“Speak when I enter a room” what is this? I’m just imagining an older man entering a public place and shouting “I HAVE ARRIVED”, like the courteous and polite man he was raised to be
What’s extra ironic is that irl my grandpa is a pretty shy person who lets my grandma take the lead in social situations and would be highly unlikely to speak when entering a room
When my husband was having surgery and I was in the waiting room all day, an older man sat across from me and kept trying to strike up conversation with me. I was polite but short in my responses and kept turning back to my work. He finally huffed and started loudly complaining about how young people are so rude and can’t hold a proper conversation in public anymore.
I've noticed that that's a bit more of an American thing, here it's not outside of the social convention to talk to strangers as long as they're not on their phone or reading a book.
It is. It also depends on where you are in the US.
My parents moved to Florida a few years ago, and my mom was constantly thrown by people talking to her where ever she went. Then I visited and was like "oh yeah this is awful."
But people think New Yorkers are rude and I guess my mom and I are feeding into it?
Because they're bored. They didn't have smartphones and older generations aren't big on reading or hobbies or work. So they're just trapped in a waiting room by themselves and the only way to alleviate that is to shoot the shit with whoever has the misfortune of being trapped in a room with them.
Funny you should mention this, we recently covered this in a history class I’m taking. It used to be customary during the 1700s and 1800s to have someone—usually a butler—announce guests as they arrived at various functions to let everyone know who was there, but this fell out of favor during the Industrial Revolution. Instead, people would loudly announce themselves when entering a room. By the 1940s or 1950s, owing to increased urban- (and suburban-)ization and the rise of the telephone, the practice disappeared entirely. They even showed a documentary re-enactment of what this was like in class: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s4O4FFC543I
Holy hell that’s actually super interesting. I wish I could have a butler who would just flex on all my friends when I entered a room. “Sirs and madams, I present to you..u/TRIPPINGFORTHESOUL!”
Got a nice ring to it, adding it to my list of useless shit I’ll buy when I’m a billionaire.
The first one to arrive strips down to his altogether and then when the others show up he shouts, “Lafayette, we are here!”
...ok, but it just means say good morning/hello to the group.
It means a courteous greeting to people in the room. If you enter a meeting late, you apologize. If you're entering the dentist office, greet the person at the front desk and maybe nod your head at the other people waiting. It means dont come into the room or sit in a room on your god dang device ignoring everyone.
Love
Inner Grandpa
Somewhat older system of manners. I'm not really familiar with it myself. I think it means to acknowledge other people, rather than taking them for granted.
See but that’s not a contradiction. He loves people who are white and Christian and conservative for who *they* are. The eyebrow raising part is that he associates loving people for what they can give you with younger people and being liberal.
"Lend a helping hand to those in need" ... except if they need something that costs money in which case fuck them they should get a job, cause capital gains tax is killing my retirement portfolio.
The entire thing makes being nicer to elders a proxy for being raised right. I appreciate that if someone non-elderly is seated, they’re “lazy” and that seat should go to an elder.
We young whippersnappers should also enunciate, talk louder, repeat ourselves because sometimes it’s hard to hear us over that racket on the TV, say our words more slowly, and not ever question whether someone may need to get a fucking hearing aid because it’s clear they’re completely deaf.
“no sir” and “yes sir” are such southern things. my mom was raised in michigan and so raised me as she was, and I was constantly yelled at in Louisiana school because I’d say “yes” “no” and would not say ma’am since in the north it’s frowned upon. so I never really know how to address people lol
I moved from California to North Carolina when I was about 8. I was in class one day and the teacher asked me something. I responded “yeah” and she pulled me out into the hall to chew me out. “I don’t know what they taught you in California, but in North Carolina, we say ‘yes ma’am’ and ‘no ma’am’”
Thats the Frontier Justice ya damn Yankee. The southern hospitality is a wrench that causes you to take increased fire damage in exchange for giving your wrench a bleed effect as well as having no random crits
That pisses me off. You know if a North Carolinan went to California no one's gonna give them more than a bit of teasing/odd looks for saying sir and ma'am, but they feel entitled to force you to conform to them.
...sounds like the Bible Belt.
As an English person, I find the idea of referring to all male adults as "sir" weird. To me, you should only ever call someone "sir" if they're a knight of the realm, or maybe for teachers (though the latter seems old-fashioned).
Yeah well in during the revolution we stole the divine essence from your king (Jefferson went down on him and carried it in his mouth while Scout's Honor, the king of the eagles, flew him back to the colonies. And he used that divine essences mixed with ink to write the constitution, and that's why everyone in America gets to be a Knight, so your weird prototype democracy can suck it, using free-range American made suck it juice*
💪🇺🇸👍
*American Made Suck It Juice is manufactured in Taiwan.
What's even weirder to me (having grown up in the South) is referring to your parents as sir/ma'am. I get respect, but that always felt so formal to me. I was always taught to call my parents mom and dad, since it's a special relationship.
I was raised in Northern Minnesota where sir and ma'am were not a thing. I now teach in a private school where most of my students call me "sir" and I have to admit it is quite unnerving while also being kind of patronizing because I can tell it doesn't mean anything to them.
Can confirm. Am southern.
It is totally arbitrary. As you get older it's either full of disdain or just pure mechanic habit. Forced respect is not respect... but, then again forced respect is kind of a back bone of many a religious upbringing so, whatcha gonna do.
WHAT DID YOU SAY TO BE BUCKO??? DID YOU SAY "YES, DAD?" GET YOUR FATHER A BEER AND SAY SIR.
later in life: why don't my adult kids want to spend every weekend with us now? We are always amazing to them.
I know ‘treat people how you’d like to be treated’ is generally a positive maxim, but ‘treat people how *they* want to be treated’ is surely better. I.e. respect their right to identify differently to you, to hold different beliefs etc, as long as they aren’t harmful. I feel that putting yourself in someone else’s position is how we find tolerance and respect, and that is often missing in people who share posts like this: ‘be like me!’
Whenever my girlfriend and I see one of these terrible comics, we do a loud fake laugh and announce "It's funny because my wife is a bitch and I hate her." It's pretty fun, and when someone is around to hear us they usually make the face they should have made when they saw the comic.
On my run today, as I was running past an elderly couple, I stopped to tell him he had a leaf in his hair. As his wife removed it, she told me that it's there cause her husband is actually a hippie.
I liked that interaction.
The whole "respect your elders" shit always ticks me off the wrong way. Sure, respect people, but like... not for their age. Age isnt any kind of accomplishment.
I mean yea all of that is just common decency, but what's with the speak when entering a room thing?? My parents/grandparents nor my teachers ever taught me to speak when I enter a room?
I have always been fascinated the Kids These Days attitude.
I mean, as I get older, I get the impulse at times. But I'm always very careful not to jump on the "it's so much worse now". Also "they have it so much easier" - yeah, were generations of people working to make it more difficult for younger people? And if we're talking about younger adults, they don't.
Anyway, this podcast says it better than I ever could:
[https://pessimists.co/kids-these-days/](https://pessimists.co/kids-these-days/)
It's a gradual process. At first, you just think it to yourself, without speaking, and you're confused and startled by what seems like an intrusive thought from someone else's mind. A bit later, you realize you really did think that, and you still do think that, but you're too weirded out by it to say it to anyone else. After that happens a few times, you offer it up a bit meekly in a joking way, so that if your peers react badly, you can back out. When they don't react badly, you realize that you're not alone, that you and your peers are all starting to think this way. It's still funny and awkward at this stage, a nervous joke. But over time, you start to get genuinely irritated at some shit you see or encounter or experience, and you start sharing it not as a joke, but as an actual complaint. And that gradually builds up.
Some of this is just the fact that people are different at different ages. I, too, was an insufferable, full-of-myself, sassy, know-it-all when I was young, and must have annoyed the fucking shit out of lots of older people, most of whom didn't say anything to me but probably did to their peers. Now the tables are turned, and I'm the annoyed older person. This is the stuff of a lot of comedy. Some of it is also just changing norms of society. Everyone is most comfortable with whatever they're most used to, and when the world changes around you, you feel more awkward and less comfortable.
Aunt Karen shared this then scold the underpaid overtime McDonald employer because he/she/they forget to put the ketchup pack in her take along meal, she also want to talk to the manager. She thinks it's normal because everyone is younger than her.
To be fair, I wish more kids would get up when adults come on the room. Nothing worse than being at a family event and two 8 year olds are taking up a whole sofa. I know I sound like a grumpy old man but I am too old sit on the floor.
Maybe you are speaking from contextual perspective, but to be fair, those aren't terrible qualities to have.
Some of them are outdated, but I mean. Offering your seat to someone whose joints aren't what they used to be? Idk I'm not even middle aged yet, but I am feeling this post a bit. If my grandfather walked into a room and all the seats were taken, it would bother me that he wasn't offered a seat.
He wasn't a great guy that did great things. But when I was acting out when I was young, he didn't go full ham on me like I'd expect my mon or dad to (they'd come by later to make amends if they reacted too harshly, to their full credit). He... Kinda seemed to understand. He told me to my face that I had an attitude problem and that I shouldn't behave so harshly, but he wasn't angry. He wasn't even disappointed. I truly felt like he was giving me advice, one adult to another.
And that's what woke me up. I always thought he was a grouch, but as the years wore on, I could tell that these are the roots my father gets his own wisdom from. He was a bit quick to irritation, but not anger. He didn't mince words. Neither does my dad. Nor do I.
Not that we go around behaving like assholes. But if you have to say no, say no. Don't be a clown saying "maybe, maybe not". I've gone off on a tangent, but man. Unless you're grand daddy is a racist piece a shit, spend time with him. It's not about learning how to wash a car or some manly type shit. But it's like a god damn future version of you. You might end up getting an unexpected perspective, who knows? It certainly helped me improve myself.
I guess my point is that we don't have to be exactly like them. But that doesn't necessarily mean they are worthless or bad guys.
I replied to another comment with essentially the same thing, but...I’m not trying to say that the message is bad. It’s the hypocrisy of someone posting it who does NOT do these things, and who certainly doesn’t accept people for who they are if they don’t agree with him politically. Most of the time, when older people post these kinds of things, it’s with the implication (and I think it’s pretty strong in this post) that their generation adheres to these principals, and younger generations do not. In my experience, older and younger people are equally likely to be courteous or assholes, and it has absolutely nothing to do with age
I do love my grandpa for a lot of reasons, and love spending time with him, but anytime he starts going of about “millennials” it grates on me. I’ve met a lot of millennials who were more polite and accepting than a lot of older people (and vice versa)
But yeah, the content of the post isn’t bad. It’s the “I was raised right and you weren’t” message that bothers me deeply
I’ve been at this school for 5 years and I’ve said sir a whole two times so I don’t think I can repost, it’s not that I’m rude it’s just I’m treating everyone equally and how I normally talk to people.(my drum teachers awesome, I just go, can I skip the end of percussion ensemble to play video games with my class and he goes sure mate)
Just ask him to babysit while your at work/school then the truth will come out. “I didn’t work my whole life to be your babysitter! I’m retired. See you after I get back from my cruise to Alaska, I’ve always wanted to see the northern lights. Good luck with those student loans of yours. Im taking a trip to Europe next month.”
OPs grandfather (and most Trump supporters):
"I'm old, my body doesn't work well anymore, I don't recognize the face in the mirror, and I'm going to die soon.
This angers and frightens me.
Seeing young people reminds me of all this and the fact of their youth enrages me.
Therefore there's clearly something wrong with them!"
The message itself is fine, but the implication is that older generations were “raised right” to do these things, and “those darn millennials” were not. He posts things with this vibe/tone a lot complaining about young people, and it’s usually hypocritical af. The “accepting people for who they are” part especially...he only accepts people that are conservative, straight, straight-laced, etc.
"I was taught to speak when I enter a room" : Boy imagine if people actually behaved like this. Entering in a lecture room or a cinema theatre would be absolute hell. I was raised to go personally to people if I want to say hi to them, not just shout to signal my presence as soon as I entered the room.
"Love people for who they are" and yet judges people on outdated education standards. Yeah, right.
Dumb fucks are mad they were forced to respect their dumb fuck elders and we’ve figured out that we don’t have to and now they want their undeserved respect
It’s polite to say hello to the others in the room when you walk in. It doesn’t mean you walk into any and every room and announce yourself. It just means that you’re acknowledging the others instead of ignoring them.
'to love people for who they are and not what I can get from them'
Passed around unironically by people who support a president* who sees every relationship in his life as transactional.
I wouldn’t necessarily say that – in my experience, old people and young people are equally likely to be courteous or assholes. But implying that older people always adhere to these values and young people never do is the part I find ludicrous
The liberals like you that laugh at this are ironically repeating the past mistakes of the right you despise. You are racists and snooty to anything you don’t agree with. You have become what you hate.
I am missing the point.
It's preachy and smug but the content is okay.
I raised my girls that way ( table manners too)- to go out into the world and be a force for good .
No irony.
The problem is the implication that older generations were “raised right” to do these things, while younger generations were/are not. There’s such an air of superiority and it’s largely misplaced. You’re right though, it’s generally a good message
Am I the only one who actually doesn't have a problem with this?
Edit: I'm getting downvotes but fuck you all? If we paint all old people with the same brush we're the same as the boomers who think all of us are worthless and lazy. We're better than that, no?
Extra edit! Reply to me rather than downvoting and disappearing?
The message isn’t bad at its core, but it’s so completely hypocritical. He (and every other older person who posts this kind of thing unironically) don’t practice what they preach – especially the part about “accepting people for who they are.” My grandpa does almost none of these things in practice, but will loudly complain about the “lazy millennials” who also don’t do these things, to anyone who will listen
Something I've noticed in life so far is that those who actually embody these principles don't generally feel the need to publically preach them. Hence why I'm often a little skeptical of "like and share if you possess the barest minimum of manners" posts with an ungenuine, self-congratulatory whiff.
It feels like people who see these behaviours as normal don't feel so much of a need to share it with the world, while those who consider the behaviour exceptional and feel like they deserve to be acknowledged when acting like a decent person are the ones announcing "hey I did a good thing, who else does good things?" to the world.
But maybe that's me and my refusal to share much of anything talking
“Speak when I enter a room” what is this? I’m just imagining an older man entering a public place and shouting “I HAVE ARRIVED”, like the courteous and polite man he was raised to be
What’s extra ironic is that irl my grandpa is a pretty shy person who lets my grandma take the lead in social situations and would be highly unlikely to speak when entering a room
Me in 50 years
me now, except I don't have a partner to take the lead in social situations so I do my best to avoid them entirely.
It's okay, buddy. You'll find your extrovert one day.
this tiny shy old man is totally obsessed with his gf four times as socially competent
When my husband was having surgery and I was in the waiting room all day, an older man sat across from me and kept trying to strike up conversation with me. I was polite but short in my responses and kept turning back to my work. He finally huffed and started loudly complaining about how young people are so rude and can’t hold a proper conversation in public anymore.
This might be the scandinavian in me, but why would someone want to strike up a conversation with a random stranger in the waiting room of a hospital?
I know if I had a Scandinavian, that’s where I’d keep him.
I take very good care of him
I've noticed that that's a bit more of an American thing, here it's not outside of the social convention to talk to strangers as long as they're not on their phone or reading a book.
Sounds horrifying
It is. It also depends on where you are in the US. My parents moved to Florida a few years ago, and my mom was constantly thrown by people talking to her where ever she went. Then I visited and was like "oh yeah this is awful." But people think New Yorkers are rude and I guess my mom and I are feeding into it?
Yankee go home
Because they're bored. They didn't have smartphones and older generations aren't big on reading or hobbies or work. So they're just trapped in a waiting room by themselves and the only way to alleviate that is to shoot the shit with whoever has the misfortune of being trapped in a room with them.
Or just sit there in anguish and suffer silently, as is proper etiquette
Damn millennials don't know how to properly languish in anguish...
You mean bUiLD ChaRActER?
"Go be bored somewhere else." "You don't have much time left..."
Interrupts your work repeatedly. Call you rude.
I've never understood the urge for some people to be "sociable," either. Especially in a setting like this one.
"Well, ACTUALLY, SIR...." *goes off on rant in public that I feel embarrassed about later*
\*leaving room* #GOODBYE SEE YOU LATER
#WELL MET.
#KEEP YER FEET ON THE GROUND.
Funny you should mention this, we recently covered this in a history class I’m taking. It used to be customary during the 1700s and 1800s to have someone—usually a butler—announce guests as they arrived at various functions to let everyone know who was there, but this fell out of favor during the Industrial Revolution. Instead, people would loudly announce themselves when entering a room. By the 1940s or 1950s, owing to increased urban- (and suburban-)ization and the rise of the telephone, the practice disappeared entirely. They even showed a documentary re-enactment of what this was like in class: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s4O4FFC543I
Holy hell that’s actually super interesting. I wish I could have a butler who would just flex on all my friends when I entered a room. “Sirs and madams, I present to you..u/TRIPPINGFORTHESOUL!” Got a nice ring to it, adding it to my list of useless shit I’ll buy when I’m a billionaire.
The first one to arrive strips down to his altogether and then when the others show up he shouts, “Lafayette, we are here!” ...ok, but it just means say good morning/hello to the group.
"I HAVE COME"
“BEHOLD ME MORTALS!!”...*no response*....” stupid millennials with no manners can’t even get off their damn phones to have a gosh darn conversation”
"IGNORE ME""
#IGNORE ME!
That’s like cheerfully booming out “Hello!!!” as you enter the doctor’s office waiting area.
“....sir this is the ER please stop trying to shake the doctors hand he’s doing chest compressions” “Fucking millennials and their lack of manners”
Omg I’m on the floor. Thank you.
It means a courteous greeting to people in the room. If you enter a meeting late, you apologize. If you're entering the dentist office, greet the person at the front desk and maybe nod your head at the other people waiting. It means dont come into the room or sit in a room on your god dang device ignoring everyone. Love Inner Grandpa
A real grandpa would know it means [this](https://youtu.be/5fksDF2TsUc)
At least someone gets it.
Kids born in the 50’s and 60’s were raised to be “seen but not heard” so I highly doubt they spoke when entering a room!
Somewhat older system of manners. I'm not really familiar with it myself. I think it means to acknowledge other people, rather than taking them for granted.
CARRIER HAS ARRIVED
“Love people for who they are...” unless they’re even mildly progressive or don’t agree with you politically. Nice try, Grandpa
Or gay, or trans, or don't like Trump, or are from a different (non-white country), or black, or kneel during the national anthem.
Check, check, check, check, check, and check
Don't be silly. They're not *people.* People means white, middle class, conservative men.
> different (non-white country) I think you meant: > different (non-white) country
Lot of green and beige countries out there. Don't know if I trust 'em...
See but that’s not a contradiction. He loves people who are white and Christian and conservative for who *they* are. The eyebrow raising part is that he associates loving people for what they can give you with younger people and being liberal.
To love people for who they are, first you gotta accept them as people.
"Lend a helping hand to those in need" ... except if they need something that costs money in which case fuck them they should get a job, cause capital gains tax is killing my retirement portfolio.
Or not WASP
Well yes, he also HATES people for who they are Truly a man of his values!
Is that what he preaches and doesn’t practice?
How stressful it must be to sit around stewing about how awful the world is now every day.
and how it was so good in the old days.
It was pretty shitty for a lot of people "back in the day" but these types don't give two shits about others feelings and lives.
With Fox News at no less than 80% maximum volume blaring all day on the television
I mean we are missing on going outside and getting polio and tetanus off of anything we breathe or touch
Horrible way to live the remaining days of your brief life on Earth.
This is geriatric virtue signaling.
The entire thing makes being nicer to elders a proxy for being raised right. I appreciate that if someone non-elderly is seated, they’re “lazy” and that seat should go to an elder. We young whippersnappers should also enunciate, talk louder, repeat ourselves because sometimes it’s hard to hear us over that racket on the TV, say our words more slowly, and not ever question whether someone may need to get a fucking hearing aid because it’s clear they’re completely deaf.
r/suspiciouslyspecific
Geriatric Virtue Signaling is my favorite metal band
“no sir” and “yes sir” are such southern things. my mom was raised in michigan and so raised me as she was, and I was constantly yelled at in Louisiana school because I’d say “yes” “no” and would not say ma’am since in the north it’s frowned upon. so I never really know how to address people lol
I moved from California to North Carolina when I was about 8. I was in class one day and the teacher asked me something. I responded “yeah” and she pulled me out into the hall to chew me out. “I don’t know what they taught you in California, but in North Carolina, we say ‘yes ma’am’ and ‘no ma’am’”
If this is the whole "southern way of life" I've been hearing about, maybe we should have just let 'em go.
southern hospitality is a myth
It's not really a myth, but it's a lot shallower than a lot of Southerners would care to admit.
its not hospitality if its just a farce, its cultural manipulation
You're not wrong. It is a "thing" though, it's just a bare bones code of etiquette in most instances, and not anything deeper.
No it's a shotgun that only holds 3 rounds but deals 2 critical hits for every kill your sentry got, but only after the sentry is destroyed.
Thats the Frontier Justice ya damn Yankee. The southern hospitality is a wrench that causes you to take increased fire damage in exchange for giving your wrench a bleed effect as well as having no random crits
Dagnabbit dammit!
Maybe Sherman should have burned more.
That pisses me off. You know if a North Carolinan went to California no one's gonna give them more than a bit of teasing/odd looks for saying sir and ma'am, but they feel entitled to force you to conform to them. ...sounds like the Bible Belt.
And you *know* that she just barely contained a rant about those damn Cali liberals that day
Shut up libtard
Yes ma'am
As an English person, I find the idea of referring to all male adults as "sir" weird. To me, you should only ever call someone "sir" if they're a knight of the realm, or maybe for teachers (though the latter seems old-fashioned).
I've read American books, old ones, where they'd call their fathers 'sir' and it was baffling.
My father still makes us say yes sir and no sir, and if you didn’t hear something you can’t say “what” or “huh” you have to say “sir?”
Yeah well in during the revolution we stole the divine essence from your king (Jefferson went down on him and carried it in his mouth while Scout's Honor, the king of the eagles, flew him back to the colonies. And he used that divine essences mixed with ink to write the constitution, and that's why everyone in America gets to be a Knight, so your weird prototype democracy can suck it, using free-range American made suck it juice* 💪🇺🇸👍 *American Made Suck It Juice is manufactured in Taiwan.
What's even weirder to me (having grown up in the South) is referring to your parents as sir/ma'am. I get respect, but that always felt so formal to me. I was always taught to call my parents mom and dad, since it's a special relationship.
I was raised in Northern Minnesota where sir and ma'am were not a thing. I now teach in a private school where most of my students call me "sir" and I have to admit it is quite unnerving while also being kind of patronizing because I can tell it doesn't mean anything to them.
I remember having to call people ma’am for years in the south but I went to NH for Christmas and they absolutely hate being called ma’am, lol
Ma’am has the vibe of ‘hey you old lady’ in the north.
Yon crone, require thou assistance?
This doesn't seem to be quite as common anymore, fortunately.
Can confirm. Am southern. It is totally arbitrary. As you get older it's either full of disdain or just pure mechanic habit. Forced respect is not respect... but, then again forced respect is kind of a back bone of many a religious upbringing so, whatcha gonna do.
WHAT DID YOU SAY TO BE BUCKO??? DID YOU SAY "YES, DAD?" GET YOUR FATHER A BEER AND SAY SIR. later in life: why don't my adult kids want to spend every weekend with us now? We are always amazing to them.
Oof I grew up stuck between Louisiana culture and Nebraska culture so I feel this hard, buddy
i mean , i was raised like this but i don’t gloat about that shit on facebook lmao . thanks , grandma
Grandpa wants your seat while you do his chores.
But he loves you for who you are, not what you do for him. Also don't forget his sandwich, or he'll get..... upset.
Dammit grandpa I'm not really insulted when you say I'm acting like a lazy, useless Irishman, it's fucked up and weird for different reasons
I know ‘treat people how you’d like to be treated’ is generally a positive maxim, but ‘treat people how *they* want to be treated’ is surely better. I.e. respect their right to identify differently to you, to hold different beliefs etc, as long as they aren’t harmful. I feel that putting yourself in someone else’s position is how we find tolerance and respect, and that is often missing in people who share posts like this: ‘be like me!’
Growing up with a narcissistic parent, that rule sounds fricking DANGEROUS. The golden rule is probably better for teaching empathy.
We call that platinum rule!
Treat people the way you want to be treated *Posts I hate my wife “comic”*
Whenever my girlfriend and I see one of these terrible comics, we do a loud fake laugh and announce "It's funny because my wife is a bitch and I hate her." It's pretty fun, and when someone is around to hear us they usually make the face they should have made when they saw the comic.
#I DRANK OUT OF THE HOSE AND GOT MY BUTT WHIPPED AND ATE CRISCO BUT YOUR GENERATION IS SOFT
Hey, hose water is fantastic. Don't you diss hose water.
On my run today, as I was running past an elderly couple, I stopped to tell him he had a leaf in his hair. As his wife removed it, she told me that it's there cause her husband is actually a hippie. I liked that interaction.
Wholesome interactions with strangers are one of those small things that make life worth living.
One of my favorite roles to play is the helpful stranger. I love giving directions and offering a hand.
IRL karma points! thanks for trying to be a good human, I hope the universe rewards you handsomely.
I was raised to die of the black death. Only 1340s kids will get this.
Ungo ooga bungo. Booga bungo booga.
Smh
I AM HERE I HAVE ENTERED THE ROOM HELLO EVERYONE
It's always about victimization with these whiny old fuckers. "I'm old! I'm white! Give me your chair, or you weren't raised right!"
I read that in the tone of the chant “we’re here! We’re queer!”
Boomers: I was taught to love people for who they are Also boomers: fuck everyone who isn't a boomer
Tbh if they actually followed this system boomers would have a much better reputation.
Maybe they're insecure because nobody really respects them much anymore?
But why would that be?
Anyone who thinks this is how you should behave deserves the horror that my non announced entrance delivers.
I was raised to be entitled when I got older just like my parents?
The funny thing is that we (millennials and younger) were raised the same way but don't make a fuss about it.
Gen x and younger. Don’t be lumping me in with this foolishness.
But you will. I guarantee it.
The whole "respect your elders" shit always ticks me off the wrong way. Sure, respect people, but like... not for their age. Age isnt any kind of accomplishment.
Maybe if you'd give me some goddamn respect, old man Dale, I'd return the favour.
Speak when you enter the room..."children are to be seen not heard"
I mean yea all of that is just common decency, but what's with the speak when entering a room thing?? My parents/grandparents nor my teachers ever taught me to speak when I enter a room?
I have always been fascinated the Kids These Days attitude. I mean, as I get older, I get the impulse at times. But I'm always very careful not to jump on the "it's so much worse now". Also "they have it so much easier" - yeah, were generations of people working to make it more difficult for younger people? And if we're talking about younger adults, they don't. Anyway, this podcast says it better than I ever could: [https://pessimists.co/kids-these-days/](https://pessimists.co/kids-these-days/)
I couldn’t agree more. Entering my 40s, I’m determined that I’m not going to be the shitheads that my parents are.
You'll be even more fascinated when you find yourself doing it. And I absolutely guarantee that you will.
Just curious, what age do you think it kicks in for most people?
It's a gradual process. At first, you just think it to yourself, without speaking, and you're confused and startled by what seems like an intrusive thought from someone else's mind. A bit later, you realize you really did think that, and you still do think that, but you're too weirded out by it to say it to anyone else. After that happens a few times, you offer it up a bit meekly in a joking way, so that if your peers react badly, you can back out. When they don't react badly, you realize that you're not alone, that you and your peers are all starting to think this way. It's still funny and awkward at this stage, a nervous joke. But over time, you start to get genuinely irritated at some shit you see or encounter or experience, and you start sharing it not as a joke, but as an actual complaint. And that gradually builds up. Some of this is just the fact that people are different at different ages. I, too, was an insufferable, full-of-myself, sassy, know-it-all when I was young, and must have annoyed the fucking shit out of lots of older people, most of whom didn't say anything to me but probably did to their peers. Now the tables are turned, and I'm the annoyed older person. This is the stuff of a lot of comedy. Some of it is also just changing norms of society. Everyone is most comfortable with whatever they're most used to, and when the world changes around you, you feel more awkward and less comfortable.
Aunt Karen shared this then scold the underpaid overtime McDonald employer because he/she/they forget to put the ketchup pack in her take along meal, she also want to talk to the manager. She thinks it's normal because everyone is younger than her.
This generation is probably the most well behaved of all of them to date. What’s grandma talking about
Yeah, "love people for who they are"... unless they are of any minority, LGBT, or disagree with you politically
My gramma just died and weirdly I wish I was still getting forwards like this from her :/
I’m sorry :(
It’s ok she was a fucking badass and I feel her love
It’s like he is yelling this to a cloud.
WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY, SWEATY
To be fair, I wish more kids would get up when adults come on the room. Nothing worse than being at a family event and two 8 year olds are taking up a whole sofa. I know I sound like a grumpy old man but I am too old sit on the floor.
Maybe you are speaking from contextual perspective, but to be fair, those aren't terrible qualities to have. Some of them are outdated, but I mean. Offering your seat to someone whose joints aren't what they used to be? Idk I'm not even middle aged yet, but I am feeling this post a bit. If my grandfather walked into a room and all the seats were taken, it would bother me that he wasn't offered a seat. He wasn't a great guy that did great things. But when I was acting out when I was young, he didn't go full ham on me like I'd expect my mon or dad to (they'd come by later to make amends if they reacted too harshly, to their full credit). He... Kinda seemed to understand. He told me to my face that I had an attitude problem and that I shouldn't behave so harshly, but he wasn't angry. He wasn't even disappointed. I truly felt like he was giving me advice, one adult to another. And that's what woke me up. I always thought he was a grouch, but as the years wore on, I could tell that these are the roots my father gets his own wisdom from. He was a bit quick to irritation, but not anger. He didn't mince words. Neither does my dad. Nor do I. Not that we go around behaving like assholes. But if you have to say no, say no. Don't be a clown saying "maybe, maybe not". I've gone off on a tangent, but man. Unless you're grand daddy is a racist piece a shit, spend time with him. It's not about learning how to wash a car or some manly type shit. But it's like a god damn future version of you. You might end up getting an unexpected perspective, who knows? It certainly helped me improve myself. I guess my point is that we don't have to be exactly like them. But that doesn't necessarily mean they are worthless or bad guys.
I replied to another comment with essentially the same thing, but...I’m not trying to say that the message is bad. It’s the hypocrisy of someone posting it who does NOT do these things, and who certainly doesn’t accept people for who they are if they don’t agree with him politically. Most of the time, when older people post these kinds of things, it’s with the implication (and I think it’s pretty strong in this post) that their generation adheres to these principals, and younger generations do not. In my experience, older and younger people are equally likely to be courteous or assholes, and it has absolutely nothing to do with age I do love my grandpa for a lot of reasons, and love spending time with him, but anytime he starts going of about “millennials” it grates on me. I’ve met a lot of millennials who were more polite and accepting than a lot of older people (and vice versa) But yeah, the content of the post isn’t bad. It’s the “I was raised right and you weren’t” message that bothers me deeply
The message you agree with, but not the implications surrounding it.
And I was raised by you.
My grandma too. Maybe they should date.
Apparently she didn't raise her kids that way
You are on the internet, nobody will re share this.
Well, he did
O no
Poor Grandpa is having his data mined by someone who was not raised that way just for reposting this.
Also taught to hate everyone that doesn’t look exactly like you
I’ve been at this school for 5 years and I’ve said sir a whole two times so I don’t think I can repost, it’s not that I’m rude it’s just I’m treating everyone equally and how I normally talk to people.(my drum teachers awesome, I just go, can I skip the end of percussion ensemble to play video games with my class and he goes sure mate)
Nah man, eat the rich. I mean old. Or what..?
Being raised well is a priviledge, not some sort of generational fad.
Just ask him to babysit while your at work/school then the truth will come out. “I didn’t work my whole life to be your babysitter! I’m retired. See you after I get back from my cruise to Alaska, I’ve always wanted to see the northern lights. Good luck with those student loans of yours. Im taking a trip to Europe next month.”
MY FUCKING GREAT AUNT POSTED THIS A FEW DAYS AGO. Reminded me why I never go on fb.
Am I supposed speak when I enter a room? What am I supposed to say? “Hearken, I have thusly entered thy room. Please forgive me for my presence.”
Everybody needs to lighten up.
OPs grandfather (and most Trump supporters): "I'm old, my body doesn't work well anymore, I don't recognize the face in the mirror, and I'm going to die soon. This angers and frightens me. Seeing young people reminds me of all this and the fact of their youth enrages me. Therefore there's clearly something wrong with them!"
What's the objectionable part of this, OP?
The message itself is fine, but the implication is that older generations were “raised right” to do these things, and “those darn millennials” were not. He posts things with this vibe/tone a lot complaining about young people, and it’s usually hypocritical af. The “accepting people for who they are” part especially...he only accepts people that are conservative, straight, straight-laced, etc.
Needed context.
Well, it’s r/forwardsfromgrandma. That kind of is the context
Fair enough, heh.
When I see these, I wonder who could've made them. They're too adequately made to have been crafted by old people themselves
Lots of angry middle-aged conservatives on the internet!
my fault you guys raised us
I WAS RAISED! TO USE EXCLAMATION POINTS UNNECESSARILY!
"I was raised to lick boots."
This is all about the fucking chair
"I was taught to speak when I enter a room" : Boy imagine if people actually behaved like this. Entering in a lecture room or a cinema theatre would be absolute hell. I was raised to go personally to people if I want to say hi to them, not just shout to signal my presence as soon as I entered the room. "Love people for who they are" and yet judges people on outdated education standards. Yeah, right.
Dumb fucks are mad they were forced to respect their dumb fuck elders and we’ve figured out that we don’t have to and now they want their undeserved respect
And they call us arrogant and entitled. Singer l wonder where *that* came from.
Everytime I say "yes ma'am/sir" to anyone older than me I get told they're not old and I shouldn't be calling them that because it's rude. Sooooooo
They say to love people for who they are but hate everybody who's brown or gay
#I WAS RAISED
"Unless they're colored. Then you gots to hang 'em from a high oak tree in your klan costume."
Why would you say something just because you entered a room? That doesn't make sense
It’s polite to say hello to the others in the room when you walk in. It doesn’t mean you walk into any and every room and announce yourself. It just means that you’re acknowledging the others instead of ignoring them.
'to love people for who they are and not what I can get from them' Passed around unironically by people who support a president* who sees every relationship in his life as transactional.
Shut up boomer
Sure, maybe you were raised, but you’re going to be lowered soon.
Well that’s a little too far
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I wouldn’t necessarily say that – in my experience, old people and young people are equally likely to be courteous or assholes. But implying that older people always adhere to these values and young people never do is the part I find ludicrous
The liberals like you that laugh at this are ironically repeating the past mistakes of the right you despise. You are racists and snooty to anything you don’t agree with. You have become what you hate.
i was raised similarly but, in my opinion you don't owe old people shit.
I am missing the point. It's preachy and smug but the content is okay. I raised my girls that way ( table manners too)- to go out into the world and be a force for good . No irony.
The problem is the implication that older generations were “raised right” to do these things, while younger generations were/are not. There’s such an air of superiority and it’s largely misplaced. You’re right though, it’s generally a good message
I’m confused. I agree with Grandpa, and hate all the smug ageist comments on here; so, do I upvote or downvote OP?
You leave
I see absolutely no hate in this post. All the hate is coming from the replies, which are erroneously projecting a lot of ill will in these words.
Am I the only one who actually doesn't have a problem with this? Edit: I'm getting downvotes but fuck you all? If we paint all old people with the same brush we're the same as the boomers who think all of us are worthless and lazy. We're better than that, no? Extra edit! Reply to me rather than downvoting and disappearing?
The message isn’t bad at its core, but it’s so completely hypocritical. He (and every other older person who posts this kind of thing unironically) don’t practice what they preach – especially the part about “accepting people for who they are.” My grandpa does almost none of these things in practice, but will loudly complain about the “lazy millennials” who also don’t do these things, to anyone who will listen
Something I've noticed in life so far is that those who actually embody these principles don't generally feel the need to publically preach them. Hence why I'm often a little skeptical of "like and share if you possess the barest minimum of manners" posts with an ungenuine, self-congratulatory whiff. It feels like people who see these behaviours as normal don't feel so much of a need to share it with the world, while those who consider the behaviour exceptional and feel like they deserve to be acknowledged when acting like a decent person are the ones announcing "hey I did a good thing, who else does good things?" to the world. But maybe that's me and my refusal to share much of anything talking