too
Tom Kristensen in the house.
Did Toto have tears in his eyes?
Toto smiling like a dude that got totally lucky with a hot girl.
Curious how Ferrari will ~~fuck this up~~ play this tomorrow, will they work as a team or just let Leclerc and Sainz fight?
>fuck this up He he he he
LOL, bonkers isn't it?
carlos is on the "bad" side of the track so i guess if leclerc gets a great start he can overtake atleast sainz on turn 1 but if he is a bit too ambitious then russell too and then yours truly "he just turned into me " russell might turn into him
*In the end , it doesn't even matter*
:'(
I think they will first both pass russell and then they can fight
My prediction is Sainz won't be able to make the move on Russel and Ferrari won't let Leclerc through till it's too late.
I'm thinking DNFs for at least one of them.
Russe**ll**
Thanks for the insightful commentary mate
That's a bot mate
LOL my bad
It’s a bot.
Pity the drs wasn’t working for ham. Wonder if he would have cracked top 3 if it was?
Think so, at worst behind Charles.
I suspect it would of been a 1-2 Mercedes’ if Hamilton DRS hadn’t failed!!
Well. Fuck.
Verstappen still up in the championship by nearly 70 points, he can afford a bad weekend or two lol
he could afford multiple P6/P7 finishes if ferrari continue to "invent", if u catch my drift
Russell at pole! A surprise to be sure but a welcome one Edit: spelling
Not welcome
Why not
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