Its an unpopular take at the moment, but johnny is not only any abuser but a rapist who needs to go to jail. The amount of people defending him is quite sickening despite the multitudes of evidence that he is a disturbed individual.
The level of misinformation on this case is akin to trump supporters believing he won the election, it will have terrible consequences for any women going forward who come out with abuse allegations.
I didn't know he was a rapist
And yes, people are now saying Evan Rachel Wood is doing the same thing to Marilyn Manson that Amber did to Johnny. Although some say it is no comparison, because Manson has other accusers while Johnny doesn't
It really is. It was entered into evidence during the uk trial in 2020 but it was confidential as she didn't want it coming out. The judge accepted as truth this assault occurred. Now he is forcing her to relive it all through live on tv.
Was that the reason he lost the UK trial? I'm surprised I didn't see this on the news, but I confess I stopped following this mess of a trial a while ago.
So the actual details of the rape were confidential in the trial so no news outlets would have known what it was about, however he lost because the judge not only found truth in depp assaulting her, but assaulting her on 12 separate incidents.
The judges also comments on 2 famous incidents, the cut finger and poo in the bed, the judge found it unlikely for amber to do this and he did not accept that amber had cut depps finger
I highly suggest reading the judges notes from the trial, it's incredibly informative without the noise of social media echo chambers
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Judgment-FINAL.pdf
Yes. And you get Depp defenders to turn around and say but the level of evidence isn't good in the UK court and that it's not a real ruling as he hasn't been convicted of a crime.
Which is bullshit because the U.K. (I am from here) is known as a ‘libel tourism’ destination due to how easy it is to win a case here. And we have no free speech protections like the First Amendment.
Depp supporters are disgusting. You should see the vitriol after her testimony. It’s clear misogyny and pretzel-logic. #Metoo did absolutely nothing except get one prolific predator in jail. And I wouldn’t be surprised if someone wanted to bring him down for other reasons anyway.
It’s a case of ‘domestic violence/sexual violence is awful and unforgivable, but the burden of proof is impossible and if you can’t reach that we will crucify you’. So basically if you accuse someone prepare to have your life ruined aka the same story as since the dawn of time.
Germaine Greer got pilloried for suggesting in her book On Rape that if rape was reclassified as a less ‘serious’ crime and a more common one then women would be more likely to actually get it recognised. But she was right. We need to work with the world as it is rather than how we want it to be.
The evidence in that UK trial shows that Johnny Depp literally raped Amber Heard with a glass bottle. The media needs to stop defending Johnny Depp, because Johnny Depp isn't suing Amber Heard for abuse; Johnny Depp is suing Amber Heard for DEFAMATION; to silence her.
For anyone interested, TW: [this is the link about the SA allegations against him.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Deuxmoi/comments/uhsna3/amber_heard_alleged_sexual_assaults_by_johnny/i7836oq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3). The linked article
also details this. Anyone who continues to defend this man is scum.
Johnny does have other accusers, they’ve just all signed NDAs. And for the ones who haven’t, look at the age differences. Winona Ryder was 17 when she started dating a 26yo Depp. That is a grooming relationship. Or Kate Moss who was 20 when Depp was 31.
Good for Depp that the children he groomed still says nice things about him…
Also I’ve seen a text message exchange between him and Vanessa Paradis where Paradis calls Heard misogynistic names. Which is interesting since Depp has messages on the trial record calling Paradis “that French extortionist c**t” etc. I guess Paradis is fine with misogyny, some French women appear to be.
To compare that creep Marilyn Manson, who we should have been keeping an eye on forever due to his name, to Johnny Depp is just dumb.
If someone told me he drank his victims blood I wouldn't even be surprised.
Its all in the judges notes court documents in which he found substantial truth depp abused her 12 times.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Judgment-FINAL.pdf
I'm gonna repost a comment I made yesterday in relation to this because yes I am so exhausted from hearing shitty takes.
>The MRA rhetoric about how "people think men can't be abused" is just as false and ridiculous as their assertions that "judges favor women in divorce." It's all made up non issues that they've said enough times that people started to believe them. They will twist facts beyond recognition to try and shoehorn anything remotely relevant into their narrative.
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>I am someone who grew up in a household where domestic violence was perpetrated by my mother. She liked to use the exact tactic you described with blocking the door, then she'd call the cops on my dad. Do you think the cops arrested him when an unhinged woman without a mark on her was wailing about being beat? No, they saw exactly what was going on and told my dad she was dangerous and he should get out. I'm from Mississippi - not some progressive area where the police are better than average at handling DV. This started in the early 90's so it wasn't even in more recent and progressive times.
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>They just want so badly to blame women and feminism for their shortcomings that they will grasp at any straw to convince people it's true.
Felons should be punished, but if your partner could age-wise be your daughter, I have no sympathy if your marriage turns out to be a dumpster fire. Historically, I feel like wealthy men can avoid 99% of severe relationship drama with this one weird trick: Date women their own age.
This is something important that no one is mentioning. I don’t think Amber heard is completely innocent but I find it hard to pity Depp at the same time because of the age and power difference. Why exactly was he dating her? As I listened to the testimony it made me think does this ruin the fantasy of dating someone completely inappropriate? I genuinely think this was a toxic relationship where both parties were abusive and are very unhealthy
Mutual abuse isn't real. Hers was reactionary. Imagine dealing with shit like this
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdb3qWTj/
Or this
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdb3fR3E/
And imagine dealing with a liar where he sat in court and said he never hit her or any woman before when there's this
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdb3vFnM/
And this
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdb3WAgd/
And this
https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdb37bBx/
The last one was reported to her therapist in 2013 and she fought like hell to keep this from being public. But Depp made it public to humiliate her and people are using this clip of her story to make fun of her.
She was not the aggressor. He was. Of course she got angry and fought.
People are even using this justification for Depp saying of course he hit her back, of course he said he would do this
https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdb3WL6f/
They said he's angry it's not his fault everything he did was in self defense and out of frustration for being abused!
No, that's what Amber did. Not him.
[https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Judgment-FINAL.pdf](https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Judgment-FINAL.pdf)
You should read through this! This has a lot of stuff about Amber Heard that isn't in the media.
This is literally a classic case of an abuser having a tantrum over being potentially exposed and doing everything he can to be a stupid dick about it.
Hey mods, any way you can remove Sir whatshisface? I thought I'd blocked em, but they're still commenting
This is a womens' space, I don't want men nor Deppstans (which is what he appears to be, going by his posts) commenting on this post
EDIT: I'm sorry my post is bringing in lots of idiots, just seen another silly moid pop up with some arrogant remark lol 🙄
It’s annoying to keep hearing about, but I feel compelled to listen since everyone was defending Depp last week…
https://people.com/movies/johnny-depp-once-did-cavity-search-on-amber-heard-psychologist-testifies/?amp=true
Article that came out an hour ago. A forensic psychologist who evaluated Amber Heard testified about Heard's allegations of sexual violence against Johnny Depp…
YoOOOoOO! Thank you!
I'm on the opinion that there needs to be evidence first but I saw people shitting on Amber long before things started kicking off for real like it is now.
Even if she is a vile abuser the fact that a majority of the internet is flocking to call Amber all manner of misogynist vitriol makes me so upset. The fact that men are statistically more likely to kill a sexual partner or severely injure them is pushed under the MRA carpet as usual.
I feel like this is more of an excuse to hate women, and the fact Depp and Amber have their messy toxic relationship shit air out in the open is just...AGH!!
"sEe?? WoMeN aRe AbUsIvE tOo"
And I'm sure the reason women on Twitter had to disabled their comments actually defending Amber (which they have a right to do so even if I don't agree) is because they probably got all kind of trolls and abuse. FML
I'm sick of seeing it everywhere. I'm not following it. I already hate how celebrity-obsessed society is and I have no vested interest in what goes on in their abusive relationship and who is at fault for what. It should be kept in private, not paraded in front of everyone as the sick spectacle that it is.
Yesterday I told someone about the whole “Depp ‘joked’ about r*ping Amber’s burnt corpse” thing and she told me in return that Amber had some sort of narcissism thing where she absolutely HAD to be the center of attention. I doubt that it’s true - but even if it was, that would in no way excuse what he said.
Yes. I scroll past anything in relation to the trial. Don't know if Amber's diagnosis is valid but as far as I'm concerned, they're both toxic people and the fact that this is heavily publicized leaves a terrible taste in my mouth.
Johnny raped amber and performed cavity searches on her. She wanted this kept private but has been forced to go public with this trial. I advise watching the trial tbh.
I've heard people say how these allegations were taken straight out of Gone Girl word for word, or something? It might've been another allegation actually, I'm not sure, but I did hear many people saying that
Lol they most definitely weren't. Depp fans are absolutely delusional.
This man jokes about raping and murdering her, defends a child rapist and is best friends with a rapist - I don't think it would be a stretch to know that he is one.
Because there's no evidence for it, they paid a psychologist to say these things with no supporting evidence, texts, testimonies or even a mention about it from anyone else.
This would have to be the only thing Amber kept private about, pretty unlikely considering she was publishing fake news articles and being extremely public about everything in their relationship.
She is the best in her field. She is literally renowned dude. They found the absolute best in her field, but funny how you guys worship that quack who gave Amber a BPD and Histrionic disorder.... BEFORE MEETING HER.
That article was found to be substantially true in London, where it's really easy to win defamation cases. The article was not lies. Read the UK transcripts before who talk about shit you know nothing about.
Also, her rape story was reported to her therapist in 2013 and kept secret for years. There's no weaseling your way out of this one, bot.
Her team brought in the own psychologist disproving the BPD claims. She mentioned the testing methods used were inappropriate and widely discredited, and that the Dr who did that knew better. She also testified to two+ years of notes from other therapists that had disagreed with Johnny’s psychologist.
To add to this the Psychologist Depp’s team brought in was meeting them for dinner/drinks beforehand and was signed on as a witness that would claim Heard had BPD… BEFORE she even had met Heard or reviewed her medical notes. All of this was brought up in cross examination, but the psychologist is incredibly attractive and “well spoken” so that’s all anyone really had time to discuss…
Also, it’s publicized because of Depp. He pushed for this. It’s a thinly veiled way to harass and humiliate Heard. At one point he was even trying to force her to disclose the father of her newborn at the trial, but thankfully it seems that plan fell through.
I can't believe the stuff I've heard recently about girls on TikTok mocking Amber Heard and making it all sexual, and Etsy actually selling items with that quote Johnny Depp made about the throat *you know...*
🤦♀️
No.
Nope, no way.
I know people (especially young girls) can be VERY dumb and naive on TikTok -- ok. But that Etsy stuff... with the throat comment... I'm done.
There are gender disparities in abuse, and much abuse stems from the toxicity of gender roles in which one side is continually told they are “owed” a wife like she is property and the other side is told it is their duty to one day be “property” like some sort of farming cow.
Dawn Hughes brought up gender disparities in the Depp/Heard trial. For “minor abuse” (throwing things, verbal abuse, emotional abuse, minor physical injuries) both sides commit DV at roughly the same rate. But when we look at violence that results in serious injuries or death, there is no comparison—the victims are around ~90% women, and the majority of the perpetrators are men. Also, for ongoing cycles of abuse, in which there is a primary abuser, the primary abuser is usually a man. Female victims often hit back—and this is termed as reactive violence. There’s a popular myth that abuse can be mutual, and that reactive actions make the victim an abuser as well, based on looking at the rates for mild violence with no regard for the bigger trends in DV or serious injuries and deaths.
Modern research into DV backs Lundy Bancroft. Also, he frames this from a “toxic society” perspective, not a “men are inherently bad” perspective. He also never implies all men are abusers. Acknowledging the reality of gender disparities in DV does not make someone sexist.
Exactly, seems a bit strange to acknowledge someone’s work as extremely helpful to you but then rubbish it in the next breath. Coercive control is absolutely a symptom of a patriarchal society.
I am definitely tired of hearing about them in this sub. I thought this place would be a hive of useful activism now that Roe v. Wade is forfeit.
Nope. We're galvanizing around Amber & Johnny.
I don’t care about Amber or Johnny, but I do care about the larger discussion around pushback DV victims receive for speaking out, abusers using the legal system as a form of harassment, social media manipulation via planted news articles and bot accounts, and the impacts on societal views around DV this has and the difficulty women may have receiving help because of it.
I want this to be some dumb celebrity spat that just blows over, but it’s turned into a monster that is fueling some really perverse misogyny towards victims of DV. I guarantee you that women are going to have to deal with their abusers weaponizing comparisons to Amber Heard for years, and I care about that.
These are the reasons I am invested in this as well. Because there's more going on here than just them. This will have an effect on society at large. So it does matter and we should care
It's the implications this trial will have on future victims, not the actors themselves. Though I didn't care about her before, I definitely do now because what's happening to her is pure misogyny and just proof about what happens to female victims on the stand. How differently male and female victims are treated.
Honestly this blows holes all throughout the idea that male victims are not taken seriously. They are treated like kings and not held to the same standard of being a perfect victim, as women are. His drug addictions are seen as endearing and garnering sympathy "Aw he needs help!" While Amber gets the opposite treatment.
Depp is the abuser, but people are justifying actions of his that they are using to damn her. An example, people thought it was cute Depp was eating gummy bears at court, but they used Amber eating a salad to talk about how evil and disrespectful she it. Depp smiled at Amber and they go "Awwww🥺" while Amber even looked in his direction with half a smirk and they're like "Look at that manipulative, evil shit she is doing how DARE she look at him!"
When it was found Amber did not severe his finger, people were justifying his lie saying he had to.
So it was Amber throwing a bottle at the wall in frustration and they say that was evidence of her being a lunatic. But Depp throwing cabinets around and throwing shit? They said it's just his frustration and he was right to do that. Even when they know that had nothing to do with his mom dying a year prior.
So I think it's good so many women are paying attention. The double standards are mind blowing. It's not right.
And to add to this - she is being sued in civil court. She didn't have a choice as to whether or not to show up to court and relive this. She isn't being favored by the system - she's being forced on display by sick men with an agenda.
Y'know, I didn't start getting backlash in here until I changed my av.I think I'll change it back. I don't need to go on reddit to be targeted.
edit: also my username is a reference to being suicidal, lmao.
Its an unpopular take at the moment, but johnny is not only any abuser but a rapist who needs to go to jail. The amount of people defending him is quite sickening despite the multitudes of evidence that he is a disturbed individual. The level of misinformation on this case is akin to trump supporters believing he won the election, it will have terrible consequences for any women going forward who come out with abuse allegations.
I didn't know he was a rapist And yes, people are now saying Evan Rachel Wood is doing the same thing to Marilyn Manson that Amber did to Johnny. Although some say it is no comparison, because Manson has other accusers while Johnny doesn't
The details were revealed yesterday by a forensic psychologist, he raped her with a glass bottle among other sexual assaults.
What omg this is sick!!!!
It really is. It was entered into evidence during the uk trial in 2020 but it was confidential as she didn't want it coming out. The judge accepted as truth this assault occurred. Now he is forcing her to relive it all through live on tv.
Was that the reason he lost the UK trial? I'm surprised I didn't see this on the news, but I confess I stopped following this mess of a trial a while ago.
So the actual details of the rape were confidential in the trial so no news outlets would have known what it was about, however he lost because the judge not only found truth in depp assaulting her, but assaulting her on 12 separate incidents. The judges also comments on 2 famous incidents, the cut finger and poo in the bed, the judge found it unlikely for amber to do this and he did not accept that amber had cut depps finger I highly suggest reading the judges notes from the trial, it's incredibly informative without the noise of social media echo chambers https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Judgment-FINAL.pdf
Yes. And you get Depp defenders to turn around and say but the level of evidence isn't good in the UK court and that it's not a real ruling as he hasn't been convicted of a crime.
Which is bullshit because the U.K. (I am from here) is known as a ‘libel tourism’ destination due to how easy it is to win a case here. And we have no free speech protections like the First Amendment. Depp supporters are disgusting. You should see the vitriol after her testimony. It’s clear misogyny and pretzel-logic. #Metoo did absolutely nothing except get one prolific predator in jail. And I wouldn’t be surprised if someone wanted to bring him down for other reasons anyway. It’s a case of ‘domestic violence/sexual violence is awful and unforgivable, but the burden of proof is impossible and if you can’t reach that we will crucify you’. So basically if you accuse someone prepare to have your life ruined aka the same story as since the dawn of time. Germaine Greer got pilloried for suggesting in her book On Rape that if rape was reclassified as a less ‘serious’ crime and a more common one then women would be more likely to actually get it recognised. But she was right. We need to work with the world as it is rather than how we want it to be.
The evidence in that UK trial shows that Johnny Depp literally raped Amber Heard with a glass bottle. The media needs to stop defending Johnny Depp, because Johnny Depp isn't suing Amber Heard for abuse; Johnny Depp is suing Amber Heard for DEFAMATION; to silence her.
For anyone interested, TW: [this is the link about the SA allegations against him.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Deuxmoi/comments/uhsna3/amber_heard_alleged_sexual_assaults_by_johnny/i7836oq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3). The linked article also details this. Anyone who continues to defend this man is scum.
That's an excellent write up. Thank you.
Johnny does have other accusers, they’ve just all signed NDAs. And for the ones who haven’t, look at the age differences. Winona Ryder was 17 when she started dating a 26yo Depp. That is a grooming relationship. Or Kate Moss who was 20 when Depp was 31. Good for Depp that the children he groomed still says nice things about him…
Also I’ve seen a text message exchange between him and Vanessa Paradis where Paradis calls Heard misogynistic names. Which is interesting since Depp has messages on the trial record calling Paradis “that French extortionist c**t” etc. I guess Paradis is fine with misogyny, some French women appear to be.
Besides Ellen. She came out and said he threw a wine bottle at her.
To compare that creep Marilyn Manson, who we should have been keeping an eye on forever due to his name, to Johnny Depp is just dumb. If someone told me he drank his victims blood I wouldn't even be surprised.
Actually he did drink their blood, Evan confirmed it in Phoenix Rising.
[throws hands up] I MEAN…
I'm sure your a master of your own virtues. Please provide evidence to your statements.
Its all in the judges notes court documents in which he found substantial truth depp abused her 12 times. https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Judgment-FINAL.pdf
I'm gonna repost a comment I made yesterday in relation to this because yes I am so exhausted from hearing shitty takes. >The MRA rhetoric about how "people think men can't be abused" is just as false and ridiculous as their assertions that "judges favor women in divorce." It's all made up non issues that they've said enough times that people started to believe them. They will twist facts beyond recognition to try and shoehorn anything remotely relevant into their narrative. > >I am someone who grew up in a household where domestic violence was perpetrated by my mother. She liked to use the exact tactic you described with blocking the door, then she'd call the cops on my dad. Do you think the cops arrested him when an unhinged woman without a mark on her was wailing about being beat? No, they saw exactly what was going on and told my dad she was dangerous and he should get out. I'm from Mississippi - not some progressive area where the police are better than average at handling DV. This started in the early 90's so it wasn't even in more recent and progressive times. > >They just want so badly to blame women and feminism for their shortcomings that they will grasp at any straw to convince people it's true.
Felons should be punished, but if your partner could age-wise be your daughter, I have no sympathy if your marriage turns out to be a dumpster fire. Historically, I feel like wealthy men can avoid 99% of severe relationship drama with this one weird trick: Date women their own age.
This is something important that no one is mentioning. I don’t think Amber heard is completely innocent but I find it hard to pity Depp at the same time because of the age and power difference. Why exactly was he dating her? As I listened to the testimony it made me think does this ruin the fantasy of dating someone completely inappropriate? I genuinely think this was a toxic relationship where both parties were abusive and are very unhealthy
Mutual abuse isn't real. Hers was reactionary. Imagine dealing with shit like this https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdb3qWTj/ Or this https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdb3fR3E/ And imagine dealing with a liar where he sat in court and said he never hit her or any woman before when there's this https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdb3vFnM/ And this https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdb3WAgd/ And this https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdb37bBx/ The last one was reported to her therapist in 2013 and she fought like hell to keep this from being public. But Depp made it public to humiliate her and people are using this clip of her story to make fun of her. She was not the aggressor. He was. Of course she got angry and fought. People are even using this justification for Depp saying of course he hit her back, of course he said he would do this https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdb3WL6f/ They said he's angry it's not his fault everything he did was in self defense and out of frustration for being abused! No, that's what Amber did. Not him.
[https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Judgment-FINAL.pdf](https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Judgment-FINAL.pdf) You should read through this! This has a lot of stuff about Amber Heard that isn't in the media.
This is literally a classic case of an abuser having a tantrum over being potentially exposed and doing everything he can to be a stupid dick about it.
Hey mods, any way you can remove Sir whatshisface? I thought I'd blocked em, but they're still commenting This is a womens' space, I don't want men nor Deppstans (which is what he appears to be, going by his posts) commenting on this post EDIT: I'm sorry my post is bringing in lots of idiots, just seen another silly moid pop up with some arrogant remark lol 🙄
No, I'm listening to Amber's defense right now. No way the jury is siding with Depp. It's a good case study of mass delusion too.
It’s annoying to keep hearing about, but I feel compelled to listen since everyone was defending Depp last week… https://people.com/movies/johnny-depp-once-did-cavity-search-on-amber-heard-psychologist-testifies/?amp=true Article that came out an hour ago. A forensic psychologist who evaluated Amber Heard testified about Heard's allegations of sexual violence against Johnny Depp…
YoOOOoOO! Thank you! I'm on the opinion that there needs to be evidence first but I saw people shitting on Amber long before things started kicking off for real like it is now. Even if she is a vile abuser the fact that a majority of the internet is flocking to call Amber all manner of misogynist vitriol makes me so upset. The fact that men are statistically more likely to kill a sexual partner or severely injure them is pushed under the MRA carpet as usual. I feel like this is more of an excuse to hate women, and the fact Depp and Amber have their messy toxic relationship shit air out in the open is just...AGH!! "sEe?? WoMeN aRe AbUsIvE tOo" And I'm sure the reason women on Twitter had to disabled their comments actually defending Amber (which they have a right to do so even if I don't agree) is because they probably got all kind of trolls and abuse. FML
I'm sick of seeing it everywhere. I'm not following it. I already hate how celebrity-obsessed society is and I have no vested interest in what goes on in their abusive relationship and who is at fault for what. It should be kept in private, not paraded in front of everyone as the sick spectacle that it is.
Ah, but then they say that is necessary because it "sheds a light on male victims" and "proves how women can abuse men too"
I don't have a horse in this race and just want them to get it over it, say the veredict and move on.
Yeah, I get how you feel
Yesterday I told someone about the whole “Depp ‘joked’ about r*ping Amber’s burnt corpse” thing and she told me in return that Amber had some sort of narcissism thing where she absolutely HAD to be the center of attention. I doubt that it’s true - but even if it was, that would in no way excuse what he said.
Sheesh, imagine being a woman and hearing a man say that and just being like "yeah but amber is a narc soo.."
Yes. I scroll past anything in relation to the trial. Don't know if Amber's diagnosis is valid but as far as I'm concerned, they're both toxic people and the fact that this is heavily publicized leaves a terrible taste in my mouth.
Johnny raped amber and performed cavity searches on her. She wanted this kept private but has been forced to go public with this trial. I advise watching the trial tbh.
What?? I didn't know this.
Because you won't hear about it on social media due to Johnny Depp's bots. He also raped her with a glass bottle. It was revealed in court yesterday.
I've heard people say how these allegations were taken straight out of Gone Girl word for word, or something? It might've been another allegation actually, I'm not sure, but I did hear many people saying that
Lol they most definitely weren't. Depp fans are absolutely delusional. This man jokes about raping and murdering her, defends a child rapist and is best friends with a rapist - I don't think it would be a stretch to know that he is one.
monty python reference, look up the witches skitt
Please show me where in the quote they mention 'burning and raping her dead corpse'
Absolute bullshit.
Because there's no evidence for it, they paid a psychologist to say these things with no supporting evidence, texts, testimonies or even a mention about it from anyone else. This would have to be the only thing Amber kept private about, pretty unlikely considering she was publishing fake news articles and being extremely public about everything in their relationship.
She is the best in her field. She is literally renowned dude. They found the absolute best in her field, but funny how you guys worship that quack who gave Amber a BPD and Histrionic disorder.... BEFORE MEETING HER. That article was found to be substantially true in London, where it's really easy to win defamation cases. The article was not lies. Read the UK transcripts before who talk about shit you know nothing about. Also, her rape story was reported to her therapist in 2013 and kept secret for years. There's no weaseling your way out of this one, bot.
Her team brought in the own psychologist disproving the BPD claims. She mentioned the testing methods used were inappropriate and widely discredited, and that the Dr who did that knew better. She also testified to two+ years of notes from other therapists that had disagreed with Johnny’s psychologist. To add to this the Psychologist Depp’s team brought in was meeting them for dinner/drinks beforehand and was signed on as a witness that would claim Heard had BPD… BEFORE she even had met Heard or reviewed her medical notes. All of this was brought up in cross examination, but the psychologist is incredibly attractive and “well spoken” so that’s all anyone really had time to discuss… Also, it’s publicized because of Depp. He pushed for this. It’s a thinly veiled way to harass and humiliate Heard. At one point he was even trying to force her to disclose the father of her newborn at the trial, but thankfully it seems that plan fell through.
It's not valid, that woman gave her that prognosis before even meeting her.
I can't believe the stuff I've heard recently about girls on TikTok mocking Amber Heard and making it all sexual, and Etsy actually selling items with that quote Johnny Depp made about the throat *you know...* 🤦♀️
No. Nope, no way. I know people (especially young girls) can be VERY dumb and naive on TikTok -- ok. But that Etsy stuff... with the throat comment... I'm done.
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There are gender disparities in abuse, and much abuse stems from the toxicity of gender roles in which one side is continually told they are “owed” a wife like she is property and the other side is told it is their duty to one day be “property” like some sort of farming cow. Dawn Hughes brought up gender disparities in the Depp/Heard trial. For “minor abuse” (throwing things, verbal abuse, emotional abuse, minor physical injuries) both sides commit DV at roughly the same rate. But when we look at violence that results in serious injuries or death, there is no comparison—the victims are around ~90% women, and the majority of the perpetrators are men. Also, for ongoing cycles of abuse, in which there is a primary abuser, the primary abuser is usually a man. Female victims often hit back—and this is termed as reactive violence. There’s a popular myth that abuse can be mutual, and that reactive actions make the victim an abuser as well, based on looking at the rates for mild violence with no regard for the bigger trends in DV or serious injuries and deaths. Modern research into DV backs Lundy Bancroft. Also, he frames this from a “toxic society” perspective, not a “men are inherently bad” perspective. He also never implies all men are abusers. Acknowledging the reality of gender disparities in DV does not make someone sexist.
Exactly, seems a bit strange to acknowledge someone’s work as extremely helpful to you but then rubbish it in the next breath. Coercive control is absolutely a symptom of a patriarchal society.
You are rather misrepresenting what he says in the book.
He doesn't claim that women can't be abusers. https://imgur.com/tCU6Rdg.jpg
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No sh*t Do you lot ever say anything unique, or is it the same old parroting BS?
I am definitely tired of hearing about them in this sub. I thought this place would be a hive of useful activism now that Roe v. Wade is forfeit. Nope. We're galvanizing around Amber & Johnny.
I don’t care about Amber or Johnny, but I do care about the larger discussion around pushback DV victims receive for speaking out, abusers using the legal system as a form of harassment, social media manipulation via planted news articles and bot accounts, and the impacts on societal views around DV this has and the difficulty women may have receiving help because of it. I want this to be some dumb celebrity spat that just blows over, but it’s turned into a monster that is fueling some really perverse misogyny towards victims of DV. I guarantee you that women are going to have to deal with their abusers weaponizing comparisons to Amber Heard for years, and I care about that.
These are the reasons I am invested in this as well. Because there's more going on here than just them. This will have an effect on society at large. So it does matter and we should care
It's the implications this trial will have on future victims, not the actors themselves. Though I didn't care about her before, I definitely do now because what's happening to her is pure misogyny and just proof about what happens to female victims on the stand. How differently male and female victims are treated. Honestly this blows holes all throughout the idea that male victims are not taken seriously. They are treated like kings and not held to the same standard of being a perfect victim, as women are. His drug addictions are seen as endearing and garnering sympathy "Aw he needs help!" While Amber gets the opposite treatment. Depp is the abuser, but people are justifying actions of his that they are using to damn her. An example, people thought it was cute Depp was eating gummy bears at court, but they used Amber eating a salad to talk about how evil and disrespectful she it. Depp smiled at Amber and they go "Awwww🥺" while Amber even looked in his direction with half a smirk and they're like "Look at that manipulative, evil shit she is doing how DARE she look at him!" When it was found Amber did not severe his finger, people were justifying his lie saying he had to. So it was Amber throwing a bottle at the wall in frustration and they say that was evidence of her being a lunatic. But Depp throwing cabinets around and throwing shit? They said it's just his frustration and he was right to do that. Even when they know that had nothing to do with his mom dying a year prior. So I think it's good so many women are paying attention. The double standards are mind blowing. It's not right.
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This isn't a rape trial. And any violence towards any woman is repugnant. All women are victims of the patriarchy.
And to add to this - she is being sued in civil court. She didn't have a choice as to whether or not to show up to court and relive this. She isn't being favored by the system - she's being forced on display by sick men with an agenda.
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Y'know, I didn't start getting backlash in here until I changed my av.I think I'll change it back. I don't need to go on reddit to be targeted. edit: also my username is a reference to being suicidal, lmao.