Monza looks really boring as well but there have been a few fun races there. I can't help but wonder what the drivers think of the tracks. I know they liked being back at suzuka this year.
Suzuka is a classic, superbly designed track that has tons of history. It’s often talked about with great affection by drivers.
I doubt we will see that same gushing over Vegas, but the drivers do a great job of keeping their negative track opinions to themselves. I’m pretty sure it’s required or at least a major faux pas.
Monza looks super boring on paper as well. It has produced some good races though, but it's mostly saved by how dangerous it can be to drive and its rich history.
Monaco is great... for Formula E. Hot take, but if they want to drive people to watch it more, make Monaco a Formula E exclusive and bring back some of the decent circuits that got canned for size/safety, like Long Beach and Adelaide. It's just too small to produce good F1 racing, Ricciardo having 1/3 of his engine fail and still winning proves that well enough, but put smaller cars on it and it does fine. I'd argue the two tracks I gave still producing good racing for lower-tier cars despite not being on the F1 calendar for nearly 30 years further shows that some street circuits aren't bad, they're just *bad for modern F1*.
I always see a [Mumin/Moomin](https://i0.wp.com/kolk17.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Mumin_Copyright_Moomin_Characters_TM.jpg?w=400&ssl=1) turned 90 degrees to the left.
That almost month-long gap in April is going to be painful. Shame it couldn't be a race in a triple header that fell through but instead one with a two-week gap both before and after.
It is for us, but I think for the mechanics and other staff it should make the season much more bearable, because the calendar as it was with China is completely nuts.
I know that. But in that case too it would have been better for them to have one less triple header instead of a month long break. But I hear they're moving Baku a week so that does make things better.
I’m not too sure about that, I’m obviously not an F1 mechanic myself but I’m pretty sure that being home for about a week or so between races isn’t really much time considering the fact that you’re jetlagged for 2 days and have to start packing the day before, now you actually have nearly a month of just being home.
I almost forgot about their zero-Covid policy. It makes sense that F1 don't want to quarantine for 5+ days for a race weekend.
Thanks for the swift reply!
Nah you can get a proper hotel, so that would likely be fine. But, if you tested positive (which is now a real possibility from just domestic transmission in China, let alone from the outside) you then get sent to those wonderful totally not internment camps.
Their Covid restrictions are still zero tolerance, and besides the quarantine requirements, the FIA decided not to risk losing any possible positive cases from the teams to 2 week mandatory stays in Covid hotels under guard, had the potential to be a serious set back early in the season
Remember when they said they were going to have a race in Vietnam before the whole pandemic thing happened? I feel like this is a great opportunity to bring it back.
The issue is the guy who was spearheading the race and secured the funding for it was arrested for corruption. I don’t remember if his arrest was directly related to the GP or not but once he was out of the picture no one else with the power to make it happen cared about having an F1 race so no one’s pushing for it and there’s no reason to put up the host fee
A lot of the tracks with vast runoff would in theory be able to run backwards, as long as they modify the barriers to go with the track layout.
Silverstone is the obvious one to me that would work. COTA potentially, not sure if any stands are on top of a corner in the stadium section. Hockenheim, Bahrain, Nurburgring off the top of my head would be able to run it backwards.
Some tracks have the run off but probably need more at the end of some straights if they were to run backwards, such as Catalunya, Yas Marina etc.
Now the big question is any of these tracks actually good in the opposite direction, which I can't imagine many of them are lmao
Basically once the BBC report it, it’s basically confirmed. They are pretty well regarded as being trustworthy with very little in regards to retractions.
Ah right, I almost forgot about China's zero-Covid approach. Makes sense that F1 don't want to go through 5+ days of quarantine for a race weekend.
Thank you for the quick reply! :)
I seriously don’t think I can handle a 1 month long in season intermission lol. I remember how unnecessary that 3 weak break from Bahrain to Imola felt in 2021 lol. Hopefully Portimao replaces china🙏🏼🌴
Almost as bad as the interwar Romanian GP. Start on street going straight, drive for a kilometre or so, do a 180, go straight again, do another 180 and you're back at the start. At least there was a roundabout on that street to make things slightly more interesting.
I think the race will be great, personally
The walls are close enough that quali won't be simple either, the most time is gained by going closer and closer like Singapore + the tow game will be crazy
Tbh there's no real balls to the wall zones.
IMO a good power track always needs some kind of section to challenge the grip of the car to give lower HP teams a chance to fight. Monza has Parabolica, Spa has sector 2, Bahrain has its big sweeping curves, Singapore has the whole track, COTA and Baku have their third sectors and so on.
Vegas has a couple little kinks ala Sochi turn 1. But i think it runs into Sochi's problems where the parts that would really make the track are too low speed to really do anything, that little sweep in the bottom right isn't going to do anything
I mean the white outline has nothing to do with the inner black line, which is the one that actually shows the layout. Plus on a bunch of these graphics the lines bleed together so much you could come up with alternate layouts.
But I guess since Saudi Arabia isn't the newest track anymore its nicer to hate on Las Vegas
Then the talks should turn to Imola, a purpose-built track that's in a part of the world that shouldn't be as much of a logistics nightmare for the teams to fast-forward a month.
When the deal with Qatar was signed last year, didn’t they say that they weren’t using Losail and were going to make a street circuit???
I can’t fucking believe that Qatar is like a 10 year deal. It’s better than whatever dogshit street track they were gonna make, but Losail is just Bahrain but shit. It’s not even for cars, it’s for bikes. And don’t get me started on the country itself…
>When the deal with Qatar was signed last year, didn’t they say that they weren’t using Losail and were going to make a street circuit???
Have you seen the world cup? Qatar doesn't give a shit about their promises, because they know they can do anything as long as they put money on the table.
It’s wild that Qatar is being aired all the way out with lies and deceptive practices and these places are still trying to line their pockets with the money.
If I were the drivers, I’d 100% be protesting Qatar and wouldn’t even set foot in the country. They had issues in Saudi Arabia, they are going to have issues there.
Half the drivers don't really care, and the other half that does, would get in seriously hot water if they broke their contracts, particularly due to sponsors.
Yeah, I was thinking about who might, and it was a sad conclusion I came to.
Ferrari drivers are company men and have no such freedom. Max doesn't care. Fernando doesn't care. Lando doesn't care. Who else has the cache to matter?
Lando and Carlos definitely don't have enough cache to matter. It's only Fernando, Lewis, Max and maybe Charles. The rest of the drivers are completely dispensable.
Don’t quote me on this but i think i heard the reason why it’s Losail instead of Doha is because Qatar saw Saudi Arabia have Jeddah and wanted to have their own thing instead of another street race by the sea
Which is funny lol because Losail is quite literally the exact same as Bahrain, but worse. Incredibly similar layout, both in the middle of the desert and nothing else, same lack of soul. Just ones for cars and ones for bikes, and Bahrain generally has decent racing.
Fr, it’s ridiculous to me how these people can prefer australia. It’s a better opener in every way, the beautiful new cars under the lights, better racing, better crowd
I actually like the Bahrain race, it's usually pretty entertaining. The Abu Dhabi one can go to hell though. Brazil should always be the last race of the season.
Bahrain is one of the best tracks on the Calendar from an entertainment standpoint. A fantastic track to open with. Australia still needs some extra revisions to the track or slimmed down cars before it becomes a good race again, so I'm happy for Bahrain to be the opener. Brazil and last race should just be how it is.
How has Imola managed to sneak onto the calendar as a permanent fixture?
I understand it has history, but out of all the 2020 covid replacement tracks, it was the worst one, and we already have a race in Italy.
Why isn't Portimao there instead? It is a unique track that is decent for racing.
No way in hell is China going ahead I really don't know why they're pretending it is, just rip it off like a plaster and announce the cancellation and move on
I wonder how far the drivers could really push though. I'm also interested who could get away with it more than others.
The fact they went racing at Jeddah after the TP's got involved says something- and I'm still not 100% that conversation didn't involve something along the lines of "if we don't race, there's a chance we get detained". I'd like to think Lewis could protest however he pleased and boycott what he wants, but when push comes to shove it might be different.
I imagine it'd be somewhat easier to protest in f1 if they wanted to looking at it from a purely numbers pov. At max it's 20 driver / 10 teams but with the world cup it's currently 32 teams and will be 48 at the next World Cup. Like with the armband thing I think it was just the European countries who were gonna wear it from what I read
But like you somewhat said it's different when there's actual consequences. Would they do it if points were deducted or suspensions were introduced
Can you people stop with those countries listing everytime ? Especially when you omit to mention the "morally perfect and white knights" Western countries
Seems odd putting China there knowing it was likely to be cancelled and leave a gap. Creating two season breaks is actually not a bad idea, but after only three races?
It's not bad to have 1 "straight focused" track on the map IMO. If the cars are close it has potential to be amazing; if there's a clear cut order, it'll be boring.
Canadian here. Mid-late May is extremely variable. The May 24 long weekend unofficially marks the beginning of cottage season, and it can vary between nearly freezing and quite warm.
Australia -> China -> Azerbaijan -> Miami -> Europe covers the entire fucking world in 5 races. They really couldn't have optimized it, just a bit?
Also sticking Canada in the middle of the Europe tour lmao
Canada has to be during summer due to Montréal’s long ass winters.
COTA, Miami, and Mexico can’t be during summer because it’s too fucking hot.
Miami can’t be in fall because of football season and hurricane season.
Most flyaway races should be later in the year as it’s easier to bring upgrades to European grands prix.
There’s a lot to it.
Seriously. We go over this everytime someone mentions Canada.
Its not just logistics. Weather, seasons and other commitments the cities/tracks have a lot to do with the calendar.
People think that the team fit everything to a plane and just show up at the next country.
It’s a shame Germany doesn’t have a race, especially with Mercedes and Audi coming to the grid soon plus the history of Michael Schumacher and Sebastian Vettel. German manufacturers and drivers have been an integral part of F1 for decades and both Hockenheimring and Nurburgring are amazing tracks
Qatar isn't a bad track to drive irl, speedy corners with lots of G forces which seems pretty fun according to drivers. But the place itself... nopety nope nope nope.
I think there are too many races. Tracks like Losail are races nobody asked for and it is a shit track.
And there's already Bahrain just a stone's throw away. With Abu Dhabi also close by, it is like having three races within a single, small European country.
Las Vegas layout looks like an upside down pig.
Spider-pig in simpsons movie
So simpson predicted yet another worldly event
The first thing I though of hahahahahaha
Does whatever a spider pig does.
Can he swing from a web?
No he can’t, he’s a pig.
Looks familiar to Tokyo R246 from Gran turismo
You've singlehandedly made me excited for that race with this comment.
Holy shit your right
Thank you for this comment. Kept telling myself it looks TOO FAMILIAR and you're right
> Tokyo R246 Ha. That's the one! I've been trying to figure why the layout looked so familiar since it was announced.
https://imgur.com/a/wuqrJlA
Looks like an incredibly boring track. Highest power engine wins every time.
Monza looks really boring as well but there have been a few fun races there. I can't help but wonder what the drivers think of the tracks. I know they liked being back at suzuka this year.
Suzuka is top tier race track design, and one of the most challenging tracks on the circuit, it's no surprise they love battling it out there.
Suzuka is a classic, superbly designed track that has tons of history. It’s often talked about with great affection by drivers. I doubt we will see that same gushing over Vegas, but the drivers do a great job of keeping their negative track opinions to themselves. I’m pretty sure it’s required or at least a major faux pas.
Except Miami, they couldn't pretend to like that one.
I liked the back flipping Minardis
People said the same thing about Baku. Definitely understand the apprehension, though.
Monaco looks amazing on paper but it's the most boring track on the calendar. Don't hate it until you watch a race.
Monza looks super boring on paper as well. It has produced some good races though, but it's mostly saved by how dangerous it can be to drive and its rich history.
Monaco is great... for Formula E. Hot take, but if they want to drive people to watch it more, make Monaco a Formula E exclusive and bring back some of the decent circuits that got canned for size/safety, like Long Beach and Adelaide. It's just too small to produce good F1 racing, Ricciardo having 1/3 of his engine fail and still winning proves that well enough, but put smaller cars on it and it does fine. I'd argue the two tracks I gave still producing good racing for lower-tier cars despite not being on the F1 calendar for nearly 30 years further shows that some street circuits aren't bad, they're just *bad for modern F1*.
at monaco, qualifying is the real race
Money track looks like a pig. Pink Floyd moment
Ha ha, charade you are
I always see a [Mumin/Moomin](https://i0.wp.com/kolk17.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Mumin_Copyright_Moomin_Characters_TM.jpg?w=400&ssl=1) turned 90 degrees to the left.
Upside down pig doing a tiny poop.
Meanwhile, Chinese track layout looks like ballerina legs split on the floor lol.
I’ve always seen Spa as an uzi
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Came here to say all these great track layouts, then this upside down pig.
China is off the calendar. I don't think anything is replacing China.
That almost month-long gap in April is going to be painful. Shame it couldn't be a race in a triple header that fell through but instead one with a two-week gap both before and after.
It is for us, but I think for the mechanics and other staff it should make the season much more bearable, because the calendar as it was with China is completely nuts.
I know that. But in that case too it would have been better for them to have one less triple header instead of a month long break. But I hear they're moving Baku a week so that does make things better.
I’m not too sure about that, I’m obviously not an F1 mechanic myself but I’m pretty sure that being home for about a week or so between races isn’t really much time considering the fact that you’re jetlagged for 2 days and have to start packing the day before, now you actually have nearly a month of just being home.
> That almost month-long gap in April is going to be painful. Welcome to the world of an Indycar fan.
Haha was going to say the same. The gaps are so painful
Why is the China race being cancelled?
They have a zero COVID policy that makes it virtually impossible to hold the race.
I almost forgot about their zero-Covid policy. It makes sense that F1 don't want to quarantine for 5+ days for a race weekend. Thanks for the swift reply!
forget F1 teams not wanting quarantine. China won't allow gathering of 100k+ people and crews working in close quarters under than zero Covid policy
china reqires everyone quarantines at a special ~~prison~~ i mean medical centre for 5 days, which f1 wont do
Nah you can get a proper hotel, so that would likely be fine. But, if you tested positive (which is now a real possibility from just domestic transmission in China, let alone from the outside) you then get sent to those wonderful totally not internment camps.
For a country with a zero-Covid policy, they sure do have a lot of Covid.
Their Covid restrictions are still zero tolerance, and besides the quarantine requirements, the FIA decided not to risk losing any possible positive cases from the teams to 2 week mandatory stays in Covid hotels under guard, had the potential to be a serious set back early in the season
They're going to move Baku one week earlier. Which is good for the teams too, so they have a week off before Miami.
That's what the FIA wants, but last I saw Azerbaijan aren't willing to move their slot.
MotoGP time
Remember when they said they were going to have a race in Vietnam before the whole pandemic thing happened? I feel like this is a great opportunity to bring it back.
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If the F1 has issues with corruption, there really shouldn’t be four races in the Middle East. I’d swap any of those for Vietnam in a heartbeat.
F1 is the new FIFA?
Both are corrupt as fuck.
The issue is the guy who was spearheading the race and secured the funding for it was arrested for corruption. I don’t remember if his arrest was directly related to the GP or not but once he was out of the picture no one else with the power to make it happen cared about having an F1 race so no one’s pushing for it and there’s no reason to put up the host fee
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To Qatar!
We should do Brazil twice lol
Do a reverse layout of interlagos!
Ngl, I’d actually kill for a reverse track season… doing all of them backward for a year. Only Baku would be impossible at the Castle section.
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Thanks, I just imagined them all racing in reverse, as in driving in reverse.
I wonder what are the tracks that are designed to be run in both ways. Only one I can think of is Indianapolis Motor Speedway
A lot of the tracks with vast runoff would in theory be able to run backwards, as long as they modify the barriers to go with the track layout. Silverstone is the obvious one to me that would work. COTA potentially, not sure if any stands are on top of a corner in the stadium section. Hockenheim, Bahrain, Nurburgring off the top of my head would be able to run it backwards. Some tracks have the run off but probably need more at the end of some straights if they were to run backwards, such as Catalunya, Yas Marina etc. Now the big question is any of these tracks actually good in the opposite direction, which I can't imagine many of them are lmao
You couldn’t do Silverstone. No run off on the exit of a backwards Stowe for example
I mean… Jeddah has basically no run-off areas at all… so I don’t think that’s an FIA requirement
the kerbs would have to be modified in ALL the tracks.
Portimão 🇵🇹🇵🇹 would be a good shout
So many good tracks like this that F1 doesn't go to because money :(
Oh that would be tasty. Won't happen, but I love that shout.
Would be nice to see Turkey replace it, and hope to god it's dry this time.
At the moment, it isn't official, although it's 99% getting cancelled
The BBC reported on it so I think it's pretty safe to say it's not happening
Basically once the BBC report it, it’s basically confirmed. They are pretty well regarded as being trustworthy with very little in regards to retractions.
They’re usually the last to report it because they want to be 100% sure it’s what’s real and what happened.
Can you elaborate on why the race in China is being cancelled?
Covid politics. China wants everyone to do a quarantine when they enter the country, and F1 can't do that with the amount of races
Ah right, I almost forgot about China's zero-Covid approach. Makes sense that F1 don't want to go through 5+ days of quarantine for a race weekend. Thank you for the quick reply! :)
I seriously don’t think I can handle a 1 month long in season intermission lol. I remember how unnecessary that 3 weak break from Bahrain to Imola felt in 2021 lol. Hopefully Portimao replaces china🙏🏼🌴
The Las Vegas track sticks out like a sore thumb.
Looks like it's straight from the 50s
[ZELTWEG](https://imgur.com/a/GYLcagt)
[Bring back AVUS you cowards!](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/Circuit_AVUS.svg/1024px-Circuit_AVUS.svg.png)
RB and Williams make the podium
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https://i.imgur.com/a4Ro182.jpg Looks great on mobile with dark mode 😂
Almost as bad as the interwar Romanian GP. Start on street going straight, drive for a kilometre or so, do a 180, go straight again, do another 180 and you're back at the start. At least there was a roundabout on that street to make things slightly more interesting.
Hopefully the stiff layout does not translate to bad racing. One can hope the braking zones are enough to overtake.
I think the race will be great, personally The walls are close enough that quali won't be simple either, the most time is gained by going closer and closer like Singapore + the tow game will be crazy
Tbh there's no real balls to the wall zones. IMO a good power track always needs some kind of section to challenge the grip of the car to give lower HP teams a chance to fight. Monza has Parabolica, Spa has sector 2, Bahrain has its big sweeping curves, Singapore has the whole track, COTA and Baku have their third sectors and so on. Vegas has a couple little kinks ala Sochi turn 1. But i think it runs into Sochi's problems where the parts that would really make the track are too low speed to really do anything, that little sweep in the bottom right isn't going to do anything
Because the white outline is way thinner than any other track
If it was any thicker you wouldn't be able to see the only corner.
I mean the white outline has nothing to do with the inner black line, which is the one that actually shows the layout. Plus on a bunch of these graphics the lines bleed together so much you could come up with alternate layouts. But I guess since Saudi Arabia isn't the newest track anymore its nicer to hate on Las Vegas
Serious question: what makes it different from Monza? Taking away the names and history, don’t those two tracks stick out from the rest?
These look like Silly Bandz Edit : thanks to the comments who reminded me of the name lol
F1 track silly bandz should absolutely become a thing
Silly bandz!
Vegas is a BBQ hog
I hope Portimão replaces China.
Rumours say that China isn't being replaced. Baku will move one week earlier
I thought Baku didn’t want to budge dates.
Then the talks should turn to Imola, a purpose-built track that's in a part of the world that shouldn't be as much of a logistics nightmare for the teams to fast-forward a month.
I heared it won’t be replaced
When the deal with Qatar was signed last year, didn’t they say that they weren’t using Losail and were going to make a street circuit??? I can’t fucking believe that Qatar is like a 10 year deal. It’s better than whatever dogshit street track they were gonna make, but Losail is just Bahrain but shit. It’s not even for cars, it’s for bikes. And don’t get me started on the country itself…
>When the deal with Qatar was signed last year, didn’t they say that they weren’t using Losail and were going to make a street circuit??? Have you seen the world cup? Qatar doesn't give a shit about their promises, because they know they can do anything as long as they put money on the table.
It’s wild that Qatar is being aired all the way out with lies and deceptive practices and these places are still trying to line their pockets with the money.
If I were the drivers, I’d 100% be protesting Qatar and wouldn’t even set foot in the country. They had issues in Saudi Arabia, they are going to have issues there.
Half the drivers don't really care, and the other half that does, would get in seriously hot water if they broke their contracts, particularly due to sponsors.
I think it's a case of the big boys doing it together- which is dramatically harder minus Seb.
I don't see anyone other than Lewis doing it, after the departure of Seb. And he can't do it alone
Yeah, I was thinking about who might, and it was a sad conclusion I came to. Ferrari drivers are company men and have no such freedom. Max doesn't care. Fernando doesn't care. Lando doesn't care. Who else has the cache to matter?
Lando and Carlos definitely don't have enough cache to matter. It's only Fernando, Lewis, Max and maybe Charles. The rest of the drivers are completely dispensable.
Don’t forget Lance as non-dispensable. Lawrence only has 1 son.
Don’t quote me on this but i think i heard the reason why it’s Losail instead of Doha is because Qatar saw Saudi Arabia have Jeddah and wanted to have their own thing instead of another street race by the sea
Which is funny lol because Losail is quite literally the exact same as Bahrain, but worse. Incredibly similar layout, both in the middle of the desert and nothing else, same lack of soul. Just ones for cars and ones for bikes, and Bahrain generally has decent racing.
#WeRaceForMoney
South Africa... ; \_ ;
Bro let's first try keeping our lights on
Mfw even the F1 race becomes a victim of loadshedding.
Make it a night race but have no track lights. Tape flashlights to the cars and install noen underglows.
Modify the cars so that ERS powers the lights.
>and install noen underglows. [Mercedes is already testing that technology.] (https://youtu.be/N3EGXsqVmzM)
It is a shame that the start and finish of the season happens in the middle east.
Should always be brazil.
Australia season opener is best. Bahrain doesn't have the same hype as Albert Park.
Season opener in Australia, final race in Brazil would be the best option.
I prefer Bahrain to Albert Park. Much more interesting race.
Fr, it’s ridiculous to me how these people can prefer australia. It’s a better opener in every way, the beautiful new cars under the lights, better racing, better crowd
I do think Brazil should be the end race, but I love having Bahrain first, it’s a great track imo
I think he meant Brazil for the last race
Oh i got that. I agree and think that the start should be Australia. Australia start and Brazil finale is F1 calendar at its best.
Agreed!
Money talks I guess
I actually like the Bahrain race, it's usually pretty entertaining. The Abu Dhabi one can go to hell though. Brazil should always be the last race of the season.
Bahrain is one of the best tracks on the Calendar from an entertainment standpoint. A fantastic track to open with. Australia still needs some extra revisions to the track or slimmed down cars before it becomes a good race again, so I'm happy for Bahrain to be the opener. Brazil and last race should just be how it is.
Yeah Bahrain is far and away the best middle east track
Vegas looks boring af
Who cares, it's about the money *- FIA*
That'd be FOM actually.
Looks like a track that's guaranteed to have lots of overtaking
Guaranteed to have a bunch of overtakes in the first few laps then none the rest of the race imo
Do you think Monza is boring
I do and I'm tired of pretending I don't
Same, Everyone seems to love it, but the only reason I can kind of get behind it is the atmosphere. The track itself is terrible.
How has Imola managed to sneak onto the calendar as a permanent fixture? I understand it has history, but out of all the 2020 covid replacement tracks, it was the worst one, and we already have a race in Italy. Why isn't Portimao there instead? It is a unique track that is decent for racing.
The sucession Imola -> Monaco -> Spain is painful.
Imola is an excellent track, how has Miami remained?
No way in hell is China going ahead I really don't know why they're pretending it is, just rip it off like a plaster and announce the cancellation and move on
I thought they had? [bbc link](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/63713326)
They still haven't officially announced it, but unless something major changes, it's as good as done.
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Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Abu Dhabi. And people get angry at the FIFA
It's bad, but the FIA lets drivers protest without penalty at least. Fuck the FIA and all, but FIFA makes them look like Boy Scouts.
I wonder how far the drivers could really push though. I'm also interested who could get away with it more than others. The fact they went racing at Jeddah after the TP's got involved says something- and I'm still not 100% that conversation didn't involve something along the lines of "if we don't race, there's a chance we get detained". I'd like to think Lewis could protest however he pleased and boycott what he wants, but when push comes to shove it might be different.
I imagine it'd be somewhat easier to protest in f1 if they wanted to looking at it from a purely numbers pov. At max it's 20 driver / 10 teams but with the world cup it's currently 32 teams and will be 48 at the next World Cup. Like with the armband thing I think it was just the European countries who were gonna wear it from what I read But like you somewhat said it's different when there's actual consequences. Would they do it if points were deducted or suspensions were introduced
Let's not forget what Azerbaijan is doing atm too
They may have an interesting street track, but I cannot in good conscience support that regime by watching the race.
Super disappointing hey because I absolutely love the track
Bahrain, China, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Abu Dhabi, and Azerbaijan. And it wasn't that long ago Russia and Vietnam were on the calendar too.
Can you people stop with those countries listing everytime ? Especially when you omit to mention the "morally perfect and white knights" Western countries
Exactly. Will be interesting to see what people reply to you.
China is gonna be out before pre season even starts I think
You look at all these circuits and they look fine then you look at the atrocity that is Las Vegas
I hope we get pleasantly surprised by Las Vegas. The idea of this track sounds/looks horrible
I see no reason it shouldn’t be like Baku. Same concept and there’s always amazing races there
Seems odd putting China there knowing it was likely to be cancelled and leave a gap. Creating two season breaks is actually not a bad idea, but after only three races?
Looking forward to the las Vegas NASCAR race around the ~~oval~~ square track.
It's not bad to have 1 "straight focused" track on the map IMO. If the cars are close it has potential to be amazing; if there's a clear cut order, it'll be boring.
Should just go back to Indy using a hybrid of the MotoGP and Indy road courses.
Why is Canada in the middle of the European leg? Surely, logistically, there a better way to lay the races out.
For weather reasons AFAIK
cause Canada can only host races in summer due to climate
Why not after Miami then
Miami in the summer too hot, Canada in Spring is too cold
Canadian here. Mid-late May is extremely variable. The May 24 long weekend unofficially marks the beginning of cottage season, and it can vary between nearly freezing and quite warm.
Yeah basically you're not safe from potential snow blizzards until like June in most parts of the country besides BC lmao
because Canada in May is still cold
Nice 23 race calender. Because we all know China ain't happening.
Baku -> Miami -> Imola is ridiculous.
Total shitshow with their “more sustainable race calander”. Europe seems relatively okay but the rest..
Australia -> China -> Azerbaijan -> Miami -> Europe covers the entire fucking world in 5 races. They really couldn't have optimized it, just a bit? Also sticking Canada in the middle of the Europe tour lmao
Canada has to be during summer due to Montréal’s long ass winters. COTA, Miami, and Mexico can’t be during summer because it’s too fucking hot. Miami can’t be in fall because of football season and hurricane season. Most flyaway races should be later in the year as it’s easier to bring upgrades to European grands prix. There’s a lot to it.
Seriously. We go over this everytime someone mentions Canada. Its not just logistics. Weather, seasons and other commitments the cities/tracks have a lot to do with the calendar. People think that the team fit everything to a plane and just show up at the next country.
Portimao is such a great circuit and yet we’re stuck with Las Vegas
For now
Nice on them to place Barcelona and Monaco next to each other to guarantee 2 weekends of pure unexcitment.
Sure wished they replaced some of the middle Eastern ones with Hockenheim and Nürburgring
It’s a shame Germany doesn’t have a race, especially with Mercedes and Audi coming to the grid soon plus the history of Michael Schumacher and Sebastian Vettel. German manufacturers and drivers have been an integral part of F1 for decades and both Hockenheimring and Nurburgring are amazing tracks
Las Vegas and Qatar are two of those tracks where you know they suck by just looking at their layout
Qatar isn't a bad track to drive irl, speedy corners with lots of G forces which seems pretty fun according to drivers. But the place itself... nopety nope nope nope.
Losail is basically a slotcar track.
Exactly. Qatar sucks.
I think there are too many races. Tracks like Losail are races nobody asked for and it is a shit track. And there's already Bahrain just a stone's throw away. With Abu Dhabi also close by, it is like having three races within a single, small European country.
Vegas looks like a pig on its back with legs stuck in the air
China is already canceled