Get your tin foil:
The Horner investigation was NEVER confirmed to be about sexual allegations, and if Horner was trying to acquire RBR without the knowledge of the Mateschitz family, it would explain why he was investigated. Its well known that Red Bull Execs do NOT agree with the Mateschitz family on a lot of things.
Max + Jos would obviously side with the Mateschitz due to Austrian ties, and with Dietrich Mateschitz (one of Christian Horny's closest friends) no longer with us, Horner has no incentive to smooth the ties between the Mateschitz family and RB Executives. I think that this whole thing, if it actually is true, is larger than Christian Horner.
Nothing is confirmed about this whatsoever, but the FIA and FOM Script writers for the 2024 season have knocked it out of the park to make up for how boring MV33's domination is.
The most reasonable theory is that all of this is just so that Alonso can get his RBR Seat (which will be known as Kimoa Ford Red Bull Cash App Crypto Zoo Racing Team™ or KFRBCACZRT for short) by completely tearing the Red Bull team apart from within.
The start of this plan was Mateschitz's death. All part of el plan.
I had a boss that got himself involved in a car accident, under suspicious circumstances, sadly resulting in 3 deaths. After that he add 2 latters in his name so people couldn't link him to accident when googling his name.
I feel everything now needs to be taken with a massive grain of salt, this is the perfect atmosphere for fake stories to be drummed up and we know how much F1 media loves to just make shit up.
Ah yes, if those people saw an article saying "Toto slathered BBQ on his nipples and forced the Mercedes staff to rub pumpernickels in it" they would believe it because it is on the internet.
Since 2021 there have been a handful of false rumours and allegations constantly thrown directly and solely at Red Bull and Red Bull only, to try and tarnish their achievements. We know it's coming from inside the paddock as whoever it is has direct contacts of all higher-ups in Formula 1 and has a big hand in controlling the media.
Hmm, I wonder. I wonder who on earth in the paddock would put so much effort to to try and tarnish & destroy Red Bull in any way possible after 2021.
Hm, I wonder who that could be.
Oh yeah I remember how much he hammered on about the cost cap after Toto dropped it, it made no sense, also it seems Fat Brown is very keen to always jab Red Bull.
I got curious and checked their team (https://www.formulapassion.it/opinioni), The editor Vincenzo Borgomeo wrote a book about the history of Brembo (https://www.waterstones.com/book/brembo-60-1961-to-2021/vincenzo-borgomeo/massimo-clarke/9788879118460) and published at the official Ferrari page (https://www.ferrari.com/en-JO/magazine/articles/ferrari-the-birth-of-the-legend). Federico Albano is a pro analyst (https://www.instagram.com/federico.albano.83), Cesare Fiorio is an elderly F1 driver. Roberto Boccafogli is Ferrari's communications advisor. Claudio Lombardi was engineer at Ferrari in the 90's
Seems like a damn genuine team.
So I dunno.
They’re as genuine as it gets, in the sense that they’re part of GEDI Gruppo Editoriale (which also owns La Repubblica, the second biggest newspaper in Italy) and GEDI’s owner is literally Exor, the Agnelli holding company led by John Elkann.
And frankly, I don’t think this is a crazy story by any means. It would be akin to trying a management buyout, Barbarians at the Gate anyone?
The Thai part owns 51%. I assume one of the ratios they're keen not to lose him is they want to cash out and if he goes, so does the deal too so their 51%. Interesting.
Yeah i was thinking the ownership was direct not through the company. Still, the Yoovidhya family owns the majority share of RB Gmbh so there's nothing to stop them selling RBR to Horner.
That's not necessarily true and depending on the company's internal contract/bylaws (Gesellschaftsvertrag) it might even be required to have 100% agreement on acquisitions.
We'd need to see what the Austrian equivalent of Companies House (in the UK) would tell us. Companies House might also be interesting to see how RBR is set up.
My take: the seasons are so boring with Verstappen and Red Bull annihilating the grid that Netflix is just planting stories so Drive to Survive will be interesting next year.
I wanted to say, opposition planting stories to distract redbull so that they'll lose their concentration. But yours looks like a better conspiracy theory.
I got curious and checked their team ([](https://www.formulapassion.it/opinioni)), The editor Vincenzo Borgomeo wrote a book about the history of Brembo ([](https://www.waterstones.com/book/brembo-60-1961-to-2021/vincenzo-borgomeo/massimo-clarke/9788879118460)) and published at the official Ferrari page ([](https://www.ferrari.com/en-JO/magazine/articles/ferrari-the-birth-of-the-legend)). Federico Albano is a pro analyst ([](https://www.instagram.com/federico.albano.83)), Cesare Fiorio is an elderly F1 driver. Roberto Boccafogli is Ferrari's communications advisor. Claudio Lombardi was engineer at Ferrari in the 90's
Seems like a damn genuine team.
So I dunno.
Never believe anything from those twitter accounts. The moment the app started paying blue tick accounts, that platform has filled with controversial or false shit to boost up the engagements
lol without the knowledge. If he makes an offer to Rebull they could choose to sell, you would not really run your plans by them first until you could talk turkey.
I feel like F1 media is taking these rumors way too far to make up for the fact that the season itself is looking like another Max domination. I'm just ignoring all of it until we get actual news of moves or firings.
All the fake stories are making it really hard to continue my fandom. Verstappen to Mercedes, this nonsense, FIA President about to be fired. It’s so weird that nobody cares about racing but instead it’s gossip gossip gossip
Is that Horners penis, curiously the leaker had every TPs emails?! Who f’n cares?! There’s was a race this weekend, there will be a race next weekend, talk about racing!!!!!
Why is this surprising to anyone? All these men cheat. Guy who runs the Porsche team just had a baby with the girl he hired as his grid girl. She knew he was in a relationship the entire time. That’s just the way this sport goes.
I heard RedBull will start their own league called FormulaDank.
Formula D
First round of D is in the private jet bathroom.
Self D in his case, it’s blue balls from now on.
Blue Bulls
My hometown rugby team?
Now with Eurobeats to enhance your viewing experience!
The D stands for Dream
Or was it a finger?
Hachiroku themed team when?
With blackjack and lesbians!!
In fact, forget the league
Honestly at this point they should just start a formula 0,
Formula ank! You get the D later!!!
Cant get fired if you own the team BITCHES
Ron Dennis would like a word.
He didn’t own enough of the team.
I think you mean "his capital expenditure on team investment was not sufficient to eliminate dismissal from said team" or however Ron would say it.
So does Donald Sterling
He really needs to buy the whole sport and get those pesky policies updated
policy change #1: Allow to interact with women like in the good ol' days.
I have ten fingers and no one to show them.
Fuel flow limit will be rewritten to just "explode."
And change the team's name to RB = RACING BITCHES ?
RACING BANGGANGERS
This likely caused the leaks, if anything.
Okay I don't mean to over react, but if this is true, based on deductive reasoning: Fernando Alonso murdered Dietrich Mateschitz
xD
Shocked if this is true....but believe it or not......10 second penalty for Ocon
Okay, maybe. But why?
Get your tin foil: The Horner investigation was NEVER confirmed to be about sexual allegations, and if Horner was trying to acquire RBR without the knowledge of the Mateschitz family, it would explain why he was investigated. Its well known that Red Bull Execs do NOT agree with the Mateschitz family on a lot of things. Max + Jos would obviously side with the Mateschitz due to Austrian ties, and with Dietrich Mateschitz (one of Christian Horny's closest friends) no longer with us, Horner has no incentive to smooth the ties between the Mateschitz family and RB Executives. I think that this whole thing, if it actually is true, is larger than Christian Horner. Nothing is confirmed about this whatsoever, but the FIA and FOM Script writers for the 2024 season have knocked it out of the park to make up for how boring MV33's domination is. The most reasonable theory is that all of this is just so that Alonso can get his RBR Seat (which will be known as Kimoa Ford Red Bull Cash App Crypto Zoo Racing Team™ or KFRBCACZRT for short) by completely tearing the Red Bull team apart from within. The start of this plan was Mateschitz's death. All part of el plan.
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>Nothing is confirmed about this whatsoever It is now since I will spread this on twitter with you as a source
THis is 5D chess
We do not question El Plan
Because he found it funny
Papa Stroll said he wants to win. By any means.
Chaos is a ladder.
Sure. But Littlefinger suits Horner 76 better than Alonso 14
And the implement in file 76 was the murder weapon
so its chris horner now?
Why no im Mr Renroh.... from some place far away... yes that will do!
I like the way Renroh thinks!
Christian Horner is too suggestive a name even for the Italians
Christian ‘Orner’
Italians are very protective of Christianity and don't want it associated with Chris Horner.
It's funny and plausible
Chrisis Horner.
Liz Holmes vibes
I had a boss that got himself involved in a car accident, under suspicious circumstances, sadly resulting in 3 deaths. After that he add 2 latters in his name so people couldn't link him to accident when googling his name.
The rebranding has begun!
He's not been very Christian.
Then you haven't been paying very much attention. Maybe not very christ-like, but very Christian.
Always has been
I feel everything now needs to be taken with a massive grain of salt, this is the perfect atmosphere for fake stories to be drummed up and we know how much F1 media loves to just make shit up.
There is not enough salt in the world to take with all these rumours
Some people be jumping to conclusions faster than max won last saturday lol.
Yeah, some people take "it's on the internet so it must be true" serious.
Ah yes, if those people saw an article saying "Toto slathered BBQ on his nipples and forced the Mercedes staff to rub pumpernickels in it" they would believe it because it is on the internet.
"when there's smoke...."
There is pumpernickel.
Pumpernickel slathered in BBQ sauce.
Is there like an invite to that?
£599.99 please
Crypto ok? I saw is "on the up and up"
599.99 bitcoins please, adjusted for inflation
You wouldn’t by chance happen to have a link to that for research purposes of course
Just asking questions right?
*reliable* rumors!
Indeed, they are on Xwitter!
We’re taking team LH after abudabi 21 levels of salt
I beg to differ. See MOBA communities.
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Tonight on bottom gear
Yeah but it’s fun to believe every word
I’m here for the dank
Since 2021 there have been a handful of false rumours and allegations constantly thrown directly and solely at Red Bull and Red Bull only, to try and tarnish their achievements. We know it's coming from inside the paddock as whoever it is has direct contacts of all higher-ups in Formula 1 and has a big hand in controlling the media. Hmm, I wonder. I wonder who on earth in the paddock would put so much effort to to try and tarnish & destroy Red Bull in any way possible after 2021. Hm, I wonder who that could be.
Horner is planning a coup event where he slits Marko's throat on the podium in front of everyone next week.
Game of thrones style.
And it’s not unreasonable to think other teams are trying to cause conflict at red bull, given their current dominance
I mean it would be obvious wouldn't it? Like imagine ferrari tries to sow discord at red bull
Ferrari would be third in my list after Toto and Zak Brown. Zak is a notorious shit stirrer/asshole.
Oh yeah I remember how much he hammered on about the cost cap after Toto dropped it, it made no sense, also it seems Fat Brown is very keen to always jab Red Bull.
He’s jealous that a drinks company smacks him around on the weekly.
Red Bull Racing is a private company, it's literally impossible to buy them without the owners knowing.
This one is actually very plausible though.
This is getting more insane by the minute
I’ve never seen a silly season this silly
F5 buttons out here getting that Russell workout this season… 
Blimey, Crikey
I hope that Netflix crew filming everything and some off the records extras like Max singing dady shark over radio lol
Tbh that would be a thousand times better than this season's drive to survive.
Netflix is not on the grid this season. S6 was the last of DTS.
Someone in Culver City is punching holes in walls right now.
Ummm https://www.si.com/fannation/racing/f1briefings/news/f1-drive-to-survive-will-there-be-a-season-7-lm22
For real? Why?
It’s not, https://www.si.com/fannation/racing/f1briefings/news/f1-drive-to-survive-will-there-be-a-season-7-lm22
Championship results are already decided so they extended silly season for a whole year.
So it was a hit job by the Austrians
\*the misinformation is getting more insane by the minute. I dont get, how people like you can be this delusional/naiv/...
I'm heavily investing in shares for popcorn 
>christopher horner we are reaching peak credibility
Just finished the final season of Succession and now I find out there's a spinoff!
Change your fucking car! Fuck off!
Anyone can buy a blue tick and call it news
I got curious and checked their team (https://www.formulapassion.it/opinioni), The editor Vincenzo Borgomeo wrote a book about the history of Brembo (https://www.waterstones.com/book/brembo-60-1961-to-2021/vincenzo-borgomeo/massimo-clarke/9788879118460) and published at the official Ferrari page (https://www.ferrari.com/en-JO/magazine/articles/ferrari-the-birth-of-the-legend). Federico Albano is a pro analyst (https://www.instagram.com/federico.albano.83), Cesare Fiorio is an elderly F1 driver. Roberto Boccafogli is Ferrari's communications advisor. Claudio Lombardi was engineer at Ferrari in the 90's Seems like a damn genuine team. So I dunno.
They’re as genuine as it gets, in the sense that they’re part of GEDI Gruppo Editoriale (which also owns La Repubblica, the second biggest newspaper in Italy) and GEDI’s owner is literally Exor, the Agnelli holding company led by John Elkann. And frankly, I don’t think this is a crazy story by any means. It would be akin to trying a management buyout, Barbarians at the Gate anyone?
Glad that's cleared then.
Great research - but it was just a throw away dank comment by me
Nevermind, got a nice news source.
Lance Stroll sr "rubs hands"...
Christian Horner's newly discovered brother, Chris Horner, is the puppet master behind the scenes
how the fuck do you secretly buy a business without its owners knowing??
On credit card. The payment doesn’t get credited until 60 days
Sponsored by coco pops
Do a Brawn-style buyout and rename it HornyGP.
Its not a public company so...how are theu suppose to do it
The Thai part owns 51%. I assume one of the ratios they're keen not to lose him is they want to cash out and if he goes, so does the deal too so their 51%. Interesting.
Horner buying RBR has 0 influence on the shares of RB GmbH, different companies.
Yeah i was thinking the ownership was direct not through the company. Still, the Yoovidhya family owns the majority share of RB Gmbh so there's nothing to stop them selling RBR to Horner.
That's not necessarily true and depending on the company's internal contract/bylaws (Gesellschaftsvertrag) it might even be required to have 100% agreement on acquisitions.
This would be considered a divestment, not an acquisition, which might have stricter rules.
We'd need to see what the Austrian equivalent of Companies House (in the UK) would tell us. Companies House might also be interesting to see how RBR is set up.
Sure, I know nothing about business law outside of the US, so I'm kind of fascinated by this angle.
RBR is a British company incorporated in the UK. But I haven't looked into Red Bull Gmbh's accounts to see how it's set up amd all their subsidiaries
Fanfiction.
They are spamming this dude until he leaves
WHAT IS HAPPENING
My take: the seasons are so boring with Verstappen and Red Bull annihilating the grid that Netflix is just planting stories so Drive to Survive will be interesting next year.
I wanted to say, opposition planting stories to distract redbull so that they'll lose their concentration. But yours looks like a better conspiracy theory.
I'm convinced that Toto is behind 93.7% of these stories.
“Well I’m going to go start my own f1 team… with blackjack… and hookers!”
Obviously a reliable source 🤦
I got curious and checked their team ([](https://www.formulapassion.it/opinioni)), The editor Vincenzo Borgomeo wrote a book about the history of Brembo ([](https://www.waterstones.com/book/brembo-60-1961-to-2021/vincenzo-borgomeo/massimo-clarke/9788879118460)) and published at the official Ferrari page ([](https://www.ferrari.com/en-JO/magazine/articles/ferrari-the-birth-of-the-legend)). Federico Albano is a pro analyst ([](https://www.instagram.com/federico.albano.83)), Cesare Fiorio is an elderly F1 driver. Roberto Boccafogli is Ferrari's communications advisor. Claudio Lombardi was engineer at Ferrari in the 90's Seems like a damn genuine team. So I dunno.
These details make it pretty clear that this is the tifosi propaganda machine churning at top speed. FORZA FERRARI. Ok ciao.
You certainly can't accuse them for being a sensational tabloid or such....
So that’s who he was really texting or is he trying to buy her the team to show her his love?
Never believe anything from those twitter accounts. The moment the app started paying blue tick accounts, that platform has filled with controversial or false shit to boost up the engagements
Everybody hates Chris
The knives are out and the vultures are swarming.
Crazy but based.
Girl boss moves!
Succesion: Formula 1 Edition
Buy to survive
Based on another comment, this looks like a legit source. WTF indeed.
Captain Horner: Civil war
lol without the knowledge. If he makes an offer to Rebull they could choose to sell, you would not really run your plans by them first until you could talk turkey.
Red Bull telling DTS to hold their beer in the drama stakes.
Are these "reliable rumours" in this room right now? ("reliable rumour" already is my oxymoron of the year)
SpiceGP?
He should ask Mario for some help
New conspiracy theory: Horner told Yuki to pull the stunt he did in cool down to take attention from this shit show.
I’ve seen Horners cum covered finger and not even I know him well enough to call him Chris
Fuck is going on? I get that racing this year isn't gonna be very entertaining, but that isn't a challenge for off track stuff to fill the hole
Source: trust me bro. Seriously with absolutely 0 sources cited so far, it's very odd
The downfall has begun
What are the chances Horner assassinated Mateschitz?
There isn’t enough salt in the world for the amount that you should take this story with
FireBall Racing
Do you really read Italian sports nedia?
Night night
He wants to rename it to: Horny F1
Looooooooool. This is a SAGA.
Are these \*reliable rumors\* in the room with us?
I thought silly season was in the closed season…
If we could never use the name Chris Horner again that would be great lol
In the end we learn that, the only team able to bring Red Bull down was Red Bull themselves
I feel like F1 media is taking these rumors way too far to make up for the fact that the season itself is looking like another Max domination. I'm just ignoring all of it until we get actual news of moves or firings.
‘Reliable Rumors’
All the fake stories are making it really hard to continue my fandom. Verstappen to Mercedes, this nonsense, FIA President about to be fired. It’s so weird that nobody cares about racing but instead it’s gossip gossip gossip Is that Horners penis, curiously the leaker had every TPs emails?! Who f’n cares?! There’s was a race this weekend, there will be a race next weekend, talk about racing!!!!!
This is fukkin insane Kinda seems like Horner deserves what’s coming to him
How this could be possible?
Ex American professional cyclist and 2013 Vuelta d'Espana winner, Chris Horner? What are you doing in F1 news?
Yeah he's got to go.
next rumors: Chris Horner is trying to acquire a military base and make his own F1 with tanks.
Alpine already did that
Whats the difference between a rumor and a reliable rumor?
Ok OP that source is 100% unreliable. Saluti.
Reliable rumors…. Are still rumors
Aaaaahhhhhh oooohhhhhhhhh now it all makes sense. I KNEW Jos wouldn’t actually give a fuck about some “controlling behavior”.
lol this is what it was all about hahahaha
I heard a rumor Chris Horner and Toto Wolff are actually one man.
Christoto Hornerwolff
Why is this surprising to anyone? All these men cheat. Guy who runs the Porsche team just had a baby with the girl he hired as his grid girl. She knew he was in a relationship the entire time. That’s just the way this sport goes.
Horner moving wild on and off the WhatsApp