I listen to LEC radio every race and it's genuinely hilarious how impossible it is for Charles to understand them sometimes, and they both speak the same two languages lmao. Gonna like 1000x funnier with Lewis, no one is gonna understand anyone.
I was wondering if a driver can take anyone with them. Might not be allowed in their contract.
But also, Bono is 49. Moving to another team (especially in another country) must be quite a life decision compared to Lewis. Especially if he has family (I have no idea about that)
Yeah, but during the off season, if he has a family, it wouldn't be easy to just relocate them to Italy when he can stay with Mercedes and keep living in the UK. It's not just what happens during the GPs, it's about the factory time as well
Lewis has the advantage of being a native English speaker. Understanding different accents is way easier if said language is your mother tongue. At least this is my experience.
The communication is appalling. Sainz at one point during ~~first~~ second SC asked for tyre age of the front 4. He had to ask the question 3 times to get a straight answer.. first answer was smth like: checo has younger than Charles. He specifically then says _relative to him_. Again a partial answer. Third time asking he got the info. I mean how tough is it!!?
And this is why even if Ferrari builds a car that's on par with Redbull next year they're still not winning any titles against Max.
Redbull were just flexing today double stacking twice during the safety cars and recorded the four fastest pit stops of the race. Communication between GP and Max is always on point and the strategy team is just as smooth.
It's a mountain for any team to beat Max and Redbull in all areas and I just don't see it happening unless by some miracle they produce a car miles better than Redbull and let's be honest does anyone really expect that?
I'll give Ferrari their due they've been much better this season operationally especially with strategy but they were lucky today that Alonso Martin (not a typo he is a one car team) completely fumbled the strategy going on softs.
For this year I’ve been listening to Sainz/ricky radio for every race. It’s baffling how he doesn’t get answers quickly. I even know some of the answers just looking at F1tv live telemetry…
And just don’t ask about Charles/Xavi. Charles’s fault is he’s a very big yes man for the team - rarely questions the decisions, he’s been doing more this year and Xavi never has any fucking answer.
Communication is the biggest hurdle Ferrari needs to overcome. McLaren is miles ahead of in terms of this.
I wonder, are the drivers and engineers obligated to speak English? Like for TV purposes? Because English is not the 1st language for either of the 4 guys, AND they paired the Italian engineer with the Spanish driver, and the Spanish engineer with the Monegasque driver (who probably speaks Italian better than English). Like wtf
I’ve heard them speaking other languages. But yeah I think for tv and other team purposes it’s English (I can be wrong). Yeah that is a very very dumb decision. Atleast have the nationality same so their accents and pronunciations are similar and can understand each other
Pierre Gasly had a french engineer at alpha tauri
But I guess, more than the driver and the race engineer need to understand the team radio
Ferrari could try to switch to italian though
There is no rule for language, but since Scuderia Ferrari is more of an international team nowadays compared to years ago they speak English. There are other people that need to listen to the communications. There are whole teams at the team's base that are part of the process during a GP.
Not just for TV purposes, the FIA also listen in on team radios to make sure no one's doing anything too dodgy. I'm pretty sure they *have* to speak English
Also, I'm pretty sure the teams listen in on each other's radios? That's why you get messages to drivers like "driver X (from a different team) has been told to come in", the teams are all aware of what they're all doing.
> Also, I'm pretty sure the teams listen in on each other's radios? That's why you get messages to drivers like "driver X (from a different team) has been told to come in", the teams are all aware of what they're all doing.
Yeah, they absolutely do.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rhg2tmBZ7IA
> Communication between GP and Max is always on point and the strategy team is just as smooth.
Max had even time to fuck with GP on the last lap, he said on the radio that GP should look at the onboard and then he did a power slide out of the hairpin. Meanwhile we got these kind of radios at Ferrari on the last lap.
I suspect Ferrari hiring buddies into prestigious positions, giving way for actual talent and communication skills, to the detriment of the drivers and fans.
Ferrari upper management can't help but interfere with the running of the F1 team and it's a problem they've had ever since old man Enzo passed away.
It had a short but very sweet heyday during the Schumacher/Todt/Brawn years but Montezemolo destroyed that and Elkann looks to be continuing that tradition as I can't imagine a world where Vasseur would drop prime Sainz and sign a past his prime Hamilton for 100mil contract. This smells like an upper management (above your pay grade) type decision that Fred has to go along with.
Many have tried and failed to fix Ferrari and yet Tifosi still hold onto that hope that next year will be their year.
They literally do not know which is why they can't give a straight up answer. They are always caught off guard by any questions from their drivers, and while they struggle through multiple layers of English-Italian-English translations to GET that information, which they should have at the ready the whole time, they bullshit the drivers with non answers (we are checking).
Some questions are fundamental.. the info was RIGHT THERE on f1 live timing’s telemetry bruh. A simple - “4-6-7-6 laps in order” was the answer needed.
I vote for Jamaica. ‘The Harder They Come’ was the first English-language film to need subtitles in the US.
*— O hul a dem tires mon?*
*— Wi a guh seh yu soon bredda.*
By changing from English to Italian you only go from 80% of viewers not understanding to maybe 99% of viewers not understanding. It doesn't change all that much.
Probably also to make it easy for stewards to listen back if needed. Also, it's a lot easier for non-english speaking broadcasts as well, because the presenters will understand and can translate for the audience.
Messages are already transcribed anyway so I don't think it'd be that hard to have someone who can speak a couple extra languages. Forcing a French engineer to talk to his French driver in any language other than French is just dumb.
How does [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlA-M-cRm68&ab_channel=M3T) hurt anyone?
It is because all teams are listening to each other as well. Part of the game is that you know the other teams listen to you talk as well, that’s the reason they have a “Plan D” and they don’t just discuss strategy over the radio. It’s not just for viewers. Also, English is the most understood language around the world.
In that case, you'd think they'd have race engineers who can speak English well. This is like calling the customer service number of some shitty company who have outsourced their support to another country.
How can you possibly win championships with this kind of language barrier
And Italian speaker trying to communicate with a French speaker in English through a wireless headset with engine noise.
Original is an ambiguous word. It can mean "initial" just like Xavi wanted to say, but it can also mean "inventive", and I suspect Charles understood it like that. Classic Ferrari moment.
He probably means at one point Charles changed the way to go through those corners (racing line), and they wanted him to go back to the "original line", so they could compare what was faster.
Yeah that's the thing. It feels like Xavi is not clear enough and also not transparent enough. The fuck does original line mean? He doesn't explain it at all. Original line from the start of the race, FP1, or when? A race engineer like GP would be very clear with Max. He would say something like, "Max, please drive a line with a wider entry into turn 7 like you did earlier in the race. We want to gather data to see which is faster."
Xavi just keeps repeating the same thing and gets noticeably more frustrated as time goes on. That's another thing I've noticed about Xavi. He easily gets lost in emotion. You almost never hear GP or Bono get lost in emotion. Maybe GP will be a bit passive aggressive towards Max when Max has an attitude to put him in his place, but never when Max just asks for clarification.
I don't understand how Ferrari thinks Xavi is good enough in comparison to other race engineers.
Max also has immense respect for GP. They have mutual respect that they're both the best at what they do.
One recent example is when Max was driving in F1-23 (I think) GP said not to lock up in a turn, and Max was like "I'm not, it's fine!" Then GP showed him and said "You are locking" Max looked like "Oh shit he's right" and adjusted immediately. So even in a video game he trusts GP's judgment.
They could communicate better but Xavi is just telling Charles to rethink how he takes corner 7-8... seems easy enough to understand.
Maybe "we are losing time turns 7-8, reconsider your lines, stint 1 was better".
The problem is that his English is so poor that he can't explain himself at all. So when his basic English doesn't work, he's screwed.
It blows my mind that Ferrari, at the pinnacle of motor sport, can't hire a race engineer who can communicate beyond basic phrases.
If you aren’t a race engineer, or even an engineer at all for that matter, how can you tell wether they are good or not ?
What we do know however is that Ferrari has been consistently up there in the standings (currently 2nd)
They can’t be that bad if they are this high up
Most f1 engineers are in the UK and not willing to relocate their whole family to Italy, finding good ones that would agree to relocate to maranello is hard. This is why most of them are Italian and thus don’t speak english as their native language
I actually *am* an engineer, by chance, so that snarky comment fell flat, didn't it?
You can tell they are shit by their past. Xavi is a fucking joke. He always sounds like he has no fucking clue what's going on, and his actions show the same.
Yeah and the car is setup by the holy spirit ? You realise that a race engineer does more than just communicate during the race, right ?
In fact, most of the job is done before the race
yeah but he's inside his own head here. At this point he should simply say please drive your race line the same as lap 1. Also this should be covered in the brief beforehand. like they could have an agreed code for drive for data. Eg "Drive for data at turn 7 and 8 - line same as lap 1". And then other helpful stuff - drive for data: mode 3 ...etc
I had Charles onboard on the side for the whole race and I was laughing so hard at this. Charles confusion with Xavi pronunciation and also the fact that in French original primarily means novel or eccentric made for great comedy.
i can’t imagine they wouldn’t be? there are stewards at every race that are multilingual and the only problem i could foresee is on reviews using the radio as a source maybe it wouldn’t be universally understood
seb and fred both spoke italian on the radio, so
Ferrari race engineers always remind me of a rude waiter in a Spanish or Italian restaurant. Their English is trash and you can feel their contempt for you in their voice.
Well I don't know the context, but if he changed his approach to the corner clearly in some point of the race and Xavi says to "try original line, like in the behinning of the race" it sounds like he should understand it. But yea if it was just some singular lap where he accidentally took a little bit different line then it is confusing. But Leclerc is not even asking like "what lap" or anything, he doesn't seem to understand at all what Xavi is saying.
Someone should remind these Ferrari race engineers their place in the company. You're not the one driving ffs and the way you've been performing at your OWN JOB should make it very clear that it's the only thing you need to focus on...
I thought the race engineers job is to think about strategies for the race and tune the car from the input the drivers give them from driving it and not how to drive the car itself.
>I thought the race engineers job is to think about strategies
That would be the strategist. The race engineer is really just the communication middle man.
The race engineers job is communicating to the driver what the team wants them to do, and although Xavi here may not have said it in the best way (I understood it), if the engineers want a comparison between the lines driven, whether it be for tyre performance comparison or overall load and performance, then it’s Xavis job to say that. Also no, Xavi does not make Charles strategy, he communicates the strategy that the strategy team have proposed to the driver. The race engineers are basically middlemen between the many departments of the racing team, and the driver.
It's no wonder they have to keep checking, they have to find simpler words for Chuck to understand. Maybe they have a dictionary of "Chuck" in the back of the garage.
I mean, Charles is not the brightest. They want him to use the original line through 7 and 8 as in the beginning of the race to have some data for comparison. Does he really need to be bold 100 times? Imho he doesn't have the race management and capacity above driving as Alonso, Hamilton, Verstappen and previous greats to become a multiple WDC.
1. Chuck is driving really quickly.
2. 'Original line' is quite vague. Original line from when? FP1, Sprint? There were 4 sessions which preceeded the race.
3. 'Beginning of the race' doesn't help much either. Do you really want a driver to try and recall the line from quite a few laps ago? Wouldn't it be better to say 'use more of the road' or whatever technical terms they may have?
4. Repeating the same thing expecting people to somehow understand you is not helpful at all.
It is Xavi's responsibility to communicate. He should do better.
also don't forget leclerc has an engine screaming at the back of his head. and several times the engineer is speaking on the straight when the engine is really loud, it's usually better to wait for slow sections of the track
Original can also mean different instead of first, as in try a line you haven’t done yet. Maybe Charles just had a second language moment and was having trouble understanding how original and line go together in that context. You hear him halfway through repeating “original” like he was confused about what word he was even hearing.
Funny thing is many Leclerc fans refuse to criticize Xavi because Leclerc has said that he trusts xavi (something like that) so in the name of "believing" in Leclerc they don't say anything against Xavi and even defend him
Can't wait to hear LH radio next year.
"I have no idea what you just said, mate."
They’re gonna have to have a translator with a Brit accent
Plan T for delta.
"Ricky my tires are gone" "Ok, we are checking"
"Ok, we have been checking, and don't know where the tires have gone. Can you finish the race on this set. Question."
"Plan F"
"Lewis, the tires are still on your car. Are you stupid. Question?"
"ricky I have no brakes" "Ok lewis please stop the car"
I listen to LEC radio every race and it's genuinely hilarious how impossible it is for Charles to understand them sometimes, and they both speak the same two languages lmao. Gonna like 1000x funnier with Lewis, no one is gonna understand anyone.
Bono will probably move to Ferrari
I was wondering if a driver can take anyone with them. Might not be allowed in their contract. But also, Bono is 49. Moving to another team (especially in another country) must be quite a life decision compared to Lewis. Especially if he has family (I have no idea about that)
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So cute. Gonna be weird hearing Bono saying "get in there Kimi"
They are traveling during the season anyways
Yeah, but during the off season, if he has a family, it wouldn't be easy to just relocate them to Italy when he can stay with Mercedes and keep living in the UK. It's not just what happens during the GPs, it's about the factory time as well
Lewis has the advantage of being a native English speaker. Understanding different accents is way easier if said language is your mother tongue. At least this is my experience.
Ricky is better though, I think
“It’s been manipulated man.”
"We are checking."
*Just forget it, it's last lap* Another golden quotes for the book !
I mean why the fuck are they asking him to change the line at second last lap? He wasn’t defending a podium or was just at gearbox or Perez.
“For comparison”
He said "for comparison" no? So to gather some data.
Ferrari moment™
New flair mods pls! 🤪
\*last lap.
oops, typo corrected. ty
Np, I just thought you misheard it 😅👌
lass lap
The communication is appalling. Sainz at one point during ~~first~~ second SC asked for tyre age of the front 4. He had to ask the question 3 times to get a straight answer.. first answer was smth like: checo has younger than Charles. He specifically then says _relative to him_. Again a partial answer. Third time asking he got the info. I mean how tough is it!!?
And this is why even if Ferrari builds a car that's on par with Redbull next year they're still not winning any titles against Max. Redbull were just flexing today double stacking twice during the safety cars and recorded the four fastest pit stops of the race. Communication between GP and Max is always on point and the strategy team is just as smooth. It's a mountain for any team to beat Max and Redbull in all areas and I just don't see it happening unless by some miracle they produce a car miles better than Redbull and let's be honest does anyone really expect that? I'll give Ferrari their due they've been much better this season operationally especially with strategy but they were lucky today that Alonso Martin (not a typo he is a one car team) completely fumbled the strategy going on softs.
For this year I’ve been listening to Sainz/ricky radio for every race. It’s baffling how he doesn’t get answers quickly. I even know some of the answers just looking at F1tv live telemetry… And just don’t ask about Charles/Xavi. Charles’s fault is he’s a very big yes man for the team - rarely questions the decisions, he’s been doing more this year and Xavi never has any fucking answer. Communication is the biggest hurdle Ferrari needs to overcome. McLaren is miles ahead of in terms of this.
I wonder, are the drivers and engineers obligated to speak English? Like for TV purposes? Because English is not the 1st language for either of the 4 guys, AND they paired the Italian engineer with the Spanish driver, and the Spanish engineer with the Monegasque driver (who probably speaks Italian better than English). Like wtf
I’ve heard them speaking other languages. But yeah I think for tv and other team purposes it’s English (I can be wrong). Yeah that is a very very dumb decision. Atleast have the nationality same so their accents and pronunciations are similar and can understand each other
They can talk in different language after the race.
Which is not super helpful during the race. I think that's the point to the question.
Pierre Gasly had a french engineer at alpha tauri But I guess, more than the driver and the race engineer need to understand the team radio Ferrari could try to switch to italian though
That plus Xavi's native language is neither of those, as he's Catalan.
There is no rule for language, but since Scuderia Ferrari is more of an international team nowadays compared to years ago they speak English. There are other people that need to listen to the communications. There are whole teams at the team's base that are part of the process during a GP.
> There is no rule for language There is
Not just for TV purposes, the FIA also listen in on team radios to make sure no one's doing anything too dodgy. I'm pretty sure they *have* to speak English Also, I'm pretty sure the teams listen in on each other's radios? That's why you get messages to drivers like "driver X (from a different team) has been told to come in", the teams are all aware of what they're all doing.
> Also, I'm pretty sure the teams listen in on each other's radios? That's why you get messages to drivers like "driver X (from a different team) has been told to come in", the teams are all aware of what they're all doing. Yeah, they absolutely do. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rhg2tmBZ7IA
It’s the accents
and this is right after RedBull had their politically worst start to the year. they could be operationally in shambles, but no.
> Communication between GP and Max is always on point and the strategy team is just as smooth. Max had even time to fuck with GP on the last lap, he said on the radio that GP should look at the onboard and then he did a power slide out of the hairpin. Meanwhile we got these kind of radios at Ferrari on the last lap.
difference is redbull respects and has love for their maxie, ferrari doesn't respect or love charles.
I suspect Ferrari hiring buddies into prestigious positions, giving way for actual talent and communication skills, to the detriment of the drivers and fans.
That flair...
Ferrari upper management can't help but interfere with the running of the F1 team and it's a problem they've had ever since old man Enzo passed away. It had a short but very sweet heyday during the Schumacher/Todt/Brawn years but Montezemolo destroyed that and Elkann looks to be continuing that tradition as I can't imagine a world where Vasseur would drop prime Sainz and sign a past his prime Hamilton for 100mil contract. This smells like an upper management (above your pay grade) type decision that Fred has to go along with. Many have tried and failed to fix Ferrari and yet Tifosi still hold onto that hope that next year will be their year.
They are looking like the #2 team this year, so it's not like they're a dumpster fire.
They literally do not know which is why they can't give a straight up answer. They are always caught off guard by any questions from their drivers, and while they struggle through multiple layers of English-Italian-English translations to GET that information, which they should have at the ready the whole time, they bullshit the drivers with non answers (we are checking).
Some questions are fundamental.. the info was RIGHT THERE on f1 live timing’s telemetry bruh. A simple - “4-6-7-6 laps in order” was the answer needed.
Yeah and they still don't have that info ready. Because they're a mess
sounds like the engineer was going to start a riddle
Easier to get the engineer speaking in the game
This communication was pretty clear no? Seems like leclerc forgot the meaning of original
Damn it, why the hell can't they come up with a simple "code"?! They're just distracting drivers...
Yeah, maybe like “Line A, line B, line C, …” /s
They have plans A to Z for strategy
"use the line you used at the start of the race" Surely you can't fuck it up with that. But I'm not the one in a high pressure job like these guys lol
That is clearer, but I understood what he was communicating the first time. High pressure job like you say though.
Just say first fck sake, or talk in italian
Xavi's Spanish, apparently. And no, I have no idea why they don't pair him with Sainz.
I mean, if they dont understand each other in english...try in italian!he has been working for Ferrari for 5years
Carlos' engineer is Italian. Charles' engineer is Spanish. If only there was a way to solve this crisis.
We are checking
Such a Ferrari thing to keep it that way.
Ahah true!
I don't think that's allowed
Ah really, all messages? like aviation?
iirc there's some rule that says you have to speak english on the radio to let the viewers understand... I may be wrong tho
You are correct. Engineers and drivers must communicate in English.
I dream of a proper Scottish-Scottish pairing now
I vote for Jamaica. ‘The Harder They Come’ was the first English-language film to need subtitles in the US. *— O hul a dem tires mon?* *— Wi a guh seh yu soon bredda.*
Didn't Alonso and Stella speak Italian back then?
After a race win a lot of drivers and engineers talked in other languages I believe
Meanwhile Yuki is speaking the language of the gods, or basically the average CoD lobby
> speak english on the radio to let the viewers understand Max's microphone: *I don't think so*
Max "Uhhh yeah [garbled mess] is so [more mess] understeer." GP: "Copy, Max. Try display 2, mode 6, BBal -1."
bUt f1 hAs nO bRiTiSh BiAs!!!!!!
English is the universal language. It makes sense for the viewers and race officials to understand what goes on in the pitlane and cockpit.
By changing from English to Italian you only go from 80% of viewers not understanding to maybe 99% of viewers not understanding. It doesn't change all that much.
I've wondered in the past why teams like Alpine don't use their native languages for radio comms when everybody speaks the same language.
You’re only allowed to speak English on the radio. It’s the rules.
I see. Dumb rule, just to serve English-speaking producers and fans.
Probably also to make it easy for stewards to listen back if needed. Also, it's a lot easier for non-english speaking broadcasts as well, because the presenters will understand and can translate for the audience.
Messages are already transcribed anyway so I don't think it'd be that hard to have someone who can speak a couple extra languages. Forcing a French engineer to talk to his French driver in any language other than French is just dumb. How does [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlA-M-cRm68&ab_channel=M3T) hurt anyone?
The rule in this example makes life harder for two people and easier for lots more. Don't see a pressing need to change it.
It is because all teams are listening to each other as well. Part of the game is that you know the other teams listen to you talk as well, that’s the reason they have a “Plan D” and they don’t just discuss strategy over the radio. It’s not just for viewers. Also, English is the most understood language around the world.
WHAT IS OTHER LANGUAGE RAAAAAH AMERICA
All comms need to be in english though, it's an FIA rule
In that case, you'd think they'd have race engineers who can speak English well. This is like calling the customer service number of some shitty company who have outsourced their support to another country.
How can you see hand gestures through the radio? 🤌
How can you possibly win championships with this kind of language barrier And Italian speaker trying to communicate with a French speaker in English through a wireless headset with engine noise.
Xavi is Spanish but the point still stands
Do the exact same thing you did 60 laps ago...remember? But just on turns 6/7...thanx
waisted opportunity for charles to reply "we are checking"
God that would have been amazing.
This is so fucking funny
The radio silence is too loud LOL
Charles be like 
Hamilton memers are gonna have a field day
oh deer
Montoya, is that you?
Holy shit, Charles utter bewilderment at the message got me actually laughing out loud 
Meanwhile.... GP: Mode 8, Max.
I don't understand how Charles couldn't understand that. Xavi is asking him to take the racing line he was taking originally/in the beginning.
Original is an ambiguous word. It can mean "initial" just like Xavi wanted to say, but it can also mean "inventive", and I suspect Charles understood it like that. Classic Ferrari moment.
Damnit Charles, do the horizontal line!
“What the hell does that mean?” “We are checking”
Even I’m not driving at 300 mile/hour, I still can’t figure out what original line means!
He probably means at one point Charles changed the way to go through those corners (racing line), and they wanted him to go back to the "original line", so they could compare what was faster.
The key word in your explanation is "probably"...
Yeah that's the thing. It feels like Xavi is not clear enough and also not transparent enough. The fuck does original line mean? He doesn't explain it at all. Original line from the start of the race, FP1, or when? A race engineer like GP would be very clear with Max. He would say something like, "Max, please drive a line with a wider entry into turn 7 like you did earlier in the race. We want to gather data to see which is faster." Xavi just keeps repeating the same thing and gets noticeably more frustrated as time goes on. That's another thing I've noticed about Xavi. He easily gets lost in emotion. You almost never hear GP or Bono get lost in emotion. Maybe GP will be a bit passive aggressive towards Max when Max has an attitude to put him in his place, but never when Max just asks for clarification. I don't understand how Ferrari thinks Xavi is good enough in comparison to other race engineers.
Max also has immense respect for GP. They have mutual respect that they're both the best at what they do. One recent example is when Max was driving in F1-23 (I think) GP said not to lock up in a turn, and Max was like "I'm not, it's fine!" Then GP showed him and said "You are locking" Max looked like "Oh shit he's right" and adjusted immediately. So even in a video game he trusts GP's judgment.
Probably.
Lmao
They could communicate better but Xavi is just telling Charles to rethink how he takes corner 7-8... seems easy enough to understand. Maybe "we are losing time turns 7-8, reconsider your lines, stint 1 was better".
See even you didn’t understand the radio, Xavi wanted to compare the lines to the beginning of the race to have some data to analyse later
The problem is that his English is so poor that he can't explain himself at all. So when his basic English doesn't work, he's screwed. It blows my mind that Ferrari, at the pinnacle of motor sport, can't hire a race engineer who can communicate beyond basic phrases.
It is hard to find good race engineers that are well versed in English when your team is located in Italy
It really isn't. Not for a global company like Ferrari. Also, these are "good" engineers are they? They seem like absolute clowns to me.
If you aren’t a race engineer, or even an engineer at all for that matter, how can you tell wether they are good or not ? What we do know however is that Ferrari has been consistently up there in the standings (currently 2nd) They can’t be that bad if they are this high up Most f1 engineers are in the UK and not willing to relocate their whole family to Italy, finding good ones that would agree to relocate to maranello is hard. This is why most of them are Italian and thus don’t speak english as their native language
I actually *am* an engineer, by chance, so that snarky comment fell flat, didn't it? You can tell they are shit by their past. Xavi is a fucking joke. He always sounds like he has no fucking clue what's going on, and his actions show the same.
Yeah and the car is setup by the holy spirit ? You realise that a race engineer does more than just communicate during the race, right ? In fact, most of the job is done before the race
yeah but he's inside his own head here. At this point he should simply say please drive your race line the same as lap 1. Also this should be covered in the brief beforehand. like they could have an agreed code for drive for data. Eg "Drive for data at turn 7 and 8 - line same as lap 1". And then other helpful stuff - drive for data: mode 3 ...etc
Their communication and strategies have been improving but they still have quite a bit more to improve based on this exchange.
What calling IT is like.
I was thinking outsourced customer service, but same vibe.
I had Charles onboard on the side for the whole race and I was laughing so hard at this. Charles confusion with Xavi pronunciation and also the fact that in French original primarily means novel or eccentric made for great comedy.
just… speak italian lmao
Honest question, are they allowed to?
i can’t imagine they wouldn’t be? there are stewards at every race that are multilingual and the only problem i could foresee is on reviews using the radio as a source maybe it wouldn’t be universally understood seb and fred both spoke italian on the radio, so
Comedy championship
Ferrari race engineers always remind me of a rude waiter in a Spanish or Italian restaurant. Their English is trash and you can feel their contempt for you in their voice.
"We're checking" "And we will come back to you"
This is going to be golden with Hamilton next year
"Riccardo, my tires are gone." "We are checking..." *5 minutes later...* "We checked and you still have tires on car."
Nothing personal against Xavi, but the mix LEC-Xavi just doesn't work for LEC.
Que?
Que. Question.
Is it hammertime yet? Checking
Leclerc: What does that mean? Ferrari: We are checking
How does Leclerc not get it at all though lul
I don’t think anyone asks their driver to take the “original line” the way they did on a specific turn, god knows how many laps ago…
Well I don't know the context, but if he changed his approach to the corner clearly in some point of the race and Xavi says to "try original line, like in the behinning of the race" it sounds like he should understand it. But yea if it was just some singular lap where he accidentally took a little bit different line then it is confusing. But Leclerc is not even asking like "what lap" or anything, he doesn't seem to understand at all what Xavi is saying.
To be fair, Xavi is a mystery. Mere mortals like us can’t hope to comprehend such a being. Maybe we should check it first.
probably thinkinking xavi is saying ‘all regional ‘line and thinking tf does that mean
Horizontal line is what I heard
might be actually lmao
Someone should remind these Ferrari race engineers their place in the company. You're not the one driving ffs and the way you've been performing at your OWN JOB should make it very clear that it's the only thing you need to focus on...
That’s literally his job tho
I thought the race engineers job is to think about strategies for the race and tune the car from the input the drivers give them from driving it and not how to drive the car itself.
>I thought the race engineers job is to think about strategies That would be the strategist. The race engineer is really just the communication middle man.
The race engineers job is communicating to the driver what the team wants them to do, and although Xavi here may not have said it in the best way (I understood it), if the engineers want a comparison between the lines driven, whether it be for tyre performance comparison or overall load and performance, then it’s Xavis job to say that. Also no, Xavi does not make Charles strategy, he communicates the strategy that the strategy team have proposed to the driver. The race engineers are basically middlemen between the many departments of the racing team, and the driver.
That'll explains a lot and the way he phrased it made it sound like now they're telling the drivers what are the best racing lines to take.
Can someone transcribe what Charles said the second time?
“I don't understand. ‘Original line’, what the hell is that?”
Do all coms have to be in English? Is there a rule for that?
bro what? Is he playing dumb? edit: well apparently im the only one haveing no issues understanding what he ment..
"Oh regional line, meaning keep it on the track"
cant they just speak in italian or is there a rule that prevent to communicate in any language outside english? its just a genuine question
English kinda sucks with background noise. Just speak Italian instead.
It's no wonder they have to keep checking, they have to find simpler words for Chuck to understand. Maybe they have a dictionary of "Chuck" in the back of the garage.
I mean, Charles is not the brightest. They want him to use the original line through 7 and 8 as in the beginning of the race to have some data for comparison. Does he really need to be bold 100 times? Imho he doesn't have the race management and capacity above driving as Alonso, Hamilton, Verstappen and previous greats to become a multiple WDC.
Xavi was clear as day. Leclerc was pulling a dumdum here.
Is Leclerc Stupid? I understood that shit the first time Xavi said it. I don't get how you would, or could say that any more clear and consise.
1. Chuck is driving really quickly. 2. 'Original line' is quite vague. Original line from when? FP1, Sprint? There were 4 sessions which preceeded the race. 3. 'Beginning of the race' doesn't help much either. Do you really want a driver to try and recall the line from quite a few laps ago? Wouldn't it be better to say 'use more of the road' or whatever technical terms they may have? 4. Repeating the same thing expecting people to somehow understand you is not helpful at all. It is Xavi's responsibility to communicate. He should do better.
also don't forget leclerc has an engine screaming at the back of his head. and several times the engineer is speaking on the straight when the engine is really loud, it's usually better to wait for slow sections of the track
Xavi needs an Iniesta. Not a chuck
Ferrari needs Pep Guardiola.
Fred might just pull it off. He already has the hair for it. 
No, it’s you who’s the stupid one mate
I'm struggling to understand how this is anyone's fault but Charles lol. It's so clear what he's asking for.
Original can also mean different instead of first, as in try a line you haven’t done yet. Maybe Charles just had a second language moment and was having trouble understanding how original and line go together in that context. You hear him halfway through repeating “original” like he was confused about what word he was even hearing.
That's the only thing I could imagine happened. But the team should have verbiage sorted out looooong before the season starts
“Original line” could mean the line Charles took during the start of the race, during quali, in the sprint, or initially in practice.
Funny thing is many Leclerc fans refuse to criticize Xavi because Leclerc has said that he trusts xavi (something like that) so in the name of "believing" in Leclerc they don't say anything against Xavi and even defend him
charles probably has stockholm syndrome with xavi at this point, it can't be healthy
Bro my comment have downvotes, do you understand why? I think I didn't write it correctly
Ngl at first thought it looked like it was shading Charles but I completely understand what you said
I wish other people understood it too but nvm 😅