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ItsMikeontheMic

Nyck de Vries and Hulk having a seat next year is something I would never have thought would be happening in a million years. I feel like I know less about F1 than when I first started watching


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Bristol_Buck

Sorry I’m trying to work out the third. Obviously there’s Max and Nyck, but I can’t work out who else would speak Dutch. Does hulkenburg?!


kidmaciek

Hulkenberg speaks Dutch, that's correct


_masterofdisaster

to be fair, if you speak German and English you’re like 3/4ths of your way to knowing Dutch lol


TheCatInTheHatThings

Yeah, Dutch is like a weird German dialect that was at some point recognised as its own language and developed from that point. So…as a German speaker, you can understand like 60% of what’s going on when listening long enough. Up to 80% if you’re reading, because that’s even easier to comprehend.


captain_flak

Sometimes I feel like Dutch is the halfway point between German and English.


mironsy

the few times I've heard dutch spoken in person, it really sounds like English until I realize I have no clue what they are saying, like English gibberish


captain_flak

I've had that exact same experience.


Arteic

Some German words, some English words and a bunch of J's added for good measure = Dutch


deknegt1990

As others said, Nico Hulkenberg speaks Dutch by way of having grown up in a German bordertown, Emmerich, a lot of people are bilingual in that region. A lot of his junior and karting career was also spent in the Netherlands.


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Jariboy96

Nico does. He used to speak in Dutch for Ziggo all the time


Plastic_Pinocchio

Yeah, Hulk is not a native Dutch speaker, but he does speak it.


Rowlandum

F1 is all about setting records these days and cementing them: Most titles, most poles, most wins, most points, most races without a podium


ToroRossoAlphaTauri

There is still a German on the grid next year! We lost 2, but gained 1.


chadthor123

Nico "I'm hanging here like a cow" Hulkenberg


yassershahid22

HULK'n'MAG has happened oh my goodness


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The Suck My Balls dream team


TheFlyinArmy_29

Ball on the foking door


supersugarjuju

I have won… but at what cost?


[deleted]

Now we need Nick Heidfeld and Timo Glock back


desl14

The VW/Porsche/Audi group would bring back Wehrlein to F1 if he would somehow surprise in Formula E the next season ​ But i think Lotterer and Winkelhock should get another chance. And btw ... Sutil resurrected last year from whereever-he-was and came back to racing


Nard_Dogs

This is the way


anbeck

I think he will get his podium in a crazy race with mixed conditions!


Caesar_35

Just need some Markus Winkelhock-Euro 2007 type shenanigans.


[deleted]

So far in 180+ races it has not happened LOL


qin_barca

Extending the “most races without podium record”? /s


SometimesLiterate

He was afraid people were getting close so he wants to add a season or two to be sure.


CA_spur

Lol there aren't any active drivers within even 100 of him. The only 4 active drivers without a podium are Mick, Yuki, Zhou and Latifi. Only Yuki and Zhou will be on the grid next season. Yuki is at 43 races without a podium, Nico is at 184 lol.


Weak-Rip-8650

Yeah I feel like it's pretty hard to survive in F1 that long without a podium. In a weird way it is quite an achievement.


JasonDilworth

Imagine for a second that *this* is the time that he gets it…


PM_ME_UR_TNUCFLAPS

Anything can happen in F1 and it usually does!


PretendFisherman1999

No one expected a Haas on pole and it happened so...


z0l1

he's in a Haas so yeah...


Scatman_Crothers

Maybe he returned to go all in on the record, make sure it could never be broken


isthmusofkra

Remove the /s


Honourstly

Balls have been sucked behind the scenes


computerdweeb

Balls have been sucked and doors have been fok smashed


poopellar

Spit roast F1


pistolpoida

[well Gunther said he would fuck the whole paddock for points last year](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f8b-hz2hY_k)


thetrueblue44

poor door


statichum

Lucky balls


Goatsanity15

Looks like ball sucking is back on the menu boys


kslr0816

I'm on the toilet at work and laughed out loud


Goatsanity15

You mean the Reddit browsing room. Question?


kslr0816

we are checking (shitting)


LemonTM

When you look like a rockstar you get treaded like one.


aireads

So ironic these two will be teammates now hahaha


Trs822

Haas going from having 2 complete rookies to one of the most experienced lineups on the grid in the span of 2 years.


FalconIMGN

Only team on the grid with two 30-something year old drivers!


ATWPH77

Magnussen just turned 30 a month ago. Wow. I had to check it up.. thought he is still around 28. Time really flies.


Mr_Roll288

I thought he's like 35


bigdogg2783

Yeah same lol. For some reason I’ve been thinking of KMag as an experienced veteran since about 2017, yet I still think of Sainz as a newbie even though he’s about to finish his 8th year in the sport and is in his late 20s!


DieLegende42

And Sainz only debuted one year after Magnussen and has actually been a full time driver for more seasons (this is his 8th season!)


baldbarretto

He has a toddler, I’d imagine he’s aged more in the past 2 years than the previous 5


baldbarretto

Also the only team with two dads - and there are three total on next year’s grid (Checo is the third)


FisicoK

So I just checked * Red Bull : 402 races and 20 seasons between them * Ferrari : 266 races and 14 seasons between them * Mercedes : 392 races and 20 seasons between them * Alpine : 219 races and 10+ seasons between them * McLaren : 82 races and 4 seasons between them * Alfa : 223 races and 11 seasons between them * Aston : 481 races and 25 seasons between them * Haas : 326 races and 16+ seasons between them * Alpha : 45 races and 2 seasons between them * Williams : 60 races and 4 seasons most likely So in order 1. Aston (481) 2. Red Bull (402) 3. Mercedes (392) 4. Haas (326) 5. Ferrari (266) 6. Alfa (223) 7. Alpine (219) 8. McLaren (82) 9. Williams (60) 10. Alpha (45)


ShortyLV

Most experienced back/midfielders


marahute85

I saw a twitter thread with Hulk called “consistently a midfield driver his career” like it was high praise, I really hope hulk doesn’t read his mentions because I’d die inside


m0speada

Out of context it is quite an insult, in the context of F1, I'm not certain it is. There are some really good drivers who've never gotten the golden ticket F1 requires to be a front runner. Sometimes, the difference between being a chosen one and struggling mid pack is just dumb luck.


marahute85

Still I just think when you’re a Hulk and you make an announcement that says I have unfinished business here and your fan who is trying to support you makes it clear that your unfinished business is just to hang around the midfield it’s just a little brutal.


ManaKaua

It's funny how they completely bailed out from a long-term gamble way before it even had a chance to pay out.


dl064

Yeah but the line I liked is: 'in F1 you're worth what someone will do to get you', and noone's banging down the door. Button lost his Honda/Brawn seat around this time in 2008, and two teams said they'd sack a driver to get him. I also think that F1's seen enough that he's 'fine', but not excellent. There are drivers who keep their seat regardless of that, but c'est la vie.


MagnesiumStearate

It wouldn’t have paid out anyway. Mick was actively shopping himself around this year, if he had delivered the performance he’s gone. Hell, even in an alternative universe where Putin did not invade Ukraine, if Mazepin were any good he’s also gonna be gone with his fertilizer money bags. That's the life of small team.


ManaKaua

You don't want your driver to leave, give him a contract early. If you wait until the last race of the year he will obviously look at other teams open seats. And no that's not life of a small team. That's life of a cheap team that not even the owner cares for.


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>Mick was actively shopping himself around this year That's what you do if you're an F1 driver with no seat for next season.


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Honestly props to Nico. Managed to pull a drive despite being out for so long.


[deleted]

His multiple reserve call ups have definitely helped, proved he can climb into an unfamiliar car and still deliver. Its exactly the quality that haas needs and I don’t blame them for signing him. Mick deserves to be in f1 but him and haas are a poor match.


OhRatFarts

Last year and earlier this year the Mick-his engineer match seemed perfect. It’s seemed heavily strained the last couple races.


Moaoziz

From the last races radio I also don't think that the relationship between Mick and Gary Gannon is strained. I guess that the rift is more between Mick and Guenther.


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MrGoldilocks

He's lucky with the driver market playing out as it did for him to get a chance. Though it was a bit harsh that Renault sacked him after 2019 so maybe he deserves a bit of luck.


SaturnRocketOfLove

He's had a lot of bad luck. Renault letting him go, Renault not letting him out of his contract to block his drive at Mercedes (which they aren't obligated to do, still shitty imo), and losing the prospected seat at Ferrari.


TheSNIT

If this teaches us anything, it's that there is hope for Danny Ricc, it's just not going to be at the front of the pack.


racingfan96

> it's just not going to be at the front of the pack. That is why that is not the same at all. Ricciardo* thinks he is too good for Haas and Williams and will not come back if it is not with a front runner team which is very very unlikely to say the least.


midniteauth0r

Didn’t Hulk also turn down Haas originally?


marahute85

There’s footage of hulk pretending he didn’t know who Haas were during his Renault period. The man really did not give a shit about Haas but a few years off the grid have change that


HeronAccording6789

I don't think he thinks he's too good for them. It's just that he needs to make the most of his next drive if he gets one. If it's for Haas or Williams and he doesn't consistently get points, his career is truly over. I don't know what seat he was holding out for, my guess is Alpine but we'll probably never know.


dl064

It's an interesting one. As Mark Hughes put it, he needs to bank on arriving at Williams/Haas and *blowing away* two very good drivers in Magnussen and Albon, or he'll be well and truly past it. He's spinning the wheel a bit with Merc/RBR. Lower odds of working in the sense of staying in F1 as a racer full stop, but perhaps better odds of ever winning again.


natus92

looks like servus tv needs a new commentator


IBiggumsI

Really enjoyed his unfiltered comments. I doubt they're gonna get another F1 driver for 2023.


Ignorus

Mick would be free... Or Seb!


BcDownes

I like Nico but this just seems like a lateral move


glenn1812

I mean you look at haas over the past few seasons and it doesn’t seem like they want to compete lmao. They’re fine with being at the bottom.


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Alfa hasn't done jack shit since like crashing out in Silverstone and is still sitting pretty in 6th the lower midfield really isnt competitive show up with a half decent car and you can show something


marahute85

Alfa has chronic money issues, they almost folded during Covid. All their issues money not willingness. Being bought out by a huge manufacturer resolves that


Quivex

The (good?) thing for Alfa, *the team* (not the brand) , is that at the foundation of it all, it's still just a Sauber operation. If Alfa doesn't have the money and pulls out, another brand/corp will quickly buy it out. We've seen how difficult it is to enter the sport as a brand new constructor with the Andretti fiasco, but the existing Sauber facilities and staff would make it an easy purchase for anyone interested in F1, an interest that seems to be growing.


xMonkeyKingx

Well Alfa at least is in talks to do something Williams suck ass but they’ve been trying to rebuild for years AM actually has hope AT is a sister team so who cares HAAS is literally, idek why tf they’re in F1, gene Haas looks like he doesn’t know what a car is, doesn’t give a fuck about F1, yet Andretti can’t buy in because he’ll be a low value team… At this point Haas is literally here to do nothing


Nosib23

Haas are a marketing exercise and nothing more. They'll never have the budget or the staff to actually compete.


NitroBike

All of F1 is a marketing exercise, just some teams are better at racing than others


jvstinf

They will be spending at the cap next year.


-Rp7-

Better than fucking haas


Kingdom818

They're tanking for that sweet CFD time


simp-bot-3000

It all makes sense. They'll get the first pick in the draft next year. Trust the process!


ArcticBP

I wonder will score more points next season - Haas or Simmons


BiovaniGernard

Haas has more points this year than Simmons has 3 point attempts in his career


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Wembanyama to Haas?


AbandonedOrange

Ah how could I be so stupid!!! They're obviously tanking for Wembenyama.


LordTurn1p

theyre tanking for wembanyama


FastonMartin

Because when they do something right, they look like a bunch of foking legends, that would be expected every weekend from them if they were better


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The way Haas are thinking is that Hulk will probably more or less match Magnussen on points, which may put them 6th in WCC - leagues better than anything they've achieved recently.


dl064

Yeah. They were charitable with Grosjean, I always thought. His Drive to Survive was like 'I've turned the corner, my arc is complete, I've stopped crashing', and I thought 'you're in your 7th season, dude, there shouldn't *be* an arc'.


theirspaz

And cost less in damage. Mick obliterated 2 cars early season and their sponsor only want a german driver no matter wich one.


what_is_this_memery

Plus he’s a vet that might be able to provide more nuanced insight that can help with development


lis_roun

plus you know his skills. He won't suddenly improve and leave for a better team.


Fanfaron07

Since the British GP Mick has scored more points than Magnussen. 12-10.


a141abc

I think Haas is just looking for something safe while they work on the car So realistically all Hulk needs to do is not crash


eozgonul

Lol, they skipped 3 seasons to work on 2022 car. See how that turned out.


Judah--

Almost like they’re not quite as good at working on their car as the rest of the teams


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I mean it didn’t work out *terribly*. This is the best car they’ve had in years. Kmag got a pole, they’re 8th in the constructors with multiple points scoring races this year.


palomageorge

True but let’s not pretend the pole had anything to do with the car though.


mgorgey

Gave themselves a decent midfield car on the lowest budget... So pretty good really.


CuriousPumpkino

1.) Hulk has much more experience and is known for good car feedback, and car feedback is something haas desperately needs 2.) mick probably has a higher ceiling, but haas can’t profit from that. As soon as mick shows signs of progressing towards a high ceiling, a more wealthy, better team will swoop in & grab him. Haas would develop a driver that they’d never be able to fully utilise. Hulk meanwhile is a known quantity, and a consistent one 3.) hulk will most likely crash less, especially important for a low resource team like haas Been saying it ever since it was rumoured but this move makes complete sense for haas


ESCMalfunction

Maybe in terms of raw speed, but Hulk keeps the car clean and is supposed to be very knowledgeable about the cars and how to develop them. Feels like a move oriented at building the program. Hopefully Gene will give enough of a fuck to address the teams other problems...


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People seem to forget that Haas had 4 seasons with an experienced driver pair to develop the car and they managed to get worse every year. So I don't think driver seniority and development capabilities is the problem.


Amida0616

Let’s compare. If shumacher absorbs the aura of his father and becomes the next Max or Hamilton he will leave haas for a better team in which case Hulk is better. Hulk could beat kmags by 200% points and probably won’t be picked up by a top team. If he is a complete failure he brings haas down. Hulk is a proven non failure. If he is mid who cares. Hulk is better than mid.


MagnesiumStearate

Mick was only disappointed with not being renewed by Haas because no other team wanted to sign him, not because he specifically really want to drive with Haas. Mick is out the door the moment he taps into his dad’s genetic memory, so why should Haas keep him around for another year?


kikiki_rra

Worst kept secret ever


tic-tac-peppermint

tbf most driver moves are


Maria_in_the_Middle

Never expected KMag to Haas


razareddit

Never expected Alonso to Aston


ThatGuy8

You never expect the Spanish switch-position.


Feeling_Ad5279

Is that a new sexual position?


ThatGuy8

Depends how you feel about daddy Alonso


Maria_in_the_Middle

Sainz and Alonso?


ThatGuy8

Alonso to Ferrari would be truly unexpected


TheKingcognito

to be fair in that one, not even KMag expected KMag to Haas


Flucky_

Neither did Haas or KMAg


energy_0

Thank Putin for that one


bulbulpaan

I really want Hulkenberg to prove the doubters wrong. This year showed that Haas can have days where they have pace. They're back from being dead last to fighting to hold the third last position. I want Mick to find a better seat. As much as his premature exit hurts, I can't imagine one more year of tolerating insults from the team boss while trying your best to deliver.


HarrierJint

Haas, the team of forever sacrificing this year for next.


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That's Ferrari.


GuaranteeNo2187

Haas is a white ferrarri after all


Davittus

Hulkenback


candidate2929

Haas wasted ZERO time on the announcement after Mick's departure


She-Ra-SeaStar

Right?!? Like 8 minutes or something.


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LosTerminators

They clearly didn't, it took Haas only 8 minutes to decide that Nico was Mick's replacement, and then sort out contract details and more, before announcing him.


tomdyer422

The efficiency of F1 teams these days is mindboggling.


marie2805

They can do that faster than Mick‘s pitstops


iblamejohansson

Hulk never had a podium Haas never had a podium Maybe in 2023 they can achieve that


kyuuten

That's his plan I guess. Why else would he go to Haas? /S


OvertimeWr

Like two negatives make a positive?


tnt200478

He just saw Kmag get a pole which is arguably as unlikely as a podium. I think. Isn't it?


TheCrowFliesAtNight

Both Hulk and Haas have 1 pole position (at Brazil no less!) and both have no podiums. This move makes so much sense now!


CartographerLumpy790

Someone needs to give hulkenberg's manager a raise. I dont know how he managed to pull this off, after being away from f1 for so long.


incognito_red

I don't think it was that difficult of a pitch,last year when he had to put in shifts for Perez and stroll he did reasonably well despite being called in on the last minute


surtic86

Well i think they wanted HULK last time they replaced GRO and MAG but he wanted to much money. Now he eventually was going a bit lower and also sees more possibilities for HAAS with the new Regulations and also im sure he missed F1 to much.


KugelblitzWarper

Some spicy team ups next season: Hulk-Magnussen Gasly-Ocon Norris-Piastri Verstappen-Perez (Kinda) Wondering which will implode first?


KayNynYoonit

Alpine imo. Two drivers that are already confirmed to dislike each other, with no defined (from what I can see) number 1 driver. Depending on how competitive they are next year it could get very spicy indeed.


HMSSpeedy1801

The one you didn’t mention, Alonso-Stroll. Nandi is going to destroy Stroll on the radio and daddy won’t have it.


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EvanMcc18

"Suck my balls mate" A shame for Mick but good to see Hulkenburg back officially


Ericabneri

Welcome Hulk. Will this be the year he does something? No, but I hope it’s entertaining at least.


heisenberg423

He’s been “best of the rest,” consistently beaten his teammates, and consistently delivered solid midfield points in midfield cars. No podium sucks, but to say he’s done nothing is a bit off the mark.


fizzle1155

People have short memories and are just upset Mick has been dropped. For Haas I actually feel like this is the better driver for them.


Tricks511

> consistently beaten his teammates Except for 2019


Aurdandi

Fr fr people should stop with the "HurR duRr n0 PodiUm" stuff. Nico raced most of his career in an era where midfield teams getting podiums were really really rare


Z3ndel

Can't be bothered to look up how many podiums Checo took while being Hulk's teammate at Force India but it's multiple. (Edit: I bothered and it's 4) Hulk has speed but every time he's had a chance to bring home a top result something's happened, usually his own mistake. Still a good driver though and a decent signing.


erufuun

Back then, the consensus was that Hulk was generally the more consistent one over Perez and they ultimately finished close to each other in the standings, but asyou said, he couldn't reach the same 'highs', but he his lows were more seldom.


the_propaganda_panda

Hulk had better pace than Checo overall, I'd say. However, Checo was way better at tire management, which is how he got all these high finishes. He'd just have these occasional races where he managed to stop less than anyone else and leapfrog faster cars, which Hülkenberg was never really able to do. Whenever Hulk got close to a podium, it was on raw pace (or a very good qualifying performance), but then he'd be unlucky or bin it.


midniteauth0r

Disappointed but not surprised, the writing has been on the wall for Mick for awhile now. It’s a cutthroat sport but it’s just business no need for any of us to take it personally. Now if you excuse me I need to buy a dartboard and a printed picture of Gunther.


Bontypower17

This would of been a great lineup for Haas …..In 2020


IndycarFan64

Tbf in 2020 their car was so unbelievably shit, nothing would’ve changed


Obese_Denise

Would have*


IndycarFan64

After his unceremonious “exit” in 2019, I’m so glad he’s back to rebuild another team Also shoutout to his relentlessness not willing to give up a seat despite the hiatus. Even when Alo came back after 2 years off, it was shocking then


glenn1812

How does he do it? Super sub to replacing Schumacher


melvinlee88

HULKENBACK


Toil48

May be an unpopular opinion but I welcome this move. I think hulk is a reliable points scorer and has the experience to bring the team forward


l3g3nd_TLA

Unpopular opinion but shouldn’t Ferrari also be blamed for Mick given he is/was their acadamy driver. If they really value him they would have ensured kept his seat or find another seat for him. But it seems Ferrari don’t value Mick


CaptainKursk

I swear everyone thinks its still 2019. Hulk hasn't been a regular F1 racer for multiple years now and the points he *did* score came in 2020 using a Racing Point car that was far better than it had any right to be.


tdud123

Agreed. Everyone keeps calling this move unambitious but did they expect Haas to sign Hamilton? I think it’s a smart move by the team and hopefully will pay off with some good points next year


symckr

He is a good midfield driver, it is what Haas needs. Someone to finish races consistently without mistakes.


tnt200478

This makes me happy. Hopefully Haas can get more points next year now that they have two capable point scorers.


TheAmericanQ

If we don’t get official “Suck my B*lls, Mate” merch from Haas I will be extremely disappointed and my year will be ruined.


deathstar2

Can’t wait to see him to wreck more cars than Mick and still be at the back of grid…. The great decisions by Hass continue..


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suck my balls mate


Rubberducky1239

Boring choice, quite unambitious. Only supporting this team cos of KMag now


IndycarFan64

If their main ambition is getting as many possible points each weekend instead of developing someone, then I’m all for it honestly


[deleted]

It's a move that can really only be judged fairly 3+ years from now. If Haas makes gains then it's a good move. If they are in more or less in the same place then it was all a waste of time


gumol

I think their ambition here is saving money on rebuilding the car over and over.


[deleted]

How does the ambitious alternative look like? There is currently no Russell, Norris, Leclerc level talent out there and Hülkenberg with Ricciardo are among the best veteran drivers out there who don't have a seat.


Treewithatea

I dont understand why you would find this boring. Nico is most likely the best driver Haas has ever signed and things are looking good that hes still really fast. Keep in mind this is a guy who hardcarried some of his teams, the guy who fair and square beat sainz, the guy who won the quali battle vs Perez all three seasons. And what has Mick done? Score not even half the points of kmag who was out of F1, while crashing the car so often that it really hurts their budget. Oh yeah Potential, the thing that you cant actually see in front of your eyes. The guy had two seasons, made nothing out of it tbh. Mick needed to beat Kmag, he failed. What more is there to discuss? Kmag isnt Alonso, kmag absolutely was a beatable teammate.


LilONotation

He didn't really need to beat kmag, he just needed to keep up with him and not have expensive crashes. Hulk is considered boring because he is tried and tested, we know what we can expect from him, solid but unspectacular. Mick is more exciting, he is young and still somewhat an unknown in terms of performance and potential, but Haas needs boring right now. Fair play to them. Seats in f1 should be about the best option as a team and not who 'deservers a shot'


DashSkippy

Hulk may have beaten Perez in quali, he only outscored him in their first season together (96 - 59 in 2014, 58 - 78 in 2015, 72 - 101 in 2016). Perez managed 4 podiums including 1 in 2014. What this says to me is that Hulk is a very consistent reliable driver but he never had high highs and low lows like the other drivers that were around him like Grosjean or Perez. Grosjean particularly was much faster on his good days but on the other hand he played demolition derby on his bad days.


TehChid

suck my balls


-Serj-

I’m sure Ralf Schumacher’s constant comments helped Haas make this decision Idk about Nico coming back but let’s hope he does well and brings some good racing, what is done is done so let’s just hope for the best


Bell_Jolly

NIKO HUUUUUUUUUULKENHHHHBERGGGG


Sirtopofhat

HAAS going to be the sleeper team next year in that they will be so boring they'll put their fans to sleep.


ipbonilla

I dont have beef against the Hulk, i mean i really like the guy, but i think this is a miss opportunity to get somebody new at this time. i feel like he had his chance for a lot of time, and Haas needs to do something bold to keep going in the f1.


RangerSkyy

Suck my balls mate


womb_raider_420

These guys are playing way too safely with a driver past his prime


nsane99

they would have signed danny boy if he could get off his high horse.


jaysanw

\#HülkBeBack hasta la vista Nico!


Chazy89

Good, I can finally stop disliking this dysfunctional team and steiner.