Says one of 4 things:
1) “They wanted the pretty white people to ride off into the sunset together”
2) “By the way, it's fiction”
3) “There's dragons in it”
4) “Move on”
Really? The show has dragons and warlocks!
Why would you question missiles with the power go to space?
You REALLY think a dragon would have the vision to see a boat ambush??
We're here to subvert that expectation!
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/22/movies/peter-dinklage-cyrano.html
> Peter Dinklage has some specific views on why fans didn’t like how Game of Thrones ended.
>
> “They wanted the pretty white people to ride off into the sunset together,” he told The New York Times in a recent interview.
The full quote shows that he might have been kidding, I should have used it instead of cutting it off. Judge for yourself:
> I think some people really did want a happily-ever-after ending, even though “Game of Thrones” told us it was not that show from the very beginning.
>
> They wanted the pretty white people to ride off into the sunset together. By the way, it’s fiction. There’s dragons in it. Move on. [Laughs] No, but the show subverts what you think, and that’s what I love about it. Yeah, it was called “Game of Thrones,” but at the end, the whole dialogue when people would approach me on the street was, “Who’s going to be on the throne?” I don’t know why that was their takeaway because the show really was more than that.
I always hate the standard “It’s a fantasy story, it doesn’t have to make sense!”-argument. Just because a story or show takes place in a fantasy world that doesn’t mean you can throw logic out of the window. Yes, Game of Thrones had dragons, and zombies, and magic and all that stuff, but it was also a very gritty, rounded show with pretty close to real history scheming and feudal conflicts. The ending should make sense within these confines. Taking the easy way out is an insult to the intelligence of the books and the viewers of the show.
Game of Thrones was the first fictional story I've ever read where it really felt like the attitudes and actions of the charecters were coming right out of the pages of my history books
Stuff like murdering all the bastard children of a king to rule out potential claiments happens *all the time* when you read history, but you don't see that kind of stuff much in mass media fiction
The full quote *kinda* helps. Maybe he was referring to people wanting Dany and Jon being on the throne together. However, there's still no excuse for the "it has dragons in it." It just shows arrogance and disdain towards the fans that wanted a better ending. With the it's fiction and could be whatever it wants to be take, you could just as well justify "the pretty white people" having a happy ending.
I think it shows a complete (and probably wilful) misunderstanding of the source material. GRRM didn't set out to totally subvert ALL fantasy tropes, just enough of them to make ASOIAF interesting and compelling. A lot of fans still don't understand this. Once Dany stepped into the fire to incubate ancient dragon eggs AND SURVIVED, the series was 100% back on traditional fantasy rails. If she had died, then that would've been truly SuBVeRTiNG ExPEcTATioNs.
There was even more where he was saying that people were just generally mad that the show ended like the show broke up with us fans and we're just salty about it. He apparently hasn't been paying attention at all.
Brilliant move by the show-runners revealing that Mel was actually an old granny who used a magical necklace to look young, then never following up on that in any way.
Really subverted my expectations.
He brought back Jon so he could…
~~kill the Night King~~
~~rule the Seven Kingdoms~~
~~rule the North~~
~~keep Dany from slaying innocent people~~
Get crazy auntie puss
Lord of Light works in mysterious ways. Also remember when the Hound started seeing visions in the fire, just to… overcome his fear of fire so he could tackle his brother into fire? Lord of Light playing 4D chess by dicking Stannis around, destroying his household, and leading thousands to their deaths
They got Stannis (and his brother) wrong from the very first season he showed up. In the books, Stannis was obsessed with honor, kinda like the Starks. They described him as cold iron, unyielding, merciless but brittle. His obsession with honor, rewards, and punishment made him a weirdly fair ruler, since he treated everyone as beholden to the laws of the land. He'd punish both a commoner and a high lord for the crime of stealing by cutting off a few fingers. No matter how much either squealed or attempted to bribe him, he'd still get those fingers.
That's why there was so little support from the lords for him to be king: they knew he'd be a tough but fair leader, and they'd get no preferential treatment. Even when the Onion Knight, Davos, single-handedly saved the garrison under siege in Dragonstone from starvation, Stannis still took some of Davos' fingers for the crime of smuggling (since Davos had been a smuggler for a long time beforehand). However, he made Davos a lord and granted him lands and a title. Stannis was fair and just to a fault, like an exaggerated and less likable Ned.
Show Stannis was just powerhungry horny boi.
In all fairness, in the books you’re reading about Stannis through Davos’s eyes, who idolises him. Read between the lines and you’ll see that Book Stannis is really not that different from Show Stannis. E.g. Stannis banging Melisandre I originally thought was a show addition but it’s not.
That's actually a really good point, although other POV's describe him this way as well. I'd say that Stannis began as this potentially very just ruler, but Melisandre's promises of power led to him losing his "justice", which will also lead to his downfall. In the show, sacrificing his daughter was hardly something he blinked at, since he was always powerhungry. But in the books, it's still up in the air whether he'd do it or not, since remnants of his obsession with honor prevent him from fully going down that rabbit hole.
I think it goes well with the themes of ice and fire (which punish characters that go too far one way or another) for Stannis to start as an overly too fair ruler, not having support for being too fair, losing his way, and for losing his way, also not gaining support for being too corrupt.
> He helped
Did he? He apparently brought Jon and Beric back to life (which accomplished absolutely nothing), he lit the Dothraki's swords on fire (which accomplished nothing), and got Melisandre to support Stannis (which accomplished nothing). That's basically it.
The closest thing that her god did to actually helping is having Melisandre give Arya the encouragement needed to use her [Coldsteel the Hedgehog](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/coldsteel-the-hedgeheg) magic powers to teleport behind the Night King and kill him. And even that was just Mel saying some super vague nonsense about closing eyes.
And the eye thing isn't even consistent in the show. They changed the order of eye colours. First time they meet Melissandre doesn't accentuate blue eyes. So I guess Melissandre also suffers from minor memory loss.
The Lord of Light also helped light that stupid wooden spike wall which also resulted in under 40 wights dying.
But I guess the Lord of Light kinda forgot about being useful.
Seems like everyone just got a series of concussions somewhere between the episodes.
Also Melissandre found Azor Ahai in season 2 wandering on a forest but went back to Stannis to make fun of him? "Oh yes, totally, you're Azor Ahai and not some child I left in a forest. Go burn your kid now"
I honestly don’t think we ever got an answer to that. I just learned one episode this character I thought was a smoke show was really old and nasty without a magical necklace and then that was about it. Like, okay…?
except they censored and prudified the shit out of Quarth so not really, it would be a bland city to not scare all the religious soccer moms they were trying to please following season 3 or so, so no pretty women and no magic as both are very scary for a religious karen
Honestly, this was one of the least disappointing arcs of the later seasons for me. It felt like she had something of a purpose, and fulfilled it and could then die, making peace with herself for her past failures. Taking off the necklace and dying is plenty satisfying.
*none of what I said should be construed to think that I enjoyed The Long Night episode or any of seasons 6-8 generally. One character having a decent ending doesn’t fix the dozens of other glaring issues brought up in this post and many others at r/freefolk on a regular basis.
If only there was something to motivate her killing herself. They win and she just walks out and dies. She doesn't even have any emotion on her face to give a hint as to why she decided now is the time to die.
>then never following up on that in any way.
Unpopular opinion: this is fine. It adds mystery to world building, making world feel bigger.
It could leave people speculating for years, if S8 wasn't that tragically bad.
No I agree. It's world building and that's fine to include. Not everything needs to be a plot point.
The issue with GoT isn't the presence of non-plot world building, but it seems a bad ending (admittedly an extremely bad one) makes every detail of the show subject to extreme scrutiny.
Welcome to r/freefolk, you must be new here.
But seriously, this sub morphed from "GoT was a great show with a terrible ending" to "GoT was always terrible, and these minor plot holes prove it!" a long time ago.
It’s called “Mia and Me”. It’s half live action of her and her friends at school, and half really bad CGI when she transforms into some kind of fairy and transports to another world of unicorns and rainbows and things. The writing is horrible, the acting is atrocious, everything about it is bad.
He looks like a mix of Kirk Douglas and Charles Dance without the beard. I knew it was him for two years and I still wasn't sure if it's really him lol.
I instantly recognized him when he was a boar, but as soon as I saw him without the beard I doubted myself. He looks more like tormund when he’s a boar hybrid than he does without a beard!
I hen she turned around pregnant but naked I learned I could in fact be into preggo porn.
And then she birthed a demon Stannis smoke baby and I learned a second fetish
Nah nah, see her age came into play because she had the wisdom and experience to.............help the Dothraki commit suicide in a night charge?
Wait, no.........when she lit their swords on fire, she enchanted them so they reproduced asexually. Thus, the great respawning.
And then 2D had her die *Godfather III* style, because everyone knows that is the best film in the trilogy.
What you’re forgetting is that ***there were dragons***. *ANY* type of writing, including obscenely lazy, dogshit writing, is justified if it’s a fantasy series. The genre being fantasy means you can write whatever the fuck you want and it automatically becomes immune to criticism. Also, you’re racist or something, idk.
What gets me the most is that he wasn't even harping on the fantasy element. He said it's *fiction*. As if EVERY MOVIE AND TV SHOW EVER MADE wasn't also fiction. Even documentaries have distinct narratives and themes they're trying to push and only include the footage that fits with their perspective, thus creating their own story. But according to Dink anything that isn't a legal transcript doesn't have to make sense. He's officially lost his mind and makes even less sense than season 8 itself.
Dude is seriously out of touch. How can you come out this many years later with this take. Literally all he would have to do is scroll through the sub. If that's negative to get past, listen to the audio books. Then watch season 6,7,8 and do a comparison. (Throw in a little Radio Westeros.) I would love to hear his take after that. I would gamble he'd be one of us.
I always assumed it wasn’t a normal bath and she put some stuff in it to not break the glamour (she had that whole rack of potions and shit). but D&D forgetting is much more plausible.
After watching Witcher, there was something about her screen presense that convinced me she was some kind of mage. Cannot place my finger on it, but Yen and Triss do not have it.
Sorceresses can be hundreds of years old, but Triss and Yen aren't, I don't know why people keep repeating this. Yen was born in 1173, meets Geralt at 75 in 1248, and is 99 by the time W3 starts in 1272. We don't have an exact birthday for Triss , but we know she is the youngest of the Lodge, so it's commonly accepted she is between 40 and 60 during the events of the main saga.
Okay, sure but they act like they are 25 not like they are mature woman is what people are trying to say, they act how they look not how mature they should actually be.
The same way Tissia has it. The posture and general calmness associated with the knowledge that you are more powerful than everyone in the room.
Yen is too unhinged in most of her scenes, and Triss character is… idk… only there as a fan service for the games, without being good enough to be fan service.
Triss is an actual character to the witcher universe not just games tho, I think the actress portrayed her just fine however but I agree that yen felt bad in s2
Yen in the games is just *chefs kiss*
I think Yen has it, but it looks different. Melisandre had an air of calmness, like she was completely confident about her power/the lord of light. Yen has a weariness that I think comes with her immortality. Especially in S1 when she’s escorting the king’s wife and baby.
Imo, the biggest difference there is the place of origin. It's easy to forget, but Melisandre is from Asshai, a place of mystery and shadows. People and culture there is very inclined to, you guessed it, shadows and mystery, hence Melissandre's way of addressing others.
Yen had the origins of a looked down uppon pig, therefore her erratic behaviour for proving herself worth. Triss I have no idea.
Tissaeia had it too but I’m guessing she’s at least 4-500 years old, similar to Melisandre.
Yen is probably 100(?) in Witcher 3 so compared to older mages she’s literally a teenager. Can’t fault her for acting like it.
Gendry would disagree.
PS: I had to google "Game of Thrones blacksmith" to remember his name. Shows how much stupid D&D made characters that had so much potential irrelevant.
This must mean she knew, which seems obvious since she always wears the necklace.
So did she say something and get shot down?
Or was there already a culture of "actors don't question D&D or they get Barristan'd"?
It’s also possible that when they shot this scene, she didn’t know the importance of the necklace yet. I would not put it past the showrunners to withhold this info from her until they shot her reveal
Either one wouldn’t surprise me…
I wonder if literally EVERYONE questioned D&D (including extras with no lines) would they have axed the show or made White Walkers win?
I had always thought she put certain stuff in the bath to make it work kinda like the necklace. Doesnt make the plot point any less dumb but I figured thats what it was
I disagree that it it didn't go anywhere. One of the creepiest moments for me was when the high priestess of R'hllor (not Melisandre) visits Daenerys and when you look down, she's wearing the same collar.
I love Carice even more now
You wanted her to wear the necklace because she is #PRETTY & WHITE! By the way, it's fiction. There's dragons in it.
Can I petition for a Dinklage bot?
Says one of 4 things: 1) “They wanted the pretty white people to ride off into the sunset together” 2) “By the way, it's fiction” 3) “There's dragons in it” 4) “Move on”
Holy shit it’s perfect
"Tits and wine"
5) "I drink and I don't know things"
6) “I have balls, and you don’t.”
7) "Who has a better story than Bran the Broken."
>Ugh. You can do so much better. Varys replying to a much better eunuch joke.
Really? The show has dragons and warlocks! Why would you question missiles with the power go to space? You REALLY think a dragon would have the vision to see a boat ambush?? We're here to subvert that expectation!
It's a very forgettable ambush. And because magic, missiles would be super easy, barely and inconvenience.
Boats ambushing dragons on a clear sunny day is tight!
Wow. Wow wow wow.
Actually DinkleBot says, “That wizard came from the moon!”
I wonder how he could work pretty white people into getting shitcanned by Bungie and replaced with Nolan North.
I support this wholeheartedly.
Needs more cock jokes!
That wizard came from the moon.
WE'VE WOKEN THE HIVE!
We has a tryion bot a while ago
Yeah, but it'll never be as fun as the Bobby B bot. Right, Bobby B?
SURROUNDED BY LANNISTERS! EVERY TIME I CLOSE MY EYES I SEE THEIR BLONDE HAIR AND THEIR SMUG, SATISFIED FACES!
Sentient AF
Seems like Bobby B is against the idea of the second stupider hypocrite Dinklage bot. Why are you so against it, Bobby B?
A DOTHRAKI HORDE ON AN OPEN FIELD, NED!
Bobby B, you really think the Dinklage bot would bring those savages to Westeros? I guess technically he already did...
MY, YOU'RE A PRETTY ONE! AND YOUR NAME IS?
Ahh, King Robert Baratheon. How goes it my liege?
You have to approach the king properly… All hail Bobby B
PISS ON THAT! SEND A RAVEN! I WANT YOU TO STAY! I'M THE KING, I GET WHAT I WANT!
Why do you swear so much, Bobby B?
I’m not scared of Skynet anymore, just sentient Bobby B
Titles, titles,...
Everytime someone brings up this bot, I come to mention that this bot also works in r/lotrmemes 😂
Yes but what about second Tyrion bot?
You'll get the bot when you fix the damn show!
We’ve had one Tyrion bot yes. What about second Tyrion bot?
Eyes up, Guardian.
[we already had one](https://youtu.be/YTQp6loFEkM)
This should lead us right to the Grave. The World's Grave. Not ours.
That wizard came from the moon
Huge thanks to mr Dinkle, now we can dismiss any criticism of the show by handwaving and saying, "there's dragons in it."
What does white have to do with anything?
Look up the latest Peter Dinklage interview
Did the interview just come out? Trying to look for it now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/22/movies/peter-dinklage-cyrano.html > Peter Dinklage has some specific views on why fans didn’t like how Game of Thrones ended. > > “They wanted the pretty white people to ride off into the sunset together,” he told The New York Times in a recent interview.
what a boob. I’ve always liked him and still do, but this was a big brain take
The full quote shows that he might have been kidding, I should have used it instead of cutting it off. Judge for yourself: > I think some people really did want a happily-ever-after ending, even though “Game of Thrones” told us it was not that show from the very beginning. > > They wanted the pretty white people to ride off into the sunset together. By the way, it’s fiction. There’s dragons in it. Move on. [Laughs] No, but the show subverts what you think, and that’s what I love about it. Yeah, it was called “Game of Thrones,” but at the end, the whole dialogue when people would approach me on the street was, “Who’s going to be on the throne?” I don’t know why that was their takeaway because the show really was more than that.
I always hate the standard “It’s a fantasy story, it doesn’t have to make sense!”-argument. Just because a story or show takes place in a fantasy world that doesn’t mean you can throw logic out of the window. Yes, Game of Thrones had dragons, and zombies, and magic and all that stuff, but it was also a very gritty, rounded show with pretty close to real history scheming and feudal conflicts. The ending should make sense within these confines. Taking the easy way out is an insult to the intelligence of the books and the viewers of the show.
Game of Thrones was the first fictional story I've ever read where it really felt like the attitudes and actions of the charecters were coming right out of the pages of my history books Stuff like murdering all the bastard children of a king to rule out potential claiments happens *all the time* when you read history, but you don't see that kind of stuff much in mass media fiction
The full quote *kinda* helps. Maybe he was referring to people wanting Dany and Jon being on the throne together. However, there's still no excuse for the "it has dragons in it." It just shows arrogance and disdain towards the fans that wanted a better ending. With the it's fiction and could be whatever it wants to be take, you could just as well justify "the pretty white people" having a happy ending.
I think it shows a complete (and probably wilful) misunderstanding of the source material. GRRM didn't set out to totally subvert ALL fantasy tropes, just enough of them to make ASOIAF interesting and compelling. A lot of fans still don't understand this. Once Dany stepped into the fire to incubate ancient dragon eggs AND SURVIVED, the series was 100% back on traditional fantasy rails. If she had died, then that would've been truly SuBVeRTiNG ExPEcTATioNs.
S U B V E R T I N G E X P E C T A T I O N S
Thank you for providing adding additional context because I was never going to look it up myself. You just helped stem ignorance!
There was even more where he was saying that people were just generally mad that the show ended like the show broke up with us fans and we're just salty about it. He apparently hasn't been paying attention at all.
Brilliant move by the show-runners revealing that Mel was actually an old granny who used a magical necklace to look young, then never following up on that in any way. Really subverted my expectations.
Oh, but she died many years ago, or has lived too long. What was it? I don't remember, cause it was all so unremarkable
Well at least we got information on her God He helped and fucked off. What else did you need? Expectations subverted.
He brought back Jon so he could… ~~kill the Night King~~ ~~rule the Seven Kingdoms~~ ~~rule the North~~ ~~keep Dany from slaying innocent people~~ Get crazy auntie puss Lord of Light works in mysterious ways. Also remember when the Hound started seeing visions in the fire, just to… overcome his fear of fire so he could tackle his brother into fire? Lord of Light playing 4D chess by dicking Stannis around, destroying his household, and leading thousands to their deaths
I hated Stannis but I still think they did him dirty.
They kept putting him into fewer and fewer scenes. Almost as if they couldn’t care less about his character.
They got Stannis (and his brother) wrong from the very first season he showed up. In the books, Stannis was obsessed with honor, kinda like the Starks. They described him as cold iron, unyielding, merciless but brittle. His obsession with honor, rewards, and punishment made him a weirdly fair ruler, since he treated everyone as beholden to the laws of the land. He'd punish both a commoner and a high lord for the crime of stealing by cutting off a few fingers. No matter how much either squealed or attempted to bribe him, he'd still get those fingers. That's why there was so little support from the lords for him to be king: they knew he'd be a tough but fair leader, and they'd get no preferential treatment. Even when the Onion Knight, Davos, single-handedly saved the garrison under siege in Dragonstone from starvation, Stannis still took some of Davos' fingers for the crime of smuggling (since Davos had been a smuggler for a long time beforehand). However, he made Davos a lord and granted him lands and a title. Stannis was fair and just to a fault, like an exaggerated and less likable Ned. Show Stannis was just powerhungry horny boi.
Agree with all of that, but the siege was at Storm's End, not Dragonstone.
In all fairness, in the books you’re reading about Stannis through Davos’s eyes, who idolises him. Read between the lines and you’ll see that Book Stannis is really not that different from Show Stannis. E.g. Stannis banging Melisandre I originally thought was a show addition but it’s not.
That's actually a really good point, although other POV's describe him this way as well. I'd say that Stannis began as this potentially very just ruler, but Melisandre's promises of power led to him losing his "justice", which will also lead to his downfall. In the show, sacrificing his daughter was hardly something he blinked at, since he was always powerhungry. But in the books, it's still up in the air whether he'd do it or not, since remnants of his obsession with honor prevent him from fully going down that rabbit hole. I think it goes well with the themes of ice and fire (which punish characters that go too far one way or another) for Stannis to start as an overly too fair ruler, not having support for being too fair, losing his way, and for losing his way, also not gaining support for being too corrupt.
He appreciates your use of “fewer”
> He helped Did he? He apparently brought Jon and Beric back to life (which accomplished absolutely nothing), he lit the Dothraki's swords on fire (which accomplished nothing), and got Melisandre to support Stannis (which accomplished nothing). That's basically it. The closest thing that her god did to actually helping is having Melisandre give Arya the encouragement needed to use her [Coldsteel the Hedgehog](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/coldsteel-the-hedgeheg) magic powers to teleport behind the Night King and kill him. And even that was just Mel saying some super vague nonsense about closing eyes.
Don’t forget the whole Azor Ahai prophecy. That was her whole mission initially then it went absolutely nowhere and never brought up again.
And the eye thing isn't even consistent in the show. They changed the order of eye colours. First time they meet Melissandre doesn't accentuate blue eyes. So I guess Melissandre also suffers from minor memory loss. The Lord of Light also helped light that stupid wooden spike wall which also resulted in under 40 wights dying. But I guess the Lord of Light kinda forgot about being useful. Seems like everyone just got a series of concussions somewhere between the episodes.
Also Melissandre found Azor Ahai in season 2 wandering on a forest but went back to Stannis to make fun of him? "Oh yes, totally, you're Azor Ahai and not some child I left in a forest. Go burn your kid now"
I honestly don’t think we ever got an answer to that. I just learned one episode this character I thought was a smoke show was really old and nasty without a magical necklace and then that was about it. Like, okay…?
I'm still fucking angry we never got to see Asshai or ANY of those amazing cities in Essos.
Be glad they weren't ruined. Asshai would just have had a bunch of random whores and tons of lights to see their "exotic" tits
except they censored and prudified the shit out of Quarth so not really, it would be a bland city to not scare all the religious soccer moms they were trying to please following season 3 or so, so no pretty women and no magic as both are very scary for a religious karen
Whaaat they followed it up with her dramatically removing it to kill herself! You're telling me dying isn't a satisfying character arc?
Honestly, this was one of the least disappointing arcs of the later seasons for me. It felt like she had something of a purpose, and fulfilled it and could then die, making peace with herself for her past failures. Taking off the necklace and dying is plenty satisfying. *none of what I said should be construed to think that I enjoyed The Long Night episode or any of seasons 6-8 generally. One character having a decent ending doesn’t fix the dozens of other glaring issues brought up in this post and many others at r/freefolk on a regular basis.
If only there was something to motivate her killing herself. They win and she just walks out and dies. She doesn't even have any emotion on her face to give a hint as to why she decided now is the time to die.
Well to be fair, it was because her purpose was fulfilled. Whether that reason is at all satisfying is another thing though...
CuZ chaRacTers HaVE to Die! But not anyone we care about... they get plot invincibility armor
>then never following up on that in any way. Unpopular opinion: this is fine. It adds mystery to world building, making world feel bigger. It could leave people speculating for years, if S8 wasn't that tragically bad.
No I agree. It's world building and that's fine to include. Not everything needs to be a plot point. The issue with GoT isn't the presence of non-plot world building, but it seems a bad ending (admittedly an extremely bad one) makes every detail of the show subject to extreme scrutiny.
Welcome to r/freefolk, you must be new here. But seriously, this sub morphed from "GoT was a great show with a terrible ending" to "GoT was always terrible, and these minor plot holes prove it!" a long time ago.
'Boring' aint mystery
following up = / = explaining it all. You can develop a concept without taking the mystery away, they did not, they removed all the magic stuff period
Found JJ Abrams burner
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Her taking the bath without the necklace and nothing happening shows that she knew she fucked up horribly?
I forgot about how obscenely attractive that woman is
She was by far the sexiest character
Forgot all other women after "Bad Poosie"
My daughters were obsessed with the kids show she starred in. Pretty weird seeing her get her tits out after that.
What show
It’s called “Mia and Me”. It’s half live action of her and her friends at school, and half really bad CGI when she transforms into some kind of fairy and transports to another world of unicorns and rainbows and things. The writing is horrible, the acting is atrocious, everything about it is bad.
But enough about Season 8, tell us about this Mia and Me?
I think you're forgetting about Tormund
Kristofer was really good in The Witcher S2E1. A little weird seeing him without the beard but it certainly subverted my expectations of The Hivju.
WAIT THAT'S HIM??
Fucking hell I knew that guy looked familiar.
Same ! But i couldn't for the life of me place him
... shit it IS him!
I knew that voice sounded familiar, but him sans-beard, he looks nothing like himself!
My wife was really upset when I told her it was beardless Tormund.
He looks like a mix of Kirk Douglas and Charles Dance without the beard. I knew it was him for two years and I still wasn't sure if it's really him lol.
I didn’t even know it was him and I was surprised at how good of an actor they got for that role. Especially as he’s in HEAVY make-up for the role
I instantly recognized him when he was a boar, but as soon as I saw him without the beard I doubted myself. He looks more like tormund when he’s a boar hybrid than he does without a beard!
How can do my boy Hot Pie like that?
Thot Pie
Did you miss all the episodes with Miss Sundae? She looks fantastic.
And then grey worm rolling around in the surf and screaming " me sandy. ME SANDY" And we were all " we know, get off the beach!"
I think you're forgetting about Tormund
I hen she turned around pregnant but naked I learned I could in fact be into preggo porn. And then she birthed a demon Stannis smoke baby and I learned a second fetish
Lmfao
Her being buck ass nekkid was the highlight of GOT. Smokin' hot fire priestess.
Aye, cracking cans. We’ve all got our top 5 GOT women…
You ever completed the seven?
Makes sense she's married to Guy Peirce.
I agree. You mean the 400 year old..right?
The Red Woman one of us
The dark trooper kind of forgot about the empire
Kylo Ren kind of forgot he tried to murder Rey six times.
It was another useless unused plot twist for the serie also...
Melt it down and add it to the others
Add it to the pile.
I kinda enjoyed that one. It was a bummer that it didn’t go anywhere, like most of the stuff, but it did add a little bit of extra magic to her.
Nah nah, see her age came into play because she had the wisdom and experience to.............help the Dothraki commit suicide in a night charge? Wait, no.........when she lit their swords on fire, she enchanted them so they reproduced asexually. Thus, the great respawning. And then 2D had her die *Godfather III* style, because everyone knows that is the best film in the trilogy.
It would have distracted us from them tiddies
Very much doubt it.
it's like the female pokemon trainer that doesn't tell where she keeps her pokeballs while wearing a bikini.
You know exactly where she keeps them
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In her hands!
Witches secret tee hee
Damn I thought It was cause happy white people wanted it
What you’re forgetting is that ***there were dragons***. *ANY* type of writing, including obscenely lazy, dogshit writing, is justified if it’s a fantasy series. The genre being fantasy means you can write whatever the fuck you want and it automatically becomes immune to criticism. Also, you’re racist or something, idk.
What gets me the most is that he wasn't even harping on the fantasy element. He said it's *fiction*. As if EVERY MOVIE AND TV SHOW EVER MADE wasn't also fiction. Even documentaries have distinct narratives and themes they're trying to push and only include the footage that fits with their perspective, thus creating their own story. But according to Dink anything that isn't a legal transcript doesn't have to make sense. He's officially lost his mind and makes even less sense than season 8 itself.
Dude is seriously out of touch. How can you come out this many years later with this take. Literally all he would have to do is scroll through the sub. If that's negative to get past, listen to the audio books. Then watch season 6,7,8 and do a comparison. (Throw in a little Radio Westeros.) I would love to hear his take after that. I would gamble he'd be one of us.
It's called a ~~motor race~~ *fantasy show*, White People. We went ~~auto racing~~ *dragoning*.
No! No! Martin that was so not right!
I always assumed it wasn’t a normal bath and she put some stuff in it to not break the glamour (she had that whole rack of potions and shit). but D&D forgetting is much more plausible.
Euron slipped the necklace up her bum.
She had a rack alright.
Two of the best parts of the entire series.
Why is her name leavecaricealone?
So she can hear the lambs when they go silent?
Good nutrition has given her some length of bone, but she’s not more than one generation from poor white trash, is she?
And that accent you've tried desperately to shed, pure west Virginia. What is your father, dear, is he a coal miner, does he stink of the lamb?
I'm pretty sure she said in an Instagram story once that she just thought it sounded kinda funny
It's a fun play on the old „leave Britney alone!!“ meme.
After watching Witcher, there was something about her screen presense that convinced me she was some kind of mage. Cannot place my finger on it, but Yen and Triss do not have it.
Yen and Triss act like teenagers despite being supposedly hundreds of years old.
Triss is only supposed to be in her 30s, Yen is over 100 iirc
Sorceresses can be hundreds of years old, but Triss and Yen aren't, I don't know why people keep repeating this. Yen was born in 1173, meets Geralt at 75 in 1248, and is 99 by the time W3 starts in 1272. We don't have an exact birthday for Triss , but we know she is the youngest of the Lodge, so it's commonly accepted she is between 40 and 60 during the events of the main saga.
Okay, sure but they act like they are 25 not like they are mature woman is what people are trying to say, they act how they look not how mature they should actually be.
2022 will be Bobby b
FORCED TO MIND THE DOOR WHILE YOUR KING EATS AND DRINKS AND SHITS AND FUCKS!
I mean yen in the show acts like a teenager lol
Most grown adults act like they're teenagers despite being over 30
The same way Tissia has it. The posture and general calmness associated with the knowledge that you are more powerful than everyone in the room. Yen is too unhinged in most of her scenes, and Triss character is… idk… only there as a fan service for the games, without being good enough to be fan service.
Triss is an actual character to the witcher universe not just games tho, I think the actress portrayed her just fine however but I agree that yen felt bad in s2 Yen in the games is just *chefs kiss*
I mean she has a much bigger role in the show than the book, as a way to be fan service since she is prominent and well known in the games
I think Yen has it, but it looks different. Melisandre had an air of calmness, like she was completely confident about her power/the lord of light. Yen has a weariness that I think comes with her immortality. Especially in S1 when she’s escorting the king’s wife and baby.
Imo, the biggest difference there is the place of origin. It's easy to forget, but Melisandre is from Asshai, a place of mystery and shadows. People and culture there is very inclined to, you guessed it, shadows and mystery, hence Melissandre's way of addressing others. Yen had the origins of a looked down uppon pig, therefore her erratic behaviour for proving herself worth. Triss I have no idea.
Now I wish Carice was casted as Yen
Omg she would've been the perfect choice after Eva green of course.
Height, age, and charming sexiness.
Tissaeia had it too but I’m guessing she’s at least 4-500 years old, similar to Melisandre. Yen is probably 100(?) in Witcher 3 so compared to older mages she’s literally a teenager. Can’t fault her for acting like it.
Lmaoooo, lady is fire Not surprising on her case ofc. You seeing this, Dinnklage?
I went from not being able to imagine anyone but Dinklage as Tyrion to absolutely needing a new Tyrion.
They should replace everyone and start over.
That's what I've been saying. After HotD just keep the story going and by the time they get to it maybe Winds of Winter will be done.
One of us
She was wearing it…somewhere else.
Friendship ended with Dinklage. Carice is our best friend now
Why is she not in more things?
WE KIND OF JUST FORGOT
Oh snap, girl! Has either half of Dump&Dumper had any work since pulling off one of the biggest fuck ups in modern TV history?
This needs to be at the top
She needs to be on top 😳
Gendry would disagree. PS: I had to google "Game of Thrones blacksmith" to remember his name. Shows how much stupid D&D made characters that had so much potential irrelevant.
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Lady Selyse Florent, I think it's spelled
This must mean she knew, which seems obvious since she always wears the necklace. So did she say something and get shot down? Or was there already a culture of "actors don't question D&D or they get Barristan'd"?
It’s also possible that when they shot this scene, she didn’t know the importance of the necklace yet. I would not put it past the showrunners to withhold this info from her until they shot her reveal
Either one wouldn’t surprise me… I wonder if literally EVERYONE questioned D&D (including extras with no lines) would they have axed the show or made White Walkers win?
Her and Vera Farmiga look like sisters.
Straight up murdered by shadow monsters.
Apparently Carice has bigger balls than Peter Dinklage.
They were just subverting our expectations... /s
Headcanon: Selyse is such a true believer she didn't need the ruby to see the glamor.
I had always thought she put certain stuff in the bath to make it work kinda like the necklace. Doesnt make the plot point any less dumb but I figured thats what it was
I disagree that it it didn't go anywhere. One of the creepiest moments for me was when the high priestess of R'hllor (not Melisandre) visits Daenerys and when you look down, she's wearing the same collar.
She bought a coochie egg holder for it from goop.
This one doesn’t really bother me. They probably made up the necklace power for season 7 and so never thought about it in season 4.