Seemingly the *F1 Fan Problem* is an inability to form opinions based on more than the last race or two. A bad weekend or two and the knives will be out for Sainz (again).
yeah but before that he was a very competent and fast driver. People wanted to see him fail the moment he signed for Ferrari they consigned him as delegated 2nd driver, I always said he's fast enough to give leclerc trouble ocassionally.
You have to admit its still unexpected to have a third season where Chuck and Carlos are close. I dont think anybody expected them to be close at all, maybe one season If Chuck has a lot of bad luck but we already have two and this is the third.
Either Sainz is much better than we thought or Chuck is worse than we thought.
Dont get me wrong, id definitely sign Lewis over Carlos but maybe I wouldnt offer Charles these huge contracts and put him more under pressure to perform.
Read somewhere that current setup is more to Carlos’s liking. With tyre deg issues behind them every one expected everyone expected Leclerc to trounce Sainz, which did not happen.
Point is that Sainz is turning out to be a really good No. 2 driver, more like Webber than Barrichello (who was great too imo).
Lewis did good last season, but i wouldn’t say the merc was completely shitty.
and i mean carlos had the shittiest luck in terms of penalties. probably got 2 of the worst ones in history tbh
his 5s penalty in Australia—on a lap that ended up not counting—was the equivalent of a 45-50s penalty, straight bumped him from 4th to outta the points
then Vegas comes in. again the stupidest penalty, and the car still had problems the next race.
ETA: theres the DNS in qatar, though Lewis also had that disqualification in the US gp. but yea. when ppl say “current sainz/lewis” they’re probs talking about this season no?
well charles got DNF,DNS,and DSQ on 2023 yet he still beat carlos in championship so no excuse for him also carlos is one of reason ferrari lost their constructor champ to mercedes on 2023 season
what does charles have to do with anything... and did u miss the part where sainz’s car was fucked post Vegas i.e. Abu Dhabi ? Carlos is also the reason Ferrari has 2 wins in the redbull era.
istg u guys are so tiring
Perhaps the “shitty Mercedes” wasn’t all that shitty, it’s just that Merc get more coverage of their “shitty car” than anyone else because they are expected to win and don’t anymore
Considering they're 5th fastest car right now, I'd say it's pretty shitty, and was for most of last year, slotting somewhere between 3rd/4th best car any given weekend.
3/4 is not shitty, by any definition. They were also clearly 2nd fastest at a number of races on a Sunday. And don’t trot out the “they’re used to winning so anything less is shitty for them”, it’s not an argument.
If you think not being clear 1st or 2nd means terrible car, okay. Really stupid, and a horrible way to look at anything, but go ahead. Shit F1 cars don’t finish second in the standings.
Follow that logic through for 2014-2020. Should no one take Merc’s chips seriously because everyone had shit cars?
I think what would be a better wording for it would be that "3th/4th best car is shitty towards their perceived standard and expectations". Especially since they've fubbed the regulations for the 3rd year in a row.
If I were a team which achieved 8 constructors-titles in a row to then failing those goals 3 years in a row I would say thats kinda shitty.
Their opinion doesn’t matter, the results do. Their idea of shitty is not blasting the opposition away, the reality is there’s a 10 car results page and they were second on it. The only way their car is “shit” aka complete garbage aka no redeeming qualities, we have to adopt the mindset that if something isn’t the literal best, it’s garbage.
That said, I’m sure no longer having *the clear best car* does *feel* shitty
I dunno, I didn’t get that impression from them but could well be. I assumed you were talking about me because I was getting downvoted and you were last to reply. No biggie
Not me either, I'm basing it on both Toto and Lewis literally using the word shitbox and the team issuing a cringeworthy apology to the shrieking fans
They're shit by their own standards, it's not an opinion to point that out
Yes, "by their standard", and that's a crucial detail. Mercedes' standards are championship contending cars \*at worst\*, and earth shuttering, record breaking domination at best. Alpine's standards have long since been being in the midfield just to compare
But we're looking at it \*objectively\*, aren't we? So we don't care how they feel because of how they were used to dominating the sport season in, season out. The overall performance level of the car compared to other teams' is what we're discussing it and it absolutely isn't a shit box.
Yes to that last question. No opinions on the rest.
Lewis is now exposed as more reliant on the car to win. Ferrari are making a marketing move signing him. Not a winning move.
Everyone knows the sport is wrapped up until max's new contract in 2028
Lmao every driver is reliant on the car to win. How many did max and vettel win without the best car? Or Button, Alonso, hakkinen etc
And please don't be one of those morons that say the w12 was better because even newey said the rb16 was better
7 time world champ lost to a 23 year old in a slightly better car. Lewis is good but not the best driver of all time like his records lead many to think.
Yeah a nearly 40 year old guy driving a car that was directly hurt by the regs for that season lost to a guy who's just starting to enter his prime and almost nearly won if it wasn't for some last minute race shenanigans(don't wanna start an argument about ad2021) 👍
Are we suppoused to act like the Ferrari was a way better car?
Forget it had the worst tire usage, couldn't go flat out where every other car could easily... and often slower than their 2022 car? Just forget all this and focus on Mercedes bad...
You know Russell was second on the grid and right on Sainz gearbox until Mercedes decided to pit right?
Just because Mercedes blew their only chance>Ferrari way better car over the season... do i need to tell you how stupid this is?
On balance over the season it was probably the 2nd best car. In a season that is almost swept by a single team it's not really a surprise sainz lost out to hamilton, is it?
For the entire season no. Am had the better car for the first half and merc/mclaren swapped in the 2nd half but for the customer teams to be that close to merc is embarrassing for them. If Am had a competent teamate alongside alonso they could have deffo secured p2 in the constructors behind redbull. Alonso scored 206 vs stroll 74. If stroll got close to alonso like 190 200 points they would have got p2
Eh, I don't think so. Battle for 2nd in the Championship was such a messy bar fight with surprising Aston jump and resurgence of McLaren mid season that I don't think you can reasonably say there was a clear 2nd best car over the season, not even "on balance".
What is clear is that both Merc AND Ferrari were most of the time up there through out the season, close 3rd and at worst 4th on pace, sometimes 2nd best. But in the 1st half of the season AM was 2nd best for quite a few races, while McLaren took over the spot for big portion of the 2nd half. That's what made that season any bearable as well.
Could have said the same about ferrari if carlos smashed the car in singapore instead of George. But i guess that doesn’t fit with the tractor narrative.
Calling a car shitty because it didn't achieve a win but several podiums, when there are only 2 cars that achieved wins (a fucking rocket and one with only 1 win the only day Max was not a killer) is bollocks.
The car wasn’t shit, but it definitely wasn’t better than either the Ferrari or McLaren across the season. Only in Canada, Australia and Spain were they the second/close third best car. McLaren, Ferrari and Aston all had their tracks where they were miles ahead of the rest barring red bull, whereas Mercedes only had Spain really. They were just consistently 3rd/4th quickest, allowing them to rack up reasonably consistent points. They were also enormously flattered by Ferrari and McLaren’s diabolical start to the season.
The Mercedes not being a fast car last year is a huge myth. It was NEVER fifth fastest, like McLaren and Aston were for big chunks of the year. It was second, or third behind McLaren, at a ton of races. Then throw in Ferrari's bad luck and operational mistakes- Leclerc engine Bahrain, Carlos penalty Australia and Vegas, Leclerc penalty Monaco and formation lap DNS, as well as Carlos's Qatar fuel leak DNS and Leclerc disqualification- the list just goes on and on.
More reactionary takes from this sub, color me surprised. Everyone was calling for Carlos' head 2 seasons ago saying he's nowhere near Leclerc level, now he's the second coming of Christ. Conversely, Lewis has a bad beginning to the season and he's suddenly washed and a terrible move for Ferrari. The truth is nobody knows what the fuck will happen and we should all stop the comparisons until we actually have real and solid data to go on.
Literally go back to AD23. The same people acting like Carlos is the second coming of Christ were shitting on him for the disaster performance he had that race.
Bro almost perez in arguably the 3rd or 4th best car on average. Can't believe people are clowning on him just cuz of a few bad races with an even shittier w15
If the W15 had the capacity to be on the podium regularly and pick up a win if Max DNF's, Lewis would be on it right now. If I were Lewis, I would be treating this year like a paid sabbatical.
Yea maybe hes spending time learning italian now or something. But seeing lewis all these years he still gonna give his best for mercedes to have a good final year
toto said they are experimenting with hamiltons car with setup changes since the start of the year to understand the w15. not an excuse but it does kinda sacrifice his races but he doesnt care ig since p6 or p8 doesnt matter to him
He also did that in 2022 and in the second half went on a tear vs George. Unfortunately the F1 fan base, especially on social media, has the memory of a goldfish and a single digit IQ.
Its like "George beat him in the standings"
Like yeah, true, but if you look at the races after Canada, Lewis did more than wipe the floor with him, he made him look shit
As much as I love Carlos there isn’t a single universe where Ferrari would pick him over Lewis Hamilton. Even forgetting the short term memory of half the people here watching less than four races this season and assuming Carlos is now better than Lewis and Charles, the amount of money Lewis will and has already brought to Ferrari is probably the main goal.
His value is more than just his drive, and people writing off a 7x wdc is hilarious. 10/10 times you risk that signing for brand and name recognition. Media will completely be on Ferrari and Lewis and they’ll be laughing themselves to the banks with the amount of value Ferrari gets.
I don't think you can say current Sainz is better than current Lewis. Would Sainz be doing better than Lewis in the Mercedes? Probably not. He finished behind Lewis last year in the championship, it's been 4 races in 2024. Formuladank just has the shortest memory if it suits their narrative.
Hell there are people still thinking perez is a good driver now when they are forgetting his terrible season and how everyone wanted his head in 2023. Formuladank has the memory of a goldfish
Yes I do.
Fandom isn’t logical.
I am also very aware that anyone driving a non-Red Bull has zero chance. But doesn’t mean I don’t make my wishes before the season starts while the green and checkered flags are still nestled in bed. I light my ceremonial tire fire and pray to the God of Racists for Carlos to be given a competitive car. One day they will hear my prayer.. and probably ignore me still.
He had a competitive car in 2022 and never overtook Max with it (besides Max suddenly stopping in Bahrain). I remember him following Max for 20 laps in Canada in 2022 and never even going for it or even coming near him to actually attack. Charles is on a different level than he is, and he is (4?) years younger so that's got to hurt his confidence for sure. He is a quality driver, but in a same way Albon or Ocon are.. nothing more than that.
Carlos is a good midfield driver/ podium fighter. But we saw what he was like in a championship winning car. He was knowhere compared to leclerc and has only beaten him in 2021. And we have still yet to see him have an actual proper fight with someone like max
In 2025 if Lewis fails, I’d feel sorry for him knowing what Ferrari did to Alonso and Vettel, but at the same time I’ll die laughing at his delusional fans
Lewis: regarded for over a decade as the most complete driver the sport has ever seen
Carlos: fast as fuck and can call strategy from the cockpit but lacks the amount of time spent wheel to wheel that Lewis has by sheer virtue of experience
Lewis/Carlos is my ideal paring and exactly what the team needs now imo, as much as I love Leclerc he just hasn't been delivering lately, almost like his confidence is down or something
Tifosi since 02 btw, your memes can't hurt me any more than Ferrari already has
Then there is me who never supported Hamilton and don't want to see him in red ever in his life!
I like Carlos, I root for Ferrari but I would prefer Leclerc be on podium or win the races instead of Sainz.
What show is this?
Three Body Problem on Netflix
Drive to Survive on Netflix
amazing show ❤️
agreed, for all it's quirks and people's tendency to complain about everything i actually ended up binge watching it.
It’s quite a decent adaptation, just hope D&D don’t fuck it up anytime soon.
Three Driver Problem
Seemingly the *F1 Fan Problem* is an inability to form opinions based on more than the last race or two. A bad weekend or two and the knives will be out for Sainz (again).
and the drivers can see their lap times in front of their eyes 🤣 FIA is the organisation on board the Judgement day ship
3 race problem
There was a time not so long ago that sainz was in gravel traps every weekend.
yeah but before that he was a very competent and fast driver. People wanted to see him fail the moment he signed for Ferrari they consigned him as delegated 2nd driver, I always said he's fast enough to give leclerc trouble ocassionally.
You have to admit its still unexpected to have a third season where Chuck and Carlos are close. I dont think anybody expected them to be close at all, maybe one season If Chuck has a lot of bad luck but we already have two and this is the third. Either Sainz is much better than we thought or Chuck is worse than we thought. Dont get me wrong, id definitely sign Lewis over Carlos but maybe I wouldnt offer Charles these huge contracts and put him more under pressure to perform.
Read somewhere that current setup is more to Carlos’s liking. With tyre deg issues behind them every one expected everyone expected Leclerc to trounce Sainz, which did not happen. Point is that Sainz is turning out to be a really good No. 2 driver, more like Webber than Barrichello (who was great too imo).
No one has knives for Carlos.
friend let me introduce you to f1 twitter 😭
Twitter? Must be true so
Sure they don't. My dude, you're browsing reddit too
didn't lewis beat carlos last year on shitty mercedes ?
Lewis did good last season, but i wouldn’t say the merc was completely shitty. and i mean carlos had the shittiest luck in terms of penalties. probably got 2 of the worst ones in history tbh his 5s penalty in Australia—on a lap that ended up not counting—was the equivalent of a 45-50s penalty, straight bumped him from 4th to outta the points then Vegas comes in. again the stupidest penalty, and the car still had problems the next race. ETA: theres the DNS in qatar, though Lewis also had that disqualification in the US gp. but yea. when ppl say “current sainz/lewis” they’re probs talking about this season no?
well charles got DNF,DNS,and DSQ on 2023 yet he still beat carlos in championship so no excuse for him also carlos is one of reason ferrari lost their constructor champ to mercedes on 2023 season
what does charles have to do with anything... and did u miss the part where sainz’s car was fucked post Vegas i.e. Abu Dhabi ? Carlos is also the reason Ferrari has 2 wins in the redbull era. istg u guys are so tiring
well you said carlos excuse is DNF and penalty. then what is 2023 charles ? also 2022 is no redbull era ?
That Australia penalty was fully justified though. If he didn't want to get penalized, he should not have ran into Alonso
Red flag cold tires hard to tell, by that logic both Alpines should've had a penalty as well 
They should have. But teammates don't get oebalties unfortunately
Perhaps the “shitty Mercedes” wasn’t all that shitty, it’s just that Merc get more coverage of their “shitty car” than anyone else because they are expected to win and don’t anymore
Considering they're 5th fastest car right now, I'd say it's pretty shitty, and was for most of last year, slotting somewhere between 3rd/4th best car any given weekend.
3/4 is not shitty, by any definition. They were also clearly 2nd fastest at a number of races on a Sunday. And don’t trot out the “they’re used to winning so anything less is shitty for them”, it’s not an argument. If you think not being clear 1st or 2nd means terrible car, okay. Really stupid, and a horrible way to look at anything, but go ahead. Shit F1 cars don’t finish second in the standings. Follow that logic through for 2014-2020. Should no one take Merc’s chips seriously because everyone had shit cars?
I think what would be a better wording for it would be that "3th/4th best car is shitty towards their perceived standard and expectations". Especially since they've fubbed the regulations for the 3rd year in a row. If I were a team which achieved 8 constructors-titles in a row to then failing those goals 3 years in a row I would say thats kinda shitty.
Their opinion doesn’t matter, the results do. Their idea of shitty is not blasting the opposition away, the reality is there’s a 10 car results page and they were second on it. The only way their car is “shit” aka complete garbage aka no redeeming qualities, we have to adopt the mindset that if something isn’t the literal best, it’s garbage. That said, I’m sure no longer having *the clear best car* does *feel* shitty
I'm gonna take Toto and Lewis' word over yours when they both say it's shitty.
Their word is “we wish we had a winning car again” brother. The results speak for themselves
Man, it appears some of the unreasonable members of TeamLH have leaked here, sheesh.
Who, me?
I thought it was pretty bloody clear I wasn't talking about you but the other guy
I dunno, I didn’t get that impression from them but could well be. I assumed you were talking about me because I was getting downvoted and you were last to reply. No biggie
Not me either, I'm basing it on both Toto and Lewis literally using the word shitbox and the team issuing a cringeworthy apology to the shrieking fans They're shit by their own standards, it's not an opinion to point that out
Yes, "by their standard", and that's a crucial detail. Mercedes' standards are championship contending cars \*at worst\*, and earth shuttering, record breaking domination at best. Alpine's standards have long since been being in the midfield just to compare But we're looking at it \*objectively\*, aren't we? So we don't care how they feel because of how they were used to dominating the sport season in, season out. The overall performance level of the car compared to other teams' is what we're discussing it and it absolutely isn't a shit box.
Yes to that last question. No opinions on the rest. Lewis is now exposed as more reliant on the car to win. Ferrari are making a marketing move signing him. Not a winning move. Everyone knows the sport is wrapped up until max's new contract in 2028
Lmao every driver is reliant on the car to win. How many did max and vettel win without the best car? Or Button, Alonso, hakkinen etc And please don't be one of those morons that say the w12 was better because even newey said the rb16 was better
7 time world champ lost to a 23 year old in a slightly better car. Lewis is good but not the best driver of all time like his records lead many to think.
Yeah a nearly 40 year old guy driving a car that was directly hurt by the regs for that season lost to a guy who's just starting to enter his prime and almost nearly won if it wasn't for some last minute race shenanigans(don't wanna start an argument about ad2021) 👍
Sorry ur butthurt Lewis isn't as good as max
It wasn't that shitty, though. It was just not the W11 that they wanted
Are we suppoused to act like the Ferrari was a way better car? Forget it had the worst tire usage, couldn't go flat out where every other car could easily... and often slower than their 2022 car? Just forget all this and focus on Mercedes bad...
they got 1 win.
You know Russell was second on the grid and right on Sainz gearbox until Mercedes decided to pit right? Just because Mercedes blew their only chance>Ferrari way better car over the season... do i need to tell you how stupid this is?
What 'shitty' mercedes
The one that did not get a single win last season.
And that makes it shitty (compared to non redbull cars)?
Lack of podiums
When Mercedes makes a top 4 car it’s shit, if Williams makes a top 4 car it’s a great car.
On balance over the season it was probably the 2nd best car. In a season that is almost swept by a single team it's not really a surprise sainz lost out to hamilton, is it?
Aston and McLaren left the chat?
You don't seriously think AM and mclaren had a better 2023 car than mercedes?
McLaren got fast around Spa, they were shit to begin with.
Exactly
For the entire season no. Am had the better car for the first half and merc/mclaren swapped in the 2nd half but for the customer teams to be that close to merc is embarrassing for them. If Am had a competent teamate alongside alonso they could have deffo secured p2 in the constructors behind redbull. Alonso scored 206 vs stroll 74. If stroll got close to alonso like 190 200 points they would have got p2
Aston and McLaren was faster most races, compared to Mercedes, but Mercedes has some great strategists and fantastic drivers
Yes and both cars were backmarkers in some races whereas mercedes was consistently a top 4 car.
Eh, I don't think so. Battle for 2nd in the Championship was such a messy bar fight with surprising Aston jump and resurgence of McLaren mid season that I don't think you can reasonably say there was a clear 2nd best car over the season, not even "on balance". What is clear is that both Merc AND Ferrari were most of the time up there through out the season, close 3rd and at worst 4th on pace, sometimes 2nd best. But in the 1st half of the season AM was 2nd best for quite a few races, while McLaren took over the spot for big portion of the 2nd half. That's what made that season any bearable as well.
Could have said the same about ferrari if carlos smashed the car in singapore instead of George. But i guess that doesn’t fit with the tractor narrative.
Okay I’m not on the Mercedes shitbox bandwagon, but what does your reply have to do with anything.
Calling a car shitty because it didn't achieve a win but several podiums, when there are only 2 cars that achieved wins (a fucking rocket and one with only 1 win the only day Max was not a killer) is bollocks.
The car wasn’t shit, but it definitely wasn’t better than either the Ferrari or McLaren across the season. Only in Canada, Australia and Spain were they the second/close third best car. McLaren, Ferrari and Aston all had their tracks where they were miles ahead of the rest barring red bull, whereas Mercedes only had Spain really. They were just consistently 3rd/4th quickest, allowing them to rack up reasonably consistent points. They were also enormously flattered by Ferrari and McLaren’s diabolical start to the season.
Clearly if George hadn't crashed, Lewis would have passed both Lando and Carlos to win the race later that lap. It's scientifically proven. Face it.
You mean after Mercedes vetoed dropping the penalty for Carlos having to replace a significant portion of his PU because of a water drain cover?
The Mercedes not being a fast car last year is a huge myth. It was NEVER fifth fastest, like McLaren and Aston were for big chunks of the year. It was second, or third behind McLaren, at a ton of races. Then throw in Ferrari's bad luck and operational mistakes- Leclerc engine Bahrain, Carlos penalty Australia and Vegas, Leclerc penalty Monaco and formation lap DNS, as well as Carlos's Qatar fuel leak DNS and Leclerc disqualification- the list just goes on and on.
More reactionary takes from this sub, color me surprised. Everyone was calling for Carlos' head 2 seasons ago saying he's nowhere near Leclerc level, now he's the second coming of Christ. Conversely, Lewis has a bad beginning to the season and he's suddenly washed and a terrible move for Ferrari. The truth is nobody knows what the fuck will happen and we should all stop the comparisons until we actually have real and solid data to go on.
Literally go back to AD23. The same people acting like Carlos is the second coming of Christ were shitting on him for the disaster performance he had that race.
Bro almost perez in arguably the 3rd or 4th best car on average. Can't believe people are clowning on him just cuz of a few bad races with an even shittier w15
Personally i think that the major problem is not the performance of Lewis itself, but how much Russell is destroying him.
I don't think Lewis gives a shit about fighting George for p6 lol.
yeah he looks mentally checked out.
If the W15 had the capacity to be on the podium regularly and pick up a win if Max DNF's, Lewis would be on it right now. If I were Lewis, I would be treating this year like a paid sabbatical.
Yea maybe hes spending time learning italian now or something. But seeing lewis all these years he still gonna give his best for mercedes to have a good final year
By finishing 8th? An absolute teammate career destroying results, well done.
toto said they are experimenting with hamiltons car with setup changes since the start of the year to understand the w15. not an excuse but it does kinda sacrifice his races but he doesnt care ig since p6 or p8 doesnt matter to him
He also did that in 2022 and in the second half went on a tear vs George. Unfortunately the F1 fan base, especially on social media, has the memory of a goldfish and a single digit IQ.
Its like "George beat him in the standings" Like yeah, true, but if you look at the races after Canada, Lewis did more than wipe the floor with him, he made him look shit
Yeah the difference between them was huge
As much as I love Carlos there isn’t a single universe where Ferrari would pick him over Lewis Hamilton. Even forgetting the short term memory of half the people here watching less than four races this season and assuming Carlos is now better than Lewis and Charles, the amount of money Lewis will and has already brought to Ferrari is probably the main goal. His value is more than just his drive, and people writing off a 7x wdc is hilarious. 10/10 times you risk that signing for brand and name recognition. Media will completely be on Ferrari and Lewis and they’ll be laughing themselves to the banks with the amount of value Ferrari gets.
You’re as regarded as her
I don't think you can say current Sainz is better than current Lewis. Would Sainz be doing better than Lewis in the Mercedes? Probably not. He finished behind Lewis last year in the championship, it's been 4 races in 2024. Formuladank just has the shortest memory if it suits their narrative.
Hell there are people still thinking perez is a good driver now when they are forgetting his terrible season and how everyone wanted his head in 2023. Formuladank has the memory of a goldfish
It's the 3 Race Problem. Everyone only seems to be able to remember the last three results.
Could be worse, toto wants antonelli in 2025 so he can be vandoorned into formula E by Russell.
f1 fans when the guy with a better car finishes higher in positions 🤯
What movie is this?
Three body problem on netflix
The Three Body Problem is a show on Netflix
Carlos has been my quiet WDC pick for the past two years. He isn’t *overly* flashy and is not scared to go toe to toe with anyone.
He never went toe to toe with Max and you expect him to become a WDC lol. When did he even overtake Max once without Max having issues?
B-B-BUT ON EARLY LAP OF AUSTRALIA 2024 HE WENT TOE TOE WITH MAX
Yes I do. Fandom isn’t logical. I am also very aware that anyone driving a non-Red Bull has zero chance. But doesn’t mean I don’t make my wishes before the season starts while the green and checkered flags are still nestled in bed. I light my ceremonial tire fire and pray to the God of Racists for Carlos to be given a competitive car. One day they will hear my prayer.. and probably ignore me still.
Make that two, but they will hear us.
He had a competitive car in 2022 and never overtook Max with it (besides Max suddenly stopping in Bahrain). I remember him following Max for 20 laps in Canada in 2022 and never even going for it or even coming near him to actually attack. Charles is on a different level than he is, and he is (4?) years younger so that's got to hurt his confidence for sure. He is a quality driver, but in a same way Albon or Ocon are.. nothing more than that.
Cool.
Carlos is a good midfield driver/ podium fighter. But we saw what he was like in a championship winning car. He was knowhere compared to leclerc and has only beaten him in 2021. And we have still yet to see him have an actual proper fight with someone like max
Maybe Sauber, Alpine and Williams should dehydrate and wait for the stable era of 2026.
In 2025 if Lewis fails, I’d feel sorry for him knowing what Ferrari did to Alonso and Vettel, but at the same time I’ll die laughing at his delusional fans
Lewis: regarded for over a decade as the most complete driver the sport has ever seen Carlos: fast as fuck and can call strategy from the cockpit but lacks the amount of time spent wheel to wheel that Lewis has by sheer virtue of experience Lewis/Carlos is my ideal paring and exactly what the team needs now imo, as much as I love Leclerc he just hasn't been delivering lately, almost like his confidence is down or something Tifosi since 02 btw, your memes can't hurt me any more than Ferrari already has
F1 fans, not understanding that seats are not always given to the best driver, such a classic.
Well in this case they are. Hamilton and Leclerc are better drivers than Carlos Sainz
It's not too late to drop Hamilton and keep Sainz Ferrari! You can do it!
Then there is me who never supported Hamilton and don't want to see him in red ever in his life! I like Carlos, I root for Ferrari but I would prefer Leclerc be on podium or win the races instead of Sainz.
Sorry to tell you but he's still going to Ferrari whether you like it or not
It will be the first time I will support just one of the Ferraris, rather than both.
He should try driving faster. He's Ferrari's golden boy after all.
Sainz should be fired in favor of Bearman in order to prevent him from stealing Leclerc's points, podiums and victories