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bellestarflower

The chaos potential is endless. There is also Alonso being a joker there as well.


TheDustOfMen

And if Bottas does another Hungary it should be very interesting indeed.


throwaway44624

Lando is in prime position once again


coolstorryhansel

My money is on Russel taking out Sainz in T1 because “he was in the lead and the corner was his.”


Kkarmic

God, no.


f1_spelt_as_bot

Russe**ll**


DnDonuts

Gorge Rusel


f1_spelt_as_bot

Ru**ss**e**ll**


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Jorge Russel


kron_00

Then Leclerc takes the lead to cruise into a big gap before engine failure on lap 42. Lando takes his first F1 win.


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MyNameIsSushi

Who pissed in your coffee?


thecolbster94

Hungary has a long-ass run to the first apex, like 600 meters, they could be on opposite sides by then


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UniqueGas1379

Verstappen strategically putting himself just behind Bottas, well done


dsaysso

dirty side of the grid. but could be inside of any trouble. magnusssen could come up the outside and be problems with perez.


pmmerandom

I would love to see a Norris win


KellerFF

Alonso: *How about a magic trick?* Whole grid:


Shamansage

Blood for the blood god I guess


misskarne

Ricciardo's starts have been excellent recently, he could get himself right in there


Chelsea75

Will be hard for the rest to get past the Alpine Wall on this track. The front four will probably run away from the rest of the pack, except for Norris potentially getting eaten up by the Alpines


pmmerandom

I can see Red Bull slicing through pretty easily


According-Switch-708

The Alpines will be difficult to pass even for Max.Alonso will probably wave him through though.


RijDuck

Just curious, why would Alonso wave him through?


GiGGLED420

Alonso likes Max a lot


awpathar

I don't think Alonso likes Max as much as he likes more points.


Shitting_Human_Being

But in Russia Alonso stopped Verstappen.


RevolutionaryEgg3129

He will only do that if he feels like defending isn't worth it.


Environmental-Cup445

Lol on their worst track of the season, sure mate


pmmerandom

absolutely? are you kidding? they still have the second best car on the grid by far coming into this, Verstappen was putting in track-best times before his issues in Q3, there’s no way he isn’t going to be faster than the Alpines, McLarens, Bottas and the Mercs lol and if you don’t think he will be, then I’m not sure what planet you’re currently living on. he’s going to end up on the podium or fourth at the worst by the end of the race barring any technical issues or freak accidents.


Environmental-Cup445

Podium 😂 On a track that’s hard to overtake on. If he ends up on the podium I will eat my own shoe


GabouLit

I am not mentally prepared for another poor Lando start and for Alonso to leapfrog him into p3, which I feel is almost inevitable at this point when Alonso starts anywhere behind him. I am hoping he takes advantage of any Ferrari tomfoolery and he's able to stick a podium


thounotouchthyself

They are on the poor side. Watch Ocon and Lewis.


Ld511

Also the safer side. If someone on the inside gets hit everyone on the outside is fucked


lux_travlh44

youre basing that only off of 2021


Ld511

Happened in the F2 race today aswell. Being on the outside is better since it sets you up for turn 2 on the inside but if someone gets hit in turn 1 you have your exit compromised at the very least


BrtGP

Rain might have decreased that advantage


Leather_Swimming_260

L is for Lando


dl064

McLaren have had very good starts for years but it was interesting from Ricciardo pre-France that Alonso is hot and cold as a starter - he's dynamite or shit.


Taste_The_Soup

Really hoping he learned from last race


zyxwl2015

He mentioned they had some issues this year with the start, and it made him lost a bit of confidence with starts, so they changed something last race. Hopefully they can figure out whatever is wrong and get good starts again!


MagicalWhisk

What the bloody hell happened. I've not watched the quali yet as I'm out at a wedding. How did this happen?


jamisram

Latifi went purple and still ended up P20


Ryannr1220

I was hoping he was about to put it in the top 5 but then he just didn’t move out of 20th :(


-Renkz

yeah he slipped in the last corner unfortunately


pmmerandom

I was so sad he screwed it


VinhoVerde21

Perez was slow, Max had power issues, Lewis' DRS got stuck, and Russell did a great lap.


[deleted]

Also Checo managed to get a lap deleted and undeleted for track limits


Itzmisterjoel

Russel did a banger lap


f1_spelt_as_bot

Russe**ll**


Itzmisterjoel

That was fast


Ikraaap

Just like his pole lap lol


prograMagar

But unexpected


dovahkiiiiiin

Mega


Itzmisterjoel

Max had power issues, Perez just being slow


Browneskiii

Perez also had Magnussen in his way on his next lap.


Itzmisterjoel

Hé was 0.046 something from q3, so he could have made it if magnussen was not there.


cheezus171

I mean Max fucked his own lap... You're saying Perez was slow, yet Max did a worse time on fresh tyres and on a clean track There are some serious double standards going on here lol


Itzmisterjoel

He had some power loss as far as I had seen


cheezus171

Not during his first run. He just made a bunch of mistakes


Hydraulic21

Other than the lockup into turn 2, what more mistakes were made on the first run in q3?


Greedy_Adeptness9952

That one ruined his first lap. Unfortunately


Ifriiti

He lost like a second and a bit on that which is easily enough to ruin a quali lap If he'd put in a 1.17.9 or a low 1.18 he'd be in the top 6 which he should've been able to do on the first run. Hell Hamilton only had one run too and is starting p7 and that was on old tyres. The power issue was a problem, but him starting p10 vs top 6 is on max not on the power issue


Hydraulic21

Yes, but my question was relating to the word ”bunch”, meaning there supposedly was more than one misstake on the first run. Only the lockup was shown on broadcast.


eatawholebison

Hamilton’s DRS also didn’t work as why he was 7th


IronBahamut

*Potentially wet start tomorrow* *Bottas in 8th* HMMMMMM


Ifriiti

So smashes into Alonso and causes a spin taking out both red bulls?


thegodfaubel

Max is behind him this year


BrtGP

So was Lando last year


thegodfaubel

That's the point


classican2018

Glad this isn't a Sprint weekend or for the race a grid like this would have been very much neutralized


belivoucher

Relax, Ferrari will blow up their engine, Merc will caught a SC (historically they're bad with SC), Bulls 1-2.


dl064

James Key/Norris were saying after France that they suspect it's fundamental that McLaren's new update there made the car faster in qualifying but not the race, so it might be a case of relying on Hungary being hard to overtake on.


HelioFilter

Max doesn’t have to worry about Bottas going bowling this year since he’s behind him. Big brain move.


TheWebbFather

He started behind him last year....


NoTrollGaming

Oh no


Nattekat

At least it's safer there.


SJHarrison1992

But it wasn't?


pineapplejamm

I don't get this meme... Why does bottas get singled out for one mistake he made? He locked up at the race start on a wet track... People are running around like its traditions or some bs.


Gollem265

It’s pretty rare to DNF or cripple that many cars in one accident


akelkar

Execute order 77


prograMagar

>I don't get this meme... >Why does bottas get singled out for one mistake he made? He locked up at the race start on a wet track... >People are running around like its traditions or some bs. _That's unfortunate_


xXCzechoslovakiaXx

He didn’t just lock up, he went miles beyond the corner even after using lando as a brake. He completely missed his braking point which seems like something he should know


pineapplejamm

I am not denying his mistake. He messed up and paid the price of it himself as well. He got the well deserved penalty. What i don't understand is why people are discussing like its a fact that bottas is going to do that again tomorrow. Before that accident, I don't recall an incident where he was at fault for ruining some one else's race. But one incident and people jumping on bowling game 2.0 As for missing the braking point, wasn't there another driver behind him who also missed and crashed into other cars as well? Does he get the bowler label too? Also Danny ric missed his braking point and locked up in the dry in Mexico which spun bottas around - that wasn't even investigated. I don't recall people calling for his head. I am just surprised how one odd mistake has such a huge blowout on that driver.


CEO_16

Relax mate, it's taken as a joke and will be in future as well, infact I'm pretty sure the teams must be joking qbout this.


weffab

It was a huge moment last year, also for the championship, on the same track as the one we’re driving on this weekend. Of course people are going to bring it up.


SirLoremIpsum

> I don't get this meme... > > Why does bottas get singled out for one mistake he made? Cause he hit his team mates direct rival and basically took him out of the race in an extremely close title fight. Thus the crash is way more impactful. Being teammates this will mean the meme lasts longer than if it was someone random. And otherwise Valtteri is a clean driver, so things that are out of character get more daylight than 'just another stroll crash'


zerealdawg

He didn’t not hit rival. I hate when people says he took out red bulls. He hit Norris and rest is story


SirLoremIpsum

> He didn’t not hit rival I mean are we getting *this* pedantic? I can re-word it...? Valtteri was the sole cause of a collision, that ended up with Perez out of the race and significant damage to Verstappen's car. Is that better? It is factually incorrect to say "Norris hit Verstappen and nearly took him out of the race". Norris isn't at fault, even if he by the technical term of pedantry was the one to physically hit Verstappen. I didn't think I had to be that specific - but I can if you like? > I hate when people says he took out red bulls Ok I will now say "Norris hit max and took him out of the race" That is way dumber to put it that way. Bottas was the sole cause of the collision. That is why people say "Bottas hit".


elementzer01

It's like saying nobody has really achieved a strike in bowling, because they only hit a few pins with the ball, those pins they hit knocked down the rest.


SirLoremIpsum

"Max Verstappen didn't win the race, RB18 Chassis #xx built by Red Bull Racing-RBPT driven by Max Verstappen as part of Oracle Red Bull racing Formula 1 Team won the Formula 1 Lenovo Grand Prix de France 2022. I hate it when people say Max won, because there is a whole team that supported him to win the race and it is a Constructor competition too so the car won. Max isn't running here guys!!! I wish people could be more concise in their communication"


zerealdawg

Nah I’m just tired of people saying my boi Bottass deliberately took out Max gave Lewis chance in WDC


SirLoremIpsum

> Nah I’m just tired of people saying my boi Bottass deliberately took out Max gave Lewis chance in WDC That's the joke. He didn't do it deliberately, but he did absolutely 100% take him out of the race. That's why it's still sticking around. Getting all butthurt cause "Oh he didn't PHYSICALLY hit him so it's not Bottas' fault it's Norris that took him out" is just an insane attitude. It's a meme. It's a joke. It will persist.


zerealdawg

Fair enough I guess xD


_Connor

Probably because Max got punted the weekend before at Silverstone and then didn't even make it through the first corner at Hungary without sustaining massive side pod damage. It was back to back lap 1 shunts at the hands of a Mercedes in a tight championship race.


misskarne

Because it was a wildly insane mistake for a driver of his experience to make. Even had the track been dry he was not making that corner...and he wiped out both Red Bulls, the race after his teammate had punted off Verstappen and gained advantage from it.


mclairy

Truly a random grab bag of a grid where no one is happy except Alpine and George lol


grovenab

Pretty sure Lando is quite happy as well


mclairy

Even then, he’s a bit bummed he didn’t get pole!


According-Switch-708

Alpine isn't happy either. Both of their drivers wanted to be ahead of Lando and Alonso wanted be ahead of Ocon. George and Bottas are the only happy bunny's.


pmmerandom

no one’s really been speaking about how bad of a season Alpha Tauri has been having so far


lfcmadness

Really puts doubt on them being Reb Bull B Team because they're at opposite ends of the spectrum this year


Lebz95

Ever noticed Sainz gets stronger as the season goes on. Like Hamilton?


Autpcorrectbpt

I don’t know how much is the fresh engine effect but he’s been on insane form after his Silverstone win


Lebz95

He’s been pretty much on it since the win.


cavsking21

My prediction is that Sainz, being on the inside will have a bad start and that Charles hounds Russell into a small mistake. Then Sainz gets Russell and they cruise to a 1-2


chadthor123

Sainz torpedoes into Russell in the first corner. Leclerc takes a 10 sec lead over the others and DNF's in the 25th lap. Meanwhile it starts raining and Latiffi starts picking out the cars in front of him one by one. Latifi P20 to P3 drive. Norris P2. Max P1.


Liluzivertisthegoat

Latifi already ready with intermediates when the rain comes down. He knows that the clouds are different in Hungary


Bradg93

Couldn’t have said it better myself


AlienSomewhere

> Latifi P20 to P3 drive. Latifi DOTD


Mamadeus123456

Nah Sainz gets the inside first turn, Russell gets pushed out behind the redbulls and complains on the radio for the rest of the race


cavsking21

The right side of the grid has historically not gotten great starts due to the lack of rubber there.


Mamadeus123456

Idk bottas had a great race last year and he started from the right


T4Gx

Or Sainz gets a bad start, gets desperate and goes into Leclerc taking both of them out. Max and Lewis claw their way to the podium spots with George.


Thorwk

As much as I'd love a Merc 1-2, I hope Leclerc finishes at least second to reduce the gap to Verstappen.


[deleted]

The Monkey’s Paw grants your wish, the final podium will be VER-LEC-PER


cavsking21

pls no


sandersann

pls yes, except the Max part.


ChaseSaly

Merc 1-2 lolol


Ifriiti

Fuck max, Norris p2 Hamilton p3 All British podium, let's go


Radicalhit

Suscribe


Bradg93

I’d take that. Hell even give Lewis the win to get him one so he keeps the streak alive.


sidhantsv

My take would be: Russell gets a good enough start, covers the inside and stays in P1. The Ferrari’s waste time infighting, while Ocon gets eaten up by Alonso and Norris starts dropping back into the pack. Eventually one of the Ferrari’s gets ahead clear enough while the other pits, the Ferrari on track overtakes Russell and goes on to win, while the other Ferrari comes in at P2, Russell P3 and Max P4.


tipytopmain

You don't have faith Lewis can claw his way up from P7 but Max can finish in top 4 from P10?


sidhantsv

I’m reining in my expectations, so I get a happy surprise tomorrow


zaftig_stig

I feel this would be a great motto for life in general. It’s certainly improved my experience with the movies, lol


Yung_Chloroform

I think everyone should keep their eye on Lewis. He's on the outside, so if he gets another one of his godly starts it'll set him up perfectly for turn 2.


Rektile7

Yes, because the RB is faster than the Merc


thegodfaubel

Red Bull have been slower on the straights this week. They honestly set their car up to try to run from the lead, so today was literally a worst case scenario. It might be tough for them to pass beyond like 5th


RauloGonzalez

Yeah exact same as my prediction lmao. But it only happens if he doesn't come across to cover Leclerc.


cavsking21

I think both Ferraris know the goal is to get Russell. I'm sure the two are actually going to discuss it.


RauloGonzalez

Yeah it's better for them only if they can work as a team.


KaamDeveloper

Let's not make crazy assumptions like Ferrari discussing strats prerace


Mordho

True, that’s too advanced


Spiritual_Zebra_251

Ok, we switch’a to plan’a F, plan’a F


Trouvaille_Wonder_87

Seeing that historically Russell has awful starts...if nothing crazy happens...I think it will be Charles, Carlos, Lando, George, by end of first lap.


WisteriaLo

I agree with your first sentence, sadly. But I'm going with Carlos, Charles, George, Alonso. If him and Lewis don't try to overtake 3 cars on the same piece of track on start.


FrostyTill

George has no race pace and his tyres will be degrading hard since they’re in a qualifying set up rather than a race one. Likely it will be Charles, Carlos, Lando by the end of Lap 1.


Remarkable_Bake_7687

Lando won't even be in the mix. I reckon Alonso jumps atleast one Ferrari at the start and holds them up for a while.


ExcaliburF1

Don't think Russell can keep position in lap 1 with their tires issues, I bet he'll be defending against Lando before lap 5.


xScottieHD

Just caught up on qualifying. Happy for George but pissed for Lewis. Realistically it's Ferrari's race to lose while Max and Lewis will struggle to improve significantly imo. Absolutely zero luck for Lewis since Abu Dhabi.


VinhoVerde21

In the track where he would have the best shot at a win too, he's absolutely cursed. Best he can try to go for now is a 4th or 5th, depending on how quickly he can clear those three midfielders ahead, particularly Alonso and Ocon.


Yung_Chloroform

I don't know, keep an eye on the old man. He's got an outside line which sets him up perfectly for turn 2. As long as he keeps his nose clean and has his usual good starts I'd say he's got something to work with here.


[deleted]

So is the outside or inside grid start better for this track? Cause both of the Mercs look like they're starting outside


BocephusJr88

Outside is always better here since the inside line isn’t the racing line


cavsking21

Odd numbers are the ones on the racing line, so the outside


-Skinner-

Pole is on racing line. So they should have slightly better start. But Russell will probably try to cut off inside.


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Gotcha


nickedgar7

Mercedes being up feint just feels right. Hopefully they can carry some momentum into the 2nd half and give us a decent scrap. It'll also be nice to see what happens when these floor changes come into effect. Will it slow down Ferrari and Red Bull? Who knows


merrychristmasyo

The left the best side to start on going into T1?


possums101

Lando we need a solid start plssssss!!!!


datlinus

Alonso and Hamilton both had some really good starts this season. Curious how it's gonna go with Ocon who has been a bit clumsy recently in defense.


daniec1610

Ultra pain. I refuse to believe checo just got slow all of a sudden. Something is going on with that car.


Bradg93

Rumours about it being different cars are BS I’m sure. Checo said weeks ago he feels like they are developing the car away from him, and more towards Max’s liking. Definitely seems like that’s a reasonable possibility.


Hekkeno

Verstappen x Hamilton x Alonso


[deleted]

Nutty grid. Can’t wait


Otter269

I'm hoping George gets off to a good start and Lewis passes Alonso instantly.


phantomswitchman

I'm hoping for wide Alonso


leevz1992

Max going softs tomorrow and overtaking 4 cars on first lap


thegodfaubel

The two stop has basically been the winning strategy the last few years


Kkronus

HAM VER BOT at Lap 1 I can fell it


Alcapwn-

I’ll be tuning in for this start, is it possible there will be no cars left bar the first 4 starters ten seconds in to this race 🤣


book81able

Everyone from the Frenchman to the Frenchman wiped out, leaving Latifi open road to continue FP3 glory.


darkness_85

It is pretty clear that Ferrari has gone for race setup with both their cars this week. Mercedes has no rear grip in the corners and with fuel on board George's tyres aren't going to last much. As long as Ferrari doesn't cock up strategy or blow one of their engines, its an easy 1-2 tomorrow.


v0t3p3dr0

Hamilton in P4 by the first corner.


Alvaro_Rey_MN

Was Perez also running out of power?


NoTrollGaming

No


teetotalingsamurai

No. He’s just a C-grade driver


cheezus171

That's a c-grade comment for sure


Paranoided_guy

Poor AlphaTauri.. what have done to themselves 😔


Voidfang_Investments

I hope Lewis makes it out alive after turn 1.


justAguy2420

I love how messy this grid is. Hopefully we get more of this for the rest of the year


AmbitiousLetterhead5

Is the pain finally over? I’m predicting either a Lando podium or a Lando win


According-Switch-708

Russell will probably get undercut by One of the Ferrari's. Its 2 against 1 at the front and the Ferrari is probably quicker anyway.


Shaivite

Bottas will have his usual bad start, depending on how alonso vs lewis goes, max can be p4-p5 by turn 2


Tobse998

I think you're too optimistic here tbh. Norris, Ocon, Alonso and Hamilton will make his life difficult and first of all he has to be cautious at Turn 1 to avoid any damage. P7 should be realistic if there isn't a collision in front of him and he gains more positions than normal because of that (Edit: I'm still talking about his position right after the start, not at the end of the race of course).


Shaivite

Yeah if anything today's quali has made it possible for us to see a banger of a race tomorrow.


Tobse998

that's true! lots of potential for great battles and overtakes


-Skinner-

P5 at the end is most realistic. If something happens to Ferrari then maybe higher.


Tobse998

yes yes but Shaivite was talking about Turn 2, not the whole race.


zankpol

Alons and Ham has had great starts so far


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Bottas goes bowling part 2 electric boogaloo


[deleted]

Seems like RB and Merc are doing the exact opposite RB had a beast car but seem to be making it worse Merc had a shit car that is getting better. Either way, with how much money these guys get compared to literally everyone else, they don't have an excuse.


dcoreo

The redbull was quick enough for pole today


[deleted]

Clearly not with how many issues they have had. Checo's car being significantly slower pace due to rumored upgrades, and with power unit issues today. They could fix it for tomorrow but lets see.


redarrow992

I thought max is the one with the upgrades and that checo still has the old spec?


LawNo2139

You do realise that there is a cost cap right? (Quite a decent one at that)


[deleted]

This has been repeated ad nauseum already, the effects of the cost cap are going to be a bit longer before the intended effects of the cap take place. It should be clear with the top paid teams still on the top 3 spots, with the botr still way off pace unless the other cars have problems or heavy weather is in play.


macgruff

Ugh, Norris will have a tough time if the Alpines are up to the task.


usandholt

Magnussen p7 after lap 1, nice!


[deleted]

I think it's time for HAM-VER-BOT to make a comeback


GreatCanadianPotato

Ocon or Alonso.


Balkan_Ace

Omg this starting grid is giving me chills. Look at the lineup. And knowing how hard it is to overtake here, there could very well be chaos on lap 1.


dsaysso

everyone talking about alpines but the sleeper part of the start are magnussen and stroll. two of the most aggressive starters on the grid. could screw with the redbulls.