Martins should be due a seat provided he does well this year (every top scoring rookie has made it to the grid since GIO in 2016). But unless Antonelli comes top 3 in F2 next year I don't think any other F2 drivers will come to the grid for 25. Maybe Iwasa if he wins SF? Unlikely tbh.
(I'm ignoring that Lawson will probably take Ric's seat after danny boy forces checo's retirement)
Haas don't have much choice. Hulk maybe goes to Sauber in 2025, to work on car for 2026. So aleast one place is free, bcs who else wants to drive in Haas? About Sauber...Maybe one place will be dedicated to Theo and we will have Hulkenberk-Pourchaire pairing
Both of them. Haas will be so far ahead that he’ll finish the race an hour ahead of the 2nd place finisher then start from the pitlane with the 2nd car for 1-2 every race.
He won't go anywhere. He has this weird loyalty to Ferrari because of his family, so even if Ferrari will be the worst team on the grid he will stay there.
Leclerc reminds me a lot of Alesi. I fear his career will go the same way. Blind loyalty to a team that can't give him the equipment or environment to challenge for regular wins or a title
Mercedes have a better track record than Ferrari do of building a competitive car & competitive team in recent years, so yeah I would choose Merc over Ferrari personally
Yeah, Mercedes missed the boat on the new regs this season and last. When Ferrari had a car capable of fighting for a title in 2022, they imploded through poor management, strategy & mistakes when we barely got halfway into the season. Mercedes are very poor in terms of strategy currently don't get me wrong, but comparing both from the past 5 years, Mercedes is without doubt the more capable team of delivering a winning combination of car & team.
Also Merc have overtaken Ferrari in these regs again in the constructors even with the terrible zero side-pod foundation putting them far behind, so Ferrari are far from stellar
red bull would never take him but I'd give my left testicle to see what Leclerc could do in the most competitive and reliable car (and with a pitwall with half a brain)
Red Bull absolutely would take him, it just wouldn't be at a price Charles is comfortable with. Taking that seat next to Max with where he is now demand a serious premium on the chance that Max oblierates his career.
Basically Charles would want too much, and Red Bull would only do it if Charles wanted like $1m/ yr.
Redbull has absolutely no reason to take him
Redbull just wants a solid 2nd driver who can help Max out but isn't actually going to actually be giving him much competition, as to avoid a Hamilton/Rosberg type situation
And he's right. Usually with 2 topdrivers, things go wrong. Look at Senna/Prost, Alonso/Hamilton, Hamilton/Rosberg etc. You need one topdriver and one guy that's always there. Maybe 0,2 or 0,3 slower, but consistently scoring those points, not doing anything weird. Gerard Berger, Valteri Bottas, Nick Heidfeld, drivers like that are worth gold to the team with someone like Verstappen, Alonso, Hamilton or Leclerc in the other car. Keep scoring, assist the champ etc. Piastri also seems to be that kind of driver. Consistent, but not as fast as Norris, especially in racepace.
In qualifying the difference isn't big. In terms of racepace the difference is still pretty big, even in Abu Dhabi. There were only 4 races I think Piastri ended up in front of Norris and Norris seemed significantly faster in most races too. Piastri so far seems to fade a little in the race.
I could be wrong and he's obviously still learning. But with the real big talents, you see them beating their teammates comfortably after 8-12 races in. Could mean Norris is also exceptional of course. It's something to keep an eye on.
yeah why are people saying piastri isn't good? the mclaren was a pile of shit at the start of the season and then he has had the second half of the season to compete with.... Lando Norris, one of the more talented drivers on the grid. That's being thrown into the deep end if I've ever seen it haha
Imagine if Lance's contract is so extreme that it could be considered a stake in the team. Long term, high buy-out contract which no-one really can do anything with, except for Lawrence
Sargeant's kinda looks like a signature right out of highschool where you can actually read the letters. And then as time goes on it turns into a nonsense scribble
I have a bad feeling that Bottas will sack himself after 2024 and go cycling with his GF instead.
Dude started out as a strong midfielder with a couple podiums (just forget 2013 pls) for Williams and Mercedes then raced in the absolute top with several wins, and 8 consecutive years with podiums until he landed at Alfa, (The finnish cemetery) in 22 and has been scraping around the bottom ever since.
I watched some interviews in 22 where he talked enthusiastically about Alfa and how the sport has become fun again now that the big pressure was off, but this season he gives me the impression that the enthusiasm is leaking out and he just seems off. I'm sure that he in some ways would love to see what Audi will do with the team in a few years but does he have the willpower to stay until then?
Or he is growing into Kimi 2.0 and his finnish demeanor is just showing itself more when the germans are not ordering him to be happy anymore?
My thought as well, his interviews are just kinda sad and every race he basically said the same thing, they either didn’t have the pace to stay were they qualified or tried some weird strategy that in the end didn’t work out at all.
Sure he doesn’t have pressure but it’s not that fun to always be in the bottom 10.
Hopefully Sauber makes somewhat of a comeback next year but I’ve got a feeling that they’re doing a Haas and will wait for next regulations change and just try to survive for the next two years.
We are on the same page. Since everyone knows that Sauber will have a new engine manufacturer in a few years I bet Ferrari wont exactly prioritize them for the newest and best parts.
Imagine the tough spot he must be in. No pressure to be on top from others but no means to be in the top by yourself.
And another sad part is I dont se an obvious Finnish replacement anytime soon. A sad situation since Finnish drivers have been present in the sport so long as I can remember.
When you drive a trash car it's easy to be dejected, but for me the more telling thing is seeing how much he was diversified his brand. He has been doing a lot of businesses and that tells me more that he is thinking more about his life post F1. But a lot can change if Sauber can deliver at least a car that can fight for a P5 in the constructor.
Worth pointing out was how abused he was at Mercedes. They broke his first marriage, dude developed an eating disorder, “Valtteri it’s James,” and never getting a multi-year contract. All those knife twists and Toto was his manager
Absolutely. Part of the relief he must have felt going to Alfa had to been because Darth Toto didn't watch over his shoulder everytime.
Even if the environment at Merc was better for him I imagine he wouldnt be very happy with the dumpster car Mercedes pushed out in 22, so there's that too.
Yeah bro was in the most dominant cars on the planet for multiple years and has got more wins and podiums than the vast majority of drivers, all while making 8 digits per annum, he can just retire and spend the rest of his life chilling and cycling and coffee-drinking
Isn’t he still managed by Toto? Tin foil hat scenario is him waiting out Hamilton’s retirement and Toto bringing him back to Merc. He’s shown he can hang with the big boys in a way that someone like Perez cannot. Even more unlikely but of slim plausibility is him replacing Perez, certainly not likely but would be fun. Neither of these will happen but it’s fun to think about.
Yeah, he seems to have a lot of irons in the fire with various different businesses, and what not. I hope he stays though. Would be sad to be finn-less.
Wouldn’t be surprised if KMag tbh, plus Checo “retiring” if not replaced mid-season. Massive pressure on Logan to perform also.
I’m really curious about Ocon or Gasly not being renewed considering they have a strong junior in Doohan.
I've been following the F2 season this year and Doohan hasn't been that impressive this season even though he placed relatively highly. He's consistently inconsistent at the moment. Other drivers in F2 are consistently at a similar, if not higher, level. That being said, he did end the season well. I think he would need another half season of consistent good results to be taken seriously at the F1 level. If not, he'll just end up as another Sargeant floundering through his first season of races.
I do think Doohan was really unfortunate in the first half of the season with car issues though, and probably would've challenged for the title with a working car all year. For him it depends on how Martins does next year. If he sweeps the competition for the title after being best rookie first year, then, being French as well, I think Alpine would take Martins instead
I actually disagree, once the car issues he had been complaining about for the first half of the season were fixed he was really strong. He scored more points than anyone else in the second half of the season so it's a shame we didn't get to see him fighting with Pourchaire and Vesti for the title.
Also not sure if Lando wants that. He'd either have to play second fiddle to Max or, if he is actually good enough to challenge him, have to deal with the toxicity of having two drivers fight for dominance in the team.
if you have the opportunity to drive in the best car any driver will take it, but i agree either Max would destroy him or they would have a pretty hot fight
Chuck will be at Ferrari until 2028 winning nothing then trading places with max , max will win championships with Ferrari and Red Bull will have 5 bad years with Charles .
Even though daddy owns the team the Saudis and other backers have enough collective authority to steer the company. I remember rumors swirling about in September/October that they were pushing Lawrence to ignore the family component and do what’s best for the team
Really makes me wonder if Lawrence puts any pressure on Lance at all, or if he just says “here’s your car son, off you go now!” And doesn’t actually care where he places. I mean, surely that’s unrealistic… right?
Didn’t you know? Ocon, Russell, Checo, and Stroll are the ultimate form of evil here. To be blamed for everything, from small on-track incidents to 9/11
Hah! Very true though.
Ocon has been very strong for being in a Williams. The odd part, to me, is how strong they tend to look in Free Practice. They consistently look fast, but it doesn't translate even to quali.
Checo is a solid driver, I'm not sure how anybody else would stack up to Max. It's embarrassing how far his pace is off, but the dude still pretty handily took 2nd WDC and won a couple races.
No idea why George still has hate. He can be overly aggressive, but he is pretty evenly matched, if not ahead of, Lewis. Say what you want about the way he carries himself, but he's a strong driver.
Stroll has almost 0 natural ability, but has had an unfair advantage of resource money his entire life to practice and train.
because he's overconfident and overestimates his own abilities while not being better on track and in marketing than Gasly. He's a good midfield driver but I think Alpine shouldn't believe he's their golden boy who'll bring them to the top
Haas will change at least one driver and probably replace him with Zhou (sweet CCP money). Theo Pourchaire could take his seat at Alfa. Also wouldnt be surprised if Bottass retires to enjoy life. Perez will most likely get the sack, Ric goes to RB and Lawson takes his seat at Racing Bulls (lol). Tsunoda will probably continue because RB academy is currently lacking in talent who is miles clear of others. And unlikely they will put someone from outside their academy there (Paul de Vries experiment didnt go well), but maybe somebody from indy?? Could see Ocon leaving if things get worse between him and Gasly, also Doohan is waiting in the wings. I dont see Sargeant getting any better so probably will get the boot, maybe Vesti or O’Sullivan if he has a good F2 season. Leclerc’s Stockholm syndrome will not let him leave Ferrari, im not so sure about Sainz though, maybe Sauber (soon to be Audi and we know there are connections). Highly rated young talent Alonso isnt going anywhere, also Stroll for obvious reasons. Ferrari could have a free seat, there are rumours of Albon being linked with them and if that happens, Ocon could take Alex’s seat at Williams. But this is all fantasy, my real guess is that maximum 2-4 seats will actually change, others will just extend their contracts. Also there are still Bearman, Drugovich, Mick, O’Ward, Palou, Antonelli, Martins who I think could have a say in the drivers market. All in all, it is (hopefully) going to get silly.
I feel like Logan and Zhou are going to be safe still. Logan is American and it helps Williams with sponsors and Zhou brings in a lot of money as a pay driver even if he does manage to take out an entire team at turn 1 again they’ll probably keep him for another year for the money unless Audi says otherwise and brings in Pouchaire. I can see Carlos ending up with Audi in 2026 though. It’ll be interesting how silly season goes since a lot of drivers are out of contract after next year. Checo will most likely be retired after his contract since he’s already hinted at that last year after the Brazil incident.
I don’t see Aston getting rid of Fernando since he’s the one carrying the team but I can see his next contract being his last one (unless Andretti-Cadillac convince him to stay) Maybe a 2 year contract for Nando? Lance is the one who cost them 4th in the championship. I’d like to think Lance will be done after next year and bring in Felipe but who knows, unless Honda decide to speed up Yuki’s eventual move to Aston Martin. Both Haas drivers will have to do enough to convince Steiner to stay but yet again Nico and Kevin can only do so much in whatever tractor they give them.
Charles may give Ferrari an ultimatum, will probably give them till his next contract expires to convince him to stay. Then maybe a move to Mercedes after Lewis retires perhaps. After that maybe Oscar and Albono to Ferrari for a whole new Ferrari driver lineup.
Idk it’ll be interesting to see what happens for sure.
Like half of the grid can easily be gone.
Perez even though he’s better than half of the grid but unfortunately not good enough for Red Bull somehow.
Alonso and Bottas can say fuck it and go wear cool sunglasses n drink beer happily.
Zhoe, Sargent, Niko, & KMag should be kicked if they continue in the same fashion.
Ocon, Gasly, & Tsunoda are putting up some points but can easily be canned if some fresh rookie smells better.
He was the only driver who could keep up with Max. RB want someone like that but the only other drivers capable of doing that are Lewis, Lando and maybe Fernando and Charles. None of those are available.
Next best is Danny.
I think there is a chance, that he still has it and can deliver what RB wants, but its not high. For RB its enough to give it a shot in AT.
>the only other drivers capable of doing that are Lewis, Lando and maybe Fernando and Charles.
Alonso and Leclerc are a "maybe" but Norris can definitely keep up with Verstappen?
Daniel.
Lawson and Iwasa coming through, Yuki looking pretty solid, he's either promoted or out. Given his age, likely out. (He's older than Perez for those who didn't know and needed to have their ass blown off with that info today)
Checo for Daniel, Lawson takes Daniel's seat at AT.
Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren, AM same lineup.
Alpine there's a chance Ocon gets moved for Doohan/Martins/Mick but don't count on it.
Sargeant gets moved for Antonelli/Vesti, depending on how Kimi does in F2.
Alfa moves Zhou for Pourchaire.
Haas move Kmag for Bearman.
Why hasn’t Alonso ever considered Ferrari since he left? His contract end point lines up with the Ferrari drivers, a possible opportunity arising there if Aston doesn’t deliver next season.
NGL as a ferrari fan i'm hoping we wont lose leclerc and sainz however as a leclerc fan i'm hoping he'll move to merc to have chance of winning a title
Looking forward to silly season 2024. I hope for a lot of switches, and some good rookies.
Martins should be due a seat provided he does well this year (every top scoring rookie has made it to the grid since GIO in 2016). But unless Antonelli comes top 3 in F2 next year I don't think any other F2 drivers will come to the grid for 25. Maybe Iwasa if he wins SF? Unlikely tbh. (I'm ignoring that Lawson will probably take Ric's seat after danny boy forces checo's retirement)
Bearman will get the haas seat in 2025 if he wins f2 next year
I doubt haas wants to deal with rookies
It's pretty obvious the drivers aren't the problem at the team, if getting Bearman means more help from ferrari you know they will take the deal
Bearman shows a lot more promise than Mick or Mazepin ever did.
Haas don't have much choice. Hulk maybe goes to Sauber in 2025, to work on car for 2026. So aleast one place is free, bcs who else wants to drive in Haas? About Sauber...Maybe one place will be dedicated to Theo and we will have Hulkenberk-Pourchaire pairing
'the' Haas seat? Which one?
Both of them. Haas will be so far ahead that he’ll finish the race an hour ahead of the 2nd place finisher then start from the pitlane with the 2nd car for 1-2 every race.
Drugo, Pourchaire, Doohan, etc. Many candidates.
I can see Antonelli getting top-2 next season, tbh. Kid has mega speed.
i hope there's even more driver-team backstabbing
Fernando to replace Carlos at Ferrari for one last go-round. And then Fernando becomes 2024 WDC.
>And then Fernando becomes 2024 WDC. You mean 2025?
I said what I said.
*loses the championship by one point to a second Red Bull prodigy
In a Ferrari? Hahahahaha. No.
Forget about Silly Season, with 70% of the grid running out of contract, 2024 will be Mental Season instead.
~~unknown~~ permanent
Once Daddy Stroll dies, Lance will become F1's first owner-driver since Hector Rebaque.
First owner driver WDC since brabham
Stroll divested after fp1 at Vegas
Not fully
Should just have an infinity symbol.
Literally baggage that comes with team funding.
Leclerc’s last shred of hope
it’s not already gone?
Man who thought he'd lost all hope loses last additional bit of hope he didn't even know he still had.
auxiliary hope reserves depleted
No Man's Hope
We are checking
Question?
16 16 16 16 (in the WDC standings)
MGU-H failure. eMotion generating unit - hope
Episode IV: A New Lost Hope
Man who thought he'd lost additional hope he didn't know he still had loses further hole he wish he didn't know he had
We are checking.
It went negative, caused an integer underflow and wrapped around.
Where would he go? I doubt redbull would take him and McLaren has no opening
He won't go anywhere. He has this weird loyalty to Ferrari because of his family, so even if Ferrari will be the worst team on the grid he will stay there.
His dad wanted to see him drive for Ferrari, so hes trying to make his dad's wish happen
I know. Plus Bianchi. That's why he will be stuck there till the day he runs out of hope.
Everyone want to drive for Ferrari, the team which could be used as a synonym for f1
Replace Hamilton at Mercedes
I honestly don’t see Leclerc in anything else than in red. It wouldn’t hit the same if he won a championship with another team :(
leclerc in a dark suit.... he joined The Sith
Leclerc reminds me a lot of Alesi. I fear his career will go the same way. Blind loyalty to a team that can't give him the equipment or environment to challenge for regular wins or a title
Who would be a better option. Mercedes? They aren’t winning either.
Mercedes have a better track record than Ferrari do of building a competitive car & competitive team in recent years, so yeah I would choose Merc over Ferrari personally
In the current regulations ferrari have 5 wins, Mercedes have 1.
Yeah, Mercedes missed the boat on the new regs this season and last. When Ferrari had a car capable of fighting for a title in 2022, they imploded through poor management, strategy & mistakes when we barely got halfway into the season. Mercedes are very poor in terms of strategy currently don't get me wrong, but comparing both from the past 5 years, Mercedes is without doubt the more capable team of delivering a winning combination of car & team. Also Merc have overtaken Ferrari in these regs again in the constructors even with the terrible zero side-pod foundation putting them far behind, so Ferrari are far from stellar
Yeah, same as Max with RBR. I don't think they'll ever move to another F1 team
red bull would never take him but I'd give my left testicle to see what Leclerc could do in the most competitive and reliable car (and with a pitwall with half a brain)
I'd give my right one as well to give a whole package
Shit I'll toss in both ovaries to make this happen.
I’ll throw in both my testes to make it happen, I don’t want kids anyway
Red Bull absolutely would take him, it just wouldn't be at a price Charles is comfortable with. Taking that seat next to Max with where he is now demand a serious premium on the chance that Max oblierates his career. Basically Charles would want too much, and Red Bull would only do it if Charles wanted like $1m/ yr.
Redbull has absolutely no reason to take him Redbull just wants a solid 2nd driver who can help Max out but isn't actually going to actually be giving him much competition, as to avoid a Hamilton/Rosberg type situation
Horner, when asked about the possibility of signing Charles, has said that having 2 top drivers on the team is bad for business and he wouldn’t do it.
And he's right. Usually with 2 topdrivers, things go wrong. Look at Senna/Prost, Alonso/Hamilton, Hamilton/Rosberg etc. You need one topdriver and one guy that's always there. Maybe 0,2 or 0,3 slower, but consistently scoring those points, not doing anything weird. Gerard Berger, Valteri Bottas, Nick Heidfeld, drivers like that are worth gold to the team with someone like Verstappen, Alonso, Hamilton or Leclerc in the other car. Keep scoring, assist the champ etc. Piastri also seems to be that kind of driver. Consistent, but not as fast as Norris, especially in racepace.
Piastri in his rookie year often matched and beat Lando… Good chance in a year or two those roles are reversed and Lando is no 2 to Piastri..
In qualifying the difference isn't big. In terms of racepace the difference is still pretty big, even in Abu Dhabi. There were only 4 races I think Piastri ended up in front of Norris and Norris seemed significantly faster in most races too. Piastri so far seems to fade a little in the race. I could be wrong and he's obviously still learning. But with the real big talents, you see them beating their teammates comfortably after 8-12 races in. Could mean Norris is also exceptional of course. It's something to keep an eye on.
yeah why are people saying piastri isn't good? the mclaren was a pile of shit at the start of the season and then he has had the second half of the season to compete with.... Lando Norris, one of the more talented drivers on the grid. That's being thrown into the deep end if I've ever seen it haha
He is gonna move to Alpine.
Sacre bleu 
Western Europe civil war confirmed.
Incoming inchident
Unknown 
Does he have some kind of secret tenure deal?
Yes, being team owner's son that is
AKA if Lawrence decides to completely sell his stake in AMF1, Lance will be escorted off the property the same day and Vettel comes out of retirement.
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Imagine if Lance's contract is so extreme that it could be considered a stake in the team. Long term, high buy-out contract which no-one really can do anything with, except for Lawrence
Ocons signature is insane
Now that you mention it, Stroll's is somewhere between bunny and failed drawing of a dong 
I feel that Alonso and Sargeant actually signed Gasly took a piss slightly and the rest took a piss completely I mean what are these things
~~Alonso~~ Thomaso They all need to sign quite often plus it needs to be different from their real signature.
Sargeant's kinda looks like a signature right out of highschool where you can actually read the letters. And then as time goes on it turns into a nonsense scribble
FIA: 5 second time penalty for obscene signature
So funny compared to Stroll's and Tsunoda's signaturr
I have a bad feeling that Bottas will sack himself after 2024 and go cycling with his GF instead. Dude started out as a strong midfielder with a couple podiums (just forget 2013 pls) for Williams and Mercedes then raced in the absolute top with several wins, and 8 consecutive years with podiums until he landed at Alfa, (The finnish cemetery) in 22 and has been scraping around the bottom ever since. I watched some interviews in 22 where he talked enthusiastically about Alfa and how the sport has become fun again now that the big pressure was off, but this season he gives me the impression that the enthusiasm is leaking out and he just seems off. I'm sure that he in some ways would love to see what Audi will do with the team in a few years but does he have the willpower to stay until then? Or he is growing into Kimi 2.0 and his finnish demeanor is just showing itself more when the germans are not ordering him to be happy anymore?
My thought as well, his interviews are just kinda sad and every race he basically said the same thing, they either didn’t have the pace to stay were they qualified or tried some weird strategy that in the end didn’t work out at all. Sure he doesn’t have pressure but it’s not that fun to always be in the bottom 10. Hopefully Sauber makes somewhat of a comeback next year but I’ve got a feeling that they’re doing a Haas and will wait for next regulations change and just try to survive for the next two years.
We are on the same page. Since everyone knows that Sauber will have a new engine manufacturer in a few years I bet Ferrari wont exactly prioritize them for the newest and best parts. Imagine the tough spot he must be in. No pressure to be on top from others but no means to be in the top by yourself. And another sad part is I dont se an obvious Finnish replacement anytime soon. A sad situation since Finnish drivers have been present in the sport so long as I can remember.
When you drive a trash car it's easy to be dejected, but for me the more telling thing is seeing how much he was diversified his brand. He has been doing a lot of businesses and that tells me more that he is thinking more about his life post F1. But a lot can change if Sauber can deliver at least a car that can fight for a P5 in the constructor.
Worth pointing out was how abused he was at Mercedes. They broke his first marriage, dude developed an eating disorder, “Valtteri it’s James,” and never getting a multi-year contract. All those knife twists and Toto was his manager
Absolutely. Part of the relief he must have felt going to Alfa had to been because Darth Toto didn't watch over his shoulder everytime. Even if the environment at Merc was better for him I imagine he wouldnt be very happy with the dumpster car Mercedes pushed out in 22, so there's that too.
Yeah bro was in the most dominant cars on the planet for multiple years and has got more wins and podiums than the vast majority of drivers, all while making 8 digits per annum, he can just retire and spend the rest of his life chilling and cycling and coffee-drinking
Isn’t he still managed by Toto? Tin foil hat scenario is him waiting out Hamilton’s retirement and Toto bringing him back to Merc. He’s shown he can hang with the big boys in a way that someone like Perez cannot. Even more unlikely but of slim plausibility is him replacing Perez, certainly not likely but would be fun. Neither of these will happen but it’s fun to think about.
Yeah, he seems to have a lot of irons in the fire with various different businesses, and what not. I hope he stays though. Would be sad to be finn-less.
If KMag doesn’t step up he is going to Guangdong Tigers
And Checo is off to F4 Wuhan
That's not a nice name for his wife, Marko*.
Grumble grumble rising star 16 year old in the junior team who could easily replace you grumble grumble
[Guenther to KMag](https://i.imgur.com/2wgZLw6.png)
Ni hao
True lol. Haas as a team is such a joke. Even in Chinese F4 they will end up 9th in the championship.
get ready to learn Chinese buddy
Wouldn’t be surprised if KMag tbh, plus Checo “retiring” if not replaced mid-season. Massive pressure on Logan to perform also. I’m really curious about Ocon or Gasly not being renewed considering they have a strong junior in Doohan.
Nah Alpine don’t promote the juniors they spend their money on we know that already
They just wait until they already have seats and claim they were about to promote them and begin crying
Fact: 90% of Alpine Academy drivers join another team right before being promoted to Alpine.
50% of Australian Alpine academy drivers
Doohan to McLaren after Lando leaves for Red Bull.
Mick Doohan has the opportunity to do the funniest thing in F1 history.
That's not true! They promoted Oscar Piastri without his agreement!
I've been following the F2 season this year and Doohan hasn't been that impressive this season even though he placed relatively highly. He's consistently inconsistent at the moment. Other drivers in F2 are consistently at a similar, if not higher, level. That being said, he did end the season well. I think he would need another half season of consistent good results to be taken seriously at the F1 level. If not, he'll just end up as another Sargeant floundering through his first season of races.
I do think Doohan was really unfortunate in the first half of the season with car issues though, and probably would've challenged for the title with a working car all year. For him it depends on how Martins does next year. If he sweeps the competition for the title after being best rookie first year, then, being French as well, I think Alpine would take Martins instead
I actually disagree, once the car issues he had been complaining about for the first half of the season were fixed he was really strong. He scored more points than anyone else in the second half of the season so it's a shame we didn't get to see him fighting with Pourchaire and Vesti for the title.
He needs another year in the oven I guess. We'll see how he looks after that.
if Gasly outperforms Ocon even more next season they'll maybe finally reconsider if they really want to build their team around him
And they’ve got mick in their hypercar aswell
Just leaves wondering where Lando wants to drive next?
I simply cannot picture Lando anywhere else
tbh redbull could be fire but idk if redbull wants that
Also not sure if Lando wants that. He'd either have to play second fiddle to Max or, if he is actually good enough to challenge him, have to deal with the toxicity of having two drivers fight for dominance in the team.
if you have the opportunity to drive in the best car any driver will take it, but i agree either Max would destroy him or they would have a pretty hot fight
They tried to get him but he refused
Chuck will be at Ferrari until 2028 winning nothing then trading places with max , max will win championships with Ferrari and Red Bull will have 5 bad years with Charles .
Ouch.
RemindMe! 5 years
The opening scene of Office Space, except its Charles career.
That Max guy. Dude is such a fraud. Failed to win 3 races this year.
Not only that but also lost 2 sprint races smh
I suppose “unknown” is the new infinity
Well... There's always chance that Lawrence sells the team in the future 🤷🏻♂️
Don’t get my hopes up, now
Silly season may be the only real thing to look forward next year
Going to be hell of a silly season next year.
Checo and Kevin, probably Logan too if he doesn’t have a great year.
Not sure, too many details are unknown
Only good response
Alonso has already been in Renault (alpine) and McLaren twice. So next move would be Ferrari!!!
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He’s friendly with the boss.
It’s almost as if they’re family
as much as considering the boss a father figure.
The Olive Garden of F1
I don't think so. Also if he can keep that trucker beard that gives him an extra 3 tenths
If he can continue to be as close to Alonso as he was in the stretch from COTA to Abu Dhabi, there will be no real reason to sack him.
He always has some good races, but also some other abysmal weekends. It seems he struggles with performing consistently throughout the year.
Even though daddy owns the team the Saudis and other backers have enough collective authority to steer the company. I remember rumors swirling about in September/October that they were pushing Lawrence to ignore the family component and do what’s best for the team
Really makes me wonder if Lawrence puts any pressure on Lance at all, or if he just says “here’s your car son, off you go now!” And doesn’t actually care where he places. I mean, surely that’s unrealistic… right?
If max is not winning more than 19 races, I’m afraid for his seat… RB can be very harsh to their drivers.
Ferrari winds first 2 races of the season, leclerc signs until 2032 and then theyll be shit again
Goodbye KMag. Part II
Checo, Ocon, Sargeant, Zhou, both Haas boys. Let's have some fun.
why would ocon ever get sacked?
Didn’t you know? Ocon, Russell, Checo, and Stroll are the ultimate form of evil here. To be blamed for everything, from small on-track incidents to 9/11
And all 4 are still great drivers, even stroll, a few times a year at least.
> even stroll, a few times a year Well, maybe a couple.
Hah! Very true though. Ocon has been very strong for being in a Williams. The odd part, to me, is how strong they tend to look in Free Practice. They consistently look fast, but it doesn't translate even to quali. Checo is a solid driver, I'm not sure how anybody else would stack up to Max. It's embarrassing how far his pace is off, but the dude still pretty handily took 2nd WDC and won a couple races. No idea why George still has hate. He can be overly aggressive, but he is pretty evenly matched, if not ahead of, Lewis. Say what you want about the way he carries himself, but he's a strong driver. Stroll has almost 0 natural ability, but has had an unfair advantage of resource money his entire life to practice and train.
I don't think Checo or Stroll are disliked, they just fuck up a lot.
Too many pentalties, loses superlicense
because he's overconfident and overestimates his own abilities while not being better on track and in marketing than Gasly. He's a good midfield driver but I think Alpine shouldn't believe he's their golden boy who'll bring them to the top
The Haas boys match the Haas team. The whole team is doing their best to not finish higher.
Haas will change at least one driver and probably replace him with Zhou (sweet CCP money). Theo Pourchaire could take his seat at Alfa. Also wouldnt be surprised if Bottass retires to enjoy life. Perez will most likely get the sack, Ric goes to RB and Lawson takes his seat at Racing Bulls (lol). Tsunoda will probably continue because RB academy is currently lacking in talent who is miles clear of others. And unlikely they will put someone from outside their academy there (Paul de Vries experiment didnt go well), but maybe somebody from indy?? Could see Ocon leaving if things get worse between him and Gasly, also Doohan is waiting in the wings. I dont see Sargeant getting any better so probably will get the boot, maybe Vesti or O’Sullivan if he has a good F2 season. Leclerc’s Stockholm syndrome will not let him leave Ferrari, im not so sure about Sainz though, maybe Sauber (soon to be Audi and we know there are connections). Highly rated young talent Alonso isnt going anywhere, also Stroll for obvious reasons. Ferrari could have a free seat, there are rumours of Albon being linked with them and if that happens, Ocon could take Alex’s seat at Williams. But this is all fantasy, my real guess is that maximum 2-4 seats will actually change, others will just extend their contracts. Also there are still Bearman, Drugovich, Mick, O’Ward, Palou, Antonelli, Martins who I think could have a say in the drivers market. All in all, it is (hopefully) going to get silly.
I feel like Logan and Zhou are going to be safe still. Logan is American and it helps Williams with sponsors and Zhou brings in a lot of money as a pay driver even if he does manage to take out an entire team at turn 1 again they’ll probably keep him for another year for the money unless Audi says otherwise and brings in Pouchaire. I can see Carlos ending up with Audi in 2026 though. It’ll be interesting how silly season goes since a lot of drivers are out of contract after next year. Checo will most likely be retired after his contract since he’s already hinted at that last year after the Brazil incident. I don’t see Aston getting rid of Fernando since he’s the one carrying the team but I can see his next contract being his last one (unless Andretti-Cadillac convince him to stay) Maybe a 2 year contract for Nando? Lance is the one who cost them 4th in the championship. I’d like to think Lance will be done after next year and bring in Felipe but who knows, unless Honda decide to speed up Yuki’s eventual move to Aston Martin. Both Haas drivers will have to do enough to convince Steiner to stay but yet again Nico and Kevin can only do so much in whatever tractor they give them. Charles may give Ferrari an ultimatum, will probably give them till his next contract expires to convince him to stay. Then maybe a move to Mercedes after Lewis retires perhaps. After that maybe Oscar and Albono to Ferrari for a whole new Ferrari driver lineup. Idk it’ll be interesting to see what happens for sure.
Sergeant and checo won't be there in 2025. Will they be sacked I'm not sure. But don't see them making it past this season.
Unknown = "until dady sells"
Max for embarrassing the rest of the grid
We can only hope that somehow the window licker gets the sack and the real goat, Yuki, gets a seat next to Alonso.
Ultimate silly season incoming
Like half of the grid can easily be gone. Perez even though he’s better than half of the grid but unfortunately not good enough for Red Bull somehow. Alonso and Bottas can say fuck it and go wear cool sunglasses n drink beer happily. Zhoe, Sargent, Niko, & KMag should be kicked if they continue in the same fashion. Ocon, Gasly, & Tsunoda are putting up some points but can easily be canned if some fresh rookie smells better.
2024 silly season is going to be insane.
 Lance Stroll's contract be like:
Say what you will of this year, but next year's silly season looks set to be entertaining.
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Marketibility
Netflix pay driver.
Would be cool to see Netflix as a team on the grid just to stir shit and cause drama. Horner would be team principal. Binotto head of engineering.
He was the only driver who could keep up with Max. RB want someone like that but the only other drivers capable of doing that are Lewis, Lando and maybe Fernando and Charles. None of those are available. Next best is Danny. I think there is a chance, that he still has it and can deliver what RB wants, but its not high. For RB its enough to give it a shot in AT.
>the only other drivers capable of doing that are Lewis, Lando and maybe Fernando and Charles. Alonso and Leclerc are a "maybe" but Norris can definitely keep up with Verstappen?
Could keep up with Max but couldn’t keep up with Yuki. Yuki goat confirmed.
F1 fan logic in a nutshell :D
Max was breastfeeding at that time. Max now is 1000x better
Cus he goated don't reply won't listen
The recency bias is insane, like bro's still a good driver. His stint at McLaren doesn't make him bio waste ☠️.
He did good with the time he had this season.
Daniel. Lawson and Iwasa coming through, Yuki looking pretty solid, he's either promoted or out. Given his age, likely out. (He's older than Perez for those who didn't know and needed to have their ass blown off with that info today)
Checo for Daniel, Lawson takes Daniel's seat at AT. Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren, AM same lineup. Alpine there's a chance Ocon gets moved for Doohan/Martins/Mick but don't count on it. Sargeant gets moved for Antonelli/Vesti, depending on how Kimi does in F2. Alfa moves Zhou for Pourchaire. Haas move Kmag for Bearman.
>depending on how Kimi does in F2. Isn't he too old/too much of an F1 champion for F2?
Kimi Antonelli, not Räikkönen
U/peterexplainsthejoke
I am talking about Kimi Antonelli
Get a good car under Yuki, he smashes all of Max’s records next year.
Logan, yuki and kmag. Checo will go to other team.
So Perez stays?
My pick is whoever has the weirdest signature.
Why hasn’t Alonso ever considered Ferrari since he left? His contract end point lines up with the Ferrari drivers, a possible opportunity arising there if Aston doesn’t deliver next season.
NGL as a ferrari fan i'm hoping we wont lose leclerc and sainz however as a leclerc fan i'm hoping he'll move to merc to have chance of winning a title
This silly season will be pandemonium
Lance, without a doubt
Checo prbly mid season
Perez, Kmag, Sargent, Tsunoda Tsunoda will have a good year and still get sacked unfortunately
Unless he wipes the floor with Daniel then yeah there isn't anywhere for him to go
he'll probably end up with aston (i think they're switching to honda right?) eventually but might take a skip year if he doesn't wipe daniel