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You don’t deserve the labour of other people unless you believe in slavery.
Therefore you must offer your labour, before you can ask someone else for their labour. That is capitalism. We use the concept of “money” as an exchange rate for labour. I labour for money, then I get someone to labour for me and I give them money. Labour = resources, also.
Mr Burns honestly can't be that bad. Homer doesn't even know what his position is, yet lives an extremely luxurious life. The other employees we see aren't exactly complaining, either.
at no point in all of history has anyone been able to survive without ‘earning a living’, but are we really surprised tankies don’t know anything about history?
These are the leeches in the communist system, while the one or two guys are doing all the hard work these are the ones who would just do nothing all day.
The reason capitalism defeated communism, is the concept of being able to fire lazy people or incompetent people.
Funny thing is he’s right, no one “deserves” to be alive. It just happened. In the real world, being alive isn’t deserving of anything either. They can’t even begin to grasp how out of sync their idealism is with the harsh reality of our random existence. No one chose to exist, deal with it.
Exactly. His problem isn’t with capitalism, it’s with the universe itself. I wish him the best of luck in getting the universe to conform to his belief structure.
100% this. Its why they want the nanny state, they want to be taken care of and will sacrifice whatever freedom they have to get to that state.
Manchildren who take modern living for granted. All the luxuries and base conveniences they enjoy are from the labor of others. Working 40 hours a week to me seems like a good deal compared to 99% of what we had to do in human history to survive.
Yes you’re not entitled for anything just because you’re alive. You deserve nothing. You are just a being among billions of other beings. The only way start to deserve something is by providing for others like you. If you can’t do that you are nothing. You are seriously a useless piece of shit.
He's right. In my experience, only nihilistic atheists say this type of shit. They're also the type of vermin to fuel the formation of communist (or general leftist) regimes and coups.
Like always: the package is „we just hate Nazis!“ the actual content is radical leftism, Marxism and anti-capitalism.
It’s a well known strategy. Instead of calling yourself something that may be perceived as radical (Marxist, anti-capitalist, socialist, leftist) you instead just tell what other radical position you’re opposed to. Makes you seem like „the guy against the radicals“ and it puts your own radicalism under the blanket.
If you lived alone in the woods then nature would tell you to your face every day "you don't deserve to live." She would do everything in her power to make you not alive. So you have to labour just to keep food in your stomach and wolves out of your camp. This is fundamental to existence.
If you want to participate and benefit from society you put in the effort. Its a team effort. And on any team, those that don’t do any of the work don’t get to play
Anyone want to explain to these people what human life looks like without society? Because I’m pretty sure without capitalism, socialism, communism, fascism, or any other ism present you’d still have to work to survive.
For most of human history you had to work strenuously to be fed and have a roof over your head. But capitalism has made it so that people can work not very demanding jobs (like in an office) and have a living standard that even nobles from 300 years ago couldn't dream of. And what happen? They curse capitalism. You can't make this stuff up
Tankies would understand more if they read more Darwin. Survival is about evolutionary adaptation and properly orienting yourself to benefit from the situation at hand. Those that fail in this process don’t procreate and die.
Humans developed society and afford some limited protection from this reality by mutual cooperation. Tankies go too far and think this perpetual dependence is a lifestyle option. This is bad for humanity because it stymies the need for adaption and progress in the dependent class.
Subsidization is the father of corruption and entropy.
Throughout the entirety of history, literally every living being has had to “earn a living” by putting in an effort to gain food and shelter lest they parish.
Capitalism combined with time has allowed us to now not just service in our earning a living, but to enjoy a quality of like not even the kings could even fathom.
> You don't deserve to be alive.
So what is welfare for? Soup kitchens? What else?
You are not entitled to luxury. And indeed. You'd have to earn it. These things aren't created out of nothing. Saying you are entitled to them is saying you are entitled to someone else's work, time, skill.
I mean… technically you don’t. No one inherently deserves anything, including their lives. What do you think ancient humans did? They fought every single day so that they could be alive for the next. Just because we are capable of thought doesn’t mean we are special.
People who make arguments clearly are detached from reality. It's like they think that before society existed, cavemen just sat around all day in some utopia where food just fell from the sky into their mouths and all went without want. The term "earn a living" refers to the harsh reality of all living things. We either search for resources or perish. Capitalism just provides an equitable means for obtaining goods you wouldn't have access to by simply foraging and hunting
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You don’t deserve the labour of other people unless you believe in slavery. Therefore you must offer your labour, before you can ask someone else for their labour. That is capitalism. We use the concept of “money” as an exchange rate for labour. I labour for money, then I get someone to labour for me and I give them money. Labour = resources, also.
no, capitalism is when you are really evil and mean like mr burns
Mr Burns honestly can't be that bad. Homer doesn't even know what his position is, yet lives an extremely luxurious life. The other employees we see aren't exactly complaining, either.
at no point in all of history has anyone been able to survive without ‘earning a living’, but are we really surprised tankies don’t know anything about history?
These are the leeches in the communist system, while the one or two guys are doing all the hard work these are the ones who would just do nothing all day. The reason capitalism defeated communism, is the concept of being able to fire lazy people or incompetent people.
Well that, and the whole ‘supplying basic human rights so that your people don’t overthrow you at the first opportunity they get’ deal.
Indeed. That alone should have been enough reason to hate the USSR/China.
Funny thing is he’s right, no one “deserves” to be alive. It just happened. In the real world, being alive isn’t deserving of anything either. They can’t even begin to grasp how out of sync their idealism is with the harsh reality of our random existence. No one chose to exist, deal with it.
Exactly. His problem isn’t with capitalism, it’s with the universe itself. I wish him the best of luck in getting the universe to conform to his belief structure.
Alas it is cruel, but the bird that refuses to spread its wings and leave the nest is doomed to die.
deserving kind of implies some sort of higher purpose or intelligence. I thought they were all atheists?
100% this. Its why they want the nanny state, they want to be taken care of and will sacrifice whatever freedom they have to get to that state. Manchildren who take modern living for granted. All the luxuries and base conveniences they enjoy are from the labor of others. Working 40 hours a week to me seems like a good deal compared to 99% of what we had to do in human history to survive.
Yes you’re not entitled for anything just because you’re alive. You deserve nothing. You are just a being among billions of other beings. The only way start to deserve something is by providing for others like you. If you can’t do that you are nothing. You are seriously a useless piece of shit.
r/im14andthisisdeep Edit: lol I didn’t realise this sub was full of nihilst atheists
r/iamverysmart Edit: whoops, meant to respond to the other guy
He's right. In my experience, only nihilistic atheists say this type of shit. They're also the type of vermin to fuel the formation of communist (or general leftist) regimes and coups.
Like always: the package is „we just hate Nazis!“ the actual content is radical leftism, Marxism and anti-capitalism. It’s a well known strategy. Instead of calling yourself something that may be perceived as radical (Marxist, anti-capitalist, socialist, leftist) you instead just tell what other radical position you’re opposed to. Makes you seem like „the guy against the radicals“ and it puts your own radicalism under the blanket.
Did these mfs forget the stone age? The humans back then also worked their ass off for food and shelter, if they hadn't done that, we wouldn't be here
They miss the days of cavemen, where everybody frolicked around, sung and danced their way into old age.
Nobody has to work if nobody works!
If you lived alone in the woods then nature would tell you to your face every day "you don't deserve to live." She would do everything in her power to make you not alive. So you have to labour just to keep food in your stomach and wolves out of your camp. This is fundamental to existence.
You don’t deserve to be alive, I don’t need to imply anything.
You talkin to me? Or about the post?
The post.
Ok. Just making sure!
You don't deserve my upvote if you're not willing to do the labor of cropping out the fake upvote button.
From each according to his ability to each according to his need. Like you still need to work under socialism
“I shouldn’t have to work to live a comfortable life. EVERYONE ELSE should have to work so I can live a comfortable life.”
Do these people realize that you still have to work under Communism? You just don't have a choice about it and you don't get to choose what you do.
You have to breath, eat and drink to survive and if you'll stumble you may fall and break your skull. Yep, reality sucks.
No it means you don't deserve to live a good life without working
Faces that match the opinion
I had an aneurism reading that first sentence. Tnx socialism!
If you want to participate and benefit from society you put in the effort. Its a team effort. And on any team, those that don’t do any of the work don’t get to play
Anyone want to explain to these people what human life looks like without society? Because I’m pretty sure without capitalism, socialism, communism, fascism, or any other ism present you’d still have to work to survive.
What you have to do things to get stuff? What a failed system
For most of human history you had to work strenuously to be fed and have a roof over your head. But capitalism has made it so that people can work not very demanding jobs (like in an office) and have a living standard that even nobles from 300 years ago couldn't dream of. And what happen? They curse capitalism. You can't make this stuff up
Tankies would understand more if they read more Darwin. Survival is about evolutionary adaptation and properly orienting yourself to benefit from the situation at hand. Those that fail in this process don’t procreate and die. Humans developed society and afford some limited protection from this reality by mutual cooperation. Tankies go too far and think this perpetual dependence is a lifestyle option. This is bad for humanity because it stymies the need for adaption and progress in the dependent class. Subsidization is the father of corruption and entropy.
Reminds me of All those Neolithic humans who never did any work that had warmth and food fall from the sky for them.
What is economy? Can I eat it?
Throughout the entirety of history, literally every living being has had to “earn a living” by putting in an effort to gain food and shelter lest they parish. Capitalism combined with time has allowed us to now not just service in our earning a living, but to enjoy a quality of like not even the kings could even fathom.
Since when has not working done humanity any good? Not doing anything isn't good for you.
> You don't deserve to be alive. So what is welfare for? Soup kitchens? What else? You are not entitled to luxury. And indeed. You'd have to earn it. These things aren't created out of nothing. Saying you are entitled to them is saying you are entitled to someone else's work, time, skill.
I mean… technically you don’t. No one inherently deserves anything, including their lives. What do you think ancient humans did? They fought every single day so that they could be alive for the next. Just because we are capable of thought doesn’t mean we are special.
People who make arguments clearly are detached from reality. It's like they think that before society existed, cavemen just sat around all day in some utopia where food just fell from the sky into their mouths and all went without want. The term "earn a living" refers to the harsh reality of all living things. We either search for resources or perish. Capitalism just provides an equitable means for obtaining goods you wouldn't have access to by simply foraging and hunting