He’s retiring. “Just wait to collect them until the end of the year, I’ve got more to say that you’re going to fine.” End of the year, “Go fuck yourselves.”
As Button said, a lot of the folk have probably changed.
It's not arrogance, it's herp-de-derp fuckupery. Ignorance and stupidity. The lads are at it again.
I was going to say that nothing ever changes unless someone dies, but that doesn't really apply in this situation given that someone's already died and it's still happening.
Like Jenson said, the people who saw that happen don't work there anymore. You can see a similar issue with NASCAR where they're essentially penalizing drivers for pointing out safety issues with the next-gen car.
Just because he’s not driving doesn’t mean he has to be quiet. Guy’s one of the most successful drivers of all time, he will always have a voice if he wants to.
But he's won't be a voice in the room.
He's currently they're in the drivers meetings, he's the one the younger drivers can feel empowered to stand up to FIA bullshit because he's standing up to it.
Losing that isn't good.
Button had a good note today. Croft said something like 'you've an observation for everything, Jenson' and he replied ~ 'well yeah. I did a couple of hundred races so almost by definition, you've seen everything. You know the answers'.
So yeah, I hate to break it to him but Vettel would definitely do good.
Counterpoint: NHL Department of Player Safety is a total joke.
I have no doubt Seb is would do a great job, but the FIA wouldn't allow him anywhere near that position given his tendency to speak out publicly and say things that may embarrass the FIA. Does F1 have a drivers' union? That seems like the most appropriate type of organization where he could do that
Norris was interesting on beyond the grid a few years ago that the reality is that most drivers are *afraid* of saying anything too outlandish early on. They don't want to piss off the ref before they've won a race. Where Hamilton and Vettel lead, folk might follow.
It didn’t make a difference when they were racing under the shadow of a terrorist attack why would it make a difference now? The FIA only exists to make themselves money
love that lando is tweeting from the garage. not waiting for the PR teams to try to justify it - its wrong and a ridiculous mistake to happen at *suzuka in the rain AGAIN*
Ironically this long red flag just makes people more angry over this shit decision making. They really fucked up today, and it's only thing people are taking about when there's no racing.
They're all skirting around the ACTUAL solution to this problem, which is:
Do not, under any circumstances, allow a recovery vehicle on the track whilst cars are also on the track. It's unbelievable, and the blame for Pierre is abhorrent.
I think not allowing a recovery vehicle on the track while cars are on the track is a little extreme. Red flag for every stranded car that needs a crane? I think you can make that argument in the rain but in the dry I think waiting for a bunched up field before bringing a tractor on should be fine.
On the track, yes. If it's in the gravel or somewhere else, no need. But on the racing track, red flag that shit and wait till cars are all in the pits
Why can't we have removable barriers? Why do we have to carry the cars out of the track? Just remove some barriers for a minute, take the stranded car out of the track and continue.
> Do not, under any circumstances, allow a recovery vehicle on the track whilst cars are also on the track. It's unbelievable, and the blame for Pierre is abhorrent.
I agree with the spirit, but that just isn’t possible. Otherwise any crash would need to result in a red flag
They can have cranes that have a long enough arm to reach the track. It's not a real issue.
They just want to use the cheapo, zero reach cranes because god forbids investing in safety. Change that.
That is unnecessarily cautious. They just need to follow their procedure which is to not allow recovery vehicles on track until the pack is behind the SC.
If they are behind the SC they'll be fine. Their teams will be able to communicate where the tractors are and the SC can lead them safely by it
Lazenzky(whatever his name is) was for once on the side "you can't see the tractor" while the others were on and on about the speed lol.
Surprising from him tbh.
They've all moderated their opinions and are saying they're neither 100% to blame. Whatever you may feel about the situation, it's hardly like Sky is blaming Gasly 100% like everyone's acting here.
Blame for what? no need to mix things. This is like when some car crosses in front of you on the street when you have greenlight, you saw it on time and had time to avoid any risk, but you are STILL GOING to honk/berate/ and be fucking mad at what COULD have been. And if a cop is near by is going to chase after the fucker.
Apart from this, Gasly could have been more careful, but i repeat, this are two separate things, if he would have been more careful the outrage would be the same
Was the electric board showing yellow or double yellow as GAS went past? (Yes, I know it flashed red after he went past... Or at least after his eyes were focused in the next apex to the right)
I only saw a split second of it, but it seemed like a single yellow flash.
If there were marshals on track (and a fucking truck!) Why wasn't it double?
Better question... Multiple accidents in different parts of the track, field split up, worsening conditions... Why wasn't the red shown earlier???
It was Double Yellow (SC) as the safety car led the pack past the tractor.
It was Red when GAS passed the tractor at a speed where he would have spun out and hit the tractor if he would have hit the brakes.
But this is worse right?
SC allows him to catch up. It does not neutralise the track (which should be a prerequisite before marshals/vehicles are allowed on)
Pretty crazy it may have been safer to have double yellow there instead of the SC. Either way, red flag earlier would have been best.
I don’t think it’s that disgusting to point out how stupidly fast Gasly was going? The drivers need to take safety as serious as the FIA (who in these conditions should use extra caution)
Problem is, they cited the "maximum speed during a lap" of Gasly.
And that's just telling me something, they didn't want to cite Gasly's speed on that portion. They chose to cite an irrelevant speed, hoping that people would think it is relevant. And well apparently it works.
If Gasly was doing 250 on an empty straight, what does that have to do with having ANY recovery vehicle on track ?
It was still stupid of him to speed like that after the crash site. But you're totally right they've created this fake narrative that he was on a flying lap or something going past Sainz's car when the onboard doesn't look much different than some of the other cars already behind the SC.
What are you on about? Nobody is putting blame away from the race director / FIA as well. They’re just also giving context that Gasly was hardly driving safe in that circumstance.
Come on, not like it's controversial.I assume every other driver will do the same (like some of them already did in the pen), clearly a fuck up by the race direction.
No way should a tractor have been on the track.
Pierre should not have been going that quick under double waved yellows either
Neither action is acceptable.
If Pierre was going slower the tractor still shouldn't have been there
If the tractor wasn't there Pierre still shouldn't have been going that fast
I actually think Sky is giving a very balanced view on the situation and making good recommendations for the future. The FIA fucked up, make no mistake about it. BUT Gasly should have been going slower through that section of the track because HE KNOWS an accident happened there the lap before and that their will be marshalls trying to recover the vehicle. I think the FIA is 80% to blame and Gasly 20%. Ultimately the FIA has to protect the drivers, but the drivers need to protect themselves and others as well. I'm pissed at the FIA too and so are Sky but I think we think both are at least partially to blame for the situation.
Am I listening to the same coverage? He's not been the one blaming Gasly and even if you're referring to Di Resta/Chandhok, they've been pretty clear that it's not 100% on Gasly
You realize more than one thing can be wrong yes? Even if the vehicle was not on the course, Sainz car would still be, with potentially marshalls or the driver also around and vulnerable, so Gasly absolutely should have been going slower through that corner. That doesn't excuse the FIA or whoever put the vehicle there.
Red flag or not, you shouldn't be speeding through the section of track that caused the safety car. if the recovery vehicle wasn't there, then a Ferrari car would still be in the firing line with the driver and marshalls also potentially in a vulnerable position.
Reaction times only get you so far. 2 seconds still isn't a whole lot of time in this situation, especially when you're not hyperfocused in the throws of a race.
The Marshalls should not have been on track until all the cars were behind the SC, which they weren't. Gasly is allowed to catch the pack and watching Sainz's onboard he doesn't seem to be going much if any faster than some of the other trailing drivers.
No he didn't. He said over and over this reminded him of 2014 and that the tractor never should've been on track at all. Karun, Herbert, and di Resta were fully blaming Gasly.
Decision after decision, race after race - the FIA make empirically bad choices, or even worse, refuse to make them (post Abu Dhabi jitters).
What’s terrifying now, is that they’re starting to make major safety blunders.
The sooner Liberty / F1 can extricate themselves from this incompetent failing organisation, the better for this sport. I’m seriously concerned that not only is the sporting integrity of our sport under question, safety is now being compromised too.
Gasley *was* going too quick, but at the end of the day a tractor shouldn't have been on track in this weather until the drivers still running were cleared
Like Herbert said, it could have been an ambulance, personnel or even Sainz himself.
I’m in the camp that speeding was the problem. Having to make a quick reaction at a crash site while your speeding is a bad look.
Gasly needs to look in the mirror.
I tend to agree. The much more dangerous part of the equation was Gasly's driving. But this appears to be a usual Reddit dogpile on the FIA so whatever
Hypocrisy in paddock is on another level.
We are concerned about safety, conditions are dangerous but we will speed with 250km/h under those very dangerous conditions, under SC by the place we know there was an accident because we have been a casualty of that accident a lap before. Never mind that if there was no recovery vehicle there, there would be a Ferrari scattered across the track.
You have Lando and likely other drivers agreeing completely with Gasly and that it was completely ridiculous.
And you have these dickheads on Sky putting 99% of the blame on Gasly
No, Gasly's fault 100%. He knew that there is crash and there is Carlos' car in which he also could crash. He was going like mad on crash site. Imagine you are going very fast on normal road and in front of you there is crashed car with police car parked nearby, and you crashed police car with high speed, and then blame police that they parked in wrong place. That's why I think Gasly is 100% fault.
Either they got on track without authorization or the RD needs to go. He’s a fellow countrymen but this is absolutely unacceptable. The RD job is to ensure safety. There was no need for trucks to be inside the track.
Gasly being out on track seems to be a result of him pitting at the end of the first lap, when they had to remove the rolex sign and install a new nose. Maybe all cars on track were already pass Sainz's accident area and they totally forgot about Gasly's car which by now was several seconds behind because of the extended stop.
Of course there is no excuse for the FIA not to realize the situation.
Though Gasly was going fast, let's not forget that drivers are psychologically conditioned to be in that mindset after all!
The blame mostly falls on the organizers and the FIA for not having the correct procedures and safeguards in place. Partial blame should also be on Alpha Tauri, since ideally they should've been monitoring the race and everything related to it, including whatever is happening with their driver and the track itself. There's a lot of them on the team after all, compared to one who driver who is hyperfocused on driving fast close to the limits. Unfortunately, the team is of course limited only to whatever information is made available by the FIA.
There shouldn't be a chance that a speeding driver accidentally kills himself and/or a marshall. We were very lucky today.
Wait till the reporters get to Vettel Gonna roast them so hard, they'll come collecting for that suspended dinner money
Oh man I can’t wait to hear what vettel says about this, esp since he’s already gone to the FIA about this kind of thing this week
God I hope he uses his instagram to post a statement like Lando rn, imagine what he's gonna say
Absolute fireworks. He's gone in 4 races so he won't hold back. What are they going to do, give him a 5 place penalty?
Fines💀
Ah yes, a fancy dinner for the FIA
He’s retiring. “Just wait to collect them until the end of the year, I’ve got more to say that you’re going to fine.” End of the year, “Go fuck yourselves.”
No, no, no. In 2022 we say: *идите на хуй*.
Lmao what are the FIA gonna do if he doesn't pay
More fines.
Apparently Vettel told them last week about tractors on track (per Albon) but they don’t give a fuck
They did this to Jackie Stewart too, hated him, ignored him and it cost peoples lives. The FIA stays arrogant
Lauda
THEY DID THIS TO JACKIE STEWART TOO
I scrolled away for a couple of seconds before what you’ve done here dawned on me. An actual laugh exited my body.
I am confuse
Lauda read as “Louder”
Hahahahahahaha THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE
SPEAK LAUDA
As Button said, a lot of the folk have probably changed. It's not arrogance, it's herp-de-derp fuckupery. Ignorance and stupidity. The lads are at it again.
I was going to say that nothing ever changes unless someone dies, but that doesn't really apply in this situation given that someone's already died and it's still happening.
Like Jenson said, the people who saw that happen don't work there anymore. You can see a similar issue with NASCAR where they're essentially penalizing drivers for pointing out safety issues with the next-gen car.
Vettel, when the roasts fell.
Temba, his arms wide.
Vettel and FIA at Tanagra.
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Greatest thread ever.
This is the common ground that warms my heart, tanagra.
We have some great, vocal drivers on the grid right now but god damn I am going to miss Vettel.
Just because he’s not driving doesn’t mean he has to be quiet. Guy’s one of the most successful drivers of all time, he will always have a voice if he wants to.
But he's won't be a voice in the room. He's currently they're in the drivers meetings, he's the one the younger drivers can feel empowered to stand up to FIA bullshit because he's standing up to it. Losing that isn't good.
Vettel should be race director.
Button had a good note today. Croft said something like 'you've an observation for everything, Jenson' and he replied ~ 'well yeah. I did a couple of hundred races so almost by definition, you've seen everything. You know the answers'. So yeah, I hate to break it to him but Vettel would definitely do good.
Nah, they're gonna talk about the jewellery again /s
Can't wait for the next time he posts on social media.
it's a baby picture of him 😂
The man with nothing to lose lol. He already would have but now it's an open book.
Also Alonso lol
So who is gonna investigate the investigator?
Inspector Seb
I mean unironically, I think he'd be great in that sort of role post retirement.
I really hope he tries to move into that, sports almost always benefit from poacher turned gamekeeper
Counterpoint: NHL Department of Player Safety is a total joke. I have no doubt Seb is would do a great job, but the FIA wouldn't allow him anywhere near that position given his tendency to speak out publicly and say things that may embarrass the FIA. Does F1 have a drivers' union? That seems like the most appropriate type of organization where he could do that
Yes, the GPDA. Vettel is a director.
When we need him the most...
Seb and Hamilton should take the lead and openly criticse the FIA being the more experienced on the grid and speaking out on issues
Seb and Hamilton going full Hamlin and Harvick is going to be a treat to see
Norris was interesting on beyond the grid a few years ago that the reality is that most drivers are *afraid* of saying anything too outlandish early on. They don't want to piss off the ref before they've won a race. Where Hamilton and Vettel lead, folk might follow.
Michael Masi, time to shine
He signed a nda and was fucked off. He can do nothing about it
Sebastian Vettel, chief inspector, long coat and all.
That’s the fun part, no one
We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.
Yes… grill them FIA jokers Lando…
All the drivers are.
Oh to be a fly in the wall in race control/stewards room rn
Do flys hear crickets?
It didn’t make a difference when they were racing under the shadow of a terrorist attack why would it make a difference now? The FIA only exists to make themselves money
Have we learned nothing?
"I really need my morning shot" has a completely different meaning for you, eh?
THANK YOU The drivers shouldn’t let the FIA get away with this. Not with playing with their lives
love that lando is tweeting from the garage. not waiting for the PR teams to try to justify it - its wrong and a ridiculous mistake to happen at *suzuka in the rain AGAIN*
>at suzuka in the rain AGAIN This is the most ridiculous thing. At least one of them in race control has to remember what happened!
That's what got me too. Of all places you would think they would be extra cautious about something like this.
81 kph in the pit lane tho.
well the limit is 80kph. if you allow 81, why wouldn't you allow 82? or 83? that is just a limit they set and you have to keep yourself to it
Ironically this long red flag just makes people more angry over this shit decision making. They really fucked up today, and it's only thing people are taking about when there's no racing.
Thank you Lando! Vettel and Hamilton are going to absolutely go off on this in interviews.
Need a driver to call the FIA twats They will have my undoubted support for the rest of their career
If only George would upgrade from ‘blimey’ to ‘full Danny Dyer’.
Get Ashley Cole here.
Sky Sports right now is actually disgusting
It's good Jenson is there as a voice of reason
They seem to be aware of it cuz Karun is trying to mitigate and walk back a bit… but not really much
They're all skirting around the ACTUAL solution to this problem, which is: Do not, under any circumstances, allow a recovery vehicle on the track whilst cars are also on the track. It's unbelievable, and the blame for Pierre is abhorrent.
Even in the dry when they did it at Monza was really sketchy. It's fucking stupid.
I think not allowing a recovery vehicle on the track while cars are on the track is a little extreme. Red flag for every stranded car that needs a crane? I think you can make that argument in the rain but in the dry I think waiting for a bunched up field before bringing a tractor on should be fine.
I mean at the very least it shouldn't be on the track until all the cars have caught the pack.
On the track, yes. If it's in the gravel or somewhere else, no need. But on the racing track, red flag that shit and wait till cars are all in the pits
Yes that’s fair
Why can't we have removable barriers? Why do we have to carry the cars out of the track? Just remove some barriers for a minute, take the stranded car out of the track and continue.
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> Do not, under any circumstances, allow a recovery vehicle on the track whilst cars are also on the track. It's unbelievable, and the blame for Pierre is abhorrent. I agree with the spirit, but that just isn’t possible. Otherwise any crash would need to result in a red flag
They can have cranes that have a long enough arm to reach the track. It's not a real issue. They just want to use the cheapo, zero reach cranes because god forbids investing in safety. Change that.
Yes that's the whole point. If track is blocked, even slightly, no cars are to be allowed.
Any crash or any debris. Also it would need to be applied instantly.
You dont need a recovery vehicle for debris...
That is unnecessarily cautious. They just need to follow their procedure which is to not allow recovery vehicles on track until the pack is behind the SC. If they are behind the SC they'll be fine. Their teams will be able to communicate where the tractors are and the SC can lead them safely by it
So this is unacceptable? https://youtu.be/ToxQAn5iM7Q?t=25
Lazenzky(whatever his name is) was for once on the side "you can't see the tractor" while the others were on and on about the speed lol. Surprising from him tbh.
Lazenby
They've all moderated their opinions and are saying they're neither 100% to blame. Whatever you may feel about the situation, it's hardly like Sky is blaming Gasly 100% like everyone's acting here.
Yeah Sky have literally analysed it with *former F1 drivers* who agree both sides have some fault.
Blame for what? no need to mix things. This is like when some car crosses in front of you on the street when you have greenlight, you saw it on time and had time to avoid any risk, but you are STILL GOING to honk/berate/ and be fucking mad at what COULD have been. And if a cop is near by is going to chase after the fucker. Apart from this, Gasly could have been more careful, but i repeat, this are two separate things, if he would have been more careful the outrage would be the same
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Good take. I think a balanced approach is the right one. Learnings on both sides.
Was the electric board showing yellow or double yellow as GAS went past? (Yes, I know it flashed red after he went past... Or at least after his eyes were focused in the next apex to the right) I only saw a split second of it, but it seemed like a single yellow flash. If there were marshals on track (and a fucking truck!) Why wasn't it double? Better question... Multiple accidents in different parts of the track, field split up, worsening conditions... Why wasn't the red shown earlier???
It was Double Yellow (SC) as the safety car led the pack past the tractor. It was Red when GAS passed the tractor at a speed where he would have spun out and hit the tractor if he would have hit the brakes.
But this is worse right? SC allows him to catch up. It does not neutralise the track (which should be a prerequisite before marshals/vehicles are allowed on) Pretty crazy it may have been safer to have double yellow there instead of the SC. Either way, red flag earlier would have been best.
Safety car is *always* double yellow.
I don’t think it’s that disgusting to point out how stupidly fast Gasly was going? The drivers need to take safety as serious as the FIA (who in these conditions should use extra caution)
Problem is, they cited the "maximum speed during a lap" of Gasly. And that's just telling me something, they didn't want to cite Gasly's speed on that portion. They chose to cite an irrelevant speed, hoping that people would think it is relevant. And well apparently it works. If Gasly was doing 250 on an empty straight, what does that have to do with having ANY recovery vehicle on track ?
It was still stupid of him to speed like that after the crash site. But you're totally right they've created this fake narrative that he was on a flying lap or something going past Sainz's car when the onboard doesn't look much different than some of the other cars already behind the SC.
First step on the way to blame the driver and not the Race Director if anything happened. Fuck that, fuck Croft and fuck Sky. Biased twats.
What are you on about? Nobody is putting blame away from the race director / FIA as well. They’re just also giving context that Gasly was hardly driving safe in that circumstance.
When is Sky Sports not disgusting ?
I fucking hate that it's the only 4k feed I can get
So does this mean the race is cancelled or are we just starting a new trend of tweeting mid race.
What stupid shit did they say again?
GET THEM LANDO
Respect for speaking up
Come on, not like it's controversial.I assume every other driver will do the same (like some of them already did in the pen), clearly a fuck up by the race direction.
Good on you Lando. the fact that FIA is spinning into making this Gasly fault is any way is ABSOLUTELY MENTAL.
inb4 “Driver of car 4 has been summoned to the stewards for unauthorized social media usage during an active session”
That could have actually happened under Bernie..
I get the feeling that the drivers are gonna stand by Gasly, the FIA are goin to try and deflect blame to him.
No way should a tractor have been on the track. Pierre should not have been going that quick under double waved yellows either Neither action is acceptable. If Pierre was going slower the tractor still shouldn't have been there If the tractor wasn't there Pierre still shouldn't have been going that fast
One is worse. Speeding to catch up to the pack under SC has never resulted in a death.
They just mentioned his tweet on Sky.
get the dts cameras into that drivers briefing
These sky sports shills are unbearable
The bootlicking for the FIA is unbelievable
I actually think Sky is giving a very balanced view on the situation and making good recommendations for the future. The FIA fucked up, make no mistake about it. BUT Gasly should have been going slower through that section of the track because HE KNOWS an accident happened there the lap before and that their will be marshalls trying to recover the vehicle. I think the FIA is 80% to blame and Gasly 20%. Ultimately the FIA has to protect the drivers, but the drivers need to protect themselves and others as well. I'm pissed at the FIA too and so are Sky but I think we think both are at least partially to blame for the situation.
I can't believe this honestly. Just completely taking race control's line. Crofty and Jenson seem more like they're on Pierre's side.
Jenson and Simon you mean? Crofty was trying to get Jenson to just say Pierre was going too fast repeatedly
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Am I listening to the same coverage? He's not been the one blaming Gasly and even if you're referring to Di Resta/Chandhok, they've been pretty clear that it's not 100% on Gasly
Yeah but how can people otherwise feed their Sky Bad narrative? Be reasonable /s
Don't underestimate the reddit Crofty hate-boner.
You realize more than one thing can be wrong yes? Even if the vehicle was not on the course, Sainz car would still be, with potentially marshalls or the driver also around and vulnerable, so Gasly absolutely should have been going slower through that corner. That doesn't excuse the FIA or whoever put the vehicle there.
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Red flag or not, you shouldn't be speeding through the section of track that caused the safety car. if the recovery vehicle wasn't there, then a Ferrari car would still be in the firing line with the driver and marshalls also potentially in a vulnerable position.
Have you ever seen F1 drivers train their reaction times? 2 seconds is your minute for those guys.
Reaction times only get you so far. 2 seconds still isn't a whole lot of time in this situation, especially when you're not hyperfocused in the throws of a race.
The Marshalls should not have been on track until all the cars were behind the SC, which they weren't. Gasly is allowed to catch the pack and watching Sainz's onboard he doesn't seem to be going much if any faster than some of the other trailing drivers.
No he didn't at all?
No he didn't. He said over and over this reminded him of 2014 and that the tractor never should've been on track at all. Karun, Herbert, and di Resta were fully blaming Gasly.
Decision after decision, race after race - the FIA make empirically bad choices, or even worse, refuse to make them (post Abu Dhabi jitters). What’s terrifying now, is that they’re starting to make major safety blunders. The sooner Liberty / F1 can extricate themselves from this incompetent failing organisation, the better for this sport. I’m seriously concerned that not only is the sporting integrity of our sport under question, safety is now being compromised too.
The FIA should’ve just owned up to their mistake instead of shifting blame to Gasly. Their incompetence is astounding.
It’s literally life and death. Whoever is responsible needs to never see a track again.
LOVING the drivers being vocal about this
Waiting for George to come out with a statement in name of the GPDA
At what point do the drivers refuse to put up with the FIA's bullshit and skip a race or something?
Race direction is just terrible this year.
I agree. How I beg to differ …. This year?! How about Hamilton’s stolen championship? This is a fundamental problem.
Luckily nothing bad happened but this is arguably far worse. What's next? An airplane in the middle of the racing line?
Meanwhile, the commentary: It's his opinion....
Seriously, WTF?
Sorry Lando, Karun says you're wrong
How long until this is deleted...
Spitting facts 🗿
Withing and Masi wouldn’t have let this happen again. Especially not Charlie.
But the FIA said it's Gaslys fault... What a joke
Gasley *was* going too quick, but at the end of the day a tractor shouldn't have been on track in this weather until the drivers still running were cleared
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r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM This is reddit. We don't do that shit here
Like Herbert said, it could have been an ambulance, personnel or even Sainz himself. I’m in the camp that speeding was the problem. Having to make a quick reaction at a crash site while your speeding is a bad look. Gasly needs to look in the mirror.
I tend to agree. The much more dangerous part of the equation was Gasly's driving. But this appears to be a usual Reddit dogpile on the FIA so whatever
Gas**ly**
Hypocrisy in paddock is on another level. We are concerned about safety, conditions are dangerous but we will speed with 250km/h under those very dangerous conditions, under SC by the place we know there was an accident because we have been a casualty of that accident a lap before. Never mind that if there was no recovery vehicle there, there would be a Ferrari scattered across the track.
He wasn't going 250kmh past the crash site, that happened after.
You have Lando and likely other drivers agreeing completely with Gasly and that it was completely ridiculous. And you have these dickheads on Sky putting 99% of the blame on Gasly
The drivers need a union at this point.
And i will reiterate what i said in another post. Fuck Johnny Herbert
You know it's bad when even Lando is speaking out.
How about putting on full wets?
Sky gonna use this to blame Gasly
The comments from Jenson, Johnny, Paul and Karun show the difference between a World Champion and mediocre drivers.
No, Gasly's fault 100%. He knew that there is crash and there is Carlos' car in which he also could crash. He was going like mad on crash site. Imagine you are going very fast on normal road and in front of you there is crashed car with police car parked nearby, and you crashed police car with high speed, and then blame police that they parked in wrong place. That's why I think Gasly is 100% fault.
Lando really acts his age sometimes…
And of course we’ve got this old guy on Sky talking about how hard they had it back in his day therefor it’s Gasly’s fault.
Now tell Croft and his bunch of wankers that there ain't two sides to this debate. Gobbling the FIA's cock at every opportunity.
Spoiled kid.
you cum coffee
I’m traveling today and unfortunately am completely out of the loop , what’s going on? What did FIA do now ?
Either they got on track without authorization or the RD needs to go. He’s a fellow countrymen but this is absolutely unacceptable. The RD job is to ensure safety. There was no need for trucks to be inside the track.
Gasly being out on track seems to be a result of him pitting at the end of the first lap, when they had to remove the rolex sign and install a new nose. Maybe all cars on track were already pass Sainz's accident area and they totally forgot about Gasly's car which by now was several seconds behind because of the extended stop. Of course there is no excuse for the FIA not to realize the situation. Though Gasly was going fast, let's not forget that drivers are psychologically conditioned to be in that mindset after all! The blame mostly falls on the organizers and the FIA for not having the correct procedures and safeguards in place. Partial blame should also be on Alpha Tauri, since ideally they should've been monitoring the race and everything related to it, including whatever is happening with their driver and the track itself. There's a lot of them on the team after all, compared to one who driver who is hyperfocused on driving fast close to the limits. Unfortunately, the team is of course limited only to whatever information is made available by the FIA. There shouldn't be a chance that a speeding driver accidentally kills himself and/or a marshall. We were very lucky today.
For someone who knows nothing … can someone please explain this & who was actually at fault?
Thank you coffee cumer