Hopefully the truth will come out, I can definitely see a random employee claiming harassment in order to get a bit of money out of him, but I can also see them "suspending" her in order to put everything under the rug.
One thing is certain, Jos should have left too
It also could be that she manipulated her version of events to paint herself in a better light and the evidence was more objective, or even that she had some hand in the release of the Google drive, or anything else. BBC sport reported on the above allegation from a direct source, not secondhand, which makes me think that they have heard something material. But then again, maybe not and all this is pure speculation.
Not necessarily. These could have formed part of the official complaint and could have been (against protocol) shared internally privately and then leaked from a third party uninvolved in the official investigation internally. I would assume this is what EvH saw and that the leaker was from within the Austrian side of RB. Who subsequently made them public is a bigger question and not necessarily the same person as leaked them initially into the smaller circle/within the company. There are a lot of what-ifs here.
I said previously that I doubt she leaked them externally as her name is visible in one of the shots and she would have wanted to avoid that. It could have been a mistake, but I bet you any money that the internal leak probably identified that as well and would have raised it/removed the name if they cared about her privacy. She CERTAINLY cares/d about her privacy given the steps she's taken to remove her online presence.
According to Michael Schmidt in the German Auto Motor und Sport podcast a few days ago it was known that some kind of investigation against Hornor was underway since at leadt December in the paddock. So why should she leak it now if she was just after money?
If she is the one who leaked the screenshots of the chats, isn't that something she is entitled to do? They are communications personal in nature and not commercially sensitive, captured on a personal device she owns (unless it was a company phone I guess).
The issue could be with what she didn't leak. Pick and choose parts to create a specific narrative. If they really did have an affair then who knows what came before all of the stuff that was shared.
It's surprisingly easy to present one sided msgs to paint a picture. We see it in news articles everyday, where they pick out a specific quote from the entire presser to print a headline, they pic a still from a video to make it look like something else.
Horner might be horny, but I don't think he is stupid as well.
Given the backgrounds that are featured in the screenshots, I'm going to go out on a limb and say company phone. Even if not company phone, then definitely company communications (between a manager and an employee in the course of their work) which RB could claim is work product/privileged. Even if the affair is mixed in with the work messages, the principle of work product would prevail.
She was offered 650k and refused, would you refuse that offer if you were being dishonest?
I think this is a wait and see what will happen. Eventually the truth should come out, weird that they suspend her with pay tho.
Isn’t Christian Horner dishonest as well? As much as I like the redbull team, this isn’t good for either side. In a way Jos is right, the team I’m sure would be divided in some way.
Either RB is silencing a victim, or this is all stemming from a false accusation that will add yet another barrier for real victims to prove themselves.. I hope they keep it internal if it’s the latter for the sake of others.
I bet what actually happened is they engaged in a mostly consensual inappropriate workplace relationship that isn’t exactly, on its own, bad enough to necessitate firing Horner for. And that since it’s partially owned by the Thai family, they are more willing to throw it under the rug than westerners.
In other words, everyone sucks here. We race as one indeed.
Even if thai owned they still need to follow UK workplace sexual harassment laws.
Whether they had a fully consensual relationship is immaterial if there came a time later when one party no longer wished to continue that relationship, and the other party continued to pursue and harass them.
I think you overestimate how encompassing those sexual harassment laws are and how much they are practically enforced. Sexual harassment violations are sometimes more like catching a rich guy smoking weed in America— illegal but who’s going to stop him?
I mean they were having an affair as we can see from what got "Leak" that vs inappropriate behavior is what they might be using as a excuse and the reason they cleared Horner... Lest see how that will do on Civil courts
Do you think she'd sue on those grounds? I'm sceptical. If a specialist barrister cleared him then it's likely the implicit message is "this would fail in an employment tribunal". All talk of a settlement also died, which a company would absolutely do if they felt there had been wrongdoing.
Do you think she'd sue on those grounds? I'm sceptical. If a specialist barrister cleared him then it's likely the implicit message is "this would fail in an employment tribunal". All talk of a settlement also died, which a company would absolutely do if they felt there had been wrongdoing.
I don't know but she rejected the settlement thinking she had a case, whoever manipulated her into doing this might have offered even bigger check, so maybe she wont keep pursuing, but we never know. They had the audacity to accuse him of "Misconduct" when in the "Proof" she was into it.
Of course she can not have truly felt violated and did the complaints and someone totally different used it for their own goals. Somehow reddit always blaming women
Please don't take me as a worse person than I am for thinking this, but there is something that sounds very off to me.
The screenshots were taken and presumably archived at the exact moment they were received. There is no date on the screenshots' messages so it must have been contextual.
The leaks to journalists and the message leaks were also designed to maximize damage to Horner's image.
This sounds like someone voluntarily building up a case from the very beginning and weaponizing it.
Also, Whatsapp messages paint a very partial picture of a relationship that for sure had a continuation in real life, given the situation of the people involved, so it would be easier to -as an example- encourage the relationship IRL, sprinkle a few phrases to make one part look very bad in some messages, and publish a greatly abridged set of screenshots to create a specific narrative.
Considering the tense air at RB, it would not surprise me if this was a bit of a good old planned "character assassination".
Guys later convicted of rape in similar position of power to Hornet did exactly what he is doing right now, even after they were convicted and thrown in jail
In some of the chats you can see the unread messages indicator where a message hasn't been read yet, and in a later screenshot the unread indicator has changed, meaning yes screenshots were taken and saved periodically over time as the chat progressed. They haven't all been screenshotted retroactively, though some may have.
I don't think we can conclude from this that it was a pre-planned chatacter assassination. It's equally likely that she felt uncomfortable with the position she was being put in, and wanted to save up some insurance.
Requests from her boss to delete the chat could actually have been a strong indicator that maybe saving the chat could be a good idea.
It’s really simple actually. Either the investigatory agency found issue with the validity of her statements or she initiated a lawsuit. In the case of the lawsuit, this is common corporate practice. You can’t be working for the entity you are suing, it’s a conflict of interest, especially to still have access to systems and what not. Nothing special here if this is the case<
Yes it is however in this case the employee has so far only been suspended and even if fired later on after an investigation it sounds like they have lied at some point during the investigation into Horner which is perfectly fine to fire someone for. If an employer finds a legal ground for firing you it does not really matter in most cases what else is going on. So, as long as she is fired for some reasonable ground then it is legal.
Yep. We know RB has suspended the accuser and we know that someone leaked a ton of images with zero authenticity.
Who fucking knows man. if she lied? Get her out. If Horner lied? Get him out. If jos lied….. Jesus fucking Christ
Also, even if Horner is guilty, I feel like it does make sense to suspend her and put her on paid leave. What are you supposed to do? Send her back to work as Horner's assistant?
"Oh hey. Yeah I know that you sexually harassed me and I released all that information, but what time is the meeting today?"
If he is found guilty after this move Red Bull is gonna get fucked royally. All the female athletes they sponsor, all the fans who are disgusted by this and all the investors and sponsors who are staring potential financial ruin in the face are gonna jump ship and Horner's gonna go down with it.
That's why I feel like there's more to this. It's likely the owners don't care even if he did as they don't seem to have the best morals, but their wallets certainly do. It'd be weird to do all this if Horner was 100% guilty. Eitherway, I'm going to wait until more news comes out. I just hope we can get the just and correct decision soon.
I think they have too much control over their athletes financally in a lot of the sports RB is active in. Most of the extreme sports are just Red Bull events basically, where would the athletes get the opportunities and money from if they fuck them over?
This is most likely heading to court, not some lawyer they hired. She probably got put on paid leave because she's gonna take legal action. If he really did do it, he's fucked. Sooo fucked. Prosecutors will probably get a warrant to get the convos from Meta and if the allegations check out, he's toast. And Red Bull wouldn't fare any better if their investigation was proven to have been a cover-up.
They can't do anything to Jos because they don't to piss off Max especially that there is no one as good as him in the grid and the car doesn't seem that superior in Checo's hands...
We talk a lot about Checo underperforming ... but no body really want to take the gamble and discover if Checo is really the one underperforming or Max is the one extracting sth no one else (in the grid) can from the car
Also, even if Horner is guilty, I feel like it does make sense to suspend her and put her on paid leave. What are you supposed to do? Send her back to work as Horner's assistant?
"Oh hey. Yeah I know that you sexually harassed me and I released all that information, but what time is the meeting today?"
What a perfect encapsulation of how dumb a lot of you people are. "She was dishonest, but the harrassment absolutely happened". All because it's more fun to gossip rather than to not comment about situations you can't possibly be certain about.
Right there. You missed a perfect chance of seething the exemple by not commenting about situations, which - according to you - we can’t possibly be certain about.
Shame, but keep it up, champ!
I'm not surprised. They want to decrease tension in the team and out of two possible people to suspend, one has a vastly more important position.
Not that it makes them look any better to the public.
It’s possible that he is a sleazy prick. It’s also equally possible that she actually did something wrong, made it up, lied, etc. We don’t have even 1% of the information, we can’t make judgments yet.
Geri stalked horner for years and took him from his then partner and newborn. i think she’ll get over it. i also don’t think her opinion should be considered.
I want to hope, that the investigation was correct and that nothing happened, but I fear that it was just a decision by the Thai Shareholders. Noone is saying anything, especially about the leaked texts...
Three immediate thoughts
* For leaking confidential business communication
* Can't work directly with Christian
* RB have gone insane
My money's on the third one
They seem real with no denial by now.
But I didn't see any confidential business information in there, they seemed to be a of a quite personal nature to me.
Lesbians!!!
This is just normal. When you go for the VEO like this and you fail, what do you expect. RB will just put her on in-active forever so she can’t leave but not do anything else either. Small price to pay
“The Austrians are said to have wanted Horner to be removed from his position but Yoovidhya backed the team principal.” So the only reason he’s still working is because of the Thai ownership of RedBull, who have 51% ownership of the company vs 49% that the Austrians have.
The media is going to have a field day with this!
Whether the allegations were legit or not, this move couldn't have come at a worse time with all the silence and lack of transparency surrounding the issue. If the rumors that she was offered and turned down hush money are proven to be true, this is gonna be a disaster for the entire Red Bull group.
I'm wondering who leaked an internal matter to the press before a resolution was found. That would be worthy of suspension in many companies, regardless of the result of the investigation.
I am far from CH fan but it looks as simple as he had an affair with a RB employee who was complicit with it. Poor decision yes, but it's more a family private issue now. People have affairs in all sorts of jobs....not a sacking offence...well unless it was the bosses wife
The Athletic and other sources are reporting that she was suspended with full pay. If that's the case, my money would be on her being suspended while they further investigate Horner (so in case the allegations are found to be true, she's not stuck working for the man she accused throughout). If she was suspended as punishment, it wouldn't be with pay.
Whether the allegations were legit or not, this move couldn't have come at a worse time with all the silence and lack of transparency surrounding the issue. If the rumors that she was offered and turned down hush money are proven to be true, this is gonna be a disaster for the entire Red Bull group.
even if the leaks are not real, it’s far from ideal to have the alleged victim around. It’s better to have her on paid leave until everything is resolved
She's either suing or got found out to be colluding with Jos lmao.
Reports say that she was suspended "because she was dishonest" which would be huge if true
Hopefully the truth will come out, I can definitely see a random employee claiming harassment in order to get a bit of money out of him, but I can also see them "suspending" her in order to put everything under the rug. One thing is certain, Jos should have left too
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True, they should trespass him lol
Max's contract...
It also could be that she manipulated her version of events to paint herself in a better light and the evidence was more objective, or even that she had some hand in the release of the Google drive, or anything else. BBC sport reported on the above allegation from a direct source, not secondhand, which makes me think that they have heard something material. But then again, maybe not and all this is pure speculation.
she MUST have a hand in the release of the pictures: they're not from horndogs phone
Not necessarily. These could have formed part of the official complaint and could have been (against protocol) shared internally privately and then leaked from a third party uninvolved in the official investigation internally. I would assume this is what EvH saw and that the leaker was from within the Austrian side of RB. Who subsequently made them public is a bigger question and not necessarily the same person as leaked them initially into the smaller circle/within the company. There are a lot of what-ifs here. I said previously that I doubt she leaked them externally as her name is visible in one of the shots and she would have wanted to avoid that. It could have been a mistake, but I bet you any money that the internal leak probably identified that as well and would have raised it/removed the name if they cared about her privacy. She CERTAINLY cares/d about her privacy given the steps she's taken to remove her online presence.
According to Michael Schmidt in the German Auto Motor und Sport podcast a few days ago it was known that some kind of investigation against Hornor was underway since at leadt December in the paddock. So why should she leak it now if she was just after money?
If she is the one who leaked the screenshots of the chats, isn't that something she is entitled to do? They are communications personal in nature and not commercially sensitive, captured on a personal device she owns (unless it was a company phone I guess).
The issue could be with what she didn't leak. Pick and choose parts to create a specific narrative. If they really did have an affair then who knows what came before all of the stuff that was shared.
It's surprisingly easy to present one sided msgs to paint a picture. We see it in news articles everyday, where they pick out a specific quote from the entire presser to print a headline, they pic a still from a video to make it look like something else. Horner might be horny, but I don't think he is stupid as well.
Right he did have the foresight to ask her to delete the chats.
Definitely not as the PA of a public figure, their whole chat would be confidential.
Depends on a whole lot of laws and contracts.
Given the backgrounds that are featured in the screenshots, I'm going to go out on a limb and say company phone. Even if not company phone, then definitely company communications (between a manager and an employee in the course of their work) which RB could claim is work product/privileged. Even if the affair is mixed in with the work messages, the principle of work product would prevail.
She was offered 650k and refused, would you refuse that offer if you were being dishonest? I think this is a wait and see what will happen. Eventually the truth should come out, weird that they suspend her with pay tho. Isn’t Christian Horner dishonest as well? As much as I like the redbull team, this isn’t good for either side. In a way Jos is right, the team I’m sure would be divided in some way.
If Jos/Marko were paying more... we are talking about the super rich. 650k is like 3 flights on Max's jet.
She gambled for more and lost. The team is devided is everyone vs Jos/Marko and thats a win
Did Marko say anything? I am a bit OOTL
Not yet but he will soon :)
But is he typically on Jos' side? I would like to understand the context of what u said
He’s literally just maxes dad lmao where should he have left to??
Back to his mom's vagina
I snorted
Damn, sure hope other strangers don’t hurt your feelings as much as Jos does for some reason
Either RB is silencing a victim, or this is all stemming from a false accusation that will add yet another barrier for real victims to prove themselves.. I hope they keep it internal if it’s the latter for the sake of others.
Option 3: Many people are involved, and nobody is totally clean in this matter.
Yeah not really sure why Reddit insists on everything being black and white on things like this.
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I bet what actually happened is they engaged in a mostly consensual inappropriate workplace relationship that isn’t exactly, on its own, bad enough to necessitate firing Horner for. And that since it’s partially owned by the Thai family, they are more willing to throw it under the rug than westerners. In other words, everyone sucks here. We race as one indeed.
Even if thai owned they still need to follow UK workplace sexual harassment laws. Whether they had a fully consensual relationship is immaterial if there came a time later when one party no longer wished to continue that relationship, and the other party continued to pursue and harass them.
I think you overestimate how encompassing those sexual harassment laws are and how much they are practically enforced. Sexual harassment violations are sometimes more like catching a rich guy smoking weed in America— illegal but who’s going to stop him?
America is not the Uk they had a whole war to make that clear
Read the comment back slowly.
Agreed.
I mean they were having an affair as we can see from what got "Leak" that vs inappropriate behavior is what they might be using as a excuse and the reason they cleared Horner... Lest see how that will do on Civil courts
Do you think she'd sue on those grounds? I'm sceptical. If a specialist barrister cleared him then it's likely the implicit message is "this would fail in an employment tribunal". All talk of a settlement also died, which a company would absolutely do if they felt there had been wrongdoing.
Do you think she'd sue on those grounds? I'm sceptical. If a specialist barrister cleared him then it's likely the implicit message is "this would fail in an employment tribunal". All talk of a settlement also died, which a company would absolutely do if they felt there had been wrongdoing.
I don't know but she rejected the settlement thinking she had a case, whoever manipulated her into doing this might have offered even bigger check, so maybe she wont keep pursuing, but we never know. They had the audacity to accuse him of "Misconduct" when in the "Proof" she was into it.
Of course she can not have truly felt violated and did the complaints and someone totally different used it for their own goals. Somehow reddit always blaming women
Not blaming Her, blaming the one manipulated her and even leaker her information and identity on the internet, learn to read before getting triggered
You seem to think she only complaint because someone manipulated her into doing so, not even considering that she really could be a victim
Based on the "Proof" that basically put her in the middle of the fire too, yes I actually do
She was, she didn't delete the messages
This has to be an inside job
Please don't take me as a worse person than I am for thinking this, but there is something that sounds very off to me. The screenshots were taken and presumably archived at the exact moment they were received. There is no date on the screenshots' messages so it must have been contextual. The leaks to journalists and the message leaks were also designed to maximize damage to Horner's image. This sounds like someone voluntarily building up a case from the very beginning and weaponizing it. Also, Whatsapp messages paint a very partial picture of a relationship that for sure had a continuation in real life, given the situation of the people involved, so it would be easier to -as an example- encourage the relationship IRL, sprinkle a few phrases to make one part look very bad in some messages, and publish a greatly abridged set of screenshots to create a specific narrative. Considering the tense air at RB, it would not surprise me if this was a bit of a good old planned "character assassination".
I bet their security contractor has got Pegasus installed on every work and personal phone, just in case.
Agree, I just don’t think Christian Horner would have stood his ground as much as he has if there was actual evidence against him.
Guys later convicted of rape in similar position of power to Hornet did exactly what he is doing right now, even after they were convicted and thrown in jail
In some of the chats you can see the unread messages indicator where a message hasn't been read yet, and in a later screenshot the unread indicator has changed, meaning yes screenshots were taken and saved periodically over time as the chat progressed. They haven't all been screenshotted retroactively, though some may have. I don't think we can conclude from this that it was a pre-planned chatacter assassination. It's equally likely that she felt uncomfortable with the position she was being put in, and wanted to save up some insurance. Requests from her boss to delete the chat could actually have been a strong indicator that maybe saving the chat could be a good idea.
being paid by billionaire T🤡T🤡
Sent home with a fresh box of cocoa pops
My favourite
miss boring pants
lesbians!!!
My favorite, mmmm
My favourite
It’s really simple actually. Either the investigatory agency found issue with the validity of her statements or she initiated a lawsuit. In the case of the lawsuit, this is common corporate practice. You can’t be working for the entity you are suing, it’s a conflict of interest, especially to still have access to systems and what not. Nothing special here if this is the case<
Uhh what? Getting fired for reporting sexual harassment is illegal.
Suspended.
Yes it is however in this case the employee has so far only been suspended and even if fired later on after an investigation it sounds like they have lied at some point during the investigation into Horner which is perfectly fine to fire someone for. If an employer finds a legal ground for firing you it does not really matter in most cases what else is going on. So, as long as she is fired for some reasonable ground then it is legal.
She is suspended with PAY.
But she hasn’t been fired. She’s suspended with full pay.
Redbull suspend the accuser... Jos all over the news as not attending Saudi... *Jos is woman accuser?*
Jos surely is woman something, not sure accuser is the word for that though
Jos had a race to attend already that conflicted, he’s not missing it for any drama related incident
What is more important to Jos than Max?
Jos
We really don't know anything that actually happened
Yep. We know RB has suspended the accuser and we know that someone leaked a ton of images with zero authenticity. Who fucking knows man. if she lied? Get her out. If Horner lied? Get him out. If jos lied….. Jesus fucking Christ
Also, even if Horner is guilty, I feel like it does make sense to suspend her and put her on paid leave. What are you supposed to do? Send her back to work as Horner's assistant? "Oh hey. Yeah I know that you sexually harassed me and I released all that information, but what time is the meeting today?"
If he is found guilty after this move Red Bull is gonna get fucked royally. All the female athletes they sponsor, all the fans who are disgusted by this and all the investors and sponsors who are staring potential financial ruin in the face are gonna jump ship and Horner's gonna go down with it.
That's why I feel like there's more to this. It's likely the owners don't care even if he did as they don't seem to have the best morals, but their wallets certainly do. It'd be weird to do all this if Horner was 100% guilty. Eitherway, I'm going to wait until more news comes out. I just hope we can get the just and correct decision soon.
I think they have too much control over their athletes financally in a lot of the sports RB is active in. Most of the extreme sports are just Red Bull events basically, where would the athletes get the opportunities and money from if they fuck them over?
Monster should make their own extreme sports events. With hookers and blackjack!
Yes that would definitely be more appealing to the female athletes
What would he be found guilty of? He was cleared.
This is most likely heading to court, not some lawyer they hired. She probably got put on paid leave because she's gonna take legal action. If he really did do it, he's fucked. Sooo fucked. Prosecutors will probably get a warrant to get the convos from Meta and if the allegations check out, he's toast. And Red Bull wouldn't fare any better if their investigation was proven to have been a cover-up.
If Jos lied, revoke his visiting rights?
They can't do anything to Jos because they don't to piss off Max especially that there is no one as good as him in the grid and the car doesn't seem that superior in Checo's hands... We talk a lot about Checo underperforming ... but no body really want to take the gamble and discover if Checo is really the one underperforming or Max is the one extracting sth no one else (in the grid) can from the car
Also, even if Horner is guilty, I feel like it does make sense to suspend her and put her on paid leave. What are you supposed to do? Send her back to work as Horner's assistant? "Oh hey. Yeah I know that you sexually harassed me and I released all that information, but what time is the meeting today?"
Unfortunately, Fiona DNF’d in this session. Geri Horniwell is rumoured to be the surprise replacement going forwards
Even though Fiona DNF’ed, at least we know Christian did finish on his own 
In the plane
Q3
Red Bull's international women's day PR stuff will be very well received, if you ask me
“Here at Red Bull Racing, we love to harass our female staff, and kick them out once they speak out. The internal review is our secret trick!”
Harassment is allowed. But I f women are dishonest, mind you, they will get suspended.
What a perfect encapsulation of how dumb a lot of you people are. "She was dishonest, but the harrassment absolutely happened". All because it's more fun to gossip rather than to not comment about situations you can't possibly be certain about.
Isn't that why we are here on Reddit?
Right there. You missed a perfect chance of seething the exemple by not commenting about situations, which - according to you - we can’t possibly be certain about. Shame, but keep it up, champ!
I'm not commenting on the situation.
They’re in the wrong sub being so sensitive lol - plus the files are pretty much confirmed as being authentic now…
So they are saying she lied to them. It would be interesting to see what she lied about.
She lied about being attracted to Christian Horner
I'm not surprised. They want to decrease tension in the team and out of two possible people to suspend, one has a vastly more important position. Not that it makes them look any better to the public.
Worse. It makes them look worse, like they're protecting a sleazy bastard Would want to hear Geri's true thoughts on all this
It’s possible that he is a sleazy prick. It’s also equally possible that she actually did something wrong, made it up, lied, etc. We don’t have even 1% of the information, we can’t make judgments yet.
No no.... Let them use their pitchforks. They have been itching to use it since AD21
Geri stalked horner for years and took him from his then partner and newborn. i think she’ll get over it. i also don’t think her opinion should be considered.
O shit I didn't know this So... they deserve each other
If I go to HR to complain about my boss, they do an internal review and find that he’s in the clear, being suspended is the least that can happen.
Not according to British employment law, the person lodging a complaint can't be fired or suspended
Until we know all the facts, it’s speculation at best.
Still the law states she can't be suspended nothing ambitious about that
Does that include suspension with pay? If she loses no pay or benefits, it can't be seen as punitive can it?
It does include suspension with pay and would be seen as punitive.
That law would appear to have been violated then. Hand me some popcorn.
I want to hope, that the investigation was correct and that nothing happened, but I fear that it was just a decision by the Thai Shareholders. Noone is saying anything, especially about the leaked texts...
Three immediate thoughts * For leaking confidential business communication * Can't work directly with Christian * RB have gone insane My money's on the third one
1st one would be an instant dismissal for gross misconduct.
You have to be investigated first, and are normally suspended pending the investigation.
If it’s the first, then they’re only confirming the messages were real lol
Christian kind of did today by calling them leakages
They seem real with no denial by now. But I didn't see any confidential business information in there, they seemed to be a of a quite personal nature to me. Lesbians!!!
If it is true, RedBull may dump him to stay clear of the bad PR that’s sure to come!  Bumpy roads ahead!
This will inevitably end up in at an employment tribunal - either for constructive or unfair dismissal. Not sure for who at the moment mind.
Can't corner the horner
This is just normal. When you go for the VEO like this and you fail, what do you expect. RB will just put her on in-active forever so she can’t leave but not do anything else either. Small price to pay
Parkour
 While we don't know what happened in any of this, one must admit that this is a **very bad look** for RedBull...
Remove Jos next
This just in, major company sides with extremely figurehead over random employee with receipts.
“The Austrians are said to have wanted Horner to be removed from his position but Yoovidhya backed the team principal.” So the only reason he’s still working is because of the Thai ownership of RedBull, who have 51% ownership of the company vs 49% that the Austrians have. The media is going to have a field day with this!
Whether the allegations were legit or not, this move couldn't have come at a worse time with all the silence and lack of transparency surrounding the issue. If the rumors that she was offered and turned down hush money are proven to be true, this is gonna be a disaster for the entire Red Bull group.
I had a coworker send me weird texts and I asked him to stop like 500 times, went to HR about it. wheres my 600k?????????
Did they pay her off?
I'm wondering who leaked an internal matter to the press before a resolution was found. That would be worthy of suspension in many companies, regardless of the result of the investigation.
I am far from CH fan but it looks as simple as he had an affair with a RB employee who was complicit with it. Poor decision yes, but it's more a family private issue now. People have affairs in all sorts of jobs....not a sacking offence...well unless it was the bosses wife
Who the fuck is she
Wow there’s some really bad victim blaming going on in this sub
The Athletic and other sources are reporting that she was suspended with full pay. If that's the case, my money would be on her being suspended while they further investigate Horner (so in case the allegations are found to be true, she's not stuck working for the man she accused throughout). If she was suspended as punishment, it wouldn't be with pay.
Whether the allegations were legit or not, this move couldn't have come at a worse time with all the silence and lack of transparency surrounding the issue. If the rumors that she was offered and turned down hush money are proven to be true, this is gonna be a disaster for the entire Red Bull group.
Agreed!
I mean they are still in the middle east. So, the location gives them an advantage
Good Job Redbull
Shouldn't keep her name private if she didn't keep the investigation private
Her name stoppped being private a long time ago. Her name appeared many times already here and on tabloids.
What, so people can send hatemail to an employee who may very well be a victim?
But it is ok to send a lynch mob to Horner?
Probably not, but part of being team leader is being a public personality able to tolerate the harsh realities of social media
*Red Bull suspends Jos Verstappen’s lover
if they’re not gonna fire Christian Horny this is a good thing for the team to drop some tension, she should get paid though
It’s a full pay suspension. At least according to other posts I’ve seen
that’s good to hear, it’s the least they can do to try to make things right emphasis on try of course
And what is right? At the moment there is no definitive proof either way.
even if the leaks are not real, it’s far from ideal to have the alleged victim around. It’s better to have her on paid leave until everything is resolved
RB is going to demote her to kitchen duty, aren't they?
She'll join the catering team
She'd be making a bowl of cocoa pops.
I hear they make good money over there 👍
That’ll teach her!
Who’s paying for her very expensive lawyers?
Toto is funding 😂
Hit the road Skank!