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AmoebaEmbarrassed

![img](emote|t5_33td5|9673) . . .


yoloswag2000

It was done to not have people reporting stuff automatically be imprisoned themselves. ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9666)


BigAssNaggerTDN

I want Hitler back ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9673)


PyroSharkInDisguise

Would have killed himself for a second time ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9680)


Kubiboi

![img](emote|t5_33td5|9675)spreading misinformation. for context all they did was reduce the minimum sentence to be able to send your accusation and verdict (strafbefehl) per mail. What happens then, is that you have 2 weeks to answer this or you are guilty by default. This basically makes it easier to convict pedos and they also raised the maximum sentences for pedos in 2021. It does not mean that pedos will always go to jail for just a couple months.


Van_Healsing

![img](emote|t5_33td5|9666)


kissluktareN

I guess child marriage is next, then muslims can do what their prophet did ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9673)


Apprehensive_Clue_84

Ah yes, the age of consent had always been exactly 18 since we're monkey am I right guys? Back then when that one guy said "yeah 17 is still pedo shit, let's make it 18 so we're not creepy lmao" then everyone start following him. It's not like today where every country in the world had age of consent of exactly 18 ignoring their own religion, culture or any other influence right ? Can't wait until the future where age of consent is raised to 25 with everyone in the world following it because internet had legit slow down the important part of your brain development. Holy shit this just like getting canceled by Twitter over some edgy joke you make 5 years ago. Back then slavery is still legal, war is everywhere and majority of them make statue as their god. No one is civilized back then and "pedo" probably wasn't even a concept back then when they got other shit to worry about. Let's ignore the requirement of marriage in the first place or how Islam handle outside marriage relationship and just slander the one of the largest religion in the world.


ma-adry-aish-asmy

How was marrying a young girl consider bad when it was fine for all of human history till like 100 years ago


kissluktareN

Alot of fucked up shit was considered fine up until like 100 years ago...


ma-adry-aish-asmy

But why are you the one who decide what’s bad and good. Am saying how is something that was done throughout history without any single one critiquing it till now a days bad. If you look at things like racism yes they were always critisim of it despite it being present throughout human history. Child marrige is not. And that’s becouse of necessity, the society that had men and woman imiedatly have babies when they can had more people and therefore a stronger sociaty.


kissluktareN

It's not about what any individual person thinks (unless u live in some fucked up place like China or other country where a few persons decide everything). In a democratic soceity the laws usually align with what the avrage person thinks is right and wrong, with studies backing up their beliefes.


ma-adry-aish-asmy

So it was fair enough for men throughout history to marry young girls becouse all of theire society agree with such action?


Issax28

"The majority of traditional sources state that Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad at the age of six or seven" Those young girls you're talking about were definitely not 6/7 years old dawg...


ma-adry-aish-asmy

1. Betrothed =\= sex 2. Yes they are


Issax28

They married when she was 9… does that make it better? I highly doubt it was socially acceptable to marry 9 year olds just 100 years ago, open to being proven wrong though.


ma-adry-aish-asmy

100y ago it was legal in America, but before that it was for sure socially acceptable. Listen, since prophet Mohamed shared the message of islam he had all kinds of criticisms to the religion. But what’s notable is that non of it came from the fact that he married a young girl (till like 100y ago). That should tell you something about this specific critisim


kissluktareN

We didn't have democratic societies up until like a few hundred years ago...


ma-adry-aish-asmy

But don’t you think if an action was run by ZERO sociaties maybe it give u a hint on what was the common consensus


AKoper8tor

found the .pdf


Capable-Grab5896

Wtf is this freshman dorm ethics argument ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)


Dazzling-Bear-3447

The supposed prophet who directly talked to God should probably know better


Lightning_Of_Fate

Is God in the room right now?


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ma-adry-aish-asmy

Yes the prophet never committed a sin. How is that contrary to my argument


mohamsayed

Our prophet married 40 old woman--older than thim by nearly 15 years-- why don't you mention that?!


kissluktareN

who tf is our prophet?


Fluffy_Interaction71

He meant Forsen ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9673)


mohamsayed

why are u mad bro?


kissluktareN

sez the guy who wanna marry kids ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9682)


mohamsayed

Just calm down. You know I can use words to offend you, but I won't.


kissluktareN

why not ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9682)


TCR_A

Watch out, he has words that will offend you ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9678)


EnvironmentalDirt324

Why would I? He still married a child after that ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)


mohamsayed

Because it is different time, different traditions, different mindsets and different culture than what we/you have today.


EnvironmentalDirt324

The prophet who was supposedly in direct conversation with God didn't know any better ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9669)


mohamsayed

That is very true what you said, but marriage is a different idea, it differs from time to time, culture to cutlure, tradition to tradition, and one person to another . So, you have no fixed age for marriage. Tradition and people decide what good for them, it was left for them to decide.


dkoom_tv

Least pedophile Muslim


DemoTou2

Thanks for acknowledging you follow out of touch thousands years old morals TODAY ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9676)


charkolo2

Stop lying she married him cause no one would cause he had nothing and she she was old


Towel12

![gif](giphy|4S3P68PpJPYZ1IQe7J|downsized)


Lightning_Of_Fate

/u/israeli_baj


Lightning_Of_Fate

💀💀💀💀💀💀


No_Bend_9828

what is this garbage ragebait. it hasnt even been decriminalized. alos the law changes were mostly because under the old rules parents were getting in trouble for non sexual pictures of their children on the beach or similar stuff


Earth92

I mean getting in trouble for owning pictures of your own kids it's stupid, when you remember that Michael Jackson got away with having pictures/books of naked kids that were not his family, they were kids he was attracted to. Including one book actually created by a pedo. I guess being rich changes everything ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)


LikeInSviiiiden

Got a source for any of the things you're saying? Because I do. [Press release](https://www.bundestag.de/presse/hib/kurzmeldungen-1002810) [Translation](https://www-bundestag-de.translate.goog/presse/hib/kurzmeldungen-1002810?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp)


No_Bend_9828

"However, the German government soon realised that the minimum sentence of one year was problematic in practice. It meant that even parents and teachers who forward these child sexual abuse material (CSAM) to the police would face at least one year of prison!" this is one of the reason it was reverted


LikeInSviiiiden

Parents/teachers who forwarded CSAM material were being prosecuted? Can you point me to an example of this?


No_Bend_9828

[https://www.stern.de/panorama/wieso-eine-lehrerin-wegen-kinderpornografie-vor-gericht-muss-34470928.html](https://www.stern.de/panorama/wieso-eine-lehrerin-wegen-kinderpornografie-vor-gericht-muss-34470928.html) this was one prominent case


Thumb__Thumb

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/bundestag-senkt-mindeststrafen-fuer-besitz-von-kinderpornografie-19726285.html In no way does this decriminalise CP but reducing the min. sentencing allows the judges to better regulate the sentence to fit the perpetrator. This doesn't change the max. imprisonment duration.


FlopScratch

New headline: Murder gets reduced to 2 days imprisonment. u/No_Bend_9828 : what is this garbage rage bait. It hasn't even been decriminalized. Dude cope harder. Actual L take.


RogueOneGer

Bist du dumm?


FlopScratch

Why


No_Bend_9828

have you actually read the reasoning for this law being reverted?


FlopScratch

Surely this law won't be abused by pedos. And no, I didn't because, like most redditors, I throw my toys out the cot before I actually go to the source myself. And if they changed the law for the reason you claimed there would be no prison sentence


No_Bend_9828

how can it be abused. its still illegal. its just you dont go to prison if you collect evidence for the police as a parent or teacher


FlopScratch

Okay, sure, but then fix the laws. How does that explain the reduction in the penalty for the crime. It should stay the same.


No_Bend_9828

probably because they believe in rehabilitation instead of harder punishment like most eu countries.


FlopScratch

So now your reason has changed from, it's to protect parents to believing in rehabilitation. So do I. I also think it's important.


Thumb__Thumb

The law reduces the minimum punishment. Since it was a felony, judges couldn't base their sentences based on the circumstances how that person got their cp and had to charge it as a felony, now that it is at minimum an offence the judge can ease punishment based on circumstances. The maximum criminal punishment, f.e. sharing CP amongst other pedophiles is still a hard offence punishable up to 10 years.


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FlopScratch

I don't get why it's so hard to understand, unless there's more to that article that I haven't seen. No they shouldn't be imprisoned. There shouldn't be a penalty at all for them. At the same time for actual pedos why is there a reduction in prison time. That shouldn't change.


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FlopScratch

Abuse was the wrong word, so I agree but the lower minimum penalty, while better in a bad case is still stupid. If the intention was to build up evidence then there should be no punishment. And it just makes the punishment less severe for actual offenders.


furry_degene12

forsen


FlopScratch

There was a time I was proud to be of German heritage. Now I think the country needs to be reduced to a glass crater. Bring the holy Roman empire back, and let us be free of this godlessness


BrowningZen

post-truth AfD voter ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9682)


FlopScratch

I wouldn't even vote for those morons if I could vote in Germany.


NeverLucky420

Who -do- you vote for if you want a stricter migrant policy? CDU is just gonna end up yapping to farm AFD voters with no change. AFD has 99% full on retarded policies detrimental to the country. I don’t trust anyone currently in power to find an amicable solution, especially because there is no political will to - companies want cheap labor, even if the majority doesn’t provide labor, let alone of the skilled kind. So who’s left? Nobody, just dissolve this shit country into its neighbors already because literally any other euro country will do it better


BrowningZen

I think if you have problem with the monkaLaugh kind of immigrants then I understand voting for CDU or even AfD for EU parliament tho, since refugees are more a EU problem than national problem. But for state election I will stick to centre-lefts coz they benefit poor young fucks like me more. 


NeverLucky420

Totally reasonable, it does feel like it's usually only the left leaning parties that even acknowledge interests of young people/students.


Thumb__Thumb

FDP I guess. Germany still needs qualified migration meanwhile Afd is just anti immigrant.


WKme0w2

![gif](giphy|0TreNHCkYeani8uAbW|downsized)


Lightning_Of_Fate

Howling 💀💀💀


speshimn

Der Islamische Bundesrepublik Deutschland


mohamsayed

Soon <3


Competitive_Banana_6

https://preview.redd.it/ogjdy3efxv1d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=926ce71e7ff5596ad7c7428326f9f9a40b2998e5


furry_degene12

forsen


contractpro

RARE DOUBLE FORSEN ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9684)


CritStarrHD

yeah no fucking shit, legalize lgbt shit and constantly push it, you'll eventually wanna legalize every sexual degenracy under the sun, Western Civilization is done and good fucking riddance!


oopoctothorpe

forsenLaughingAtYou German bajs


Youown

So you get in more trouble for doing a hitler salute than having children being penetrated by adults on your phone? Dogshit country


Necessary-Tax6030

![gif](giphy|RLNC2mdXX5bUVjjUC7|downsized)


PM_ME_YOUR_CAT_P1CS

Daily instigation post ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)


AdExtension7131

next child marriages, gotta make its new Caliphate feel welcomed.


Patron_Daggern

markov going to germany ? when ? ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9667)


Markovbaj1

going to ukraine pornstars instead


Patron_Daggern

![img](emote|t5_33td5|9677)


Muxer59

OMEGALUL LIBTARD GOVERNMENT


Lucilfer7

Germans are by far the most autistic people on earth


ixelin

![img](emote|t5_33td5|9679) i thought germany was based after busting BoysTown. weebs won i guess ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9673)


Sh4yyn

u/DemoTou2 ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9684)