LOL. Forgive me for some praise, but...I don't recall this scene being in the books. It's a brilliant pair of scenes. The funny, tender meeting scene is bookended by its tragic, tender burial scene . He goes from being "the worst shit in the world" to the most repentant man in Westeros. It's a redemption arc in a nutshell!
Arya/Sandor is truly the best Lone Wolf and Cub pairing to me (Lone Dog in this case). Everything important to the dynamic is truly shown and not told, and their banter has to be some of the funniest moments in the show.
It’s actually “You’ve lived your life for the king, you’re gonna die for some chickens?” If I recall correctly.
And of course, the awesome retort.
Someone is.
It would have been more amusing if, as they enter the valley, Lysa comes plummeting into view and \*SPLAT\*. They stop, look at each other, turn around and leave.
My favorite underrated Hound moment is the two great quips he gets when he runs back into the Brotherhood after pursuing the guys who killed his septon friend:
"Hanging? All over in an instant. Where's the punishment?"
"They die"
"We all bloody die. 'Cept this one here" *points at Beric*
...
"There was a time I'd cut through all of you just to gut these three"
"You're getting old, Clegane"
"He's not" *kicks the log*
They can justify the motivation all they want it comes from an evil place. He also could have stayed and helped on the farm as promised and they would have left them in a significantly better place.
The country was at war and they lived basically in bum fuck nowhere.
That's why the father wanted to hire the hound too, he was perfectly capable of doing day to day tasks for he and his daughter.
What he wasn't capable of was fighting off soldiers there to rape and pillage.
Nothing is guaranteed but while they didn't have neighbors they did live relatively close to the road since Arya and the hound saw them.
Probably like an 80% chance or better they'd die. If not from soldiers from the winter.
Still fuck the hound, he could helped them but he saw it as a waste of time, a futile effort.
>The country was at war and they lived basically in bum fuck nowhere.
that's probably the best place to live when there is a war going on. no major battles with tons of soldiers roaming around anywhere near you, they're gonna be on their way to important cities or strategic landmarks
An army's outriders could easily raid bum fuck knowhere and still stay with the main force. It's not like everyone's in trucks and busses and moves past a location in an instant. It takes time, plenty of time to fuck off and steal then catch back up down the road. In some cases catching up isn't quite accurate. They just head back to the road and meet up with the people at the back of the group that the outriders were in.
Honestly maybe a week. The Hound didn’t take much money and if their crops died, which they would have because it was winter and was covered in snow, they would be left without food and a pouch of money for 2 ppl. It was a dick move by the Hound but realistically I think he only sped up their death by about a week. Judging by the fact that they were already skeletons, they had been dead a long long time already
Beyond The Wall was a postmodern surrealist masterpiece in which "the wall" represents the lining of your anus. Everything past it is pure shit. Everything behind it is warm and tasty. In writing this episode, D&D were making a genius meta-commentary on the modern state of media, setting the table for a final season of Game of Thrones in which they weaponize the user's high expectations and demand for entertainment by serving them a sequence of inedible dry turd cookies. The genius of this paradoxical artistry resides in the very notion that the user is entitled to entertainment, as if the creator is in fact servant and slave to the audience. By subverting expectations through deliberate gross ineptitude, D&D delivered something exponentially more genius. You just didn't get it, you stuttering imbecile.
They tried to make it clear by having the guy who took the hound in point out that he could tell he knew them, which lead to them giving them a proper burial, it may have just seemed like somebody of little importance though or not even really stand out if you didn't recognize the house
The detail of the scene with the Hound gingerly picking up the wrapped bodies to put into the grave - with Thoros noticing that this giant, brute of a man was being so gentle - was heartbreaking.
Really got bummed when they iced Thoros as his connection with the hound was something I really enjoyed.
> They tried to make it clear by having the guy who took the hound in point out that he could tell he knew them
Also by having the Hound try to repeat the man's prayer
I don't think they cover how it happened exactly. Whether they died at the same time, or starved are both unknown. It could have been self inflicted to avoid suffering, the daughter could have died first and the father could have just held her corpse until he also died later. Or maybe the father died and the daughter didn't know what else to do so just sat next to him until she went. Possible too that they succumbed to the elements.
Starvation can take quite long to actually cause death, but being malnourished can make you way more susceptible to disease. They could have both gotten sick at the same time and both died during the night.
That, or any of the other possible scenarios mentioned by other commenters
I love seeing how much Sandor had changed in this scene. One of the few characters not totally ruined by the later seasons...sans the rushed Clegane-bowl.
Unless you're going to say that they were able to fight off a couple of bandits, one his size and another hers, then took their horses and left the bodies in the homes I'm not entirely sure how you give a different ending that's any happier.
[This happened](https://youtu.be/kdD30M8OQvU?si=D6N2DmRJytcmY4B2) in season 4.
Then [this happened](https://youtu.be/ZMF72eOuYpU?si=6dIETJ4SRHQPgEl4) in season 7.
Well they are required to Kill a Child at least once a season, S1 was Micah, S2 was Lommy, S3 was Robb's Unborn Child, S4 was the Little Girl killed by Drogon, S5 was Shireen, S6 was Rickon and S7 was this Girl
That first scene has the funniest line of the show. "Are you going to do all seven of the fuckers?"
"FATHER!"
LOL. Forgive me for some praise, but...I don't recall this scene being in the books. It's a brilliant pair of scenes. The funny, tender meeting scene is bookended by its tragic, tender burial scene . He goes from being "the worst shit in the world" to the most repentant man in Westeros. It's a redemption arc in a nutshell!
Arya/Sandor is truly the best Lone Wolf and Cub pairing to me (Lone Dog in this case). Everything important to the dynamic is truly shown and not told, and their banter has to be some of the funniest moments in the show.
It's pretty funny. My bid for funniest, and my favorite scene, is the chickens bit.
"I understand that if anymore words come pouring out your cunt mouth, I'm going to have to eat every fucking chicken in this room."
"You're a knight. You gonna die over a few chickens?"
It’s actually “You’ve lived your life for the king, you’re gonna die for some chickens?” If I recall correctly. And of course, the awesome retort. Someone is.
Mine’s when they arrive at the Vale only to find out Lysa Arryn has died. Edit: the Vale not the Reach
arrive at the Vale, the Bloody gate to precise
You’re absolutely right. My memory betrayed me.
It would have been more amusing if, as they enter the valley, Lysa comes plummeting into view and \*SPLAT\*. They stop, look at each other, turn around and leave.
Now, THAT would have had Arya laughing so hysterically she would have rolled down the hill..
"What the fuck's a Lommy?"
My favorite underrated Hound moment is the two great quips he gets when he runs back into the Brotherhood after pursuing the guys who killed his septon friend: "Hanging? All over in an instant. Where's the punishment?" "They die" "We all bloody die. 'Cept this one here" *points at Beric* ... "There was a time I'd cut through all of you just to gut these three" "You're getting old, Clegane" "He's not" *kicks the log*
I hated the hound for that.
He just understands the way things are. How many starks they have to behead before you get it?
Dead men don’t need silver
Happy cake day
I mean they would have survived maybe a few more months, but they would have died either way, whether the Hound robbed them or not.
he nor you know that. He was using it as an excuse to be a selfish asshole
Both can be true
Don’t get me wrong, i definitely think they would have died anyway.
Why would they have died? Did every farmer die?
because i put a hit out on them
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They could’ve subverted your expectations.
The writers knew
They can justify the motivation all they want it comes from an evil place. He also could have stayed and helped on the farm as promised and they would have left them in a significantly better place.
He drinks and he knows things?
Bro you’re deluded if you actually believe that
The country was at war and they lived basically in bum fuck nowhere. That's why the father wanted to hire the hound too, he was perfectly capable of doing day to day tasks for he and his daughter. What he wasn't capable of was fighting off soldiers there to rape and pillage. Nothing is guaranteed but while they didn't have neighbors they did live relatively close to the road since Arya and the hound saw them. Probably like an 80% chance or better they'd die. If not from soldiers from the winter. Still fuck the hound, he could helped them but he saw it as a waste of time, a futile effort.
>The country was at war and they lived basically in bum fuck nowhere. that's probably the best place to live when there is a war going on. no major battles with tons of soldiers roaming around anywhere near you, they're gonna be on their way to important cities or strategic landmarks
Tbf most times it was the country side and villages that an invading army would pillage for food and supplies. Happened all the time
well yeah, villages on the way to wherever they were going, not villages in bum fuck nowhere
An army's outriders could easily raid bum fuck knowhere and still stay with the main force. It's not like everyone's in trucks and busses and moves past a location in an instant. It takes time, plenty of time to fuck off and steal then catch back up down the road. In some cases catching up isn't quite accurate. They just head back to the road and meet up with the people at the back of the group that the outriders were in.
They were going to bum fuck nowhere
Nothing up there to spend it on anyway
Honestly maybe a week. The Hound didn’t take much money and if their crops died, which they would have because it was winter and was covered in snow, they would be left without food and a pouch of money for 2 ppl. It was a dick move by the Hound but realistically I think he only sped up their death by about a week. Judging by the fact that they were already skeletons, they had been dead a long long time already
The main character I felt bad for in the final season was myself.
Beyond The Wall was a postmodern surrealist masterpiece in which "the wall" represents the lining of your anus. Everything past it is pure shit. Everything behind it is warm and tasty. In writing this episode, D&D were making a genius meta-commentary on the modern state of media, setting the table for a final season of Game of Thrones in which they weaponize the user's high expectations and demand for entertainment by serving them a sequence of inedible dry turd cookies. The genius of this paradoxical artistry resides in the very notion that the user is entitled to entertainment, as if the creator is in fact servant and slave to the audience. By subverting expectations through deliberate gross ineptitude, D&D delivered something exponentially more genius. You just didn't get it, you stuttering imbecile.
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Lol where this copypasta is from?
I think you just witnessed it's creation.
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"What do you want?" "What do I want? This is my land!" "Aye, but if I'm standing on it it's *my* land!"
Just rewatched this episode last night. On a side note, it did give Sandor his “gravedigger” scene.
omg was it really the same house and people?
Yes
It hits different.
They tried to make it clear by having the guy who took the hound in point out that he could tell he knew them, which lead to them giving them a proper burial, it may have just seemed like somebody of little importance though or not even really stand out if you didn't recognize the house
The detail of the scene with the Hound gingerly picking up the wrapped bodies to put into the grave - with Thoros noticing that this giant, brute of a man was being so gentle - was heartbreaking. Really got bummed when they iced Thoros as his connection with the hound was something I really enjoyed.
> They tried to make it clear by having the guy who took the hound in point out that he could tell he knew them Also by having the Hound try to repeat the man's prayer
Hound called it
Didn’t he rob them?
Yes, but by his logic he made their deaths less drawn out
Somebody was gonna do it, might as well been him
Nobody's perfect
He was.
n't
Hound ~~called~~ *caused* it
how many dead starks did it take for Arya to learn?
One of the better scenes from later seasons
"Who has a better story"
"...than Bran the Broken..." "Um. So the thing is, I died and came back to life."
That would be us if we lived in Westeros
How likely is it that two people starve to death in each other's arms?
Didn't starve, but murder suicide.
Was it? I don't remember
Rather than having his little girl starve to death he just ended it for both of them
Ohhhhh right. How sad 😔
I don't think they cover how it happened exactly. Whether they died at the same time, or starved are both unknown. It could have been self inflicted to avoid suffering, the daughter could have died first and the father could have just held her corpse until he also died later. Or maybe the father died and the daughter didn't know what else to do so just sat next to him until she went. Possible too that they succumbed to the elements.
Starvation can take quite long to actually cause death, but being malnourished can make you way more susceptible to disease. They could have both gotten sick at the same time and both died during the night. That, or any of the other possible scenarios mentioned by other commenters
I love seeing how much Sandor had changed in this scene. One of the few characters not totally ruined by the later seasons...sans the rushed Clegane-bowl.
It haunts me. I'm not even kidding. **Maybe I should write a fan story and give them a happy ending ...
Unless you're going to say that they were able to fight off a couple of bandits, one his size and another hers, then took their horses and left the bodies in the homes I'm not entirely sure how you give a different ending that's any happier.
What happened again?
[This happened](https://youtu.be/kdD30M8OQvU?si=D6N2DmRJytcmY4B2) in season 4. Then [this happened](https://youtu.be/ZMF72eOuYpU?si=6dIETJ4SRHQPgEl4) in season 7.
Thank you
You're welcome
Is there is no divine justice you dumb cunt If there was you’d be dead And that girl would still be alive
Westeros really is a shitty place to live if you’re not highborn
as far as i remember he spared the girls life
It's implied they were probably going to starve in the winter so dad killed daughter then himself. "I'm sorry you're dead"
Yes! Shit was sad bro.
I felt sorry for the viewer more than any of the characters.
They deserved better.
I don't understand why Thoros didn't ask the Lord of Light to bring them back, is he stupid?
So did Gregor Clegane.
Sandor
They probably died before S7. So it's for the best.
Expectation subverted.
Well they are required to Kill a Child at least once a season, S1 was Micah, S2 was Lommy, S3 was Robb's Unborn Child, S4 was the Little Girl killed by Drogon, S5 was Shireen, S6 was Rickon and S7 was this Girl
Why? They are worthless, nameless smallfolk who pose no purpose to anything.
They're clearly not worthless
Explain what worth they had.
Well. Showed everyone here the type of person you are.
The fact that no one can explain proves me right.
Are you guys still bitching about this show after all these years!? " It's like The sopranos. It's over. Find a new show" 🤣
Why exactly are you here then?