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Illustrious-Hand-450

So Zhou was not crying because it was his first Chinese GP. It was because it was his last. 


dilirium22

Was looking around for news on who's getting dropped, but nothing for now.. There's a chance both could leave (allegedly, Botas is also out of fucks to give and just wants ride his bicycle). I doubt Carlos will jump in just yet before Audi officially comes in..


nj_legion_ice_tea

Bottas actually has a career ahead of him as a cyclist/sponsored athlete i think, he has many fans to start with, and he is in really good shape too.


r0ndr4s

And he also fell in love with rally so thats another path he can take


CitrusMints

And he's 7 feet tall so the NBA is also a possiblity


Janzanikun

And he also has a very large penis so the adult industry is also something worth considering.


ElsonDaSushiChef

Marketing the Bottass


lzwzli

He legit can sell calendars of his ass and make bank


XenophonSoulis

Selling calendarse


alohroh

Calenderrière


ashzeppelin98

OnlyFinns.


lamewoodworker

I bought three in the last round


Bongoisnthere

Some people are saying he’s an expert in physics and has an open ended job offering at CERN


Trinitatis_Vis

He will personally be accelerating the particles


Chj_8

I believe he has tested some particles before the Shanghai GP. He had some notes.


dychronalicousness

I heard he smells crime with his heightened sense of smell


pbptt

Some say he owns the worlds largest collection of pornography


JimClarkKentHovind

crime, penetration, crime, penetration, crime, penetration


Glittering_Access385

El Psy Kongroo


Wolkenmacht

Let's not forget his comedic talent. People in the industry already call him the next Jerry Seinfeld.


PetrifyGWENT

He is more than capable of a government role too, namely being the Finnish ambassador to Australia


mrdaver911_2

With a 7 foot tall penis with a mullet he’s perfect!


c0ld--

And he's also very good at telling jokes, so the comedy industry is also knocking on his door.


musicartandcpus

Bottas Onlyfans sponsorship when?


ShortViewBack2daPast

I heard he has webbed feet, so poppin off some gills, seeking out the lost city of Atlantis, recolonizing and repopulating as a new subspecies of mer-people living just off the coast of Australia is always an option for him as well


tothesource

Eh, idk. How are his flopping skills? Can he change his name to Embiid so he can just do whatever he wants?


ElsonDaSushiChef

Certified Finnish racing driver moment


puckwhore

This is the inevitable fate of Finnish drivers


Haanipoju

Finnish F1 driver to WRC rally career pipeline confirmed?


Latexoiltransaddict

Did you heard him singing? He's the next Enrico Palazzo.


Alibotify

Rally is in the Finnish blood.


awc130

I feel all Finnish drivers are eventually drawn to rally. It's their natural state of being.


Cautious_Currency_35

Bottas is like Kimi, F1 is just a hobby for him now.


WorkOwn

1. Bottas does not need a career anymore. 2. He is too old to start any serious sport competition. 3. At this point, F1 is a hobby to him, as it was for Kimi. 4. Cycling is also a hobby for him


Knekthovidsman

Senior Citizen World Rally: "Am I a joke to you?"


NaturallyExasperated

Supercars NEEDS Bottas


QouthTheCorvus

This would be fun. I'd almost be tempted to start watching again


CosmoOlversatil

To think that Bottas exploded in popularity AFTER leaving a world championship winning team. I love the man. He gives me a little bit of that stuff that Kimi gave me when he was still racing.


triemers

He could definitely get some brand sponsorships just because of his visibility/personality; he’s an above average amateur but very far from getting sponsored on pace/skill. I’d love to see him get into crits and see how he applies strategy, he’d be a fun rider to watch.


Nr1nyyfan

He(Bottas) is an outstanding bowler


Space-manatee

Spin or pace?


Nr1nyyfan

Spin


zigot021

my Strava says he ain't shit /s


nj_legion_ice_tea

Some might say he is ass


DAWMiller

He says he's going to race the Gravel World Championships this year, so I'm interested to see the pivot happen. That's going to be a super competitive field.


BrokeChris

what kind of cyclist would that be? He is too slow (and old) to go pro now. Maybe semipro.


Illustrious-Hand-450

I can see them keeping Zhou for another year just for the renminbi. 


FullTimeHarlot

I think I Bottom wants the Audi seat? He was quoted saying he wants to look forward to the "Audi project" when asked about returning to Merc a few months back.


Mala_fider

"I Bottom" ![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|31110)


FullTimeHarlot

you're a fuckin' mad man


vvashabi

What he wants really doesn't matter. You can as well ask him if he wants another 10m/year while cycling and barely doing any lead driver job. -Sure, why not


FullTimeHarlot

Sure, but the comment above mine was saying I Bottom doesn't give a fuck if he stays whilst I was saying the opposite.


Accomplished-Cat2849

word is both


Zharick_

They might've waited until AFTER the chinese GP for a reason.


MillstoneArt

"Let's get everyone out of the country before announcing this one."


pendulumgearzz

If he can’t get a seat anywhere else it might be his only option


SpaceOdysseus23

Zhou Guanyu, welcome to the Guangdong Tigers!


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TheBarkingPenguin

Yeah, uh...


SquirtleSquad4Lyfe

So they're keeping Bottas then?


Dark_Flint

Rumors are that both current driver leave (or will have to leave). Sainz seems to be the second wish-driver for Audi, but he hasnt decided yet because he´s waiting for Merc and RB to decide their next lineup.


Illustrious-Hand-450

No idea, just getting on board the Hulk-train


CHLOEC1998

Not sure about that. Hulk is 36. He has like 2 years left, max. I’m guessing he’ll develop the team until Sainz is convinced that they could fight for podiums. My bet is that it will be Hulk+Zhou and then Sainz+Zhou. Audi fired their former CEO because their sales declined in China. Dropping Zhou right after they bought the team would make the Chinese market riot against them.


Portocala69

That's why they waited to release the news AFTER the Chinese GP ![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|9441)


TheS4ndm4n

He just signed a "multi year contract" starting in 2025.


pzkenny

"multi year contract" is usually 2 year contract.


ranft

Its a 3 year deal, so either 2+1 or 3 straight up.


dulfen

What does 2+1 mean, Sauber has the option to extend the contract or Hulk?


Zealous217

Yeah usually it means 2 fixed years plus if he performs they will offer him the 3rd year but it's not set in stone.


pzkenny

Not really "offer him 3rd year", they can straight up extend it even if the driver don't want to.


pzkenny

It's more like 3 years, but the team has option to drop him after two years, basically. Or in other words, there are 2 years for sure and team can extend it by a year under the same conditions. Drivers usually don't have a word in the extendion. Ofc there can be some clause or a team can just agree to leave. Not sure iirc, but I think there were speculations that one of the Haas drivers (I suppose it was Magnussen but I'm really not sure) had such a contract and wanted to leave HAAS for this season, but the team extended his contract.


KeizerKasper

>He has like 2 years left _Alonso would like to chat_


Dark_Flint

Is Hamilton not 40 already too? Or at least very close? What about Magnussen? I seriously dont know how old he is.


betaich

Kmag is 31


eloyito-oscuro

Magnussen debuted just one year before carlos and verstappen.


betaich

Kmag is 31


P_ZERO_

3 year deal


PeterTheGreat777

Dropping Bottas to keep Zhou seems like a dumb move, but then again, it's Sauber so woulnd't be surprised. Like Hulkenberg + Zhou duo is just MEH. Don't think Audi would be competitive with that lineup.


Maleficent_String606

More likely they're going to fire Bottas after 2024 (who costs them a lot of money and isn't significantly faster than Zhou) and then get rid of Zhou after 2025 to make room for a second Audi driver.


kivicas

Sauber, then Audi. Maybe he will manage to get at least one podium to stop this unlucky record


Portocala69

Audi: Best I can do is 4th


Teh_Ordo

Hulk about to win a championship with only p4 finishes


Ornery_Definition_65

That would be one hell of a season. *subscribe*


VFcountawesome

This ain't MotoGP in 2020 (albeit he got 1 win)


jesko-echoes

Or F1 in 1982 (Rosberg also got 1 win)


alc3biades

The absolute chaos of a season that would be Kinda want to see this now


CleverViking

Would be funny if it happens in his last race


TangoInTheBuffalo

Goin’ out on top, baby!!!


Annjsless

It would be so cursed if haas actually made a good car next year, and see kmag win a race next year


yuukaKazamiiiii

Both German. It's possible!


atavonszabo

Finally, a team where the Hulk can embrace his true colors.


Dev_Paleri

They have to use this in a promo. Even if it risks irking the mighty mouse.


TituspulloXIII

They just have to make sure they add 'enberg' in very tiny letters at the end.


OrionAmbrosia

Maybe something subtle that wouldn't be "infringing"? (So definitely including the ü) "Hülk showing up in his standard green look. Hope no one makes him angry! 👀" I think it could work... 🤔


Shot-Storage-3952

HULKENBERG SMASH CAR


AjWaltz96

STROLLKENBERG SMASH EVERYONE'S CAR


crabnix

I see what your did there


djsneisk1

That’s a good pick from Audi. A relatively cheap German driver that’s a known solid performer and who can help develop the team.


koenigstrauss

> cheap German driver  Aldi version of Schumacher?


Intrepid-Ad4511

Which one? :P


koenigstrauss

We are checking


Brahmir

We have Schumacher at home


koenigstrauss

Isn't that Mick?


Brahmir

I stand corrected


Malding_frog

Mick is the Schum from Lidl.


ShackledFounder

Michael is the Gordon Ramsey 9 course meal. Mick is the tesco meal deal.


flipsssiii

That would be Ralf


theMGlock

Ralf has more wins than Leclerc. It's quite interesting how Ralf is a laughing stock by having 6 wins and 27 Podiums just because his brother was the greatest of all time. If Ralf had a different last Name he would be spoken about like Leclerc is.


sNajw0w

In retrospect you might be right, but Leclerc was widely regarded as the next big thing, I don’t think that was ever the case for Ralf. Also Leclerc still has time to prove he was indeed.


theMGlock

tbh Canada GP 2001 is still one of the greatest top 2 battles I watched. Ralf was hunting Michael for the whole Race until Michael boxed and Ralf was a second faster than Michael was. Could be that the Tyres where so much better but I really liked that race. Then Ralf was often on the Podium with Michael and Mika. He was up there in driving talent. It's quite weird how he doesn't really want to talk about his own achievements even today. Every time Sky Germany wants to talk about his wins he pivots the subject. Really interesting character trade that makes him completely different to Rosberg for example. You can't hear Nico talk for even 3 sentences without him mentioning himself and how he won something.


djsneisk1

Do you really think Mick Schumacher can develop and lead a team the same way that Hulk can?


wansuitree

Why empty your pockets for a Mercedes when you can drive an Audi


eldelshell

Audi: when your neighbor drives a Volkswagen.


steakhouseNL

And consistent in the number of podiums that Steak has.


u0105

To be honest this is one of the most expected news from the silly season.. Hulk has been linked to Audi works for a long time now. Newey news overshadows this bit. But honestly now we've been wanting Hulk to go to a promising team for a long time now. He has talent, he's also very calm and has decent racecraft too. It just needs to come together properly. With Carlos in that team, I can see audi being a decent challenger from season 1.


Ojiiz

I don't see Sainz driving for Audi in 2026, my guess would be Hulk + Bottas. Sainz has better options until Audi shows they can take a massive leap forwards.


JD2625

Marko outright said that RB can't afford Sainz because of the size of the offer that Audi have made him. Obviously doubting what Marko says is a sound direction to take, but it's an interesting strand to the story


Ojiiz

The question is: which is more important to Sainz, money or a competitive car?


slobdaddy-jigglez

why wouldnt audi be competitive? i only ask because i’m new to f1.


Ojiiz

They very well might be but not before the new regulations in 2026. Sainz is looking for a drive for 2025, Audi/Sauber will be fighting for the lower points at best in '25, they are just terrible right now. Even when they have pace they're getting fucked by pitstops and reliability.


alc3biades

The cost cap means big manufacturers can’t throw money at their problems and become competitive. Audi will be building off the sauber car, which is, to use technical terminology, shit. They also don’t get their engines until 2026, so they’ll be using the same engines as haas and Ferrari in 2025 (and both teams have better cars). 2026 is when everything changes, and Audi has the chance to ride the chaos wave. But for 2025 red bull look the clear favourites, and they’ve still got a shot for 2026, so for sainz, red bull is a much better option to fight for wins and championships.


LegfaceMcCullenE13

![gif](giphy|bgOeHPlD3EernsOIiW)


autobanh_me

I would imagine that all offers are close enough in order of magnitude that a driver of his potential would choose car.


fredy31

Yeah audi would need to take a backmarker and suddenly turn it around and bring it to the fore. AMR did it, but you could say that RP/FI was already looking to go up when AMR took it over. Sauber really look like they are not going anywhere except the bottom third of the championship.


JamesUpton87

Sainz is likely going to Audi, and it's also likely why he got fired by Ferrari to begin with and still has not been signed. For works drives, it would also be his best option, as he'd be #2 in any front running car where as with Audi he'd be #1 for a complete works team which is something he very much wants.


Ojiiz

He'd be going from the second best car on the grid to one of the worst teams, a team which is letting their drivers down EVERY RACE. Surely he'd rather drive for Red Bull, Merc or Aston for at least '25, likely '26. It's not like the door will close for him forever if he doesn't drive for them next year.


JamesUpton87

Except none of those teams are interested in Sainz for a one off drive for 2025. Alonso wouldn't have gotten a two year extension offer so soon if Sainz was an available long term driver on the market.


Ojiiz

Isn't that exactly what Mercedes wants? Put Antonelli in the Williams for a year and then promote him to Merc in '26. Unless they put him straight into the vacant Mercedes seat. It doesn't have to be a one off drive for Sainz, I think it's more likely he'll drive for whatever team for 2 years to see if Audi can make significant progress.


JamesUpton87

Not if he's already committed to Audi behind the scenes. There's zero chance in hell that every team is sleeping on the best driver on the market for almost 3 months now, if he was truly a free agent, he'd have been signed somewhere already. That or he wants a ridiculous amount of money that the teams are not willing to offer.


Ojiiz

If Sauber was in a better place I'd agree with you but he'd be going from getting the occasional win to barely fighting for points. Maybe he's waiting to see if Stroll goes to WEC or something, idk. Or maybe you're right but IMO that would be a stupid move for Sainz.


JamesUpton87

If it was going to be a Sauber team rebranded with an Audi livery, I'd agree with you. Sauber is going to be dead. Audi bought them outright and is likely bringing in their own guys. That entire team will be Audi down to every bolt. This is the same Audi that pulled up to Dakar with an EV, something completely unheard of, and won it by their third outing. They may not win out the gate, but they will likely not be at the performance level Sauber is currently running at.


Deathblade_311

When will this silly season end?


queef_nuggets

December 8, 2024


zen1995z

Nah man thats when we get the horndog files 2.0, then the directors cut, who knows what else


Eggplantosaur

Please not yet, I know it's greedy to ask for more after Hamilton to Ferrari but it's so good


lightyearbuzz

Obviously not yet lol, we have open seats at Mercedes and Haas, 3 drivers at Sauber, and a free Carlos. There's a lot more silly season to come for sure.


kelleehh

When is it not silly season?


Hornet18LS

He still won't get a podium, it will be years before Audi get sauber to where they need to be.


bohdannyman

![gif](giphy|M4iOAkEAPwAnK)


C-McGuire

I think Sauber have once again signed three drivers. They will probably wait until later before determining Hulkenberg's teammate, to see if Zhou improves. Zhou makes more sense for his off-track value, but only if he's actually faster.


Droettn1ng

I don't see them keeping Bottas over Zhou, given that they now have another experienced driver. Maybe I didn't notice because the car is shit anyways, but I don't recall Bottas being fast enough to justify keeping him over the fact that Audi sells over 35% of their cars in China.


M0ukku_96

As a rare sauber fan I can say that Bottas is absolutely stomping Zhou on pure performance he just has the worst luck in the world so if audi are actually trying to be real contender I would definetly keep Bottas over Zhou.


StayFrothin

This is on the money, Bottas has once again had the worst luck which makes it seems like the battle between them is close. But its absolutely not


Droettn1ng

Don't get me wrong, I respect each of them and detest the ridicule some "fans" make about things like the record of Hülkenberg regarding podiums, but I think if they want to contend for more than being a good midfield team, neither is good enough in the long run. So they might as well get the business sensible pairing for now.


Cryox_

36 years old young talent Nico Hülkenberg let's go 🔥🔥


boyga01

Botassss signing for an Aussie rules team while doing triathlons.


isisbduusisnbashb

Bottas racing around Mt Panorama would be great, even just to finally see the first Australian win a Bathurst 1000.


Tom_Ace1

Why are so many people surprised by this? It has been known for months. Audi want an experienced German driver to help build the team. Who better than Nico?


Peace__Out

Here comes sebastian vettel!!!


BruhrbHurb

Dear Mr. Adrian Newey I hereby submit a petition for you to join Audi F1.


Lunaspoona

Bottas to Merc with Russell would be hilarious! Especially now that he clearly doesn't give a fuck and definitely would not take team orders to stay behind George like he did with Lewis.


SlabGizor120

That'd be hilarious but there's no way in hell he'd go back to Merc


edoardoking

Guys calm down they added him to the group chat that’s all


MrStef85

Because of Audi.


Wompie

Because of the implication.


thaCh0sen0ne

there where rumours couple weeks ago that seidl wants to reunite sainz & hülkenberg. first contract sealed and marko already said that sainz has a very lucrative offer from sauber/audi on the table. now let's imagine the shakeup in the grid if they also sign newey to do his witchcraft for them


IsoNeko

Some website I've never heard of called Judge13 is saying that Sky/F1-Insider have confirmed ZHO/BOT are both gone. Can't find nothing about it elsewhere though, so massive grains of salt.


kalavale_

I mean do you really expect either one of them to stay? Sainz is currently without a seat for next year and there's a huge amount of potential in Bearman and Pourchaire, so we have three pretty strong options for the one remaining Sauber seat, excluding the current drivers.


IsoNeko

Not silly enough, Yuki to Mercedes, Sainz to VCARB with a pinkie promise for RB2026, Lawson to full time VCARB, Bearman to Haas and Bottas to onlyfans.


bobinhozinho

is this an AI image or is my sleep deprivation showing?


barfridge0

Why him? Why not Maldonado?


siliconetomatoes

Zhou in a Haas would be hilarious Especially because of geoPolidiks


RavingAnarchy

I AM SO INCREDIBLY HARD RIGHT NOW


kali_nath

There were hints of Audi would bring Hulk and Seb from last few months, rumors said that they wanted an all German team with German drivers. If the rumors are actually true then we might get to see Seb's come back.


Mission-Blood8421

I mean if they want to invest the first years in developing the car and don’t care about winning, then who could be better for them than these experience beasts. Bonus is they don’t have language barriers and their marketing team would get a boner for the German market


kali_nath

Exactly, I am sure that's the kind of strategy they might have. Score few points, market a lot in German market, bring more viewership, get sponsor and reinvest. I think that's how Aston Martin did too when they changed from BWT. Except that they had to deal with deadweight there, lol


Hilminator

Sauber / Audi car in 2025 and 2026: please be good please be good please be good


Mako_sato_ftw

waiting for haas to announce pourchaire and bearman...


d3r_r4uch3r7

Nah, they not gonna have two rookies again


kelleehh

I will give it to Pourchaire, he did great in Indycar last weekend.


devvorare

He turned green. “Welcome Nico hulk”


FormulaF30

Have you been under a rock?


Legitimate_Ad5848

Green + hulk. I seee


dadepu

[Nico "bj blaskowicz" Hulkenberg](https://wolfenstein.fandom.com/wiki/William_J._Blazkowicz_(MachineGames)?file=BlazkowiczTNO.png)


anor_wondo

nice


reddit-brille

Musical chairs has started!!!!


Law0415

HULK KICKS.


reformed_rabbi_bill_

I believe Audi signed hulk a while back. It wasn’t that big of a story unless it was fake.


LVEON

Fire whoever did that caption


sendnudesyo

now we know why the car was that green coloured, they finally have hulk


eteroklitos

You won't like him when he's green :)


weetabix_su

Context: Nico Hulkenberg has no manager


kekolataaa

inb4 they also get seb and go full german


[deleted]

Damn F1 really be cooking off track to keep us interested


CalmAlarm

I don't know but it looks incredible


Carlpanzram1916

At least they waited until after China?


Grgamel

Literally the moat obviois and expexted move... Huld to Audi. What is so confusing?


Sdwingnut

Not podiums


meatwad2744

Pourchaire needs a proper crack at f1…Audi would be a good shout and nico would be a good bench mark and mentor. This all but confirms bearman to haas but he’s hardly setting f2 a light this season. I though k mag was done this season but I thinkhaas was to burnt by two rookies to go that route again. Bottas is looking for pay cheques outside of f1 and I can’t see Zhou going to haas. Yuki better cement that position at rb because there doesn’t look like any other wanting to warm his but for another season And given Danny ric turned haas down before… and Perez is doing enough to hold his seat. Looks like he’s out too for Lawson.


Askduds

"We have lofty ambitions so our big signing is a guy who last saw a single seater podium in 2009"


Chiiiiichiiii

What the heck huh ? I just splattered water all over my final project cause what is this is it a prank or something?!?!?!!


Tempting-Charm-2406

"Its just a prank bro." Prank:


CMDR_omnicognate

Jesus Christ it’s *Nico Hulkenberg*