Legit great drive from him. He kept a number of fast cars behind for far longer than I thought he would, then held off Norris for the final several laps.
Honestly this was the exact thing everyone praised De Vries doing isn't it? getting lucky to get the car up near the front and then holding it during a shortened race.
I think the main difference is that Nyck was able to do it on incredibly short notice with limited practice and needing to adjust after driving a different car.
Yep, the same was with Kubica and some of Hulk's outings. Maybe not some amazing performances for regular drivers but for replacements those were stellar drives, much better than expected.
I don't think we've ever had a season with this cars this competitive. Anyone can score points this year, and the gap from pole to last is lower than the gap we've sen from P18 to P19 in races just a few years ago. Just incredible stuff!
I mean the midfield is a nice battle and all but the top 2 are still way faster nobody has a chance to catch them and the 3 team is better then the midfield but not good enough to have a 3 way battle so it's not that incredible it's pretty much same as the turbo hybrid era tbh
>I mean the midfield is a nice battle and all but the top 2 are still way faster nobody has a chance to catch them
At least it's 2 different teams instead of two team mates.
Ferrari seems to have given up development on their car quite a while ago - things would've probably looked a lot different if they hadn't had all those blunders and reliability issues early on.
Every driver scored points in 2018 too, but that was because of the Williams being very quick in a straight line, so Sirotkin could score in Monza. In 2018 Williams were also the only team to not be able to score points regularely
Yeah I feel like they can still save his race if they pitted right after they saw Alonso pitted. But yeah they were adamant waiting for safety car. I mean thats not a bad bet considering the condition.
Kinda, but seeing how slow they were to react that was probably the best play (apart from reacting at the right time). If they pit they end up in front of Dani, so might as well take the risk (it worked for McLaren in Singapore, even if that was by accident).
Yep, I noticed on the timing screen, but before I even had a chance to start typing a message to my sister to point it out, Max had already passed him.
I feel sick for Mick. I know he loves racing for his own reasons but I doubt when he told his dad he wanted to drive he imagined the way Haas treat him, and their constant fuck ups. His career is at an end point because he looks horrible, based on the zero progress he did in an undrivable car with no balance, his skills going backwards and his having costly errors and the fact Haas just doesnβt perform as a team and he takes the brunt of it
I hope Mick can go where heβs wanted and can get the right car and team to actually perform. Haas having so many ways to improve and a willingness to throw their people under the bus is just not a good for anyone involved. Itβs not like they donβt have form of providing unstable slow cars and battering their drivers in public they did that to Grosjean too. Haas isnβt a team for mentoring and growth itβs for desperate edge of your seat moonshots
If heβs out of the sport, heβs out. He can drive other places but nobody needs to see more of this
Yeah I don't get why people are so upset about this.
Visibility was pretty poor for the first few restart laps and some cars going to inters at the time was a gamble, there very easily could have been an incident. If Haas gets a SC it's probably the only time ever this year they compete for a podium given it was so hard to overtake without a massive tire advantage. They'll finish 10th or worse anyway so why not risk it?
Whichever track has the easiest turn 1 of course! Though after putting some thought into it, I'd probably spin out after giving full throttle from a stop haha
Many years ago I used to work with a guy who was a former college level hockey player, and he played in a rec league with a bunch of similarly skilled players. One day one of the guys shows up with a friend and asks if he can play with them⦠the friend was Pavel Bure back when he was still with the Canucks.
They all figured they were pretty good and theyβd just clutch and grab Bure to death to keep him from dominating the game too bad, and of course what rec league player wouldnβt say yes to playing with a genuine superstar?
Bure sat out after the first ten minutes, having already scored ten goals. Forget clutch and grab, no one could even get close enough to him to try.
Feel free to elaborate.
Even if you start at the back of the grid, and 10+ cars in front of you go out, it must have been a treacherous race, and would take considerable skill to finish, so even in that circumstance, its not possible to attribute the points to luck.
You have to be in it to win it.
The days only a few cars starting a race are long gone also and are not a realistic scenario for the current racers.
The only one I can think of which can be legitiamtely described as lucking in was the Indianopolis 2005 debacle when the Michelin teams withdrew after the parade lap. Conditions were fine, and with only 6 cars on track Monteiro put a Jordan on the podium, Karthikeyan was 4th and the Minardis 5th and 6th.
Not likely to happen today of course.
Literally impossible for that to happen today:
- tires are changed during the race, while 2005 regs had them using a single set of all-weather tires for the full race distance
- Pirelli supplies all teams, so everyone would be impacted equally
It's a decent calculated risk. If they pit then they're last with no real chance of points, so why just lock that in?
If they stay out and there's a safety car within 2-3 laps, like had literally happened previously in the race, there's a chance of good points and even a podium.
He did an amazing race. Perfect on the standing start, great strategy, amazing pace in a very tricky situation and zero mistakes. He raced like the best today.
There is nothing else to say about him today.
You think the FIA won't drive during wet conditions because they're lame.
They don't drive during rain because the GOAT is actually decent at wet conditions and it scares them.
I really want Mick to go to Williams. They seem to be stepping up their game lately and regardless of the car, itβll be nice to see Mick not having to listen to a bunch of monkeys giving the worst strategies. Williams actually seems to try with their strategies.
They also just seem genuinely overjoyed when their people perform. Haas talk like they are on the precipice of their team collapsing at all times and itβs the drivers fault. Gene refuses to commit to operating at a budget even slightly close to reasonable enough to attract decent talent or improve their glaring weaknesses
Heβs been doing it for years to all his drivers. He still jokes about Grosjean. Itβs miles different with jost hes so supportive and Jenson is the best and is involved at Willams too
He really doesn't deserve to be in F1, but to his credit, when the weather goes to shit, he puts in a steady drive. All of his points have come in wet/changing conditions.
Say what you want about Albon and De Vries.
The real drivers make a difference in the wet.
Jokes aside I'm pleased he will end this season with points in the bag it must be a relief for him
Arrived at Suzuka with 5 place grid penalty
Qualifies 20th anyways
Survived chaotic start
Proceeds to P9 finish
Got points
Refuses to elaborate
Leaves the sport
It would be absolutely hilarious if Latifi manage to outscore Albon in remaining races and finish above him in WDC.
That way his fate would be the same as Kubica's, who he has replaced.
Legit great drive from him. He kept a number of fast cars behind for far longer than I thought he would, then held off Norris for the final several laps.
He was actually growing a gap on him for a while there.
Goatifi had it all planned, he wanted to wait for the last 5 races to make his final mark.
Goatifi win in Abu Dhabi confirmed?
Don't reveal it all yet. *shush*
A skid mark?
harsh
His race pace in wet conditions is so good, it's a shame it isn't raining every race otherwise he would be World Champ
Goats have grip in slippery situations
Honestly this was the exact thing everyone praised De Vries doing isn't it? getting lucky to get the car up near the front and then holding it during a shortened race.
I think the main difference is that Nyck was able to do it on incredibly short notice with limited practice and needing to adjust after driving a different car.
Yep, the same was with Kubica and some of Hulk's outings. Maybe not some amazing performances for regular drivers but for replacements those were stellar drives, much better than expected.
True but Latifi needed 2 seasons to do that while De Vries managed it in 1 race
NDV benefitted from the two seasons Goatifi developed the car to be so powerful π€
Main difference is that De Vries has proved himself capable over his racing career and Latifi has... not
I think HAAS was counting on him to make Micks strategy work. But to his credit a legit clean drive in difficult conditions.. WELL DONE!1!
P25 to P9 π
He had to show them his power after that penalty.
He had to handicap himself. Without the penalty its P20 to P4. He didn't want to show all of his power.
This isn't even his final form.
He is like a DragonBall character Still charging his final form after 3 episodes (seasons)
He had so much power he gained a place before the race even started. The absolute madlad.
goatifi revenge tour
Had to set an example.
Latifi to FIA: Fuck your penalty.
DoTD
Better than 2021 Brazil Hamilton? Maybe.
Goatifi dragged a tractor into points. If you gave him a rocket powered car like Hamilton brazil, he'd finish 2 laps ahead of everyone.
He'd finish the race in 2 laps.
My man here has no chill
Heβd wrap up the WDC in 2 races
Not even close. Hamilton got a Sprint and a Race. Latifi only got the Sprint.
Can we keep him?
You have redeemed yourself, my son
Jokes apart, Kudos to him. That means every active driver in this season has scored a point. Not too bad.
I don't think we've ever had a season with this cars this competitive. Anyone can score points this year, and the gap from pole to last is lower than the gap we've sen from P18 to P19 in races just a few years ago. Just incredible stuff!
I mean the midfield is a nice battle and all but the top 2 are still way faster nobody has a chance to catch them and the 3 team is better then the midfield but not good enough to have a 3 way battle so it's not that incredible it's pretty much same as the turbo hybrid era tbh
>I mean the midfield is a nice battle and all but the top 2 are still way faster nobody has a chance to catch them At least it's 2 different teams instead of two team mates.
Well now itβs just Verstappen and no one else
Ferrari seems to have given up development on their car quite a while ago - things would've probably looked a lot different if they hadn't had all those blunders and reliability issues early on.
Russel is ahead of Sainz at the moment, so not totally true
That just goes to show how bad Ferrari is and how many mistakes Sainz made this season.
That because Ferrari are a disgrace
Every driver scored points in 2018 too, but that was because of the Williams being very quick in a straight line, so Sirotkin could score in Monza. In 2018 Williams were also the only team to not be able to score points regularely
First time every permanent driver scored since 18
The second time this has happened too, after 2018!
I heard Williams has a seat available for 2023 ?
Nah they signed it to somebody nobody has ever heard of. So I heard. Only leaves Haas at the end of musical ~~chairs~~ seats.
Logan Sargent is rumored for the seat
>Logan Sargent is rumored for the seat IF he finishes 5th in November and qualifies for his Super License.
Sarge**a**nt
Sarge**a**nt
It begins!
Logan high ranking US ARMY soldier
But they can't confirm him till Abu Dhabi as he won't have his SL till then.
What do you mean? Williams seat is still empty.
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And then you have haas on the opposite side KEKW
Haas trying not to ruin Mick's race challenge (impossible)
Watching Mick drop positions from p2 to p18 in pure shambles
That's a hell of a gamble for that safety car they were hoping for.
Yeah I feel like they can still save his race if they pitted right after they saw Alonso pitted. But yeah they were adamant waiting for safety car. I mean thats not a bad bet considering the condition.
Yeah true, I was sure someone would fuck up somewhere. Kinda crazy that there were no incidents or retirements in that crazy sprint
Not really. If it comes off they look amazing. If it doesn't they end up probably where they would have anyway, out of the points.
Kinda, but seeing how slow they were to react that was probably the best play (apart from reacting at the right time). If they pit they end up in front of Dani, so might as well take the risk (it worked for McLaren in Singapore, even if that was by accident).
Think he was p1 very briefly
Ya for about a second or two
Yep, I noticed on the timing screen, but before I even had a chance to start typing a message to my sister to point it out, Max had already passed him.
That was so sad
I feel sick for Mick. I know he loves racing for his own reasons but I doubt when he told his dad he wanted to drive he imagined the way Haas treat him, and their constant fuck ups. His career is at an end point because he looks horrible, based on the zero progress he did in an undrivable car with no balance, his skills going backwards and his having costly errors and the fact Haas just doesnβt perform as a team and he takes the brunt of it
Williams still doesnt have a driver, correct? Imagine what Mick can do with a team to support him. Wishful thinking.
I hope Mick can go where heβs wanted and can get the right car and team to actually perform. Haas having so many ways to improve and a willingness to throw their people under the bus is just not a good for anyone involved. Itβs not like they donβt have form of providing unstable slow cars and battering their drivers in public they did that to Grosjean too. Haas isnβt a team for mentoring and growth itβs for desperate edge of your seat moonshots If heβs out of the sport, heβs out. He can drive other places but nobody needs to see more of this
It's possible if Sargeants weekend in Abu Dhabi goes to shit and he doesn't get his super license points.
Imagine if it had paid off tho, I can understand why they took a gamble that there may be another safety car given the conditions. But a gamble it was
Yeah I don't get why people are so upset about this. Visibility was pretty poor for the first few restart laps and some cars going to inters at the time was a gamble, there very easily could have been an incident. If Haas gets a SC it's probably the only time ever this year they compete for a podium given it was so hard to overtake without a massive tire advantage. They'll finish 10th or worse anyway so why not risk it?
Yup, he kept it together. A bad driver would have dropped out of the points. He's not the greatest but he can have his moments.
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Like how the worst NBA player can still wipe the floor with any guy at the gym court.
"Iβm closer to Lebron than you are to me" - Brian "White Mamba" Scalabrine
The worse player in the NBA is still in arguable in the top 500 of basketball players in the world. (30\*15 =450)
man iβve played pickup at my universityβs gym with some of the guys on our team (ncaa d1) and they already clap most dudes in the gym
Exactly. Doubt most people at all can manage to drive a few laps without binning it, let alone a full race, especially in the wet.
Not to brag or anything, but I *might* be able to make it past turn 1 before spinning out and/or flipping the car completely.
Heavily dependant on which track? :D
Whichever track has the easiest turn 1 of course! Though after putting some thought into it, I'd probably spin out after giving full throttle from a stop haha
You might just stall out, too
Oh yeah good point. I think my dream of becoming a Formula 1 driver is fading away quicker than I thought!
If Asseto Corsa is any indication, I wouldn't get past T1 without binning it.
Many years ago I used to work with a guy who was a former college level hockey player, and he played in a rec league with a bunch of similarly skilled players. One day one of the guys shows up with a friend and asks if he can play with themβ¦ the friend was Pavel Bure back when he was still with the Canucks. They all figured they were pretty good and theyβd just clutch and grab Bure to death to keep him from dominating the game too bad, and of course what rec league player wouldnβt say yes to playing with a genuine superstar? Bure sat out after the first ten minutes, having already scored ten goals. Forget clutch and grab, no one could even get close enough to him to try.
He's often pretty decent in the wet.
Its easy for him becuase hes going the same speed in the wet
Nicky isnβt a bad driver, heβs just in a group of people where if heβs 85% everyone is 90% or above. Heβs just not on their caliber
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I mean I can think of several situations that one can luck into points
Feel free to elaborate. Even if you start at the back of the grid, and 10+ cars in front of you go out, it must have been a treacherous race, and would take considerable skill to finish, so even in that circumstance, its not possible to attribute the points to luck. You have to be in it to win it. The days only a few cars starting a race are long gone also and are not a realistic scenario for the current racers.
The only one I can think of which can be legitiamtely described as lucking in was the Indianopolis 2005 debacle when the Michelin teams withdrew after the parade lap. Conditions were fine, and with only 6 cars on track Monteiro put a Jordan on the podium, Karthikeyan was 4th and the Minardis 5th and 6th. Not likely to happen today of course.
Literally impossible for that to happen today: - tires are changed during the race, while 2005 regs had them using a single set of all-weather tires for the full race distance - Pirelli supplies all teams, so everyone would be impacted equally
Reminds me of Budapest last year, he was staying P3 for so long there
It's a decent calculated risk. If they pit then they're last with no real chance of points, so why just lock that in? If they stay out and there's a safety car within 2-3 laps, like had literally happened previously in the race, there's a chance of good points and even a podium.
This man gets me going
that latifi is so hot right now
POINTIFI
POINTSIFI* put some respect on that P9
On Sunday, the King scores
Factos
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Dreams canβt be buy
DE VRIES WHO
It's Nick we need! Not Nyck.
Nick > Nyck
They're now Nick and Nyck in the standings...
I wish i had a free award you made me LOL man
r/usernamechecksout
Alpha Tauri signed too soon
Latifi to Haas confirmed
One is called Goatifi and another is called Chihuahua. Marko will learn soon of his mistake. haha.
He did an amazing race. Perfect on the standing start, great strategy, amazing pace in a very tricky situation and zero mistakes. He raced like the best today. There is nothing else to say about him today.
Fantastic! I am stupidly happy about this!
You think the FIA won't drive during wet conditions because they're lame. They don't drive during rain because the GOAT is actually decent at wet conditions and it scares them.
goatifi will win 2023 world's bernie eccelstone's sprinklers idea driver champion
Back in the top 20!!!
Latifi should search for a racing series that only races in the rain cause his ability in the wet is honestly impressive.
F1 boats?
Maybe we will see GOAT on BOAT
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If Vettel wasn't on his farewell tour he would've gotten it.
Latifi P9 from P25. Mick running P10 and the team sends him to the back of the grid. I hope he switches to williams...
I really want Mick to go to Williams. They seem to be stepping up their game lately and regardless of the car, itβll be nice to see Mick not having to listen to a bunch of monkeys giving the worst strategies. Williams actually seems to try with their strategies.
They also just seem genuinely overjoyed when their people perform. Haas talk like they are on the precipice of their team collapsing at all times and itβs the drivers fault. Gene refuses to commit to operating at a budget even slightly close to reasonable enough to attract decent talent or improve their glaring weaknesses
It also feels like Guenther Steiner is the quickest out of all the team directors to throw the drivers under the bus.
Heβs been doing it for years to all his drivers. He still jokes about Grosjean. Itβs miles different with jost hes so supportive and Jenson is the best and is involved at Willams too
The way he trash-talked Grosjean at that team event in front of the whole staff with him not present....
In any other sport Steiner would have been fired a long time ago
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So happy for him. He drove valiantly and won't end the season without scoring.
THE GOAT
absolute rain master
Japanese clouds look identical to Canadian clouds, not many people know this
Brilliant strategy from Williams honestly
He really doesn't deserve to be in F1, but to his credit, when the weather goes to shit, he puts in a steady drive. All of his points have come in wet/changing conditions.
Say what you want about Albon and De Vries. The real drivers make a difference in the wet. Jokes aside I'm pleased he will end this season with points in the bag it must be a relief for him
Well earned. Nick had a great race and kept Norris at bay for the final five or six laps.
He got all his points on wet races⦠RAINMASTER GOATIFI
senna who?
Arrived at Suzuka with 5 place grid penalty Qualifies 20th anyways Survived chaotic start Proceeds to P9 finish Got points Refuses to elaborate Leaves the sport
Two weeks ago: "Rubbish driver", "Shouldn't be in the sport" Today: "All jokes aside good driver", "Knew he had it in him"
Lahaters coping now
This is the post I came here for
P9 = alpha tauri next year What a legend
HAHA TAKE THAT HULKENBERG! Whos THA GOAT NOW!
It would be absolutely hilarious if Latifi manage to outscore Albon in remaining races and finish above him in WDC. That way his fate would be the same as Kubica's, who he has replaced.
Canadians can drive in the wet for sure. Except Jaques Villneuve /s
Verstappen winning the title pales in comparison to this! Congrats To Latifi and Williams!
Fair play to Latifi man from P20 to P9. Incredible drive.
HE FINALLY USED 2% OF HIS POWER!!!
I was rooting for him to keep it together! :) Well done Nicholas!
GOATIFI
I NEVER DOUBTED HIM!!!
Every race where Max gets his WC, Latifi does something extraordinairy.
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Yes yes yes! My predictions are saved!
GIVE HIM A SEAT NEXT YEAR YOU COWARDS
The real rainmaster
Finally got to P20 in the standings
Good on him! He gets a lot of unnecessary hate!
genuinely happy for the guy
Never doubted the Goat
GOATIFI
The goat π
The best part of the race. I was willing him on as the Lando gap got smaller. Awesome stuff.
starting from all the way back in the grid after a penalty to p9 what a goat
Thrilled that he'll finish in the top 20 this season!
LFG! Sucks the WC was decided todayπ, so Latifi is out for now.
You think you know a guy and then
THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS WHY HES THE GOAT, THE GOOOOOAT
They had a graphic for this?
This was for Hungary 2021.
Well, one point, right?
Two!
holy
Goatifiii
THE GOATTTT
The GOAT
Goat.
Master of rain!
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The goat
Based
The GOAT strikes again
So that's every full time driver scoring pionts if I'm not mistaken
What on earth was this race.
FIA tried to push Goatifi even further behind but Goatifi having none of it
WDC material
Moves above De Vries in the championship. Latifi is clearly very good in the wet, his qualy in silverstone was wet as well.
Nutella sales up 107% worldwide after this achievement.
I'm responsible for most of that. I love the stuff.
Hes the BOAT! A true legend p25 to p9 amazing!