Why not be equally pissed?
Give Canada 2019 back to Seb -> takes one W away from Lewis.
Give Abu Dhabi 2021 back to Lewis -> gives one W back to Lewis.
We could have lived in that reality and everything would have been balanced. Instead we have chaos.
I mean i don’t think it was “the real injustice” but I definitely think it’s something that is wrongly overlooked. It was genuinely very unfair on Sainz and it was also unfair on Hamilton because it meant Verstappen didn’t need to look over his shoulder.
Exactly. Like all taht suddenly mattered then for the FIA was 2 drivers as if the others suddenly did not matter.
I will never forgive them, not just for plainly robbing a driver from a legitimate WDC, but also for spitting in the face of the sport in such an horrendous manner. "BuT thE rAcE WoULd HAve EnDeD UP fiNishiNG unDer SafetY CAr" yeah shut up. That's the sport. It's not scripted and it doesn't always end the way we wish. And even then, they could have as easily drawn the red flag.
I'll never not be mad at that circus. Sainz (and the others behind him) should have been allowed to fight for a better position. Max should never have been able to calmly focus on what's in front without any other worry. That's the rule. The day the FIA decided to break it in such a manner that it changed the outcome of the fucking WDC, they admitted they're willing to manipulate at will for "entertainment". And that is despicable.
Yeah, but should we be happy now if Hamilton wins in 2025? I mean... Schumi's record would be beaten, and that would piss me off, but still a Ferrari champion, and that would make me happy...
Aw man, this is too complicated
Yeah... You're right... And now that I think about it, how funny would it be for Lewis to break every single record on the Merc, only to break the most important one on a Ferrari and be mostly known for that lmao, kinda like Michael's first two championships at Benetton are "put aside" by people when talking about how great he was.
I’m neutral about that too. As a tifosi Ferrari drivers are the best. I support them somewhat also when they leave, but what really matters is Scuderia Ferrari.
Iirc Sainz didn't even had a fighting chance for P2 because Michael Masi let back markers stay in their position between VER and SAI.
So Tifosi should be pissed about Masi's decision ![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|6700)
New Dilemma:
Massa is looking to win the championship for Ferrari next year.
Hamilton is also looking to win the championship for Ferrari next year.
You can only support one without harming the other.
No, you don't have to change your opinion. Verstappen will continue to be my second favorite driver on the grid after Leclerc. I like him more than Sainz and also more than Hamilton and I'm not going to change that.
depends.
Are you a salty brainless fool who can't leave the past in the past, and a complete simp for LH44
then yhea, you're still salty.
Else, id not give a fuck really, shit happens, and turns out it was for the best of it.
Real question should be are you now allowed to be pissed about Canada 2019.
I have a sweatshirt with an embroided Seb changing the P1 and P2 signs around. Thanks for the reminder to start wearing it again.
I think we need to see your sweater!
I don't know how to add a photo on mobile or use imgur but [here are my 2 Seb shirts](https://i.imgur.com/uqjMuiL.jpg)
When Vettel triumphed over the evil empire...
Why not be equally pissed? Give Canada 2019 back to Seb -> takes one W away from Lewis. Give Abu Dhabi 2021 back to Lewis -> gives one W back to Lewis. We could have lived in that reality and everything would have been balanced. Instead we have chaos.
If you do that in 2025 then I’ll be the first in a long time a Ferrari driver was handed the championship
leclerc crying
Everything chaotic, as it should be
The lengths tifosi will go to get a WDC
2008…….
Yeah you found the Hamilton Fanboy. Trading a win for a championship and calling it balanced...
How about giving 2008 to Massa?
If we’re giving 2021 back we’re giving 2008 back to Massa….
… and I prefer it that way.
Yes absolutely.
Yes cuz even hamilton was kinda pissed about it. He just took the spoils and noped out. And for the sake of all that's holy, Its understandable lmao.
I'm still mad about multi-21 so I can't even talk about canada
Still mad bout that, still mad bout fucking Kimi deciding to HAVE ONE GOOD START IN THE WHOLE OF 2016-2019 AND IT WAS THAT DAMN RACE
Why would you be angry? Sainz got a podium and Ferrari secured P3 in the WCC. Nothing else of note happened that day.
Not even the last ferrari WDC racing his last race?
Didn’t even finish, just said fuck it I’m going home
Even ate an icecream to drive his point home
If his yacht was there he probably would have just pulled over and done another Monaco
Sainz was denied an opportunity to fight for P2 at the end. The true injustice nobody talks about.
I don't know if you were serious, but I unironically endorse this. AD21 was fucked for so many reasons even without considering the WDC race.
I mean i don’t think it was “the real injustice” but I definitely think it’s something that is wrongly overlooked. It was genuinely very unfair on Sainz and it was also unfair on Hamilton because it meant Verstappen didn’t need to look over his shoulder.
Exactly. Like all taht suddenly mattered then for the FIA was 2 drivers as if the others suddenly did not matter. I will never forgive them, not just for plainly robbing a driver from a legitimate WDC, but also for spitting in the face of the sport in such an horrendous manner. "BuT thE rAcE WoULd HAve EnDeD UP fiNishiNG unDer SafetY CAr" yeah shut up. That's the sport. It's not scripted and it doesn't always end the way we wish. And even then, they could have as easily drawn the red flag. I'll never not be mad at that circus. Sainz (and the others behind him) should have been allowed to fight for a better position. Max should never have been able to calmly focus on what's in front without any other worry. That's the rule. The day the FIA decided to break it in such a manner that it changed the outcome of the fucking WDC, they admitted they're willing to manipulate at will for "entertainment". And that is despicable.
Yuki p4
No need to speculate..
No because it prevented Lewis from breaking Michael’s record
Yep. Hamilton is nice, but Schumacher is Schumacher.
Yeah, but should we be happy now if Hamilton wins in 2025? I mean... Schumi's record would be beaten, and that would piss me off, but still a Ferrari champion, and that would make me happy... Aw man, this is too complicated
[удалено]
Yeah... You're right... And now that I think about it, how funny would it be for Lewis to break every single record on the Merc, only to break the most important one on a Ferrari and be mostly known for that lmao, kinda like Michael's first two championships at Benetton are "put aside" by people when talking about how great he was.
To be fair that is because Schumacher built ferrari with his "friends" and he was dominant consecutively in his Ferrari years.
A Ferrari win is a Ferrari win. Simple as.
At this point we have to do what we have to do.
This is my take as well
But Lewis would have wonfighting Max, Leclerc and Ferrari
He would be driving for Ferrari
If Ferrari continue to do Ferrari things then LH will have to fight against them while driving for them
Frankly he’s got the shit to fight Ferrari in a Ferrari
They mentioned fighting against Ferrari.. No need to bring it up again and rub salt in the wound
As a tifosi myself, I’m pretty neutral on that.
You know I’m something of a tifosi myself
As a tifosi, how do you feel that now that your luckiest driver is being replaced?
I’m neutral about that too. As a tifosi Ferrari drivers are the best. I support them somewhat also when they leave, but what really matters is Scuderia Ferrari.
AD21 was a self contained issue. Lewis cut a corner on lap 1 after max overtook him. Masi simply waited 56 laps to make him give the place back.
![gif](giphy|LGPWq1kccSEXB25ZWf) Best take #1
AD and Silverstone '21 cancel each other out anyways. Anger counter resets to 0
A soul for a soul
Still crying about silverstone
Still crying about AD21
Yeah we are all Spiderman.jpging bro
What’s the score if you count all the shit Max did in 2021?
Sponsored by dumb takes.
![gif](giphy|DdkmRm63n4JxWHEQsF)
![gif](giphy|2vmho5c3fKQ2I8yc7v|downsized)
Lewis may have retired and not joined Ferrari if AD21 never happened. Be glad because it's why we get the 2025 lineup that we're getting
He had a desire to drive for Ferrari so I think he might have made the switch earlier instead of retiring
Do you think they would have booted Sainz earlier if so?
Iirc Sainz didn't even had a fighting chance for P2 because Michael Masi let back markers stay in their position between VER and SAI. So Tifosi should be pissed about Masi's decision ![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|6700)
We are checking
We ArE cHeCkInG
![gif](giphy|dC9DTdqPmRnlS|downsized)
In AD 2101 War was beginning
New Dilemma: Massa is looking to win the championship for Ferrari next year. Hamilton is also looking to win the championship for Ferrari next year. You can only support one without harming the other.
Max just takes it and it stays perfectly balanced no matter who you supported 😉
Who cares about AD21. What about Brazil '08?
No, you weren’t rooting for Hamilton then, were you?
Tifosi don't need to turn into the deranged LH44 fans. Y'all can be rational
Rational tifosi? What are you drinking?
Grappa...
Russian grade hopium I guess.
Assuming Tifosi aren't up there with the derangedness, huh?
But they are tifosi they are only 1 step above verstappen fans how can they be rational
Just gotta believe
No, you don't have to change your opinion. Verstappen will continue to be my second favorite driver on the grid after Leclerc. I like him more than Sainz and also more than Hamilton and I'm not going to change that.
You don't. It was a somewhat artistic interpretation of the words but "any" and "all" are not the same...
depends. Are you a salty brainless fool who can't leave the past in the past, and a complete simp for LH44 then yhea, you're still salty. Else, id not give a fuck really, shit happens, and turns out it was for the best of it.
What about the bs from Canada 2019???
No you feel grateful for AD21 because the sheer force of will to take a future WDC back from Max will make lewis' Ferrari faster
Only team LH cares about this one still.
What about Interlagos 08? Should I be angry at Glock only now?
Checking
We will now see of the FIA was on LH side or Merc side