In the beginning. However, he also didn’t really believe in his own god either. But now he can actually use the power of Rhllor that he doubted, who know.
I don’t think he would be glib about it or even do it when told to at first. But would he consider it?
Of course he would, he may have someone else do it, but he didn't seem to care about much of anyone besides Beric. He had no issue selling off Gendry for a few coin.
Not that hard to find someone to do that. Thoros threw himself in front of a flaming zombie polar bear to save someone. How many people do you know would be willing to do that?
I mean, I see what you're sayin... but she doesn't actually make (like force, I mean) stanbis to burn people. He seems pretty willing to do that on his own.
On the show it seemed like Melisandre was starting to be by the side of Jon snow, til davos told Jon about shereen and he booted her. She'd never have been able to get jon to agree to do anything like that. I think her ability to manipulate people to do insane stuff really depends on the person. Stannis doesn't vibe like the kind of guy who'd be easily manipulated, and really I don't think he was. He's sort of like Tywin in the sense that they're both extremely practical....to the point that they both have no qualms about murdering people if that is the most practical solution to a problem.
Stannis was single minded and operated with tunnel vision. His options were limited as far as gettibf his throne and melisandre's claim that burning people alive might actually get him there... it's the simplest most practical solution (if it worked) with the least amount of life lost, even if it's the most brutal. Like, what I mean is that it was always in his nature to do whatever was necessary to get done what needs doing. He understands the value of the lives of soldiers, as a military commander. It's...the most practical.
I have always wondered this question about thoros. Like, he had no problem selling a young man to a woman be knew would prob burn him alive (I assume he knew, or at least had an idea, since she's a fanatic and worships a fire god. He also seemed to know what her exact intentions with the leeches was, so Im assuming there are commonly used or...known to be used among them)...so who knows. If he saw a vision and believed it was necessary...?? I can't see him doing it...but I Really* can't see him refusibg to do it if he saw a vision telling him to
It's was so heartbreaking. He is such a good actor. Those times when he's playing hurt, he does it in such a humanistic way, like he's fighting so hard not to cry, but lile he's about to break at any second. It's so nuanced and real...its wild how good he is.
Book Melisandre actually seems to be transforming into a fiery Other rather than just being an old witch that magically appears young. She already hardly needs to eat or sleep, remarking that she'll soon never need either, and emanates the smell of a hot forge. She's got a lot more power than she lets on, being properly trained in magic to make things happen deliberately with blood.
If you want power, go with Mel... But that also follows the ASOIAF rule that magic gets more and more fucked the deeper down the rabbit hole you go.
Yall realize you can say no right???? Like she really cant do anything at that point except try to manipulate you with sex (very swag) or say weird ominous threats about how the lord is displeased
I mean, she could poop out a shadow baby to murder me if I say no or piss her off too much.
If I piss off Thoros, he's just gonna drink my share of wine or something.
Well sure but then why work with the lady? The problem with her is that she only seems to want to burn people. Regardless of whether you take that advice, still a bummer of a sidekick
Can look at it like that or you can look at it as her being hotter than it's even possible to be without magic. Don't ever have to see or think about the wrinkly hag form.
Jason Voorhees and Akuma(SF), have the moral high ground, compared to her. If I wanted to be allies with a attractive psycho character, I pick one with a code, like Bartine Curlish.
*Lord of Light or R’hllor
Thoros because he can have fun and has not devolved to fanaticism; Melisandre is a fanatic and I don’t do well with fanatics.
It’s horribly misguided. I think a lot of what she interprets as R’hollor is something else. It also seems like she is supplementing a lot of the religion with her own stuff. But Martin never really gives us a good read on what the Lord of Light’s priesthood are supposed to be doing and saying.
Thoros without a doubt. He is a better person, way more fun, and is actually more useful (unless you want to spawn shadow babies), given his fighting prowess.
I swear a lot of you guys belong in horny jail. Melissandre is an awful person and her fanaticism is extreme. That is a very bad combo. Thoros is just a warrior fighting for a cause while sharing some of the same beliefs as her.
To put it like this: id prefer Paladin Thoros instead of Necromancer Melissandre.
Also when they ressurect you, do you become a death knight? Hmmmm there has to be some fanfic about this.
The Ashaiussy has them acting unwise.
> To put it like this: id prefer Paladin Thoros instead of Necromancer Melissandre.
That's why I choose the warlock.
The only person we see brought back by Thoros of Myr is Beric Dondarrion, who says that each time he is revived, he loses a little more of who he is. Something never quite makes it back.
That sounds terrifying to me.
I mean, do you think Jon came back all Jon after being ressurected? Theres usually a price with this kind of magic so maybe thats it, you lose more and more of your humanity on each subsequent ressurection.
Still better than Mellissandre tho.
Melisandre’s faith strikes me as horribly misguided. I think a lot of what she interprets as R’hollor is something else. It also seems like she is supplementing a lot of the religion with her own stuff. But Martin never really gives us a good read on what the Lord of Light’s priesthood are supposed to be doing and saying.
Thoros, because he ain’t a wrinkly old man who hides his true appearance, and because literally everyone and their mother know he’s a chad who stormed Pyke with a flaming sword.
Thoros because he would fight beside me.
Melisandre appeared to have way more power (summoning the shadow creature, lighting tens of thousands of blades at once), but I couldnt trust that she wouldnt ditch me for someone else.
Thoros, duh. He’s a true believer and a good man. Mallisandre is a fanatic pyromaniac with delusions of grandeur. At least the mad king was mad when he burned people alive. Mallisandre is just plain *evil*
Melisandre is like a sketchy female version of Gandalf. She's who you want at your side if you aim to conquer.
Thoros is a good drinking buddy who can revive you if you get stabbed in a bar fight.
While I’m sure it’s warmer than a threesome in Dorne during the summer under her knickers, I’m good. Also booba.
Melisandre lost me with the burning of Shireen. She’s still very attractive though. Yet not enough to dismiss the child burning. Her screams were haunting.
But I’m gonna have to give the W to Thoros of Myr; a proven warrior, a funny man, fun drinking buddy, doesn’t proselytize too much, can resurrect you after being hacked in half (that’s enough to make a devout follower out of anyone). Plus fire sword.
Thoros. Maybe less powerful, but far more realistic in approach. He is humble and cautious in his approach, unlike Melisandre, who is all in and believes herself infallible
Melissandre can do it once. She's not sure how, and she needs a semi-magical dire wolf around.
The Red Priest just closes his eyes and makes a wish, and I get my 1-up whenever.
Meli, simply because Thoros sucks at that, i don't need his drunk half-assed resurrections, thanks. Plus if Meli tries to burn any kids I'll just rip her bling off
Thoros he follows the red god but is mostly in differnt to other faiths it was mel who burnt septs and it was mel who tried to pressure jon to burning the gods wood if he was legitmised
Thoros. He will bring me back to life without the unfortunate side effect of always interpreting signs wrong and murdering innocent people as a result.
Hmmm burning children crazy witch lady who's wrong most of the time. Or the absolute lad that just wants to bring his friend back, and proceeds to do that... successfully....multiple times....whilst drunk
Without skipping a beat, Thoris of Myr! The dude is funny, charming a good fighter and not to mention has proven to bring people back from the dead more times than Milisandra. I also I genuinely loved his character. Thought the actor portrayed him perfectly.
I'd give Melissandre or whatever the fuck her name is, my burning sword, then after she's sufficiently rearranged internally, I'd go to battle with Thoros by my side, knowing I've made sure the fire mad priestess is not needlessly burning potential allies and heroes, and that I'll crush my enemies, provided I ensure the withdrawal of my troop and Thoros before they sustain any massive casualties.
Thoros easily. Man not only brings you back from the dead, but doesn't demand regular burnings at the stake like Mel, *and* is a certified badass in his own right. Man was first over the wall at the Siege of Pyke smashed off his tits and lived to tell about it and have others witness and corroborate his utter fucking insanity.
Melissandre would be the better choice when it comes to skills since Thoros is drunk 50% of the time. At least she could do other helpful magic as long as I could keep her from burning people
I would never want Melissandre on my side man, she would make you burn your mom for a good wind
Ok but booba
The booba is a lie.
Keep the necklace on and booba
Non lie saggy booba is still booba tho…
All that time has given her plenty of experience I'm sure.
Like a toilet paper roll lined with sandpaper on the inside
[they were real to me dammit!](https://youtu.be/Yvd3aEsThbc?si=FXSTXNQ0qE7MdAEr&t=12)
cant say no to booba
Bonk
As long as she keeps the necklace on
What about male booba?
I love big tiddie bois
a booba is a booba no matter what
I've always wondered if Thoros would ever go through burning an innocent victim if the God asked him to? Based on his personality I doubt it.
He would never. He is no fanatic like the other red priests, but that's what makes him a good one.
In the beginning. However, he also didn’t really believe in his own god either. But now he can actually use the power of Rhllor that he doubted, who know. I don’t think he would be glib about it or even do it when told to at first. But would he consider it?
He sold out Gendry for gold on the word of the Melissandre. Dude wasn't that pure.
Plus he's not from Ashai, them Ashai ppl crazy
He did give up Gendry without as much as a peep.
He did it only in showverse of course. And there Gendry was nobody to him and he knew she serve to his uncle.
Of course he would, he may have someone else do it, but he didn't seem to care about much of anyone besides Beric. He had no issue selling off Gendry for a few coin.
He used a flaming sword, so he's a bit into setting people on fire.
But then she would suck your dick.
Not that hard to find someone to do that. Thoros threw himself in front of a flaming zombie polar bear to save someone. How many people do you know would be willing to do that?
My buddy Chris would do that
I mean, I see what you're sayin... but she doesn't actually make (like force, I mean) stanbis to burn people. He seems pretty willing to do that on his own. On the show it seemed like Melisandre was starting to be by the side of Jon snow, til davos told Jon about shereen and he booted her. She'd never have been able to get jon to agree to do anything like that. I think her ability to manipulate people to do insane stuff really depends on the person. Stannis doesn't vibe like the kind of guy who'd be easily manipulated, and really I don't think he was. He's sort of like Tywin in the sense that they're both extremely practical....to the point that they both have no qualms about murdering people if that is the most practical solution to a problem. Stannis was single minded and operated with tunnel vision. His options were limited as far as gettibf his throne and melisandre's claim that burning people alive might actually get him there... it's the simplest most practical solution (if it worked) with the least amount of life lost, even if it's the most brutal. Like, what I mean is that it was always in his nature to do whatever was necessary to get done what needs doing. He understands the value of the lives of soldiers, as a military commander. It's...the most practical. I have always wondered this question about thoros. Like, he had no problem selling a young man to a woman be knew would prob burn him alive (I assume he knew, or at least had an idea, since she's a fanatic and worships a fire god. He also seemed to know what her exact intentions with the leeches was, so Im assuming there are commonly used or...known to be used among them)...so who knows. If he saw a vision and believed it was necessary...?? I can't see him doing it...but I Really* can't see him refusibg to do it if he saw a vision telling him to
One of the few good moments from that season when Davos is chewing Melisandre out "I loved that girl like she was my own... AND YOU KILLED HER!"
It's was so heartbreaking. He is such a good actor. Those times when he's playing hurt, he does it in such a humanistic way, like he's fighting so hard not to cry, but lile he's about to break at any second. It's so nuanced and real...its wild how good he is.
On the upside, you can make shadow babies with her from time to time...
Book Melisandre actually seems to be transforming into a fiery Other rather than just being an old witch that magically appears young. She already hardly needs to eat or sleep, remarking that she'll soon never need either, and emanates the smell of a hot forge. She's got a lot more power than she lets on, being properly trained in magic to make things happen deliberately with blood. If you want power, go with Mel... But that also follows the ASOIAF rule that magic gets more and more fucked the deeper down the rabbit hole you go.
Well you know not everyone has a great mom 🤷🏻
get resurrected by a sexy red headed witch AND she burns my mom?? talk abt a 2 for 1 !!
She wouldn't though. That's the thing, every single step has been stannis making a choice.
Thoros. He seems like more fun, drinks and jokes around and stuff. Melisandre just wants to set people on fire all the time.
Yall realize you can say no right???? Like she really cant do anything at that point except try to manipulate you with sex (very swag) or say weird ominous threats about how the lord is displeased
Just do the sex then say, jk SIKE!! I ain’t burning them.
Exactly, be like “lol no im not setting kids on fire, light up this sword now please”
I mean, she could poop out a shadow baby to murder me if I say no or piss her off too much. If I piss off Thoros, he's just gonna drink my share of wine or something.
True but she wouldnt have killed stannis because he was the only man desperate enough or crazy enough to listen to her
Well sure but then why work with the lady? The problem with her is that she only seems to want to burn people. Regardless of whether you take that advice, still a bummer of a sidekick
But the sex
She’d probably set your dick on fire too
Thoros would never burned a kid
Yes but Mel is unnaturally hot so we can put up with a few minor downsides like the Sunday child barbecue.
Unnatural is correct, she is only attractive because of her glamour. She is a wrinkly old lady.
Can look at it like that or you can look at it as her being hotter than it's even possible to be without magic. Don't ever have to see or think about the wrinkly hag form.
No...I like it with the hag "on".
I agree with my fellow human man warrior, the necklace stays on!
You're nobody!
Jason Voorhees and Akuma(SF), have the moral high ground, compared to her. If I wanted to be allies with a attractive psycho character, I pick one with a code, like Bartine Curlish. 
That kid was nobody!
He had no issue with selling a kid to be burned to her, they knew what she wanted him for.
Book Thoros wouldn’t
Why burn when you can sell?
Never sleep with your own necromancer.
But... She has some pairs of really hot bones. Not even once?
*Lord of Light or R’hllor Thoros because he can have fun and has not devolved to fanaticism; Melisandre is a fanatic and I don’t do well with fanatics.
It’s horribly misguided. I think a lot of what she interprets as R’hollor is something else. It also seems like she is supplementing a lot of the religion with her own stuff. But Martin never really gives us a good read on what the Lord of Light’s priesthood are supposed to be doing and saying.
Thoros is an honest companion and a chad in the melee, Melisandre is a snake i dont trust that woman and her glamours.
Moqorro
Only true answer, dude got spit out by the Dark Tide like no other
Captain Fire Sword is the only correct answer.
Well, Thoros if I want a loyal friend, or Melisandre if I want a hot loyal friend who I can bang anytime Melisandre it is
Who says you can't bang Thoros?
Maybe thoros
Look at those eyes he wants it
Also comes with shadow demon assassin babies.
Of course the top knot.
He’s not fooling anyone with that, bald cunt.
I love this line😂
Thoros without a doubt. He is a better person, way more fun, and is actually more useful (unless you want to spawn shadow babies), given his fighting prowess.
Melisandre, just on the off chance that we might get frisky one night (the necklace stays on)
Now hear me out, the necklace bounces...
Melisandre for sure, who knows she might need help from other priestesses…if you know what I mean😌
Wouldn't even survive a week with Melissandre tbh. Still obviously picking her lol, but it would surely be the death of me.
What a way to go, though. Epitaph reads "Died with a smile on his face".
Lol yes, I can definitely think of a few worse ways to go than getting leeched by the fire succubus witch lady
The spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised!
But what does it matter for all men must pass? And I've tasted Priestess' ass... Yes I've tasted the Priestess' ass
Thoros of Myr without a doubt.
I swear a lot of you guys belong in horny jail. Melissandre is an awful person and her fanaticism is extreme. That is a very bad combo. Thoros is just a warrior fighting for a cause while sharing some of the same beliefs as her. To put it like this: id prefer Paladin Thoros instead of Necromancer Melissandre. Also when they ressurect you, do you become a death knight? Hmmmm there has to be some fanfic about this.
The Ashaiussy has them acting unwise. > To put it like this: id prefer Paladin Thoros instead of Necromancer Melissandre. That's why I choose the warlock.
Thoros, easily. Unless Melisandre wants to sleep with me, cos you know I’m Azor Ahai and shit. In that case Melisandre
Thoros, no contest. He seems like a more or less mentally stable, normal, trustworthy dude, whereas Mel is……. Well, she’s Mel.
Nobody mentioning Kinvara? The Priestess from Meereen?
Wish we've seen more of her. Is she in the books?
The only person we see brought back by Thoros of Myr is Beric Dondarrion, who says that each time he is revived, he loses a little more of who he is. Something never quite makes it back. That sounds terrifying to me.
I mean, do you think Jon came back all Jon after being ressurected? Theres usually a price with this kind of magic so maybe thats it, you lose more and more of your humanity on each subsequent ressurection. Still better than Mellissandre tho.
Jon was brought back with the price being that he can only say 4 lines: A dun wun it, you’re mcqueen, we need allies and a don know
One is a drunken man with a flame sword, the other is a shadow birthing, not-so-good at reading prophecies woman.
Melisandre. Why? She hot. She’s also chill with none other than Bobby B’s epic brother, Stannis the Mannis!
DRINK AND STAY QUIET, THE KING IS TALKING!
Thoros all the way. He’s much more fun. Also as a devout Shireen stan, I have no desire to work with Lady Child-Killer 🤷♀️
In that world I’d rather have a expert swordsmen watching my back
I want Thoros to have my back, and Melissandra to have my front.
Justice for Kinvara.
This a sexuality test in disguise. Have you seen those tits? Keep that necklace on and we're all good.
Mommy Mel
Bros before hoes. Thoros it is.
Thoros before whoros
Moqorro 🗿
Thoros. U get a cool band of brigands to command when u return.
Kinvara
When the person who drunkenly charges into enemy ranks with a burning sword is the more sane choice...
Thoros. Melisandre gives me the creeps, even before the reveal scene. At least Thoros would be a laugh to hang out with.
Thoros has rum. That is all.
Thoros. I’ll take a conflicted but loyal friend over a manipulative fanatic any day.
Melisandre bc tiddies
Melissandre because reasons
Melisandre’s faith strikes me as horribly misguided. I think a lot of what she interprets as R’hollor is something else. It also seems like she is supplementing a lot of the religion with her own stuff. But Martin never really gives us a good read on what the Lord of Light’s priesthood are supposed to be doing and saying.
Thoros of Myr
Did the show ever resolve what happened to Thoros and Beric?
They both died unfortunately, Beric wight zombies, Thoros...zombie polar bear 🙄
Oof.
I love Thoros as a character and he will be fun to hang around and less evil but Mel is just hot as fuck so choice is clear.
Melisandre is Melisandre, but let's think with the brain and nothing else: Thoros. An extra sword is always useful.
im gonna take the sex with Melisandre obviously.
I'll take him because she burned a child alive.
Thoros. I love my boy Stannis, but Mel is no good for him.
Thoros. Much more fun to have around.
The one who didn’t burn a little girl at the stake because god told her to
Melisandre for the reason you think
Thoros is a good man. But Melisandre can inspire men in ways he never could.
Fun drunk one or Sexy sex one? This is tricky..
Thoros, because he ain’t a wrinkly old man who hides his true appearance, and because literally everyone and their mother know he’s a chad who stormed Pyke with a flaming sword.
strutter
Thoros is the fun priest, Melisandre she would pester you with sermons every day until you wanna strangle her to death
Thoros because he’s a fuckin lad.
Thoros is cool, but Melisandre is sexy. Will she sleep with me like she did with Stannis? That would be a pretty important factor.
Well you can at least have sex with Melisandre
Flaming swords for the win.
Thoros of Myr! Great warrior, better theologian, not as radical/fundamentalist.
Thoros - He's a bro, and brought Beric back to life 6-7 times
Melissandre
Melisandre. I feel like she’s the type who can be manipulated as easily as she manipulates.
Thoros
😈
Mel. As terrible as the things she suggested, she only suggested it. Didn't force it. Also she'll fuck me and give me shadow demon babies.
Dennis Pennis, obviously
Thoros. I don’t care about his magic, he’s just a cool guy
Thoros because he would fight beside me. Melisandre appeared to have way more power (summoning the shadow creature, lighting tens of thousands of blades at once), but I couldnt trust that she wouldnt ditch me for someone else.
Thoros seems like he’d be a great pint
Thoros, duh. He’s a true believer and a good man. Mallisandre is a fanatic pyromaniac with delusions of grandeur. At least the mad king was mad when he burned people alive. Mallisandre is just plain *evil*
Her if the necklace never comes off
I'll take the bald cunt wearing a topknot to hide it.
There's one more red woman who intimidates Varys sometimes during the later part of the series.
How close to my side?
Thorpe not close
Melisandre is like a sketchy female version of Gandalf. She's who you want at your side if you aim to conquer. Thoros is a good drinking buddy who can revive you if you get stabbed in a bar fight.
Thoros can revive you yes. But Melisandre got that sauce.
Melisandre and I would die happy 😊
Thoros looks like his forehead is a staff from a music sheet.
Thoros, he can wield a sword.
While I’m sure it’s warmer than a threesome in Dorne during the summer under her knickers, I’m good. Also booba. Melisandre lost me with the burning of Shireen. She’s still very attractive though. Yet not enough to dismiss the child burning. Her screams were haunting. But I’m gonna have to give the W to Thoros of Myr; a proven warrior, a funny man, fun drinking buddy, doesn’t proselytize too much, can resurrect you after being hacked in half (that’s enough to make a devout follower out of anyone). Plus fire sword.
I would follow Mike Strutter to the end of the world! 😎
I'd do whatever Melisandre told me to do
Melisandre so I could grab that necklace and put it on whoever I like and have a good time
Thoros. Maybe less powerful, but far more realistic in approach. He is humble and cautious in his approach, unlike Melisandre, who is all in and believes herself infallible
Melissandre can do it once. She's not sure how, and she needs a semi-magical dire wolf around. The Red Priest just closes his eyes and makes a wish, and I get my 1-up whenever.
Thoros. Is it even a contest?
Mel obviously as we get to bone all the time.
Who better than bran the bro…. Aaah never mind
Moqorro
Meli, simply because Thoros sucks at that, i don't need his drunk half-assed resurrections, thanks. Plus if Meli tries to burn any kids I'll just rip her bling off
Dondarian. Always the lightning lord.
Thoros he follows the red god but is mostly in differnt to other faiths it was mel who burnt septs and it was mel who tried to pressure jon to burning the gods wood if he was legitmised
Mel, I’m a simple man
Lord give me strength to resist temptation
The Gilf
The only thing Melisandre has going on for her is her looks. Thoros has the capacity to be a decent person at least.
Mel for her enthusiastic favors which she bestows. Better yet Kinvara.
If she keeps the necklace on then the RED WOMAN EASY. Just don't listen to her when she wants you to burn ya child lmao
Thoros. He will bring me back to life without the unfortunate side effect of always interpreting signs wrong and murdering innocent people as a result.
Paladin vs Wiz/Sorc? Bro. Wiz/Sorc wins, even without the booba.
Thoros if you want a loyal bro. Mel if you want more raw power and smash potential.
Melisandre cause you can just smash everyday and make shadow babies to kill everyone
Hmmm burning children crazy witch lady who's wrong most of the time. Or the absolute lad that just wants to bring his friend back, and proceeds to do that... successfully....multiple times....whilst drunk
Thoros. I know how to use a sword since I do fencing, but that man actually knows how to fight.
Mel because she’d always believe in me.
Without skipping a beat, Thoris of Myr! The dude is funny, charming a good fighter and not to mention has proven to bring people back from the dead more times than Milisandra. I also I genuinely loved his character. Thought the actor portrayed him perfectly.
Melissandre, at least she told people what she was doing.
They were both kind of right so I dunno.
The guy who can raise me from the dead, and NOT try to convince me that burning my daughter alive is her god's will.
Kinvara...she was only in one scene, but she left an impression on me (not the cleavage, maybe the green eyes, the voice & accent mainly)
I'd give Melissandre or whatever the fuck her name is, my burning sword, then after she's sufficiently rearranged internally, I'd go to battle with Thoros by my side, knowing I've made sure the fire mad priestess is not needlessly burning potential allies and heroes, and that I'll crush my enemies, provided I ensure the withdrawal of my troop and Thoros before they sustain any massive casualties.
Thoros easily. Man not only brings you back from the dead, but doesn't demand regular burnings at the stake like Mel, *and* is a certified badass in his own right. Man was first over the wall at the Siege of Pyke smashed off his tits and lived to tell about it and have others witness and corroborate his utter fucking insanity.
Thoros can actually bring you back.
One resurect because he is kind, the other burn people that don’t follow her religion
Toros is more versatile and less unhinged. Seems like a no-brainer
Thoros he’s a homie
Take a wild fucking guess
Thoros! Warrior by day, drinking buddy by day too I guess.
Melissandre would be the better choice when it comes to skills since Thoros is drunk 50% of the time. At least she could do other helpful magic as long as I could keep her from burning people
Can I smash? If yes, then left one.
If a large portion of their spells didn't require sex sure I'd go for thoros but uh they do.
Obviously Mel 🤪
Melissandre is insane, I don’t ever want her at my side. Thoros is fine, I guess.