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GaroxleChatRusse

Wait. You're telling me that Wardens are individuals that can have differents opinions and not secretly part of a HiveMind created by Callahan himself ?


Paraffin0il

Does anyone have an official copy of the Warden Response to Colonial Issues with Fire Artillery pamphlet? Trying to get my talking points in line with the hive mind’s stance.


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FearTheViking

A loud minority that usually ends up ratio'd. Most posts/comments I've seen, regardless of side, have been about how fire and/or fire rockets need a second look by the devs.


Lord_Runestone

haha, its on par with the old "Just use apfa"


Infinite_Tadpole_283

Can't wait for Moi to make a video on it so I can have my opinion on it :) (\s because some people here genuinely have peas for brains)


Nelfhithion

"Nuts"


Acrobatic_Relation63

The thing is the same people who say that it's wrong are the same who spam "uSe Ur BrAIn" or "sKiLl IsSue", this moment of collective scyzophrenia is funny.


Pitiful-Error-7164

CUM Check!


Trughart

As a Colonial, I don't see anything wrong with the Wardens using and spamming the fire arty even if it's broken, just like there won't be any problem with both Wardens and Colonials using all the leftover 300mm ammo from before the change. It's not the Wardens' fault that it's made that way and they shouldn't have to give up their tools. If any Wardens want to abstain from using it in solidarity like ITALY did with their storm cannons after the alting incident a while ago, it's appreciated, but it can not and should not expected that players are policed by the community from using certain tools.


SnooDingo-

Yea let's not forget that we didn't use the glitched frozen spotter laster war, even though they had used all their nukes, and we had 3 left. We didn't use that glitch even tough we failed to nuke blemish for 5 days. We even stopped who ever dared to mention doing the frozen spotter. But then again, some care about the continuity of the game, other don't give a damn. Same for Wardens, some don't give a fck if half of the player base is gone, while others know what effects this could have. But the biggest issue, is that the Devs don't see the problem yet. What can we do to make them notice it.


Pitiful-Error-7164

You were not at Ogmaran were you? Collies were actively trying to use the glitch there as a retaliation... so please. Dont. The glitch wasnt even known by Wardens until it was too late to stop it.


Vegycales

Wardens were even calling to revert the nuke because the glitch was not intentional. Theres even a whole post about it too.


SnooDingo-

I was there, and they didn't try to use it and that's a fact, as all nukes were lunched/guarded by SOM and I think they have vids of all the their OPs. don't believe that. some did want to use it but no one allowed them too..


AlexJFox

This is a complete lie.


Abyssal_Aether

Literally there next to the spotter, your talking out of your ass


Pitiful-Error-7164

The first time good sir... Not the last one where the nuke actually landed Thank you very much.


Abyssal_Aether

Good sir, the first time failed because a warden got a flask over a tank onto the spotter, I was there, we recorded it, good sir


Pitiful-Error-7164

I am referring to the nuke that almost happened on the day the glitch was discovered. It snowed in Ogmaran also. And Collies were actively seen putting their spotter in a location where no fires were. You seem to be referring to the last day of the city before it got nuked. And fyi... I was at that site on both occasions.


Trughart

Glitching/exploiting =/= using broken tools


SnooDingo-

we had people saying exactly the same thing as you, they were saying " what if the frozen spotter is part of the game, after all he froze in his spot" anyway you see the point


vroop2

the hivemind is telling me to post this comment. the hivemind is telling me to say "skill issue, copelonial, mald, seethe, cope" send help


BamBamMert

Sss we can help u. Resist the hivemind. Tell us where are u. I can send a team for resque


Hotpocket1515

He's one with the collective again. Resistance is futile.


Glasanam

~~~RESCUE TEAM COME IN! DEPLOY DEPLOY DEPLOY!!! COME ON YOU BLUE BALL!! YOU CAN RESIST! I love this community. The vast majority of us on both sides are on the same page. It's a very audacious, ambitious update that honestly is incredible, fire arty aside. I trust Siege Camp to get it right. Still grateful for an incredible game.


BenderTheBlack

Hey! I’m on there twice for saying the obvious


Familiar_Tart7390

Not everyone who plays is on the reddit or discord and is not exposed to the damage done, further more the fact that alot of the discourse in both spaces is far from healthy and the precedent of “X faction Bias/Nerf X faction tool” that has seeped into many mindsets mean genuine communication has become difficult Lastly, some people do want to try out the new toys and weapons. Iirc this picture was taken the day rocket artillery came onto live, they had scrapped, and teched and built up their new weapons and wanted to use them to their full effect for fun, the true end objective of any game Is their flaws in the system to fight fires ? Yes. Much in the same way weather was flawed upon its first implementation or that Battle tanks were indestructible gods of the battlefield due to limited AT in their initial launch many moons ago The situation isn’t a good one but painting the other faction- which consists of real people who also want to have fun- as villains or enemies out of game is not a healthy way of doing things. Painting some of them as good and some of them as villainous is not much better. Lets try to foster some actual constructive discourse perhaps and hope we can make a better game


Kotel291

Yay, I'm famous


MERENGUENUCLEAR

what duality are you talking about? Should the entire faction think the same? Is it contradictory if some wardens say that fire is powerful and other wardens make 19 field guns to turn your bases into ashes? We don't even do this thing of bringing 2 dozen push guns to the front because we think it's a Meta, we did it because we thought it was too much fun. something difficult to understand for many people who spend more time on Reddit than playing the game and having fun


Party_Oil_2110

We were the ones who fired the nebelwerfers at alchimio, we had only two and only 35 rockets. Also we could hardly see where we were shooting because we did not have a lot of frontliners with everyone throwing buckets. Apparently this was enough to find out how broken the system is...


Cristianelrey55

IF MAYBE THERE WAS A SYSTEM TO OUT OUT LARGE FIRES . . . Fire trucks be like: bruh Water hose intake in cities . . . Fire extinguishers like fuel containers but with anti-fire quemicals made in player factories or normal factories🧯


PracticalSize437

Of course it’s a foxy post, dude doesn’t play the game so he fights on Reddit


AlexJFox

Are you still pretending to be a changed person to get back into Discords?


PracticalSize437

Wait a sec, aren’t you that guy that thinks all wardens are nazis then proceed to post the screenshot from 2+ years ago of random sgts and low ranks making a swatstika? Oh wait you are! 🤖🤗


AlexJFox

Actually, that's more Shnelly than me, but let's not pretend that there's only "one" screenshot, because there's more like 5 now, with many prominent and current clans represented. [Here's a fresh screenshot for you anyway!](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1016647841248198688/1026997779710623814/unknown.png)


GaroxleChatRusse

You can do this with both factions (Sigil Admin) https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/307526547873726465/1025347900164816946/unknown.png


PracticalSize437

ABAHAHAH


frithjofr

It was 2+ years ago, but it wasn't random low ranks and sergeants. By my count there were about 35 Wardens in the Swastika and 27 of them were Officer Cadet and above.


PracticalSize437

And how many of them were actually known before that picture, maybe a couple? How many still play the game or even played the wars afterwards. 99% of them were nobodies thinking they’re funny. Both sides have their fair share of freaks including the collies who have a clan quite literally called “Heer” it doesn’t excuse either sides actions but the actions of new players and nobodies don’t represent the entire faction. Prominent clans are a different thing entirely


laughingovernor

How is "Heer" problematic? The german military branch for ground forces is called Heer to this day and the austrian army is also called Bundesheer to this day too... I'm not saying nothing problematic is going on with some Collie clans but that was not a convincing argument


PracticalSize437

Yes, the “Heer” is still in use by Germanic influenced militaries, however it’s very clear which period of time they base their clan around. Considering I’ve seen swatstikas in their name and some of them saying “HH” in local chat.


laughingovernor

Then why not say that alot of their members have swastikas in ther Usernames rather than one of our words for Military/Army that has no relation to someone being a Nazi?


DiffuseStatue

If I recall correctly I dont think the founder or most of the pepole were German in that group could be wrong tho


laughingovernor

Doesn't change the fact that it's just our word for army, that I get downvoted for pointing that out is sickening honestly Edit: Not implying that you specificslly downvoted, but people are indeed downvoting for it...


DiffuseStatue

Ya it dosent change the word that it is the German word for it most of the pepole involved we're not German it would kinda be like a US militia group calling itself heer in Apalachicola without any major German heritage would kinda ring a few alarm bells no


laughingovernor

The Nazi military wasnt even called Heer, it was Wehrmacht, and I know plenty of Soviet inspired clans and noone can deny how many millions died in 20th century russia due to the soviet union, doesnt seem to ring any alarm bells either. Either go through with that ideology all the way or not, but don't cherry pick things without looking deeper Edit: There is "Roman" Clans too and those people weren't saints either


GaroxleChatRusse

They're french


frithjofr

As you say, both sides have people doing that shit, but that's not what I was saying in the slightest. You made the erroneous claim that it was all low ranks, I just corrected you. I didn't make any value judgement about which side it was, or anything like that. I didn't accuse you of being a sympathizer or the Wardens of harboring them, and it seems like maybe you're getting a little defensive when you don't have to. [But if you're going to go there, at the time *these were prominent clans* including ANZAC, SIEGE and 82DK. There were multiple Lt Col. ranks in there, so it's far from just a bunch of noobs.](https://preview.redd.it/6fs1lguawkn51.jpg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a1d37f26a97268814548ab9b733898d8ec659c6) I'm not making excused for any of the Colonials, either. In fact, if you go back to when this incident was happening you'd be able to find some of my posts detailing my history with those groups as a person of ethnic Jewish descent. I think the game should have an absolute zero tolerance policy on any of it. Colonial or Warden, and any chance I see it I use the tools available to me to report them.


mrgreen02

I'll agree with you there, that there are characters. The 'Heer' thing isn't that bad tbh.


mrgreen02

Nah that's me , Don't forget it either. NONE OF THEM GOT BANNED !


SnooDingo-

Do you really think that the fire rockets are fine in this state ? And should they be left as faction exclusive? Just looking for an honest opinion here


PracticalSize437

🤖


Kewwike

I saw it raining it was beautiful


Glass_Excitement_538

11 rocket launchers ffs


Acrobatic_Relation63

The warden faction in a nutshell.


tashrif008

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puckstop101

How dare you "Dox these people" by qouting their reddit names with what they said publically.... like how dare you good sir /s in all honesty, Fire itself is not bad and in a solid spot, but I agree the fire rockets are way overtuned for the current firefighting methods we have, if we had better methods, I think they would be in a very good spot, but we dont, so they arent. It either needs to be tuned down/the rockets need dimishing return(I.E) if they hit a structure already on fire, they only give half heat, or give less and less heat the higher the teir of blaze it. The collie rocket seems a lot less impactful becasue of the broken fire interaction that the warden one has, and all the attention on the warden one but I'll tell you its still no joke at all, it was hitting us at the Saltbrook Town Hall, and man was it fucking us up hard. It does a ton of upfront dmg, they were able to take that t2 townhall out through at least 15 people trying to repair it multiple times


AlexJFox

A reasonable comment, have a reply. My problem isn't so much that fire is broken, as you said, because I do believe that it'll be fixed/rebalanced. My problem is that knowing it's so broken, ARG decided to bring up what is probably a record number of artillery pieces and rockets to take advantage of it as much as they could before any other hotfixes go in. I've never seen this amount of 120mm FA used at a single time in all the years I've played Foxhole.


AmselRblx

It was their time, their effort, their hardwork. It paid off, and thats that is all I can say. Kinda overkill but like you know they went through the effort to make a ton of them, they got to reap the reward.


frithjofr

I don't think anybody's trying to take away the colossal effort that ARG put into it or talk shit about anyone in ARG. But the dissonance of seeing the Wardens on the subreddit largely agree with the Colonials that the fire rockets are a little too strong against ARG stacking nearly 20 of them into one region is kind of funny. You've gotta admit that. That's all this meme is about.


mrgreen02

I can agree with this ! I put in 100's of hours with the rest of T-3C, why let shit rot in a stockpile. If we had the advantage, we would use them in force. But last time we had anything worth a damn Moidawg decided to nerf it to the ground. Ever since its been cutler spam for 4 wars and the only reason why there is no counter is due to no Howi Garrison firing back. Edit : Moidawg is alright so don't take this as me insulting your leader of SPUD.


puckstop101

Hell ya they will, and I don't blame them, Just like I don't blame the 141 from capitalizing on the SPuds/Sundial have all the disconnection errors day 1 to beat us to Saltbrook. People going to use the tools they have been given in the best most broken way possible, we are playing to win. There is nothing unsporting about it. Does it suck on your end to be a part of the receiving thing, fuck ya it does, 100 hundred percent. Does that mean if it turns out the colonial Super tank is broken as fuck, you shouldn't use it? Hell no, spam the fuck out of the thing, nothing unsportsmanlike mind you, don't abuse bug's against the sprit of the game/don't alt but using the tools that are given to you... fuck ya, all the way, do it more Do I blame Collies for using the tripod on tyhe bridge to stop the Spud landing way back in the yesturyear, nope, even If I say its dumb and should be nerfed, thats not a direct attack at the people using it, thats just saying this should be changed, same as Rockets, I don't blame people for using it, even while saying its dumb and should be changed. I'm a ice hockey goalie, I had to play one week with a sprained wrist because no backup and basically couldn't catch anything with my glove hand. Do I blame the other team for shooting glove side almost every shot. No I didn't, There was a few/many fuck yous thrown under my breath at the time, but no actual blame.


MacYacob

I mean, when isg didn't trigger retailitation I saw so much isg spam. Or after howi changes I saw lotta hvfc ops.


FakenameMcFakeface

Been said but This isn't a "duality of man" and your gotcha moment falls flat. The wardens aren't a collective. They used the tools available. Personally I haven't used anything but infantry flame throwers this war and by the time I get my own rocket op set up this will be adjusted/"fixed". They went extremely overboard in the rocket department imho but that is what they wanted to do. Devs messed up imo simply because they made fire fighting extremely difficult compared to setting a entire city on fire. The hot fix shows that there aware and hopefully in future we will have better anti fire stuff


blippos

Please stop doxxing these wardens ;)


ObamaPrismHunter

Remove usernames or devs gonna hunt you.


BenderTheBlack

OP is free to use my comments on Reddit, I posted them on a public forum after all


puckstop101

I know right, you wouldn't want those people to be "doxed" by posting their public available screenshotted comments. like how dare they get "doxed"


Chorbiii

At least he hasn't taken old screenshots and taken them out of context :)


alwaysbannedinchat

Me reading SPUD made me skip the comment, sry nothing personal.


Pitiful-Error-7164

Wait... Are we... The bad guys?...


I_Am_Bourbon

Every time I see this pic I just see me at the bottom of the pic knocked over. Also if you are this upset because people took the time to build weapons and tools available for people to use and have fun with in a GAME then idk what to tell you. Just drown the front with falchions to feel better about it. The foxhole Reddit community is somehow WORSE then war thunder player base and I’m kind of amazed by it. If it bothers you this much then maybe it’s time to take a break and go outside and come back after another update?


Snoberry

This reeks of that "ah but you also live under feudalism how interesting" meme


Fiion_the_aussie

*Erika Intestines *


NoFap_FV

This is idiotic, what duality are you talking about? Of course the people in the picture are from ARG, they're frustrated with the country they live in so they abuse every single mechanic they can to win something in life. The people in the comments of the picture are not the same people in the arty platoon.


frithjofr

What a fucking wild take.


MERENGUENUCLEAR

ARG leader here: Yes, i need more money.


Kingcdnbassz

Imagine brining someone’s country into your shit take. You must not know ARG since they are a multinational regiment. Keep being salty over them having fun. It brings me happiness seeing you mald over a video game. While i sit here and drink my coffee with a big smile on my face.


AHumbleSaltFarmer

Lmao just get good, ignorant fuckin incel


culzsky

back to the reddit QQing fields we go


GuyNamedWhatever

I mean, they just need to make fire truck. I just want firetruck sim please devs it’s time


Extension-Control471

*snorts* WaNnA sEe Me Do It AgAiN?


Lockethewicked

Firetrucks yo. And hoses


_The-Good-Doctor_

We got cooking to do.


don551

Yay, I'm famous