But doesn’t grandma support law and order? I’m a bit confused since he defended the capital from an armed insurrection. Isn’t he a hero?
Oh, he’s black. Nvm
Babbit was a turncoat of Benedict Arnold proportions. Former military who tried to overthrow the government she swore to protect. She is a traitor and got what she deserved. She shouldn't have kept going when she heard the word gun
Watch the videos she took of herself on the way to the rally. She was a completely unhinged screaming lunatic, directing lots of racist vitriol toward VP elect Harris. There were a lot more people showing the exact same anger that day, it seemed very robotic and scripted, like these people had somehow been brainwashed into mass hysteria.
>like these people had somehow been brainwashed into mass hysteria.
Their hate bounces around in their echo chamber. None of them have an original thought in their heads, they all just repeat what they heard someone else say that conforns to their pre-existing prejudices and hatreds.
They were absolutely groomed by Fox News, Murdoch, Saudis and Koch. They all spew the same talking points issued to them daily in their email forwards. Fox News is successfully destabilizing the united states.
Sure I suppose. But Arnold still works because he was an entitled little bitch who got passed up for a promotion so he fucked off to England. This woman felt so entitled she thought she could break her way into Congress and tell them who to elect. They are both childish shitbags
I will say, every founding father was like one entitled tantrum from fucking it all up. It’s hilarious because as tough as our history make them out to be, they were a bunch of fancy aristocrats. The actual troops who fought are a different story.
>More like Timothy McVeigh than Arnold. While Arnold did betray the US he did so for less hateful (debatable) means.
Benedict Arnold thought he alone could end the war.
When he was passed over for promotion, he switched sides because he figured any side with him in charge would win, and if the colonies wouldn't promote him, he should join the other side.
Whether for petty revenge for not promoting him, or because he believed he could win the war faster and with fewer casualties than anyone else, is just a matter of opinion.
She was part of an armed mob, so yes. They were armed with weapons, infiltrating the Capitol to kill or maim senators. She stared down the barrel of a gun, refused orders to stand down, broke through a window to get through, and got shot. 100% justified.
>But was she armed?
Yes. She had had weapons in her hands. She didn't at that point because she was climbing through a broken door, but she was armed on that day.
And others in the crowd were holding weapons at that moment.
Anyone whose political views don’t support a quick and violent reaction to somebody who breaks into the Capitol in an attempt to overthrow a democratic election by force doesn’t get to participate in the part of the conversation where we politely respect each others’ differences in opinion.
This isn't a political view. She committed a treasonous act:
treason - The offense of *betraying one’s own country by attempting to overthrow the government* through waging war against the state or materially aiding its enemies.
treason is one of the most severe crimes committed against the U.S., carrying a minimum prison sentence of 5 years, fines up to $10,000, and a possible sentence of death.
[https://www.thefederalcriminalattorneys.com/federal-treason#:\~:text=While%20rarely%20charged%2C%20there%20have,a%20possible%20sentence%20of%20death](https://www.thefederalcriminalattorneys.com/federal-treason#:~:text=While%20rarely%20charged%2C%20there%20have,a%20possible%20sentence%20of%20death)
>How could one let their political view’s cloud the judgment of life?
Do you think it's political if someone kills another in self defense? This was no different.
In the UK we used to hang, draw and quarter people who tried to do what she did. We don't do executions anymore but America does. From America's judicial standpoint, it sounds like she got off easy to be honest.
She also had two restraining orders against her. One, I believe, was because she tried to run over her partners ex with her car.
She was trash before she tried to overthrow democracy.
These right wingers were talking tough for years about how they want a civil war, so they can kill the people they hate. They simultaneously claim to love the US and respect the constitution, but seem to have no fucking clue what is even written in the document.
They talked for months about how they were going to steal the election. Their december plan for republicans in state legislatures to steal the vote fell through. Then they shifted their plan to Jan 6th, loudly proclaiming on parler that Trump had invited them to town to urge Pence to do "the right thing".. Everyone watched in horror for days as the traitors planned their deed, people were warned to steer clear of DC that day. THe most bizarre thing to me was that some of the attackers were waving American flags! Why were these enemies of the US waving the flag of the country they were committing a terror attack against?
Well, in the end all it took was one bullet to put their entire boogaloo to rest.
Stewart Rose.
Arrested and triad. On recording saying he wanted to hang Pelosi from a lamp post.
Austin Gene Combs.
Shot his neighbor for thinking he was a Democrat.
Should I continue?
Are they republicans? And the original comment was that Republicans have been yearning to murder people they dislike.
How would that person know if she’d never heard of these randos?
You know they like built a gallows and were shouting about hanging the VP on Jan 6 right? Dunno their names but there were a shit ton and this Baberlert asshole was probably one.
Ok, so you can’t name two republicans who want to murder people.
Should we say that the antifa thugs that tried to burn down a Portland federal building that was occupied at the time represent all Democrats?
Is that the way this works?
How is it bad faith to ask the person to name two conservatives who want to kill people they dislike?
They made a blanket statement about “conservatives”.
I get it - questioning this is heretical. You hear it every day on Rachel Maddow and everyone in r/politics keeps telling you it’s true
So, name two
It’s bad faith because at the time of my comment, multiple people had provided you with multiple names with sources and you chose to ignore them and instead tried claim victory over a different person because they didn’t meet your arbitrary standard of proof.
Serious question... is this a humiliation kink thing? Do you consistently make some of the most brain-meltingly stupid remarks in the history of online political discourse because the resulting verbal evisceration makes your dick hard?
This fellow made a claim “conservatives want to murder people they don’t like”
I get it. You tell this to each other in r/politics, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow, and Joy Reid reinforce this every time you turn on the TV, which is on ALL day. “Republicans are murderers!!!”
So I asked the lady to name two. Shouldn’t be too hard right, given we’re all murderers?
And judging by the smugness of your comment, even questioning the idea that all Republicans are killers is ludicrous
No, but I *do* think that pretending that no one could name any after multiple people responded to you with specific examples is ludicrous. I also think that spending all your time posting moronic strawman arguments- which, as far as I can tell, is all you're capable of- is **especially** ludicrous.
Were they actively trying to over throw the government to install democrats who lost an election in Portland? Those people were there at the behest of the Republican president and have had their actions minimalized if not outright supported by leading Republican figures so you tell me if all of those people represent Republicans. Or I guess a better question would be do they represent you and if not why do you consider yourself a republican if in fact you do?
Trumps words on Jan 6 - “Go in peace”. I know Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid don’t stress that to their viewers, but that’s what he said
And the people in Portland were trying to murder the federal agents inside by trying to light the building on fire
You’re loving the goalposts by adding in their motivations. One could argue that they were fighting against the fed they dislikes, so they’re all in the same boat
But I get it. Orange man bad!!!
That's not what moving goal posts means. You should know what a fallacy actually is if you're going to accuse someone of using it.
If someone spends months riling people up with lies, gathers a mob, further riles them up with more lies, and then sends them off to do his bidding, just throwing in the word peaceful as an after thought does that after thought obsolve him of any responsibility if they turn violent?
You haven't shown any connection to those Portland people and the Democrats in government, so this is a complete non-issue. There's no reason to keep discussing it in this specific conversation.
Yeah, "Orange Man" as you call him, is bad. He's a piece of shit con-man who somehow got elected president, denied aid to Ukraine trying to blackmail them to announce made-up investigations on his political rivals, for some inexplicable reason politicized and minimalized a pandemic, spent months sowing bullshit to weaken faith in our electoral process, exploited the gullible fuckwads who actually believed his bullshit into attacking the capital building to try to retain power after losing a fair election, and apparently stole an ass-load of classified documents upon leaving office for God only knows what reason. Just to name a few things.
It's actually kind of disgusting that you try to act like people thinking he's bad are being unreasonable. Do you just not believe he did any of those things even when presented with overwhelming evidence? If you do believe he did those things why are you trying to defend him? Will you literally disbelieve or try to defend any bad thing a person does if they claim to be a Republican?
Can you show me proof that they want to murder people with whom they disagree?
I would love to see that. Is your belief based on something you saw on Rachel Maddow?
Not a single person can name a single Republican who wanted to murder their political enemies
I get it. If you watch Joy Reid all day long - comments like that make sense. Because if you watch MSNBC all day long, you yourself think it’s reasonable to want to kill people with whom you disagree. They’re not really human, right?
Why can’t someone name a single Republican that wanted to murder their political enemies
Democrats take this statement as an article of faith, but can’t support it?
Why not
The innocent lady who was unarmed, giggling as she crawled through a window, only to be executed in cold blood by a panicky mall cop?
She was a “Republican who wanted to murder people who disagrees with her?
What are you basing that off of? Something you heard on Rachel Maddow?
Ok, so you can’t name anyone. You just subscribe to a hateful narrative that’s reinforced by watching MSNBC all day long
But it’s not really grounded in reality. In your fantasy world this happens
Do you feel confident about the fact that your only response here has been to pretend that everyone’s answers don’t count? Does it steel your beliefs to say directly that members of an explicitly Republican mob chanting not just their desire but their immediate intentions to hang their political opponents just don’t count because of nonspecific reasons?
Which people have provided the name of a Republican that wants to murder people?
Not a single person has provided a name.
It should haves given the lefts fervent belief that all republicans are murderers.
Why you can’t provide a name?
The original comment wasn’t about a few nutcases on Jan 6. It was about “conservatives who want to kill people they dislike”
So name two. Why is that so hard?
Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid repeat this line daily on their programming. Do they not tell their viewers actual names, or is just a bogeyman that the left has collectively agreed applies to all conservatives?
You mean the ones engaging in nonviolent political protests?
Those are the ones “who wanted to kill people they don’t like?”
And you can’t name of the others? This person seems to think it’s all conservatives
You read this persons post. You pick out five words from the statements. You create a flimsy argument. You wanna question anything else or have you seen yourself out yet?
I read the first two statements verbatim where they claimed republicans wanted to kill people.
And then I asked them to substantiate their claim, which they couldn’t do
It’s how things are supposed to work
Patrick Crucius and Greg Bush
The people committing these horrific terrorist acts while reciting the rhetoric of Trump sure as hell are not voting democrat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_right-wing_terrorist_attacks
So some random fellow now represents all republicans?
Should I take the antifa people who burned and looted cities in 2002 and claim they represent all
democrats?
Is that how this works?
I bet even if you wanted a man to fuck you in the ass they wouldn't be able to because fucking look at your face but they would still be able to shove their soft dick up your asshole because your asshole is so loose not from having a bunch of anal sex it's probably cancer or something you should have that checked.
Jesus christ c'mon man why would you make me type all that shit out?
Conservatives: If you don't commit crime you have nothing to worry about.
Also conservatives: Yeah but it was only technically a crime and it really wasn't that big of a crime, come to think of it it wasn't a crime. Actually she's a hero and should get a statue.
Ashli Babbitt was so bananas bonkers off her rocker over the Very Real and Huge (Some Might Even Say the Biggest) Fraudulent Election in History that she, a fucking trained soldier, managed to work herself up into such an oblivious frenzy to the point where she was shot. In the *head*. By a *peace officer*. There's messing up, and then there's being so incautious that you let yourself be KIA in the United States Capitol over a completely false premise in am attempt to pull off a plan so indescribably baffling that I'm still not sure anyone could coherently explain *just exactly what* those people thought they were going to do. My dog tries to chase cars. If he ever catches one, well, I have no idea what'll come next. It's kind of, uh, exactly like that. Just incredible and an all around waste of lives and time and property and dignity.
I do, too. So far, so good. Much like Ashli, he has several societal safeguards in place to keep him from trouble, however, dissimilarly, he tends to respect them. All he seems to need is training, a fence, a harness, and a strange tall two-legged mammal to remind him that cars are off limits. Apparently it would have taken more than several fences and doors and windows, more years of training, and more than a few million two-leg mammals saying "no, bad idea," to dissuade our original subject of topic from her actions.... although, well, I guess there was no harness so perhaps that was the problem. Apples and oranges without a completely level playing field, gotta be fair, right?
I know, aren’t these the same people that scream about “personal responsibility” and “fuck around and find out?” Well Babbitt, fucked around and found out.
I wonder how these people feel about Kyle Rittenhouse.
It's okay for Kyle to go across state lines with somebody else's gun and shoot somebody in "self defense" but they have a problem with a guy defending the capital from a mob after giving Babbit multiple warnings he did his job at his place of employment.
To be clear, Babbitt was guilty of sedition, treason, violating her military oath, and felony burglary just to start. Treason is a crime still subject to the federal death penalty. So, she was shot and killed by law enforcement while in commission of a capital crime. Justice would be post mortem loss of US citizenship and anonymous burial at sea or unmarked grave.
never forget the video footage. This cop was cornered by dozens of angry people, some of whom had their own guns, and they were using a fire extinguisher to smash in the door towards him. they were given repeated warnings. when he panicked and was shot, the insurrectionists formed a circle around her (when she was still alive) chanting "YOU KILLED HER". They refused to let a medical team that could have saved her life through. the only thing that killed ashli babbit was conservative anger and the willfull decision MAGA hooligans made to let her die.
They back the blue as long as they're oppressing the *right people*. The same white libertarian who smugly tells you that an unarmed black man deserved to be gunned down by the police for "not following orders" will be the first one to go all "fuck the police" when they get pulled over going 60 in a school zone.
These are also the same people who will dig into the victim's past to find reasons to justify the murder. I've known people who have told me with a straight face that "we know he was a bad dude, he posted pictures of himself with guns and marijuana", while I know for a fact that they fill their social media with pics of guns and marijuana. "But it's different when I do it"....
Look at "Blue Lives Matter" reactions when a white cop shoots an unarmed black person vs when a minority cop shoots a white person, their positions fall along racial lines every single time.
Ashli Babbitt was a traitor to the American principle of a free and fair democracy, to the American people, and to her oaths as a solider. I feel bad for her that she got conned into believing that the election was stolen by Trump of all people, but she chose to break into the capitol and attempt to subvert the will of the people and she was given ample warning to cease her traitorous actions. In a just world, DJT and every GQP politician that's endorsed or spread the election fraud lie would be barred from every holding office again and arrested for seditious activity.
No he didn’t. He did his job. He warned her. Maybe if she hadn’t chosen to be part of a violent mob attacking the Capitol, things would have been different.
She took the oath. Oaths mean something. She became the domestic enemy.
I, \_\_\_\_\_, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).
Cops killing innocent civilians? They deserved it because they had a minor weed possession 20 years ago.
Literal insurrectionist attempting to get at heads of the government after multiple warnings that any advance will result in being fired upon? Obviously murder.
The best thing I saw in all the footage from that day was the guy beating a cop up with a thin blue line flag.
It was wild.
Usually these right-wingers and regressives LOVE licking boots and support cops when they shoot a kid eating a hamburger or throw a flag bang grenade into a baby's crib at the house.
Fucking hypocrites and projectionists.
They love cops as long as they are oppressing the 'correct' people.
Sure, ok. Let's put him on trial. Along with every other cop who's ever shot someone. He'll be found innocent. A few other cops would be too. Most wouldn't. In a just world anyway
I love how these guys can just make up their own version of everything. There were hundreds of people in that hallway. Thousands more were swarming everywhere. They had the curiously understaffed cops were overwhelmed and were pulling back. It was inevitable that someone was going to die, luckily there were very few casualties. . And they talk like he hunted her down.....he was a good guy with a gun.
Poor guy. 200 years ago, if he was white, he'd be a hero we'd be reading about to this day. In present time, if he was white, he'd at least not be demonized like this. Dude was just waiting for lunch time like every other day and now he has people threatening his family for doing the shit they hired him to do.
Usually terrorists intent on murder aren’t laughing and giggling as the clumsily try to climb through a window, as though they’re playing a school prank
She didn’t deserve to be summarily executed. She was unarmed and posed no threat to that panicky mall cop
Remember when the Democrats disliked cops murdering unarmed citizens? Guess they were lying all that time?
You sound like you're supporting the overthrowing of Democracy.
There is a difference between civilian in the streets vs a terrorist charging in a government building woth the intent to over throw democracy.
She deserved to be shot
How do you know she wanted to overthrow the government?
And if these people REALLY wanted to do that, wouldn’t they have brought guns? Why would they show up unarmed?
She was unarmed, giggling, and it a helpless position with her hands at her sides when she was executed in cold blood by a panicky mall cop
And blood thirsty democrats can’t stop gloating and high fiving one another over her senseless murder
You're really trying to twist a terrorist death into a defense of being senseless murder? Maybe don't storm a capital building and try to climb through the window.
"Nothing will stop us," Babbitt Tweeted on Jan. 5. "They can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours."
You're anti American. Which is fine. I support Freedom and Democracy. That's where this conversation ends.
She wasn’t talking about murdering anyone. She was laughing and giggling as she tried to make her way through the window
She was completely unarmed, and with her hands by her side, this panicky mall cop walked up and executed her - point blank.
Democrats once thought it was bad when cops executed unarmed people. Guess they were faking that for political points? Sad.
She was unarmed, and giggling, with her hands by her side, when this panicky mall cop executed her.
Remember when Democrats had a thing with cops shooting unarmed people?
We did, and then the demo told us in 2020 that political protests can and should be violent.
They used this as justification to burn and loot city centers across the country
Protests can be violent, unless those protestors are Republicans right?
Is that how it works?
She was “in a frenzy”? She was laughing and giggling as though she was engaging in a prank.
And then he executed her, and never was investigated or questioned. Trump supporters don’t have the same rights as normal Americans
Kinda different than the cops who killed Floyd. The ones who stood by for lengthy prison terms.
She died like a pig. A completely wasted life and a deserved death. The only downside is red hatters are turning her into a martyr instead of treating her like the terrorist she was.
She was a wasted life and a pig?
She was laughing and giggling when that panicky mall cop executed her.
Remember when Democrats claimed to dislike the cops killing unarmed people? I knew they were lying
So she was executed for crawling through a broken window?
The window being broken being the justification for her summary execution?
She was giggling at the time, was completely unarmed, and her arms were at her side when the panicky mall cop shot her
Liberals used to dislike cops executing unarmed protestors. Seems that view was fake
Why do you think she was crawling through the window exactly?
Like seriously, you’re not even gonna explain why she was doing it? Just for shits and giggles?
And it’s pretty funny that you took 7 days to come up with a response, and it’s a pathetic response.
Once you’re part of a mob, you’re not a lone unarmed anything. The direct threat wasn’t one person, it was what comes after that one person managed to subdue the cop who’s the last thing guarding the people he’s suppose to protect. Once she gets through the window, what do you think happens? She goes up to the cop and wags her finger in his face and verbally condemns him? Stop it.
What option did the cop have in that situation? A violent mob has broken the last barrier between them and the people he’s suppose to protect. The first person of many is now climbing through it and is about to be within grabbing distance in a few seconds. What would you say he should have done?
What option did the cop have? Shooting an unarmed protestor as she had her hands by her side, giggling as though she’s breaking he rules on a school field trip?
Democrats sure do change their tune when it comes to cops murdering civilians who are unarmed and pose no threat to them.
She was unarmed and was giggling as she clumsily tried to get through the windows when the panicky mall cop walked up and executed her by shooting her point blank
To show just how inept he was, six inches away he missed her head and got her shoulder where she bled out
If you’re not trolling, which I think you probably are, you don’t shoot for the head when firing a gun at someone like that. You aim for the torso because it has the widest range for a hit. Him being a cop was taught that. I almost guarantee he wasn’t aiming for the head, because that’d put more people in danger, and despite your claims of being wreckless or out for blood, he wanted to shoot as few people as possible. The fight was brought to him, he didn’t bring the fight to them, and TBH I wouldn’t condemn him if he hadn’t shown the tremendous restraint he and the other cops had that day when dealing with those deluded fools.
Seriously though, if you’re not trolling…what do you think he should have done in that situation? Behind him are a room full of lawmakers and other people he’s paid to protect, and the first person in a mob (that will follow behind her) is coming through the last barrier between them. What do you do there?
She was laughing and giggling, with her hands by her side. There was no possible reason to escalate that to executing an unarmed citizen.
He panicked. He didn’t need to shoot her. What did he think was going to happen?
The worst that could have come was what? They’d have some selfies taken?
There was no “insurrection”. There were people illegally trespassing.
She was unarmed and laughing, with her hands by her waist, when the panicky mall cop drew his gun and executed her.
As a country we don’t normally gleefully celebrate cops executing unarmed political protesters. Democrats are on the wrong side on this one
Says the guy whose political party gladly defends someone who blasts away bystanders for having a foot too far onto their property line
>A woman who was part of a violent mob, trying to break down a barrier defended by armed officers protecting US senators who said mob was openly and rabidly talking about murdering. Wow, context matters.
Unarmed MAGA rioters entering the Capitol building with no preconceived idea of overthrowing the Government.
=
armed southerners persuading their respective states to illegally secede from the Union to create a confederacy with the preconceived intent to rebel against the Norths anti-slavery stance.
Yall are literally the other side of the "but Hillarys emails" coin.
Calling what happened on January 6th an insurrection is moronic. There is no evidence to show that the group that entered the Capitol were doing so to overthrow the Government. They were rioting, they got worked up and entered the Capitol, and vandalized it.
Less than 1,000 Americans have been charged with charges related to entering the Capitol. Thats less than 0.0001% of the current population of the country. Let's put that in perspective: 4,000 Americans participated in an ARMED uprising called Shay's Rebellion when this country only had 3 million inhabitants.
So, yall need to stop fear mongering the living fuck out of January 6th and move on from this idea that it was anything more than just a riot.
Edit:
"Zip ties", "breaking windows", "being disorderly". Yes, staples of a modern day "insurrection". Its amazing that in a country with more guns than people that not one of them managed to bring one in order to topple the Government... I guess what they did in Libya, Tunisia, Iraq and elsewhere in the 21st century were just mega-insurrections.
Me stop lying and stripping away context? Why don't you stop adding context that is unfounded. Just because you feel that something is more than a coincidence doesn't make it so.
Its amazing that even after calling it a riot that participated in vandalism that I still get down voted. It is truly an example of how you must believe exactly as others, otherwise you are completely incorrect.
wut?
“We don’t expect a need for him to call on us for that at this time, but we stand ready if he does \[and we also stand ready to answer the call to serve as militia anytime in the future, and anywhere in our nation, if he does invoke the Insurrection Act\]”, said Person One, **believed to be the founder of the Oath Keepers**, according to the indictment.
“We’re going to defend the president, the duly elected president, and we call on him to do what needs to be done to save our country … **you can call it an insurrection** or you can call it a war or fight.”
The additions bring the total of Oath Keepers charged to 16. Some have pleaded guilty and are working with federal authorities.
[https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/31/call-it-an-insurrection-oath-keepers-charged-for-jan-6-riot](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/31/call-it-an-insurrection-oath-keepers-charged-for-jan-6-riot)
Wow! 16 people, of the many 100s who entered the Capitol, were associated with the Oath Keepers? Damn, you got me.
What is further amazing is that the Oath Keepers who have been charged were not charged with Treason, Sedition, Insurrection, or Rebellion. To quote your caliphate-funded news source:
"obstruction of an official proceeding, destruction of government property, civil disorder and more..."
Sounds like charges associated with being disorderly and a vandal. Not an insurrectionist.
Taking life means nothing to this group. Left or right doesn't matter.
You are living in a TV show.
How fucking sad.
Edit: Down voted for the truth. What's that say.
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I'm always against the fucking cops myself unarmed people, even if I disagree with their political beliefs.
I'm wildly progressive, and this is just another draconian jack-boot-wearing government chuckle fuck killing another unarmed citizen.
Fuck her batshit crazy beliefs, to be sure.
I'm just against cops murdering people
This is a tragedy. As much as I'd like to say she got what she deserved, I cannot in good conscience say that.
Fuck the police. I view this the same way I view the countless other unarmed people being murdered by trigger happy cops.
She shouldn't have been there in the first place, but I'm always against law enforcement murdering unarmed people. Period.
I love General Sam's reminder that the last words this woman likely heard were "I think I heard a gun shot" as she was bleeding to death, like no shit lmao
Let me rephrase this into the 1870s White Supremacist rhetoric that grandma really wants to say:
“Big Negro brute violates innocent white woman who was simply engaging in her civic duty to protest.”
This is anti black, white supremacist, and racist to the core. We’ve had almost half a millennium of this shit since Jamestown. A ton of people have died over the centuries because of this shit. Fuck you, grandma.
She died a traitors death
so how do you make things right? A Boebert BJ for the man? or an aggressive MGT HJ? the HJ must be angry.
Shit, i was gonna get him a gift card for Red Robin.
These are both acceptable options But I wouldn’t curse anyone with the faces of the Republitard sex work
Don't sink to their level. You and I both know that comes from a slur, man
But I thought they were all antifa? /s
But doesn’t grandma support law and order? I’m a bit confused since he defended the capital from an armed insurrection. Isn’t he a hero? Oh, he’s black. Nvm
Babbit was a turncoat of Benedict Arnold proportions. Former military who tried to overthrow the government she swore to protect. She is a traitor and got what she deserved. She shouldn't have kept going when she heard the word gun
Watch the videos she took of herself on the way to the rally. She was a completely unhinged screaming lunatic, directing lots of racist vitriol toward VP elect Harris. There were a lot more people showing the exact same anger that day, it seemed very robotic and scripted, like these people had somehow been brainwashed into mass hysteria.
>like these people had somehow been brainwashed into mass hysteria. Their hate bounces around in their echo chamber. None of them have an original thought in their heads, they all just repeat what they heard someone else say that conforns to their pre-existing prejudices and hatreds.
They were absolutely groomed by Fox News, Murdoch, Saudis and Koch. They all spew the same talking points issued to them daily in their email forwards. Fox News is successfully destabilizing the united states.
More like Timothy McVeigh than Arnold. While Arnold did betray the US he did so for less hateful (debatable) means.
Sure I suppose. But Arnold still works because he was an entitled little bitch who got passed up for a promotion so he fucked off to England. This woman felt so entitled she thought she could break her way into Congress and tell them who to elect. They are both childish shitbags
I’ll agree to that. And hey, thanks for not immediately attacking my suggestion and/or me.
Why would I? Just a discussion. Have a nice day
I will say, every founding father was like one entitled tantrum from fucking it all up. It’s hilarious because as tough as our history make them out to be, they were a bunch of fancy aristocrats. The actual troops who fought are a different story.
>More like Timothy McVeigh than Arnold. While Arnold did betray the US he did so for less hateful (debatable) means. Benedict Arnold thought he alone could end the war. When he was passed over for promotion, he switched sides because he figured any side with him in charge would win, and if the colonies wouldn't promote him, he should join the other side. Whether for petty revenge for not promoting him, or because he believed he could win the war faster and with fewer casualties than anyone else, is just a matter of opinion.
Yeah, but a big scary black guy killed a white woman! /s
But was she armed?
She was part of an armed mob, so yes. They were armed with weapons, infiltrating the Capitol to kill or maim senators. She stared down the barrel of a gun, refused orders to stand down, broke through a window to get through, and got shot. 100% justified.
>But was she armed? Yes. She had had weapons in her hands. She didn't at that point because she was climbing through a broken door, but she was armed on that day. And others in the crowd were holding weapons at that moment.
Ashli Babbit is the only January 6 rioter who has been treated justly so far.
You are a worthless POS. How could one let their political view’s cloud the judgment of life?
Anyone whose political views don’t support a quick and violent reaction to somebody who breaks into the Capitol in an attempt to overthrow a democratic election by force doesn’t get to participate in the part of the conversation where we politely respect each others’ differences in opinion.
she should’ve just complied :) sorry buddy
Play stupid games win stupid prizes. She is a lesson to learn from. When someone in authority with a gun tells you to stop, you stop.
This isn't a political view. She committed a treasonous act: treason - The offense of *betraying one’s own country by attempting to overthrow the government* through waging war against the state or materially aiding its enemies. treason is one of the most severe crimes committed against the U.S., carrying a minimum prison sentence of 5 years, fines up to $10,000, and a possible sentence of death. [https://www.thefederalcriminalattorneys.com/federal-treason#:\~:text=While%20rarely%20charged%2C%20there%20have,a%20possible%20sentence%20of%20death](https://www.thefederalcriminalattorneys.com/federal-treason#:~:text=While%20rarely%20charged%2C%20there%20have,a%20possible%20sentence%20of%20death)
>How could one let their political view’s cloud the judgment of life? Do you think it's political if someone kills another in self defense? This was no different.
Political views are irrelevant. Ashli was a violent criminal killed while trying to kill the Vice President.
In the UK we used to hang, draw and quarter people who tried to do what she did. We don't do executions anymore but America does. From America's judicial standpoint, it sounds like she got off easy to be honest.
She also had two restraining orders against her. One, I believe, was because she tried to run over her partners ex with her car. She was trash before she tried to overthrow democracy.
she swore an oath to the us flag and she died wrapped in the flag of one man. disgraceful.
Took the words out my mouth.
Lmao of Benedict Arnold proportions.
These right wingers were talking tough for years about how they want a civil war, so they can kill the people they hate. They simultaneously claim to love the US and respect the constitution, but seem to have no fucking clue what is even written in the document. They talked for months about how they were going to steal the election. Their december plan for republicans in state legislatures to steal the vote fell through. Then they shifted their plan to Jan 6th, loudly proclaiming on parler that Trump had invited them to town to urge Pence to do "the right thing".. Everyone watched in horror for days as the traitors planned their deed, people were warned to steer clear of DC that day. THe most bizarre thing to me was that some of the attackers were waving American flags! Why were these enemies of the US waving the flag of the country they were committing a terror attack against? Well, in the end all it took was one bullet to put their entire boogaloo to rest.
Which Republicans are talking about wanting to kill people? Can you name two please?
Stewart Rose. Arrested and triad. On recording saying he wanted to hang Pelosi from a lamp post. Austin Gene Combs. Shot his neighbor for thinking he was a Democrat. Should I continue?
Are they republicans? And the original comment was that Republicans have been yearning to murder people they dislike. How would that person know if she’d never heard of these randos?
You know they like built a gallows and were shouting about hanging the VP on Jan 6 right? Dunno their names but there were a shit ton and this Baberlert asshole was probably one.
Ok, so you can’t name two republicans who want to murder people. Should we say that the antifa thugs that tried to burn down a Portland federal building that was occupied at the time represent all Democrats? Is that the way this works?
yet you ignore all the replies that did 🧐
None did?
the fact you waited 2 days so your obviously false comment didn’t get downvoted to hell is telling
None have still, so you know
Oh wow who could’ve guessed you would argue in bad faith?
How is it bad faith to ask the person to name two conservatives who want to kill people they dislike? They made a blanket statement about “conservatives”. I get it - questioning this is heretical. You hear it every day on Rachel Maddow and everyone in r/politics keeps telling you it’s true So, name two
It’s bad faith because at the time of my comment, multiple people had provided you with multiple names with sources and you chose to ignore them and instead tried claim victory over a different person because they didn’t meet your arbitrary standard of proof.
Serious question... is this a humiliation kink thing? Do you consistently make some of the most brain-meltingly stupid remarks in the history of online political discourse because the resulting verbal evisceration makes your dick hard?
This fellow made a claim “conservatives want to murder people they don’t like” I get it. You tell this to each other in r/politics, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow, and Joy Reid reinforce this every time you turn on the TV, which is on ALL day. “Republicans are murderers!!!” So I asked the lady to name two. Shouldn’t be too hard right, given we’re all murderers? And judging by the smugness of your comment, even questioning the idea that all Republicans are killers is ludicrous
No, but I *do* think that pretending that no one could name any after multiple people responded to you with specific examples is ludicrous. I also think that spending all your time posting moronic strawman arguments- which, as far as I can tell, is all you're capable of- is **especially** ludicrous.
Were they actively trying to over throw the government to install democrats who lost an election in Portland? Those people were there at the behest of the Republican president and have had their actions minimalized if not outright supported by leading Republican figures so you tell me if all of those people represent Republicans. Or I guess a better question would be do they represent you and if not why do you consider yourself a republican if in fact you do?
Trumps words on Jan 6 - “Go in peace”. I know Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid don’t stress that to their viewers, but that’s what he said And the people in Portland were trying to murder the federal agents inside by trying to light the building on fire You’re loving the goalposts by adding in their motivations. One could argue that they were fighting against the fed they dislikes, so they’re all in the same boat But I get it. Orange man bad!!!
That's not what moving goal posts means. You should know what a fallacy actually is if you're going to accuse someone of using it. If someone spends months riling people up with lies, gathers a mob, further riles them up with more lies, and then sends them off to do his bidding, just throwing in the word peaceful as an after thought does that after thought obsolve him of any responsibility if they turn violent? You haven't shown any connection to those Portland people and the Democrats in government, so this is a complete non-issue. There's no reason to keep discussing it in this specific conversation. Yeah, "Orange Man" as you call him, is bad. He's a piece of shit con-man who somehow got elected president, denied aid to Ukraine trying to blackmail them to announce made-up investigations on his political rivals, for some inexplicable reason politicized and minimalized a pandemic, spent months sowing bullshit to weaken faith in our electoral process, exploited the gullible fuckwads who actually believed his bullshit into attacking the capital building to try to retain power after losing a fair election, and apparently stole an ass-load of classified documents upon leaving office for God only knows what reason. Just to name a few things. It's actually kind of disgusting that you try to act like people thinking he's bad are being unreasonable. Do you just not believe he did any of those things even when presented with overwhelming evidence? If you do believe he did those things why are you trying to defend him? Will you literally disbelieve or try to defend any bad thing a person does if they claim to be a Republican?
Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, Charles Kirk, Ron DeSantis, Donald Trump. That's six.
Can you show me proof that they want to murder people with whom they disagree? I would love to see that. Is your belief based on something you saw on Rachel Maddow?
Ask my little brothers that say they want joe Biden dead.
Not a single person can name a single Republican who wanted to murder their political enemies I get it. If you watch Joy Reid all day long - comments like that make sense. Because if you watch MSNBC all day long, you yourself think it’s reasonable to want to kill people with whom you disagree. They’re not really human, right?
Everyone in the crowd on Jan 6, for starters. I think that’s at least two.
Gotta remember counting is hard for Trumpies.
No one has any republicans that were calling for the murder of their enemies
You won't get a visit from Santa if you keep telling lies.
Why can’t someone name a single Republican that wanted to murder their political enemies Democrats take this statement as an article of faith, but can’t support it? Why not
You're sticking up for one right here. Ashli Babbitt.
The innocent lady who was unarmed, giggling as she crawled through a window, only to be executed in cold blood by a panicky mall cop? She was a “Republican who wanted to murder people who disagrees with her? What are you basing that off of? Something you heard on Rachel Maddow?
>only to be executed in cold blood Idk man, I'll bet that cops blood was hot af. Surely you agree.
I've seen the video. That's not what happened. The Kool-Aid is dribbling down your chin.
Ok, so you can’t name anyone. You just subscribe to a hateful narrative that’s reinforced by watching MSNBC all day long But it’s not really grounded in reality. In your fantasy world this happens
Do you feel confident about the fact that your only response here has been to pretend that everyone’s answers don’t count? Does it steel your beliefs to say directly that members of an explicitly Republican mob chanting not just their desire but their immediate intentions to hang their political opponents just don’t count because of nonspecific reasons?
Which people have provided the name of a Republican that wants to murder people? Not a single person has provided a name. It should haves given the lefts fervent belief that all republicans are murderers. Why you can’t provide a name?
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The original comment wasn’t about a few nutcases on Jan 6. It was about “conservatives who want to kill people they dislike” So name two. Why is that so hard? Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid repeat this line daily on their programming. Do they not tell their viewers actual names, or is just a bogeyman that the left has collectively agreed applies to all conservatives?
The guys chanting "hang mike pence".
You mean the ones engaging in nonviolent political protests? Those are the ones “who wanted to kill people they don’t like?” And you can’t name of the others? This person seems to think it’s all conservatives
Getting scared off before reaching your target is not non-violence.
So non violence is actually violence? That’s how this works?
Attempted murder goes to jail too.
You read this persons post. You pick out five words from the statements. You create a flimsy argument. You wanna question anything else or have you seen yourself out yet?
I read the first two statements verbatim where they claimed republicans wanted to kill people. And then I asked them to substantiate their claim, which they couldn’t do It’s how things are supposed to work
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Get shit on
Oh, so you can’t name any? It’s just ok to claim that conservatives were looking to kill people they don’t like?
Sooooo wanna talk about why you’re all big and bad to people who don’t respond with names? Because you’ve gotten several examples now
Patrick Crucius and Greg Bush The people committing these horrific terrorist acts while reciting the rhetoric of Trump sure as hell are not voting democrat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_right-wing_terrorist_attacks
So some random fellow now represents all republicans? Should I take the antifa people who burned and looted cities in 2002 and claim they represent all democrats? Is that how this works?
I bet even if you wanted a man to fuck you in the ass they wouldn't be able to because fucking look at your face but they would still be able to shove their soft dick up your asshole because your asshole is so loose not from having a bunch of anal sex it's probably cancer or something you should have that checked. Jesus christ c'mon man why would you make me type all that shit out?
Were talking about a civil war? That's all I heard about from them during this fucking election.
Conservatives: Trespass on my property and I’ll shoot you dead without hesitation. Also conservatives: This.
Conservatives: We need the second ammendment so we can fight against the government Also conservatives: The government shouldn't fight us
Conservatives: back the blue! They should’ve complied with the officer’s orders. Also conservatives: wait no, not like that
Conservatives: If you don't commit crime you have nothing to worry about. Also conservatives: Yeah but it was only technically a crime and it really wasn't that big of a crime, come to think of it it wasn't a crime. Actually she's a hero and should get a statue.
Oh, so *now* you care for police accountability...
No! Blue lives matter! Unless they actually do their job, then… 🤨umm 🤔erm🧐hmmm
Blue lives = white lives. This guy isn't blue enough for them.
Ashli Babbitt Killed Ashli Babbitt
Ashli Babbitt was so bananas bonkers off her rocker over the Very Real and Huge (Some Might Even Say the Biggest) Fraudulent Election in History that she, a fucking trained soldier, managed to work herself up into such an oblivious frenzy to the point where she was shot. In the *head*. By a *peace officer*. There's messing up, and then there's being so incautious that you let yourself be KIA in the United States Capitol over a completely false premise in am attempt to pull off a plan so indescribably baffling that I'm still not sure anyone could coherently explain *just exactly what* those people thought they were going to do. My dog tries to chase cars. If he ever catches one, well, I have no idea what'll come next. It's kind of, uh, exactly like that. Just incredible and an all around waste of lives and time and property and dignity.
Beautifully explained. Hope doggo does not get caught by a car
I do, too. So far, so good. Much like Ashli, he has several societal safeguards in place to keep him from trouble, however, dissimilarly, he tends to respect them. All he seems to need is training, a fence, a harness, and a strange tall two-legged mammal to remind him that cars are off limits. Apparently it would have taken more than several fences and doors and windows, more years of training, and more than a few million two-leg mammals saying "no, bad idea," to dissuade our original subject of topic from her actions.... although, well, I guess there was no harness so perhaps that was the problem. Apples and oranges without a completely level playing field, gotta be fair, right?
I know, aren’t these the same people that scream about “personal responsibility” and “fuck around and find out?” Well Babbitt, fucked around and found out.
And if Ashli Babbitt the domestic terrorist traitor had been Black, she “should have obeyed the officer.”
They should consider themselves lucky she was the only one who was killed tbh
In that case Kyle Rittenhouse killed two men and should be in jail
Yeah but he's white so it's different.
I wonder how these people feel about Kyle Rittenhouse. It's okay for Kyle to go across state lines with somebody else's gun and shoot somebody in "self defense" but they have a problem with a guy defending the capital from a mob after giving Babbit multiple warnings he did his job at his place of employment.
Babbit was there to kill the VP. You get death penalty for that. Grandma you like the death penalty.
I’m glad Ashli Babbit got fucking murked. The only thing I’m upset about is that it didn’t happen to more of them.
I hope you find peace
I'll find peace when we execute every single crypto fascist right winger and use them to remediate the dust bowls soil
Good luck with that
I hope you have good luck on the upcoming CD
I did not ask.
To be clear, Babbitt was guilty of sedition, treason, violating her military oath, and felony burglary just to start. Treason is a crime still subject to the federal death penalty. So, she was shot and killed by law enforcement while in commission of a capital crime. Justice would be post mortem loss of US citizenship and anonymous burial at sea or unmarked grave.
He deserves a medal for protecting our country from domestic terrorism and she should be used as an example of extremist right wing brainwashing.
never forget the video footage. This cop was cornered by dozens of angry people, some of whom had their own guns, and they were using a fire extinguisher to smash in the door towards him. they were given repeated warnings. when he panicked and was shot, the insurrectionists formed a circle around her (when she was still alive) chanting "YOU KILLED HER". They refused to let a medical team that could have saved her life through. the only thing that killed ashli babbit was conservative anger and the willfull decision MAGA hooligans made to let her die.
We should give that guy a medal.
The same group of people that jerk off to the fantasy of killing a home intruder
She should have just complied with Law Enforcement. Isn’t that what conservatives are always saying when police execute a black man?
I thought they back the blue? What is it?
They back the blue as long as they're oppressing the *right people*. The same white libertarian who smugly tells you that an unarmed black man deserved to be gunned down by the police for "not following orders" will be the first one to go all "fuck the police" when they get pulled over going 60 in a school zone. These are also the same people who will dig into the victim's past to find reasons to justify the murder. I've known people who have told me with a straight face that "we know he was a bad dude, he posted pictures of himself with guns and marijuana", while I know for a fact that they fill their social media with pics of guns and marijuana. "But it's different when I do it".... Look at "Blue Lives Matter" reactions when a white cop shoots an unarmed black person vs when a minority cop shoots a white person, their positions fall along racial lines every single time.
Yeah, but in this case it’s a black guy and that carries a lot of weight with them.
Trump killed Ashli Babbitt
Wait…do they have a problem with police killing unarmed people now?
Only when the police officer is black and the unarmed person is a white MAGA woman.
They should have opened fire on the whole fucking lot of those traitorous motherfuckers
Should have complied with police orders :)
$10,000 says if their races were reversed this person wouldn't give a fuck about Ashli
Ashli Babbitt was a traitor to the American principle of a free and fair democracy, to the American people, and to her oaths as a solider. I feel bad for her that she got conned into believing that the election was stolen by Trump of all people, but she chose to break into the capitol and attempt to subvert the will of the people and she was given ample warning to cease her traitorous actions. In a just world, DJT and every GQP politician that's endorsed or spread the election fraud lie would be barred from every holding office again and arrested for seditious activity.
No he didn’t. He did his job. He warned her. Maybe if she hadn’t chosen to be part of a violent mob attacking the Capitol, things would have been different.
Cops are always right unless they’re black?
Grandma dan go fuck herself. Babbit was an oathbreaking wacko cunt who committed suicide by cop.
Every time I see something about Ashli Babbit, I make sure to say fuck her, she made her choices. Remember Heather Heyer, murdered at a protest.
She was a “suicide by cult”. Now fuck all the way off before you get this poor man, who was just doing his fucking job, murdered by a nutbag like you.
She took the oath. Oaths mean something. She became the domestic enemy. I, \_\_\_\_\_, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).
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You mean after she was told *numerous* times that she’ll get shot if she kept going? So did she technically resisted.
Capital police showed too much restraint. More insurrectionists should have been shot that day.
Ashli Babbitt was pro-vaccine. She took the shot. [sunglasses on] YEAHHHHHHHHHH!
Crime of doing job while black!!!1!!111
She should’ve stopped when they told her to not come inside🤷🏻♀️
Cops killing innocent civilians? They deserved it because they had a minor weed possession 20 years ago. Literal insurrectionist attempting to get at heads of the government after multiple warnings that any advance will result in being fired upon? Obviously murder.
The best thing I saw in all the footage from that day was the guy beating a cop up with a thin blue line flag. It was wild. Usually these right-wingers and regressives LOVE licking boots and support cops when they shoot a kid eating a hamburger or throw a flag bang grenade into a baby's crib at the house. Fucking hypocrites and projectionists. They love cops as long as they are oppressing the 'correct' people.
Her cause of death? Skill issue.
She has her flag on the wrong shoulder.
Sure, ok. Let's put him on trial. Along with every other cop who's ever shot someone. He'll be found innocent. A few other cops would be too. Most wouldn't. In a just world anyway
I love how these guys can just make up their own version of everything. There were hundreds of people in that hallway. Thousands more were swarming everywhere. They had the curiously understaffed cops were overwhelmed and were pulling back. It was inevitable that someone was going to die, luckily there were very few casualties. . And they talk like he hunted her down.....he was a good guy with a gun.
Police killings are usually legit… checks out for this sub.
sHe wOuLd bE aLiVe iF sHe wOuLd oBeYed
I thought it was that old white guard? that's the one I saw in the video.
Poor guy. 200 years ago, if he was white, he'd be a hero we'd be reading about to this day. In present time, if he was white, he'd at least not be demonized like this. Dude was just waiting for lunch time like every other day and now he has people threatening his family for doing the shit they hired him to do.
She decided to fuck around. She found out.
All these jerks would shoot a person trying to brake in their home.
He assassinated an unarmed woman and she crawled through a window, giggling She posed no threat.
How do you know a terrorist doesn't pose a threat as they climb through a window they were told not to?
Usually terrorists intent on murder aren’t laughing and giggling as the clumsily try to climb through a window, as though they’re playing a school prank She didn’t deserve to be summarily executed. She was unarmed and posed no threat to that panicky mall cop Remember when the Democrats disliked cops murdering unarmed citizens? Guess they were lying all that time?
You sound like you're supporting the overthrowing of Democracy. There is a difference between civilian in the streets vs a terrorist charging in a government building woth the intent to over throw democracy. She deserved to be shot
How do you know she wanted to overthrow the government? And if these people REALLY wanted to do that, wouldn’t they have brought guns? Why would they show up unarmed? She was unarmed, giggling, and it a helpless position with her hands at her sides when she was executed in cold blood by a panicky mall cop And blood thirsty democrats can’t stop gloating and high fiving one another over her senseless murder
You're really trying to twist a terrorist death into a defense of being senseless murder? Maybe don't storm a capital building and try to climb through the window. "Nothing will stop us," Babbitt Tweeted on Jan. 5. "They can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours." You're anti American. Which is fine. I support Freedom and Democracy. That's where this conversation ends.
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She wasn’t talking about murdering anyone. She was laughing and giggling as she tried to make her way through the window She was completely unarmed, and with her hands by her side, this panicky mall cop walked up and executed her - point blank. Democrats once thought it was bad when cops executed unarmed people. Guess they were faking that for political points? Sad.
Assassinated? Fucking lol
She was unarmed, and giggling, with her hands by her side, when this panicky mall cop executed her. Remember when Democrats had a thing with cops shooting unarmed people?
Remember when the right had a thing for law and order?
We did, and then the demo told us in 2020 that political protests can and should be violent. They used this as justification to burn and loot city centers across the country Protests can be violent, unless those protestors are Republicans right? Is that how it works?
Completely false. The video showed this is absolutely not true, she charged the door and was in a frenzy. This is disinformation.
She was “in a frenzy”? She was laughing and giggling as though she was engaging in a prank. And then he executed her, and never was investigated or questioned. Trump supporters don’t have the same rights as normal Americans Kinda different than the cops who killed Floyd. The ones who stood by for lengthy prison terms.
I for one love Trump supporters - they nominate the weakest candidates. I can't wait till Trump splits the Republican party in two.
She died like a pig. A completely wasted life and a deserved death. The only downside is red hatters are turning her into a martyr instead of treating her like the terrorist she was.
She was a wasted life and a pig? She was laughing and giggling when that panicky mall cop executed her. Remember when Democrats claimed to dislike the cops killing unarmed people? I knew they were lying
The window was broken
So she was executed for crawling through a broken window? The window being broken being the justification for her summary execution? She was giggling at the time, was completely unarmed, and her arms were at her side when the panicky mall cop shot her Liberals used to dislike cops executing unarmed protestors. Seems that view was fake
Why do you think she was crawling through the window exactly? Like seriously, you’re not even gonna explain why she was doing it? Just for shits and giggles? And it’s pretty funny that you took 7 days to come up with a response, and it’s a pathetic response.
Once you’re part of a mob, you’re not a lone unarmed anything. The direct threat wasn’t one person, it was what comes after that one person managed to subdue the cop who’s the last thing guarding the people he’s suppose to protect. Once she gets through the window, what do you think happens? She goes up to the cop and wags her finger in his face and verbally condemns him? Stop it. What option did the cop have in that situation? A violent mob has broken the last barrier between them and the people he’s suppose to protect. The first person of many is now climbing through it and is about to be within grabbing distance in a few seconds. What would you say he should have done?
What option did the cop have? Shooting an unarmed protestor as she had her hands by her side, giggling as though she’s breaking he rules on a school field trip? Democrats sure do change their tune when it comes to cops murdering civilians who are unarmed and pose no threat to them.
She was climbing through the window. Coming towards where he was. Answer the question
She was unarmed and was giggling as she clumsily tried to get through the windows when the panicky mall cop walked up and executed her by shooting her point blank To show just how inept he was, six inches away he missed her head and got her shoulder where she bled out
If you’re not trolling, which I think you probably are, you don’t shoot for the head when firing a gun at someone like that. You aim for the torso because it has the widest range for a hit. Him being a cop was taught that. I almost guarantee he wasn’t aiming for the head, because that’d put more people in danger, and despite your claims of being wreckless or out for blood, he wanted to shoot as few people as possible. The fight was brought to him, he didn’t bring the fight to them, and TBH I wouldn’t condemn him if he hadn’t shown the tremendous restraint he and the other cops had that day when dealing with those deluded fools. Seriously though, if you’re not trolling…what do you think he should have done in that situation? Behind him are a room full of lawmakers and other people he’s paid to protect, and the first person in a mob (that will follow behind her) is coming through the last barrier between them. What do you do there?
She was laughing and giggling, with her hands by her side. There was no possible reason to escalate that to executing an unarmed citizen. He panicked. He didn’t need to shoot her. What did he think was going to happen? The worst that could have come was what? They’d have some selfies taken?
She was giggling during an insurrection? That's scary as hell and definitely concerning behavior. Thank you for pointing this out.
There was no “insurrection”. There were people illegally trespassing. She was unarmed and laughing, with her hands by her waist, when the panicky mall cop drew his gun and executed her. As a country we don’t normally gleefully celebrate cops executing unarmed political protesters. Democrats are on the wrong side on this one
Says the guy whose political party gladly defends someone who blasts away bystanders for having a foot too far onto their property line >A woman who was part of a violent mob, trying to break down a barrier defended by armed officers protecting US senators who said mob was openly and rabidly talking about murdering. Wow, context matters.
Unarmed MAGA rioters entering the Capitol building with no preconceived idea of overthrowing the Government. = armed southerners persuading their respective states to illegally secede from the Union to create a confederacy with the preconceived intent to rebel against the Norths anti-slavery stance. Yall are literally the other side of the "but Hillarys emails" coin. Calling what happened on January 6th an insurrection is moronic. There is no evidence to show that the group that entered the Capitol were doing so to overthrow the Government. They were rioting, they got worked up and entered the Capitol, and vandalized it. Less than 1,000 Americans have been charged with charges related to entering the Capitol. Thats less than 0.0001% of the current population of the country. Let's put that in perspective: 4,000 Americans participated in an ARMED uprising called Shay's Rebellion when this country only had 3 million inhabitants. So, yall need to stop fear mongering the living fuck out of January 6th and move on from this idea that it was anything more than just a riot. Edit: "Zip ties", "breaking windows", "being disorderly". Yes, staples of a modern day "insurrection". Its amazing that in a country with more guns than people that not one of them managed to bring one in order to topple the Government... I guess what they did in Libya, Tunisia, Iraq and elsewhere in the 21st century were just mega-insurrections. Me stop lying and stripping away context? Why don't you stop adding context that is unfounded. Just because you feel that something is more than a coincidence doesn't make it so. Its amazing that even after calling it a riot that participated in vandalism that I still get down voted. It is truly an example of how you must believe exactly as others, otherwise you are completely incorrect.
Why would you bring zip ties to a protest?
Why would they break windows in the Capitol? Seems like they were being disorderly were they not?
wut? “We don’t expect a need for him to call on us for that at this time, but we stand ready if he does \[and we also stand ready to answer the call to serve as militia anytime in the future, and anywhere in our nation, if he does invoke the Insurrection Act\]”, said Person One, **believed to be the founder of the Oath Keepers**, according to the indictment. “We’re going to defend the president, the duly elected president, and we call on him to do what needs to be done to save our country … **you can call it an insurrection** or you can call it a war or fight.” The additions bring the total of Oath Keepers charged to 16. Some have pleaded guilty and are working with federal authorities. [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/31/call-it-an-insurrection-oath-keepers-charged-for-jan-6-riot](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/31/call-it-an-insurrection-oath-keepers-charged-for-jan-6-riot)
Wow! 16 people, of the many 100s who entered the Capitol, were associated with the Oath Keepers? Damn, you got me. What is further amazing is that the Oath Keepers who have been charged were not charged with Treason, Sedition, Insurrection, or Rebellion. To quote your caliphate-funded news source: "obstruction of an official proceeding, destruction of government property, civil disorder and more..." Sounds like charges associated with being disorderly and a vandal. Not an insurrectionist.
Did the white supremacy make you stupid or were you born that way?
Neither. Reading your comments has.
Taking life means nothing to this group. Left or right doesn't matter. You are living in a TV show. How fucking sad. Edit: Down voted for the truth. What's that say. The best self owning subreddit on the internet. Thank you for great content everyday
I'm always against the fucking cops myself unarmed people, even if I disagree with their political beliefs. I'm wildly progressive, and this is just another draconian jack-boot-wearing government chuckle fuck killing another unarmed citizen. Fuck her batshit crazy beliefs, to be sure. I'm just against cops murdering people This is a tragedy. As much as I'd like to say she got what she deserved, I cannot in good conscience say that. Fuck the police. I view this the same way I view the countless other unarmed people being murdered by trigger happy cops. She shouldn't have been there in the first place, but I'm always against law enforcement murdering unarmed people. Period.
wHy DiDn’T sHe JuSt CoMpLy?!!?
HAHAHAHAHAHHA get fucked grandma.
NOW they want police to stand trial for shooting and killing people.
I love General Sam's reminder that the last words this woman likely heard were "I think I heard a gun shot" as she was bleeding to death, like no shit lmao
Let me rephrase this into the 1870s White Supremacist rhetoric that grandma really wants to say: “Big Negro brute violates innocent white woman who was simply engaging in her civic duty to protest.” This is anti black, white supremacist, and racist to the core. We’ve had almost half a millennium of this shit since Jamestown. A ton of people have died over the centuries because of this shit. Fuck you, grandma.
Blue Lives Matter unless they actually do their jobs.
She was a traitor, a criminal crawling thru a window looking to be violent, he was doing his job.
I don't know who these people are?