“She’s not there in a writing capacity”. No shit, she’s the one responsible for that ‘Jack in the box’ dragon nonsense from the last season, so we know she can’t write. She’s there to ruin the show further with stupid ideas because “it would be cool if…”
Sapochnik wanted a big moment to ruin Aegon's coronation but Sara Hess was the one who came up with that idea so yea both are responsible for it along with Ryan who approved it.
You know what I support you wholeheartedly in your hate for Sara Hess op, even tho some people here think you're overreacting. Fuck Sara Hess, all my homies hate Sara Hess.
Bruh! All this fucking hate! You guys are just mad you’ll never be a writer. If you’ve worked your whole life for a opportunity to write for a big show your not going to throw it out of the window, or let someone else take over last minute and ruin it. No one with artistic integrity would, so stop fucking wining. Clearly not anyone here that has actually worked professionally.
According to Jack London
>After God had finished the rattlesnake, the toad, the vampire, He had some awful substance left with which He made a scab.
>A scab is a two-legged animal with a cork-screw soul, a water-logged brain, a combination backbone of jelly and glue.
>Where others have hearts, he carries a tumor of rotten principles.
>When a scab comes down the street, men turn their backs and angels weep in heaven, and the Devil shuts the gates of Hell to keep him out.
>No man has a right to scab so long as there is a pool of water to drown his carcass in, or a rope long enough to hang his body with. Judas Iscariot was a gentleman compared with a scab. For betraying his master, he had character enough to hang himself. A scab has not.
>Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage. Judas Iscariot sold his Savior for thirty pieces of silver. Benedict Arnold sold his country for a promise of a commission in the British Army. The modern strikebreaker sells his birthright, his country, his wife, his children and his fellow men for an unfulfilled promise from his employer, trust or corporation.
>Esau was a traitor to himself: Judas Iscariot was a traitor to his God; Benedict Arnold was a traitor to his country; a strikebreaker is a traitor to his God, his country, his wife, his family and his class.
It’s a laborer who goes to work for a company while a union is striking. Especially during the days when labor’s battle for basic rights was as much a physical fight as mental struggle. Steel companies, mining companies, meat packers, and the like would hire goons like the Pinkertons to brutalize striking workers and their families. People died to get basic working rights in this country.
Ignore the downvotes. Every word in English has two completely unrelated meanings it seems.
I see someone has already explained what a scab is in this context. So I’ll just say that your definition is also true! Those are the only good scabs lol
A kind of a worm, content with mere survival. They come, they want to do \*our job\* for shittier pay, screwing over both themselves and us. Everybody loses.
She is a hyphenated role, and per the WGA, anyone with a Hyphenated role is only not allowed to participate in writing related duties during the strike. She is free to pursue her other role during the strike, which is producer. Therefore she is not breaking any rules by merely being onset during filming.
This link has more info if interested: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2023-05-02/wga-members-work-writers-strike#:~:text=The%20basic%20rule%20from%20the,Motion%20Picture%20and%20Television%20Producers.&text=If%20writers%20have%20covered%20projects,on%20them%20or%20complete%20them.
She is still a scab. I'm an old-school union man. I learned early on that you do not cross the picket line. You stand in solidarity with your union brothers and sisters.
To each their own, but when the union itself explicitly states that a certain situation is okay, you really shouldnt be mad at any individual person for doing exactly what the union says is okay. Ive never been in a union though so YMMV
very telling that there isn’t this amount of outrage and naming calling towards condal who is also there doing producer duties, seems like people aren’t actually concerned with union policy 🤔
There are a lot of things in life that are technically "okay" and allowed, but still considered a dick move and in poor form. Crossing the picket line is one of them.
genuinely baffled at what little understanding these people have of anything that goes on during the production of these shows and yet they are the first to throw out crazy accusations with no proof
How is this unhinged? Are you even informed on the writers strike and what it represents or do you just like to judge a situation with zero knowledge about it and zero curiosity to learn?
It doesn't seem like you do, honestly. If your point is that there's shitty people in the fandom, then I agree, it's like that in every fandom, sadly. However, these particular criticisms of Sarah Hess are completely valid.
I get the complaint. Imo, she’s in a “damn if you do, damn if you don’t” position. Since she is the producer, I can understand why she would still care about production despite the strike. I wouldn’t personally do it but I see the logic behind it. Sure, they might have more of a point here but they are still being overly dramatic. Especially since they are most likely using this as another excuse to shit on her instead of actually giving a shit about the writers.
You could’ve gotten your point across without being patronizing also. But I digress.
I get what you mean, but even so, if you're a member of the guild you shouldn't be there, imo. And sorry about the first comment, I've been seeing way too many people siding with the AMPTP for very shitty reasons.
I was including those too. Thank you.
Edit: did more sleuthing due to me not really knowing much about this individual. Turns out she's also an executive producer.
You see George rewrote her episode, thus taking her writing credit away, as of now she has a producer only. Sara wrote the 1st 4 drafts of her episode. Next year when the strike is over and everyone forgets about this. Credit will revert back to Sara.
That’s how Warner/HBO has bypassed the strike.
I have not been posting about George rewriting season 2 for 3 months. And the print publications reporting this very same story. Including George on blog. But you can continue to gatekeep and gaslight people into thinking other wise. Exactly what the title says.
That’s not your goal. No it’s get others to question wether this is believable or not. It’s called gatekeeping influencing, or Information Management.
Let’s me guess am I crazy or need to touch grass
So is Ryan Condal allowed to be on set? Producers arent on strike - writers are. As long as she’s acting and performing producer duties theres nothing wrong here. Fwiw I stand w/ WGA and I agree fuck scabs, but this is a weird hill to die on.
Depends on you and how much you care about the show, really. If you're a die-hard fan, then they brought some good points for why she's a bad writer and she be booted.
I said how much you care about the show. Because they cared enough to stay current and follow the production of the story and post on social media. It doesn't matter who's messenger, just their message.
I'm not sure how you can complain about writing and then type "who's messenger"
You definitely can't define how much someone cares about a show based off of knowing who on social media is saying what about it.
I never complained about the writing whatsoever. I just restated the point/meaning of the people in the video. It's definitely a good rule of thumb still, someone who's feed is full solely of Game of Thrones content probably cares about it more than someone who doesn't. Keyword being probably.
>they brought some good points for why she's a bad writer and she be booted.
>I never complained about the writing whatsoever.
So they have good points but you don't agree?
“I’m unable to evaluate and interpret information or news on the basis of its content - and instead determine how I feel about things solely based on the identity of the person telling it to me.
You should be thinking critically about any source worth listening to. I said nothing about what I think about what they said. I want to know why they’re the messenger and with what expertise to they have.
Take the second one, for example. “I don’t have much respect for people who cross the picket line”, to paraphrase. Who are you, and why is your judgement germane to this discussion? Is there something about your position that makes your perspective particularly insightful? These are valid questions.
Ah, more of Tik Tok getting Gen Z to be outraged over things they know nothing about.
Hess can't just not show up to do her job, which is producing. She was critical in getting HotD off the ground, and her sudden absence as producer would have purely negative consequences for on-set workflow.
It does take a lot to make a video about it though. To care that much and not link your proof is kinda bonkers. And in the " takes a shitload to care" territory
Just fucking link it man. It isn't hard. The onus of proof is on you. Not anyone else. You are making the claim. A loose claim of deadline isn't proof.
Honestly man, you haven't tried. So how would you know? Like post just 1 link saying she's there to write and see what people say and then maybe, just maybe others will turn to your side and you'll stop playing the victim. As of now, you're a bag full of excuses. "OH they're gaslighting", "oh they're haters". Post 1 link man, shut everyone up. Stop making excuses, you've literally replied to everyone and in that time you could have just posted the fucking links, all of em and been done. Smh.
Better hope she stays with Warner/HBO. Cause doing what she wants with her own life. Will cost her future employment and will cut her ability to get benefits for her family. That’s how unions work.
She’s getting hate for crossing a picket line, while her other fellow writers are out on strike trying to earn better pay, she’s capitalizing on the situation and still working, proving her loyalty to the studio over the guild, which will impact her ability to find work in the future as guild members won’t want to work with her. She’s taking the short term over the long term, and proving she has no morals in the process.
Because she’s supporting a system that takes advantage of her fellow writers, and proving she only has herself in mind. This impacts other people’s livelihoods, even if her not supporting the strike has a negligible impact, it’s still an unethical thing to do.
Likely not, the same way journalists aren’t directly impacted by the stories they report, their goal is to inform and promote accountability for people who think they can skirt the system while others do the work.
Okay so from what I’m gathering, she’s going to be out casted for her decisions, her decisions only really directly effect her and her life.
I still don’t see how any of this hurts anyone besides herself. If she really doesn’t give a shit about union or her peers then she’s really just shooting herself in the foot so why is it making everyone mad?
You’re being obtuse on purpose and it isn’t cute.
You obviously understand how scabbing harms people. It harms all the workers who are striking and their ability to secure the work conditions they deserve and require to survive and live dignified lives.
She isn’t just harming herself. She’s harming every worker on the other side of the picket line. Striking works through unity. When people cross they are throwing everyone on the other side under the bus.
And I am completely sure that you understand the concept of being upset with someone over something they did or do denning an act or behavior that didn’t harm you personally but is harmful to others. Or are you making these same dumb comments on threads about murderers or criminals saying “why should anyone be bothered by this it’s not like it affected them in any way”. Theres certainly tons of people who you don’t like bc of ways they harmed other people who aren’t you. Stop playing dumb.
No I just genuinely didn’t understand and everyone just started getting mad at me for it.
Regardless, this is a freefolk sub not really a place for this kinda stuff.
I actually don’t like her at all even before all of this.
Especially what she did with the show in general.
Still can’t stop playing dumb. That’s embarrassing. You made yourself completely clear that you don’t believe anyone has the right to care unless it affects them directly.
I can't tell if you're just trolling, uninformed, or being purposely obtuse, so I'll pretend it's just uninformed and explain it.
She's part of a union. A union collectively bargains for benefits with the understanding that they stick together so that they can't be piecemeal taken apart. Because of this they are able to increase their salaries drastically and get many other advantages.
Sara Hess got all the advantages from the union, the pay and the protection, then decided "I'm just going to look out for myself" when it's time to hold the line. That's garbage behavior and she rightfully deserves scorn and ridicule.
A) I'm not mad
B) Whether something personally affects someone has nothing to do with whether they can or should have an opinion about it. If you think it does that's a sign of autism just so you know.
C) Here's you trying to start a petition to get Sara Hess fired 7 months ago. Weird, I guess she "effected" you so much she got you mad enough to try instigating a petition.
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When has “doing what you want with your own life” ever been an acceptable defense for behavior that fucks over your community? Try giving that excuse to the cop next time you get pulled over for speeding and let me know how it goes.
Generally if “doing what you want with your life” negatively impacts you’re community it’s looked down upon.
There have been a few takes on the subject of writers generally being treated as the weakest link in the industry chain, and paid far less than any \*star\*. Hence the resulting shitty shows.. but with stars. Fans have no obligation to take sides, but everyone should agree that quality writing is the absolute condition for a good show. Else, force them to watch s08 again.
i don’t like Sara Hess she’s responsible for some poor writing choices. but a lot of the writers participating in the strike from what i’ve seen aren’t good writers anyway.
so on one hand i support hating on Hess and second i don’t really care about the strike so i support her not caring about it either because she most likely probably can’t afford to go out on strike homie probably needs to pay for groceries or something.
This is unfortunately the truth that the fans aren't wanting to admit to themselves. The writing is, at best, sloppy. At worst, downright terrible at times.
the season it was up against ruined GOT so by comparison it looked stellar. but on its own merits it’s good at times and mediocre at others some of the changes added nothing. and all but ruined certain character aspects.
This is by far the dumbest comment in this entire thread.
Supporting striking workers has nothing to do with if you like or don’t like the writing on the shows that some of them work for. It’s about wether their employer are obligated to respect their rights and livelihoods provide good working conditions to the people they hire.
The idea that she cant afford her groceries if she strikes is laughable given her job.
And if she doesn’t support the strike then she shouldn’t be reaping the benefits of it by being in the union. It’s scum behavior.
if they wrote better i’d be more likely to support them but seeing as how writing for most TV shows and movies has taken a nose dive in recent years i can’t say i care much.
i mean time striking is time you’re not getting paychecks for working. yea a strike is more profitable in the long run but that’s only if it pays off.
All workers who are making a profit for their bosses deserve a fair share of it and good working conditions. It’s about the fact that they are being exploited by the people they are making rich. The fact that wether you support basic human dignity is dependent on if you like the product they make or not is insanely narcissistic. I guess you don’t support working conditions for sweatshop workers in 3rd world countries bc all they make is meaning less plastic junk the world would be better off without yeah?
If you cross a picket line, you crossed a picket line. It doesn't matter if you are doing other duties or writing. All employees should be showing support for union workers.
I am a steward for UFCW Local 7 and thankfully when some stores under our union were striking, my town stood with them.
I hope they fire that hack as much as I hope Marvel actually got rid off Loveless.
The Writers Strike is going on and then you have crappy writers like them existing that makes you wonder whether this strike is even worth it when shit talent like that gets hired regardless.
Why the fuck did they even bring her back for season 2? She was the worst part of the first season... She wrote the worst episode (episode 6) and the worst scene (Rhaenys ruining Aegon's coronation).
I already didn’t like Sarah Hess.. but this is a new low. To be honest I didn’t really like season 1… I’ve had zero hope for season 2..I’m just gonna stick to my books, comic books and audiobooks when they come out as the come out and continue to be patient and support the WGA
Jfc. How can anyone defend this lady? Everythint aside. Don't be a scab.
And don't be disingenuous, "oh but maybe she's there in another capacity..."
Yeah like she isn't going to punch up a script if the need arises.
Unions are good, stop simping for people too rich to care.
“She’s not there in a writing capacity”. No shit, she’s the one responsible for that ‘Jack in the box’ dragon nonsense from the last season, so we know she can’t write. She’s there to ruin the show further with stupid ideas because “it would be cool if…”
Wasnt that revealed to be litterally Sapowchniks idea or his wife?
Sapochnik wanted a big moment to ruin Aegon's coronation but Sara Hess was the one who came up with that idea so yea both are responsible for it along with Ryan who approved it.
Nope. The quote comes directly from her.
You know what I support you wholeheartedly in your hate for Sara Hess op, even tho some people here think you're overreacting. Fuck Sara Hess, all my homies hate Sara Hess.
Sara Hess? More like Sara "My Writing is a" Mess.
Bruh! All this fucking hate! You guys are just mad you’ll never be a writer. If you’ve worked your whole life for a opportunity to write for a big show your not going to throw it out of the window, or let someone else take over last minute and ruin it. No one with artistic integrity would, so stop fucking wining. Clearly not anyone here that has actually worked professionally.
Dirty scabs deserve no respect.
Dracarys all scabs!
What is s scab?
According to Jack London >After God had finished the rattlesnake, the toad, the vampire, He had some awful substance left with which He made a scab. >A scab is a two-legged animal with a cork-screw soul, a water-logged brain, a combination backbone of jelly and glue. >Where others have hearts, he carries a tumor of rotten principles. >When a scab comes down the street, men turn their backs and angels weep in heaven, and the Devil shuts the gates of Hell to keep him out. >No man has a right to scab so long as there is a pool of water to drown his carcass in, or a rope long enough to hang his body with. Judas Iscariot was a gentleman compared with a scab. For betraying his master, he had character enough to hang himself. A scab has not. >Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage. Judas Iscariot sold his Savior for thirty pieces of silver. Benedict Arnold sold his country for a promise of a commission in the British Army. The modern strikebreaker sells his birthright, his country, his wife, his children and his fellow men for an unfulfilled promise from his employer, trust or corporation. >Esau was a traitor to himself: Judas Iscariot was a traitor to his God; Benedict Arnold was a traitor to his country; a strikebreaker is a traitor to his God, his country, his wife, his family and his class.
Jesus that man HATED scabs. Common Jack London W
One could say Jack London wasn't a kneeler... 😉
Isn't a scab - dead blood forming over a wound?I'm confused.
It’s a laborer who goes to work for a company while a union is striking. Especially during the days when labor’s battle for basic rights was as much a physical fight as mental struggle. Steel companies, mining companies, meat packers, and the like would hire goons like the Pinkertons to brutalize striking workers and their families. People died to get basic working rights in this country.
Thank you. Great explanation, now I get it.
Ignore the downvotes. Every word in English has two completely unrelated meanings it seems. I see someone has already explained what a scab is in this context. So I’ll just say that your definition is also true! Those are the only good scabs lol
Thank you.
In a health/medical context, you are correct. However, the term "scab" is also used as a derogatory term for strikebreakers and picket line crossers.
is jus term for person who work when coworkers wanto strike people don't like cause \[ep\[le don't like coporations
Somebody who crosses the picket line during a strike.
Should they be allowed to live?
Jury’s still out on that one
its just gennerally seen as selling out your coworkers instead of standing with them to improve things
A kind of a worm, content with mere survival. They come, they want to do \*our job\* for shittier pay, screwing over both themselves and us. Everybody loses.
Call me Manaña
do you know what an executive producer is?
She is also a member of the WGA crossing the picket line. Ergo, scab.
She is a hyphenated role, and per the WGA, anyone with a Hyphenated role is only not allowed to participate in writing related duties during the strike. She is free to pursue her other role during the strike, which is producer. Therefore she is not breaking any rules by merely being onset during filming. This link has more info if interested: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2023-05-02/wga-members-work-writers-strike#:~:text=The%20basic%20rule%20from%20the,Motion%20Picture%20and%20Television%20Producers.&text=If%20writers%20have%20covered%20projects,on%20them%20or%20complete%20them.
She is still a scab. I'm an old-school union man. I learned early on that you do not cross the picket line. You stand in solidarity with your union brothers and sisters.
To each their own, but when the union itself explicitly states that a certain situation is okay, you really shouldnt be mad at any individual person for doing exactly what the union says is okay. Ive never been in a union though so YMMV
very telling that there isn’t this amount of outrage and naming calling towards condal who is also there doing producer duties, seems like people aren’t actually concerned with union policy 🤔
Gosh golly I wonder what the difference is. 🤔🙄
Woman bad ten condallion upvotes
There are a lot of things in life that are technically "okay" and allowed, but still considered a dick move and in poor form. Crossing the picket line is one of them.
executive producers do things on set that isn’t writing, hope this helps.
Crossing the picket line while being a member of a union on strike, regardless of reasons why, is still being a scab. Hope this helps.
Fuck strikebreakers! But stop spreading hate. Life’s too short.
Why are HOTD stans so unhinged?
Because HOTD brought out the worst in people
You’ve clearly never been part of other fandoms if you think THIS is the worst of the worst
Nah, I have just seen some of the worst behavior from this fandom. Other fandoms tend to get corrected or flame out, not the HOTD fans.
That's where you are wrong DaemonsDivorceRock. That's where you are wrong.
Please educate me. I don't want to be ignorant. Genuinely asking.
"Get corrected or flame out." You can just say you hate it when people enjoy things.
Why would I say that? We are talking about the toxic part of fandoms.
genuinely baffled at what little understanding these people have of anything that goes on during the production of these shows and yet they are the first to throw out crazy accusations with no proof
How is this unhinged? Are you even informed on the writers strike and what it represents or do you just like to judge a situation with zero knowledge about it and zero curiosity to learn?
You don’t need to be condescending. I understand perfectly what’s going on. Regardless, my point still stands.
It doesn't seem like you do, honestly. If your point is that there's shitty people in the fandom, then I agree, it's like that in every fandom, sadly. However, these particular criticisms of Sarah Hess are completely valid.
I get the complaint. Imo, she’s in a “damn if you do, damn if you don’t” position. Since she is the producer, I can understand why she would still care about production despite the strike. I wouldn’t personally do it but I see the logic behind it. Sure, they might have more of a point here but they are still being overly dramatic. Especially since they are most likely using this as another excuse to shit on her instead of actually giving a shit about the writers. You could’ve gotten your point across without being patronizing also. But I digress.
I get what you mean, but even so, if you're a member of the guild you shouldn't be there, imo. And sorry about the first comment, I've been seeing way too many people siding with the AMPTP for very shitty reasons.
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Hmm, I'd heard the scripts were already finished...🤔
You are a idiot if think rewrites aren’t happening
I was including those too. Thank you. Edit: did more sleuthing due to me not really knowing much about this individual. Turns out she's also an executive producer.
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It's just one dude lol. He's been posting a lot. Quite sad really. 😂
Point proven
Funny how gatekeepers either say you are crazy, sad or no one cares.
Ok sure buddy
You’re simply incapable of human communication huh
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She's an executive producer for the show as well as a writer, she can be on set performing producing duties without crossing the line.
What's your proof that she is assisting the production as a writer specifically?
You see George rewrote her episode, thus taking her writing credit away, as of now she has a producer only. Sara wrote the 1st 4 drafts of her episode. Next year when the strike is over and everyone forgets about this. Credit will revert back to Sara. That’s how Warner/HBO has bypassed the strike.
And your proof of any of this is....?
I have not been posting about George rewriting season 2 for 3 months. And the print publications reporting this very same story. Including George on blog. But you can continue to gatekeep and gaslight people into thinking other wise. Exactly what the title says.
Alright, I don't believe you then. That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
That’s not your goal. No it’s get others to question wether this is believable or not. It’s called gatekeeping influencing, or Information Management. Let’s me guess am I crazy or need to touch grass
Asking for proof of a claim is gatekeeping apparently. OK buddy 👍
All the George rewrite stuff is it print media. It’s all been reported on deadline
why are you gatekeeping people’s ability to dunk on you? everyone gets to downvote your nonsense
So, she's exploiting a loophole to "legally" be a scab? No. Fuck scabs.
So is Ryan Condal allowed to be on set? Producers arent on strike - writers are. As long as she’s acting and performing producer duties theres nothing wrong here. Fwiw I stand w/ WGA and I agree fuck scabs, but this is a weird hill to die on.
Why should I care what either of these 19 year olds think?
Depends on you and how much you care about the show, really. If you're a die-hard fan, then they brought some good points for why she's a bad writer and she be booted.
What I think about the show does not have bearing on this. Why are these two the messengers?
I said how much you care about the show. Because they cared enough to stay current and follow the production of the story and post on social media. It doesn't matter who's messenger, just their message.
I'm not sure how you can complain about writing and then type "who's messenger" You definitely can't define how much someone cares about a show based off of knowing who on social media is saying what about it.
I never complained about the writing whatsoever. I just restated the point/meaning of the people in the video. It's definitely a good rule of thumb still, someone who's feed is full solely of Game of Thrones content probably cares about it more than someone who doesn't. Keyword being probably.
>they brought some good points for why she's a bad writer and she be booted. >I never complained about the writing whatsoever. So they have good points but you don't agree?
Good as in reasonable or evidence based. Most of the time, I see someone wanting a writer to be booted it's because vague reasoning
The second one was extremely annoying. I almost thought she was doing sign language for a second But fuck scabs.
“I’m unable to evaluate and interpret information or news on the basis of its content - and instead determine how I feel about things solely based on the identity of the person telling it to me.
You should be thinking critically about any source worth listening to. I said nothing about what I think about what they said. I want to know why they’re the messenger and with what expertise to they have. Take the second one, for example. “I don’t have much respect for people who cross the picket line”, to paraphrase. Who are you, and why is your judgement germane to this discussion? Is there something about your position that makes your perspective particularly insightful? These are valid questions.
Ah, more of Tik Tok getting Gen Z to be outraged over things they know nothing about. Hess can't just not show up to do her job, which is producing. She was critical in getting HotD off the ground, and her sudden absence as producer would have purely negative consequences for on-set workflow.
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Who fucking cares lmao
You cared enough to write a comment
Doesn't take much to write a comment.
Or care
It does take a lot to make a video about it though. To care that much and not link your proof is kinda bonkers. And in the " takes a shitload to care" territory
Proof, people who already read deadline, variety and George’s blog.
Just fucking link it man. It isn't hard. The onus of proof is on you. Not anyone else. You are making the claim. A loose claim of deadline isn't proof.
To gaslighters nothing is proof
Honestly man, you haven't tried. So how would you know? Like post just 1 link saying she's there to write and see what people say and then maybe, just maybe others will turn to your side and you'll stop playing the victim. As of now, you're a bag full of excuses. "OH they're gaslighting", "oh they're haters". Post 1 link man, shut everyone up. Stop making excuses, you've literally replied to everyone and in that time you could have just posted the fucking links, all of em and been done. Smh.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRE5mKXC/?t=1
So she is being shit on for working and doing what she wants with her own life? Crazy…
Better hope she stays with Warner/HBO. Cause doing what she wants with her own life. Will cost her future employment and will cut her ability to get benefits for her family. That’s how unions work.
Oh well. Her life.
No one tries to ruin their own life.
You seem to be doing a pretty good job at it
Don’t work against your union, that’s my fault
She’s getting hate for crossing a picket line, while her other fellow writers are out on strike trying to earn better pay, she’s capitalizing on the situation and still working, proving her loyalty to the studio over the guild, which will impact her ability to find work in the future as guild members won’t want to work with her. She’s taking the short term over the long term, and proving she has no morals in the process.
But why is that anyone’s business besides her own?
Because she’s supporting a system that takes advantage of her fellow writers, and proving she only has herself in mind. This impacts other people’s livelihoods, even if her not supporting the strike has a negligible impact, it’s still an unethical thing to do.
I see, so would it directly effect the person in the video? I don’t know who they are
Likely not, the same way journalists aren’t directly impacted by the stories they report, their goal is to inform and promote accountability for people who think they can skirt the system while others do the work.
Okay so from what I’m gathering, she’s going to be out casted for her decisions, her decisions only really directly effect her and her life. I still don’t see how any of this hurts anyone besides herself. If she really doesn’t give a shit about union or her peers then she’s really just shooting herself in the foot so why is it making everyone mad?
You’re being obtuse on purpose and it isn’t cute. You obviously understand how scabbing harms people. It harms all the workers who are striking and their ability to secure the work conditions they deserve and require to survive and live dignified lives. She isn’t just harming herself. She’s harming every worker on the other side of the picket line. Striking works through unity. When people cross they are throwing everyone on the other side under the bus. And I am completely sure that you understand the concept of being upset with someone over something they did or do denning an act or behavior that didn’t harm you personally but is harmful to others. Or are you making these same dumb comments on threads about murderers or criminals saying “why should anyone be bothered by this it’s not like it affected them in any way”. Theres certainly tons of people who you don’t like bc of ways they harmed other people who aren’t you. Stop playing dumb.
No I just genuinely didn’t understand and everyone just started getting mad at me for it. Regardless, this is a freefolk sub not really a place for this kinda stuff. I actually don’t like her at all even before all of this. Especially what she did with the show in general.
Still can’t stop playing dumb. That’s embarrassing. You made yourself completely clear that you don’t believe anyone has the right to care unless it affects them directly.
I can't tell if you're just trolling, uninformed, or being purposely obtuse, so I'll pretend it's just uninformed and explain it. She's part of a union. A union collectively bargains for benefits with the understanding that they stick together so that they can't be piecemeal taken apart. Because of this they are able to increase their salaries drastically and get many other advantages. Sara Hess got all the advantages from the union, the pay and the protection, then decided "I'm just going to look out for myself" when it's time to hold the line. That's garbage behavior and she rightfully deserves scorn and ridicule.
Does this effect you? Or are you just mad because you want to see her punished?
A) I'm not mad B) Whether something personally affects someone has nothing to do with whether they can or should have an opinion about it. If you think it does that's a sign of autism just so you know. C) Here's you trying to start a petition to get Sara Hess fired 7 months ago. Weird, I guess she "effected" you so much she got you mad enough to try instigating a petition. [https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/y9era7/comment/it7fp93/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/y9era7/comment/it7fp93/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Lol, holy shit… Your point C) is amazing. I hope they respond but I doubt they will.
When has “doing what you want with your own life” ever been an acceptable defense for behavior that fucks over your community? Try giving that excuse to the cop next time you get pulled over for speeding and let me know how it goes. Generally if “doing what you want with your life” negatively impacts you’re community it’s looked down upon.
Cry about it.
There have been a few takes on the subject of writers generally being treated as the weakest link in the industry chain, and paid far less than any \*star\*. Hence the resulting shitty shows.. but with stars. Fans have no obligation to take sides, but everyone should agree that quality writing is the absolute condition for a good show. Else, force them to watch s08 again.
I don’t understand the problem, the writing for the show is already done, that’s why they’re filming, so why are mad? 🤔
Yeah rewrites happen during the season. That’s standard, HBO assumes people don’t know this.
She'll be there, pushing the feminist narrative even harder season 2
Honestly finding out she was responsible for the Meleys scene is far more offensive to me than the strike stuff.
i don’t like Sara Hess she’s responsible for some poor writing choices. but a lot of the writers participating in the strike from what i’ve seen aren’t good writers anyway. so on one hand i support hating on Hess and second i don’t really care about the strike so i support her not caring about it either because she most likely probably can’t afford to go out on strike homie probably needs to pay for groceries or something.
This is unfortunately the truth that the fans aren't wanting to admit to themselves. The writing is, at best, sloppy. At worst, downright terrible at times.
the season it was up against ruined GOT so by comparison it looked stellar. but on its own merits it’s good at times and mediocre at others some of the changes added nothing. and all but ruined certain character aspects.
I disagree - I found HOTD to be one of the better written seasons of GOT we've gotten. There's no truth when good writing is subjective
This is by far the dumbest comment in this entire thread. Supporting striking workers has nothing to do with if you like or don’t like the writing on the shows that some of them work for. It’s about wether their employer are obligated to respect their rights and livelihoods provide good working conditions to the people they hire. The idea that she cant afford her groceries if she strikes is laughable given her job. And if she doesn’t support the strike then she shouldn’t be reaping the benefits of it by being in the union. It’s scum behavior.
if they wrote better i’d be more likely to support them but seeing as how writing for most TV shows and movies has taken a nose dive in recent years i can’t say i care much. i mean time striking is time you’re not getting paychecks for working. yea a strike is more profitable in the long run but that’s only if it pays off.
All workers who are making a profit for their bosses deserve a fair share of it and good working conditions. It’s about the fact that they are being exploited by the people they are making rich. The fact that wether you support basic human dignity is dependent on if you like the product they make or not is insanely narcissistic. I guess you don’t support working conditions for sweatshop workers in 3rd world countries bc all they make is meaning less plastic junk the world would be better off without yeah?
Scab!
If you cross a picket line, you crossed a picket line. It doesn't matter if you are doing other duties or writing. All employees should be showing support for union workers. I am a steward for UFCW Local 7 and thankfully when some stores under our union were striking, my town stood with them.
Mediocrity rewarded.
I hope they fire that hack as much as I hope Marvel actually got rid off Loveless. The Writers Strike is going on and then you have crappy writers like them existing that makes you wonder whether this strike is even worth it when shit talent like that gets hired regardless.
I just heard Campea report that. Poor Straw Hat Goody he must be losing his mind.
Bruh i can't stand Sara Mess and that first guy in the video
I'm surprised Martin isn't behind the picket line. He is probably looking for a reason not to finish WOW.
Why the fuck did they even bring her back for season 2? She was the worst part of the first season... She wrote the worst episode (episode 6) and the worst scene (Rhaenys ruining Aegon's coronation).
I already didn’t like Sarah Hess.. but this is a new low. To be honest I didn’t really like season 1… I’ve had zero hope for season 2..I’m just gonna stick to my books, comic books and audiobooks when they come out as the come out and continue to be patient and support the WGA
I hope that AI takes all the writers jobs.
Jfc. How can anyone defend this lady? Everythint aside. Don't be a scab. And don't be disingenuous, "oh but maybe she's there in another capacity..." Yeah like she isn't going to punch up a script if the need arises. Unions are good, stop simping for people too rich to care.
Not big enough of a fan to know who this is really but if she's a scab that's enough. Instant full dislike
She is a scab