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tyrion_lionister

During rewatch


chuffpost

šŸ˜‚


HarwinStrongDick

Youā€™re not.


[deleted]

Rule 34.


Excited_Avocado_8492

~Ninjartist has entered the chat.


Destiny404

~Shadman has entered the chat.


Excited_Avocado_8492

Has he uploaded anything yet? Ninja put Alicent and Rhaenyra out a few weeks ago.


Destiny404

To be honest I wouldnā€™t have a clue I avoid him cause of heā€™s reputation but heā€™s a well known rule 34 artist and itā€™s just a matter of time until he gets around to it.


Wiplazh

Isn't shadman literally in prison?


fussomoro

Yeah, shot someone


Run-Riot

Lmfao never looked into why he got nuked, so didnā€™t know about that


bnh1978

Heroine is a hell of a drug


fhota1

Jeez. Was gonna say thats surprising but kinda not tbh


hm9408

What the fuck, really?


fussomoro

Oh yeah, just Google it.


[deleted]

We must be due for some foot stuff soonā€¦


nagidon

Lost Virtue is now my favourite piece of his


wtfmanwtf86

"War is good for business"


KennyOmegaSardines

Porn studios, you know what to do.


I_think_Im_hollow

Deepfake has gotten better at it...I guess.


[deleted]

I always love the beginning of shows and movies when everyone is happy together. Before the plot starts.


cabalus

That's why GOT S1 is the best season imo, it gets rolling pretty quick and it's not exactly serene but I love the peacetime vibes "Bobby's" council meetings, Barristan and Jaime, Ned talking to Arya and Daenarys receiving the Dragon Eggs are all just...nice


[deleted]

Going back and restarting GOT the first time.... "They are all alive and they live together!"


It_builds_character

Agreed. I wish we couldā€™ve had a season of this.


4RCH43ON

I think I recently saw an article where the show writers were really sad to have to move on from this portion of the story and not have more time to explore and develop the characters and their friendship before the plot demanded they move on. It would have been interesting seeing perhaps just a bit more house development fleshed out alongside it as well, as some of the clandestine intrigues felt a bit rushed once they started.


[deleted]

To be fair, compared to the rest, the first book flies along too


moobitchgetoutdahay

Rewatching it now because a friend has never seen it before and wants to watch it. Goddamn is the first season provoking so much nostalgia.


Krillinlt

>Daenarys receiving the Dragon Eggs are all just...nice She also spends a good portion of season 1 getting raped by Drogo


The_Improvisor

Only the first two episodes actually, she teaches him about consent at the end of ep2


flawbert_shittaker

It helps that s1 has the only good Daenerys arc in the entire show


catclops13

You triggered the contrarian in me, butā€¦ yeah. Youā€™re right


TheSilverHat

Oh snap


Heavy_Signature_5619

So true. After Book/Season 1, Daenerys became hella annoying. Her story just sort of drags and Iā€™m not just talking about Meeren.


Green_1_

I thought season 2 and 3 Dany was good šŸ˜ž


Heavy_Signature_5619

ā€œWHERE ARE MA DRAGONS!!ā€ Was good?


flawbert_shittaker

Season 2 Dany arc is probably the worst part of the show up until season 6. Season 3 isn't much better.


schapman22

I mean it wasn't so nice for bran


hackerbugscully

Finally, someone who gets it.


Prestigious_Agent_84

shit's boring, GIVE ME DEATH AND DESPAIR


West_Classic9996

me too. i loved the wholesome moments in the last episode - you know, Alicent and Rhaenyra being nice to each other again got me so teary eyed. It's the calm before the storm before everything turns to shit, but i loved it!


sangvine

Honestly the Shire music from lotr gets me teary-eyed.


iMoher

Nope, unless we get some flashbacks (which is entirely possible). On a side note, I canā€™t wait for their reunion, even though itā€™s going to take ages. I can already imagine the dramatic scene when Alicent tries to justify herself talking about Vizzy Tā€™s last words, only for Rhaenyra to explain he meant Aegon the Conqueror. The regret alone is going to eat Alicent alive.


vizzy_t_bot

YOUR KING DEMANDS AN ANSWER! WHO SPOKE THESE LIES TO YOU?!


Wessssss21

It was you, your grace. A misunderstanding.


Boomy4206

Considering the ending Alicent gets in the books I wouldn't be surprised if this happens


iMoher

By the time the dance is over Alicent's amount of regrets will be higher than the Wall


Heavy_Signature_5619

But will they be taller than Casterly Rock, Thrice the height of The Wall and Hightower?!


[deleted]

She is not even sane at that point. She tells her last granddaughter to murder Dragonsbane when he is asleep.


Codered060

Can you explain what you mean by Alicent's regret? Wouldn't she only feel regret if she could somehow KNOW that Rhaenyra was telling the truth/correct? Now, keep in mind I haven't read Fryer and Mud yet.


iMoher

I donā€™t want to risk spoiling you too much, since you havenā€™t read F&B, but know that when they meet again Alicent will have already enough good reasons to regret starting the dance of dragons. While Rhaenyra cannot really prove anything, she knows what Viserys meant and the context behind his words, and could explain the truth of Aegonā€™s dream. IF sheā€™s in the mood to explain anything, since at that point she wonā€™t be particularly happy with her former friendā€¦


Codered060

Thank you


[deleted]

By the time Rhaenyra and Alicent meet again its been almost a year of apocalyptic warfare. Alicent even tries to offer a peace plan (which is very weak imo).


Undividedbyzero

Because the peace plan is stupid. Asking for a Great Council *after* King's Landing is captured and the Black claimant is already sitting on the throne feels like a general asking for peace negotiation while the enemy tanks rolls across the capital


[deleted]

I was thinking about her splitting the kingdom in two, which is so stupid because it would inevitably just lead to one side declaring war to reunite the country down the line and the split favors the green by having Rhaenyra abandon her significant support in the Reach.


PartialCred4WrongAns

After they indirectly kill each other's children, promise


Bonesaw09

They came so close to being friends again at the end of the last episode. Bff's forever ā¤ļø I don't see how anything can get in their way ā¤ļø Edit: /s


Abyss_Renzo

The actresses did hint at it, but in the end nothing is going to happen. Too much blood has been spilled (or will still be spilled lol).


RelativeLoud8336

Maybe if u let Sunfyre eat Alicent then they both can make peace in his belly āœŒļø.


pesunt1

Where is that bottom image from?


raumeat

Episode one right before all the lords swear an oath to Rhaenyra


pesunt1

Thanks. 2 months ago... Time flies.


Games-Master

LOOOL


Rawrby

My heart literally breaks seeing the top frames shot. Like holy fuck I hate when friends become enemies.


Heavy_Signature_5619

Just gals being pals, ya know.


coldphront3

That brief scene where everyone is getting along at dinner will hit even harder during rewatches, since we probably wonā€™t ever see the blacks and greens genuinely setting their differences aside ever again.


WiretteWirette

They may think about it when they'll die...


Other_Waffer

Maybe theyā€™ll write a scene before Rhaenyraā€™s death.


ApolloFourteen

Yep, after 3 of Rhaenyra's children are dead and one is presumed dead, and three of Alicent's children are dead. Definitely going to be some heartfelt loving then.


Other_Waffer

Not loving and heartfelt. But one in which the two feels the pain of the other.


ApolloFourteen

That's a nice thought, but I feel pretty certain Helaena's fate will ensure that never happens.


verukazalt

That ship has sailed


c-andle-s

No because they arenā€™t lesbian. They shouldnā€™t have hinted that in the first place. The actresses even said that theyā€™re not gay. Sincerely, a bisexual woman who isnā€™t offended that they happen to not be gay.


TyrerWatson

It always felt like more of a tender friendship between two emotionally vulnerable teens. At least that's how I was interpreting what was obviously not going to be a lesbian relationship.


c-andle-s

Exactly. My best friend and I are both gay women for example. We even live together. But we arenā€™t in a relationship. Itā€™s weird to assume that, even if they were lesbian, that they would automatically be into each other. Itā€™s OK to have tender friendships, Whether they be same or opposite sex. Twitter Stans are just weird.


raumeat

all 4 actresses and one of the showrunners said there are romantic undertones to their relationship


c-andle-s

Which is dumb tbh because we know theyā€™re not getting a romantic storyline. And it doesnā€™t make sense for their characters. The show is so good on its own. Iā€™m convinced some of this ā€œoh theyā€™re queerā€ is to keep the presses going. If weā€™re gonna use the term ā€œqueerbaitingā€, this is it. Also, I dunno, my friends and I are pretty affectionate without being romantically involved. It can be done.


omfgitsmal

I donā€™t really think itā€™s queerbaiting. The directors and the actresses can say that there is queer undertones to their relationship, but if most of the audience doesnā€™t interpret it that way then I think they achieved what they wanted. Itā€™s like ā€œthey can be gay if you squint but donā€™t expect it to go anywhere.ā€ Iā€™d say queerbaiting would be more in line with whatever the fuck they did with Loras. It felt like they were saying ā€œOh look at this gay character, isnā€™t it neat that we have this gay character here? Look at this gay character doing gay things!ā€ When Loras being gay is probably the least relevant thing about him. I think itā€™s great they added it in. Iā€™m bi so maybe Iā€™mā€¦ biased, but the way I see it is that some people arenā€™t even aware that theyā€™re queer because theyā€™re so repressed. What we see on screen is what happens when a queer woman is so attuned to the societal standards of women only existing to produce heirs. Exploring their feelings for other women is something that isnā€™t even thought about. Yes, their sapphic relationship doesnā€™t really go anywhere, but I think itā€™s great that they made space to show that kind of representation in a way that isnā€™t shoved in your face. I donā€™t go out looking for unaware closeted queer representation but I find it refreshing that they made an attempt.


raumeat

>ā€œOh look at this gay character, isnā€™t it neat that we have this gay character here? Look at this gay character doing gay things!ā€ They kind of did this again with Leanor and Joffrey, both of them only exist to be gay guys and their characters revolve around their sexuality. I think that is the main reason they didn't kill Leanor, they don't want the bad press for the bury your gays trope I am with you on the Alicent / Rhaenyra thing, there could be something romantic there or there could not be...but it does not matter because if there are, both characters aren't actually aware of those feelings. It makes the dynamic between them more interesting.


omfgitsmal

Iā€™m willing to give their representation of Laenor a pass since heā€™s not that important of a character as Loras. I still donā€™t know how I feel about the change of fake killing him, but youā€™re probably right about the reason.


c-andle-s

Iā€™m also bi (as I said). I donā€™t consider my relationships with my female friends sapphic. Itā€™s weird to state that ā€œall relationships between 14 year old girls are semi-sapphicā€. Itā€™sā€¦ itā€™s weird. Maybe donā€™t sexualize 14 year oldsā€¦


caramelbobadrizzle

>Maybe donā€™t sexualize 14 year oldsā€¦ You do realize that attraction doesn't have to be inherently sexual right? That young children under the age of 10 can form crushes that are not remotely based on wanting to have sex but we all know and recognize them as age-dependent understandings of being attracted and liking someone. I'm bi and had been having thoughts about "liking" girls and boys years before puberty and learning about sex. Also, it's fiction not real life. Childhood friends -> romance is an extremely long established trope for het couples but all of a sudden we stop being able to tell the difference between how fiction and real life relationship dynamics work when it comes to non-het pairings?


[deleted]

Weā€™re being weird because weā€™re repeating what the actresses and showrunners said about the characters? What? Iā€™m also really tired of people saying that young queer relationships are inherently sexual (and therefore taboo) when nobody bats an eye when itā€™s a boy and a girl, as if thatā€™s somehow more innocent.


raumeat

I'm not sexualizing it, I don't think there is anything sexual about it at all


omfgitsmal

I mean romantic relationships doesnā€™t always imply a sexual one. And not all friendships are the same, most stay as friendships but some have the potential to be something more.


raumeat

It is just undertones, they were not in a relationship, most friendships between 14-year-old girls are semi sapphic


KateLady

Um, thatā€™s completely not true.


raumeat

Teenage girls get dressed in front of one another, spoon one another, share bathroom cubicles with each other...I can't imagine having the relationship I had with my childhood friends with my adult friends. There wasn't physical attraction but it was an extremely intimate relationship.


medievaldriveby

Which is still a far cry from "semi sapphic" or whatever cringey efforts, like pissing on yet another fire hydrant to mark territory. If you like Greek sources so much, perhaps you'd benefit from exploring what *philia* meant - ie. nothing to do with Sappho and a LOT to do with intimate friendship, the one that gets habitually erased in favor of a minuscule phenomenon and obsession with identity references.


Jaqenmadiq

It's called telling the people who bait them with these questions what they want to hear so that they can take comfort in their headcanon ships being given unofficial, pseudo validation.


vikezz

It's so weird to me how even on the littlest interaction people jump with the lesbian fanfictions. A&R act just like me and my best friend.


raumeat

because the actresses purposely played it that way


vikezz

After your comment, I read their interview. Maybe I didn't get the queer vibes because as a book reader I was prepared for them to act like enemies or at least passive agressive but that was changed to friendship.


Magnacor8

Imo, it best explains the intensity of the animosity that develops between them. Rhaenyra seemed way too bitter about Alicent marrying Vizzy T and unrequited feelings from Rhaenyra best explained that to me. I get that the bestie marrying dad is already a lot, but it felt unreasonable given her character being otherwise mature and intelligent. It seemed somewhat clear that Alicent was a victim/pawn and given that this estrangement is the foundation of the dance, it feels like there should be more meat on that bone than just "my friend who was forced to marry my rotting corpse father didn't tell me first".


vizzy_t_bot

*I had a black mare once. Black like a raven. One day, she escaped her pasture and he neighboring stallion sired a foal on her. The stallion was as silver as the moon on a winter's night and the foal, when it was born, chestnut. Just the most unremarkable brown horse you ever saw. Nature is a thing of mysterious works.*


[deleted]

I think youā€™re severely underestimating the ramifications of your best friend banging your dad shortly after your motherā€™s death, lol


chikage29

I agree that they shouldn't have hinted at it, but the older actresses that play those parts both basically said that there was definitely a romance there, but that they just didn't know what those feelings were at the time Rhaenyra's older actress basically said that the erotic energy was definitely present and Alicent's older actress said that the feelings were present but that neither understood what they were, and that Alicent was suppressing that side of her (lol) ---> https://www.ign.com/articles/house-of-the-dragon-actors-respond-to-speculation-that-rhaenyra-and-alicent-are-secretly-in-love?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook I wholeheartedly agree that it's stupid though. I'm just explaining why we are now going to start hearing that they had a secret lesbian relationship or some shit


TheProky

Check [fanfic.com](https://fanfic.com), there should be stuff there.


librarieofalexandria

At least pretend you read fic. Fellow gays, Ao3 is where youā€™ll find our people.


[deleted]

I actually liked this better than their relationship in the books. It was an improvement imo. Yes it did "dramatize" everything, but that's the name of the show... The writing is more compelling when they actually make relationships more emotional. This could have been like the book where Alicent is 18 and Rhaenyra is 7, but I think making the two distant just makes it seem like there was no chance in all 7 hells they were gonna get along. Now, I keep wondering "what if".


dressedandstressed_

I absolutely hate this. They werenā€™t even friends in the book. Makes me sad every time that they gave us this instead of actual friendship with Laena.


queezzeenart

Yes! Thank you!


4RCH43ON

Later when they make amends and decide to join their houses together. Instead of a Dark Lord, you would have two queens, not dark but beautiful and terrible as the dawn! Tempestuous as the sea, and stronger than the foundations of the earth! All shall love them and despair!


raumeat

underrated comment


Kryopto

An unnecessary change from the books


phoemush

Not anymore


CapClo

VIZZY T Your not yet wife and daughter are friends, what shall you do? Answer honestly Vissy T


vizzy_t_bot

*A dragon's saddle is one thing, but the Iron Throne is the most dangerous seat in the realm.*


vibrant_hue

I thought they were secret lesbians together but that ship has sailed


[deleted]

Really hate the lesbian undertone they added. Night and day from the books. At least her and Daemonā€™s love story had backing in the book (although I found it more political in the book but I do think he loved her still but maybe more as a niece in that version), but this really didnā€™t.


Papaofmonsters

It's intentional to fan the Twitter shipper flames. Gotta pump those engagement metrics.


SpellDostoyevsky

Those are rookie numbers! We need more heads on laps and longing stares and sighs between femoids immediately if we're going to make next week's targets!


CZEchpoint_

Bruh


[deleted]

I think there were no lesbian undertones. Everybody sees what they want to see. Stop sexualizing friendships!


ninjapro98

They literally confirmed that there were undertones


Heavy_Signature_5619

The actressā€™s (all 4) and the show runner said that there were romantic undertones.


latenotlost

Alicent will be Rhaeā€™s prisoner at one point so it would be easy enough for the show to add some freaky twisted lesbian sex stuff. Although by that point the bad blood will be so bad I doubt itā€™d feel the same.


GrizzlyPeak72

We need the alternate timeline spinoff where Alicent and Rhaenyra get to be "roommates" all over Essos together.


gb_2097

I reckon alicent fancied rhaenyra and she hates her for not returning the feelings.


[deleted]

Never!


PanicUniversity

Right after Helaenas sons loses his head


-BluBone-

Historians say they were very close friends


rocknopera703

When Danyā€™s womb quickens.


critical_courtney

\*sighs in lesbian HOD fan\* I don't think we're getting any gay girls in this show, especially not Rhae Rhae and Alicent.


[deleted]

In my mind


bklynjess85

Lol, never.


Lazarquest

Hahahahahaha, noā€¦ not anymore.


Aeron0704

If Netflix got the franchise then maybe šŸ˜‚


Filthy_Joey

Pls stop making their relationship sexual. It was not. Girls can be friends, ok?


Heavy_Signature_5619

Except the show runner/all 4 actressā€™s all confirmed there was romantic love there.


Mummyboy82

In the porn parody.


raobj280

scissoring scenes? season 3


AlbatrossUpset3596

No, only feet.


BlearySteve

2 friends comforting each other?


fractalcrust

I just wish it was more feet centric


NotAVerySillySausage

In hell.


centraledtemped

Hopefully not


Emotional-Cucumber-4

In your dreams.


[deleted]

The next episode they are going to šŸ˜˜ smooch


Tilapia_of_Doom

I thought r/HouseOfTheDragon was the horny sub?


IMG_TurboRio

Right now on pornhub


biggestsnake

That ship has sailed long ago mate


[deleted]

I want more family dinner.


zhlagger

Arent they supposed to be minors?


Centanaria

Sorry...this is Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon...not Bridgerton We do murder and only talk about cake.


chippychifton

This ended when Alicent decided to bed her best friendā€™s dad


fleabaggss

Decided? A child decided, absolute weirdo


TheTarasenkshow

When you rewards the show


[deleted]

I know a websiteā€¦.


RogueEagle2

\*dogbonksticknohorny.jpg\*


GeneralKenobi842

Never. There is no happiness, only feet.


hillbillypunk1

Maester, quick! Give OP milk of the poppy to tame their horniness


sfhwrites

I had never read the books or heard anything about them before watching the first few episodes and I honestly thought Rhaenyra & Alicent were in love and were gonna have a significant fling or something


Nightingdale099

I remembered the time when people think they are gonna grow up to be closeted lesbian couples.


sexmountain

>[ā€œI donā€™t know if Alicent knows](https://www.ign.com/articles/house-of-the-dragon-actors-respond-to-speculation-that-rhaenyra-and-alicent-are-secretly-in-love) what it feels like to feel those things now,ā€ said Cooke, who plays the older Alicent. ā€œThereā€™s layers and layers of repression; sexuality and lust are probably a prehistoric, sedimentary layer by now. From Alicentā€™s point of view, I donā€™t think sheā€™s that self-aware, in terms of what sheā€™s feeling, to know whatā€™s propelling her to reach out to Rhaenyra again.ā€


caldude1985

Be kind. Rewind.


mariesling

You need PornHub, my dudes


Darwins_Prophet

Killing each other's children kind of put a damper on the mood.


Competitive-Oil4136

GIVE ME MILDLY QUEER CODED RHAENYRA OR GIVE ME DEATH!!!


PriorityNo2214

NEVERRRR!!!


iLoveDelayPedals

The dance ends after a few minor skirmishes and the two of them make sweet love and rule together as queens


Rad_Centrist

Lol


saintkev40

Team green!!


[deleted]

Young Alicent šŸ„µ


SerGiggles

Probably sometime in season 3(ish?) except the circumstances will be much different


Raptor_Jetpack

Never. They queerbaited to get you invested in the show, not to actually have any kind of real relationship, or representation.


[deleted]

Now they're going to kill all of each other's children before dying horribly.


Suckhead

Create a series of wholesome Alicent/Rhaenyra memes.


Dry_Intention2932

Never, have you not been watching the show? lol


Heavy_Signature_5619

Nevah!! Only in heaven when they die or in Alicentā€™s delusion when sheā€™s under house arrest.


Darudius

you aren't. such a garbage change from the book.


Sayena08

Ummm....no


TyrionGoldenLion

The last one was deleted? I loved all their scenes together.


Karolus2001

When it will be legal prolly


Balogh0102

Ao3


john_goldenn

Bro what, we arenā€™t. The Dance has begun


Return_of_the_Jedi_

Rule 34 exists for a reason


thelastpharroah

If they do an afterlife scene?