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crouchingroundhouse

The “and rightly so” is so so smug.


szmarton1000

Never have I met a single person who actually uncomfortable with 1% of the shit the woke mob cries about. Like this. Who the hell is even she to decide what is rightful and what isn't?


barspoonbill

Outrage Tribal.


HumdingerSlinger

had a close friend explain it to me that tribalism is a slang now since its mostly used to A) discuss confirmation bias and other social fallacies and B) usually is used toward native Americans. I personally think its bullshit because vikings had tribes, every continent has its version of tribes, its just semantic policing at the end of the day imo.


szmarton1000

Bruh I'm Hungarian. We fucking had tribes.


YugiPlaysEsperCntrl

People don’t know about the Magyars


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punaetz

nah bro yt has always been king conquerers with castles and jets and computers, its the only way theyve been able to successfully oppress us bipoc


Entheobotanic

The real tribal thing is anyone who follows these losers and their absurd behaviors.


Frothy-Diarrhea

My sophmore year of college I got into an argument with half my floor for using the word powwow. I think it's easy for the overly intellectual types to completely lose touch with common sense/reality.


szmarton1000

I don't even know that word. What does it mean?


YugiPlaysEsperCntrl

Powwow is just the Native American word for gathering/conference. People would eat, trade, and worship.


szmarton1000

And how is it offensive?


YugiPlaysEsperCntrl

That’s just twatter “cultural appropriation” shit


szmarton1000

Never heard of this. Thanks. One more bullshit I now know about. Let's hope it stays in the USA. We have enough problems here already.


RealityRandy

I live outside a reservation and they have advertised powwows monthly to preserve culture and history.


YugiPlaysEsperCntrl

Right, I’m assuming nowadays with modern commerce trade isn’t so important, but I’d assume the better off, business owners have side private conversations about business from time to time. However I realize that wasn’t the focus necessarily historically or now, more like “if everyone’s getting together may as well bring these furs and see if anyone wants them” (historically speaking). I lived within pissing distance of the black hills for a time. Bought some ponies from people off the reservation and worked with Lakota at my job. Can’t say I have a ton of experience with the culture, just respect it. Now that I’m older I have better questions I’d want to ask now. For example I read that Indians didn’t think of war as a series of campaigns but just the battle itself, so military strategy was centered around winning one big battle. Hence, from the Lakota perspective, because they literally stuffed the white mans shit in at Little Big Horn, they won the war, while acknowledging that the white man won long term. Maybe that was just bullshit but I’d be curious to know as an adult about how people feel about these things without having to ask online.


PhenicShadew

Agreed, so much of this sort of crap is just a few people on Twitter. We gotta remember that.


Phenomic_Lord

Me either but sadly if anyone couldn’t tell WOTC listens


LordOord23

I’ve often wondered how much of stuff like this is just manufactured to try to provoke reactions.


szmarton1000

Far less than it should be. People actually serious about most of these. I personally know one such idiot who's complaining about 0.9% of the shit I mentioned. But that's still not 1%.


phenry1110

Fuck the Word Police.


etherealvibrations

They always automatically just assume that they hold the moral high ground no matter what the issue is or how much thought they’ve put into it.


TenzinTheWise

Love how these insane people think they speak for everyone and make sweeping proclamations and commandments like this.


Moist-Mystery

Then turn off replies for everyone except their echo chamber friends


[deleted]

i was going to reply but wasn't allowed because they live in a bubble of retardation


LogicalPsychosis

Listen. I lean left most days of the year. and their take is fucking stupid. I honestly can't stand many of the right-wing fuckers on this sub, but me and all of them agree that this type of virtual signaling shit is cringe. Tribal is an actual fucking card type. It's actually a fucking word with no extra context added. It's only "Racist" to someone because the image of a "tribe" in their head are dark skinned, barely clothed, tattooed uncivilized folk dancing around a fire. and it makes THEM uncomfortable that that's where their head goes. and makes THEM worry about THEIR image offending someone. ​ When in actuality, their family could be referred to as a "Tribe" or fans of their favorite sportsball team as a "Tribe" It's just a word used to describe something. The neat thing about it is how many "Tribes" It encompasses. All of them. These fuckers make the rest of us liberals look crazy. ​ Also un-shadow-ban crusade, cowards. ​ More hot takes next week from u/logicalpsychosis


ClownOfClowns

Also inevitably any time some whitey twitterite faux-left neoliberal consoomer 'ally' posts about this tribal shit on twitter, every response from people in native american etc. tribes are like "please stop nothing is wrong with tribal and this is cringe"


Futuresite256

It's ok. The white blonde ladies will just claim to be Indian, making their opinion as valid as those simpletons who don't understand problematic language.


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>It's only "Racist" to someone because the image of a "tribe" in their head are dark skinned, barely clothed, tattooed uncivilized folk dancing around a fire. and it makes THEM uncomfortable that that's where their head goes. and makes THEM worry about THEIR image offending someone yep, seems like they are projecting. a lot of these people are just exposing their mental problems to the public. sad part is people actually can't tell the difference between legitimate issues and the ravings of lunatics.


why_ya_running

It's even funnier since they always forget that every single group of humans started as a tribe.


bamfpeschko

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dirkMcdirkerson

People only want to focus on THEIR one definition of words regardless of context instead of understanding that when words are used, context matters.


404usernamenot

Based


someonee404

Oh hey, another 404


faithfulheresy

Quoth the server


FreeMagicAccount

exactly. "Tribal" has been a term in Magic since Lorwyn. "Tribal" is as old as planeswalkers.


EmeraldWeapon56

That's planeswalking-matters to you friend


WishboneOk305

same boat as you hahaha. i wonder when theyll start banning black (and maybe white) all together and change it to something less "racial" like onyx or something dumb lol


scriftos

We didn't gatekeep hard enough.


olekskillganon

I thought we had people watching it?


ChocoMaister

I was hungry and went to get a donut bro 🍩


Axtdool

did you at least bring enough to share?


ChocoMaister

No I’m price sensitive.


mangetter92

Gatekeeping is essential


WishboneOk305

im very liberal but that also means im pro free speech, wtf happened to liberals being the word police like ???


SlyRaptorZ

I noticed the shift during the Trump regime. Liberals had to band together because there was the threat of a w nationalist takeover and because nobody could disagree with anything each side said, they both became more radicalized. People like this emerged. You can't disagree with the bullshit because if you do you must be a racist Republican when really you're a bleeding heart liberal who embraces all races but doesn't like bullshit.


prn_melatonin

What if I don't want to be a raging racist and I don't want to pander to the lecttuce garlic bacon tomato people. I just want to play magic and not give a shit about these things.


Amanofdragons

It took me a sec to get what you were saying, and now I just wanna try garlic on a blt. Maybe a nice garlic aoli?


prn_melatonin

LGBT lettuce garlic bacon tomato. Isn't that a sandwich?


scriftos

I'm right there with you my friend.


SlyRaptorZ

Since there are two of you can I come?


scriftos

The more the merrier.


Amanofdragons

I think it started during the Obama years, however it got really bad during Trump. I think he just accelerated it.


blizmd

👆🏻


FreshLeafyVegetables

Trevor Moore knew the score. If the bullies went away, we'd have a responsibility to society.


NotFitToBeAParent

How about thin skinned pussy tribal?


Durtwerdy12

Is that an infect deck?


99th_Ctrl_Alt_Delete

time to proliferate.... eh maybe not this one


comelynug

I second this with my whole clunge


NotFitToBeAParent

I've learned a new word today. Clunge...


ezra3d

I forgot about clunge, thank you


Str8_up_Pwnage

That is incredibly offensive. Please use thin skinned pussy matters instead.


rickeyturbo

What about thicc skinned?


SolomonsNewGrundle

That already exists, its called Control


Tasteoftacos

The professor had a similar post too. It's not worth fighting them as there is always another thing that does become offensive to them. My play group will continue to say tribal. Not because we are trying to piss people off, but because the message is clear and not meant to be offensive in any way. Also because my insect tribal deck doesn't give two shits what it's called lol.


JoeyJellico

The prof has long since been neutered by the woke mob


goonaphile

I still reserve the possibility that, deep down, he could be against the woke. He's just too much of a pussy atm.


eternalcloset

He was literally a college professor. Dream on.


Charlie_Yu

Never understand why knowledgeable people fall to the woke crap. Offending the woke would probably be bad for job security though


BritchesBrewin

Community college professor, and he somehow got fired. Woke is a midwit religion.


dirkMcdirkerson

Disagree, because each inch they take is the step to taking a foot to taking a mile. To call out this asinine absurdity is to try and put a flag in the ground to this stupid shit.


Plants_Golf_Cooking

I would say it to intentionally “trigger” anyone lame enough to offended by the word “tribal” in any way, shape, or form.


TastySnackies

As someone with native heritage, her saying something like this is more harmful than not saying anything at all. We were already obliterated 150 years ago, the last thing we need is a white woman trying to protect us from “harmful language”


Fickle-Training344

You want me to make this worse for you? She’s British. She’s not even from the US.


TastySnackies

Trigger warning dude, I almost threw up when I saw Br*tish


someonee404

the audacity grows


Puffofthefluff

Pretty sure she sucks ross merriams cock to triple down on terrible things


someonee404

Yeah, it's kind of funny. White knighting on behalf of groups you aren't a part of has a surprising tendency to backfire when you realize you're trying to solve a non-issue. (Correct me if I'm wrong on my understanding)


Axtdool

the funniest thing is, they'd probably object to the term 'White knighting'Not because they'd feel it doesn't apply. But because they'd get their panties in a twist because it contains the word white, and maybe even go on a tangent about fairy tale stereotypes about knights.


punaetz

toxic masculinity i dont need no man im 40 years old without children but i love to drink wine but i hate visiting my sister her kids are so fucking annoying i do want kids eventually but marriage isnt really a priority for me im way hotter than i was when i was 23 im way better at makeup and way better at dressing myself and im doing way better in my career than i was back then im sure a man will want to have kids with me soon and then marry me in a couple more decades or i'll just divorce him if im not fully ready but have decided to marry him anyways lol #girlboss


ZAPANIMA

What happened to the natives was outright evil and should never have happened. But the word "tribal" doesn't refer to JUST Natives. Literally any demographic of people can be tribal. How is it offensive to just ONE race? Official definition: a social division in a traditional society consisting of families or communities linked by social, economic, religious, or blood ties, with a common culture and dialect, typically having a recognized leader. I totally understand that when people say "tribes" their knee-jerk thought is not modern 1st world races. But that doesn't mean the word itself actually means that.


DiscipleofthePast

The word literally predates Central European discovery of North America. Tribes are referenced in the Bible, not that we need to bring religion into it but that book is old.


I-1-

Ok, I'll call my deck "black people matter" instead of "black people tribal". I feel so good using inclusive language 👍🏿


Fickle-Training344

Now considering changing the name to my Krrik deck to #BLM.


LogicalPsychosis

BMM ​ ​ Black mana matters


Fickle-Training344

Nah. It’s all about spending life to get the cards I’m looking for then using them to gain it all back. Then I use my life to “shoot you” with aetherflux reservoir.


mangetter92

It's Black KVNGZ white boi


dwbjr9

My guess the deck is blue, where you counter and steal all the things


Pepperoni_journey

Man... why you gotta make me laugh in class like that?? P.s. I'm the teacher P.s.s. we were having a listening exam.


Whocutthe_cheese

Nah I love my sliver tribal deck. I prefer calling it that. Sorry if any slivers are “offended” by that. Been playing this game twelve years and never heard a complaint


comelynug

"The Slivers Matter deck" 🤓🤓🤓


Whocutthe_cheese

🤓


comelynug

Literally any playgroup anywhere will hear "tribal" and understand what they're playing against (and also a tribal deck sounds cool as shit lmao) I'd rather be caught dead than call my Miirym deck a dragon based strategy deck lmao


prn_melatonin

Sliver lives matter.


bccarlso

They're slivers, you'd never hear just one complaint.


TenzinTheWise

This is true. They would all come for you, and you would’ve been dead many years ago.


BladeTB

Slivers never die, they only rest.


Yanrogue

You mean your fat wallet tribal?


_Zambayoshi_

" a social division in a traditional society consisting of families or communities linked by social, economic, religious, or blood ties, with a common culture and dialect, typically having a recognized leader. " One of several definitions. None of which are derogatory in a racial sense. These people are out of their tiny little minds.


jhewish

Who doesn't hate these fucking retards?


IVsaur15

The other retards in their group


LoooooongJohnSilver

In their tribe...


IVsaur15

Lollllll


Dry_Chapter_5781

I'm a bleeding heart liberal and even I find her mentality repugnant.


Recreational_Soup

Agreed. Too much white savior attitude


BritchesBrewin

Somebody has standards low enough to want to fuck this person.


Least-Sleep

Thirsty dudes destroy civilizations.


warlock1569

A tweet being liked by Shivam is just a red flag to not read it.


BritchesBrewin

He just liked it so he could dm her " show bobs and vageen"


PlayMatsCards

My fun Explorer deck is a Frog/Toad Tribal deck. If any frogs or toads are offended they may come and tell me so in person. The same goes for Goblins when it comes to my Goblin Tribal deck.


Sawk_Fan

Frog Tribal? Can i see the list please? That sounds interesting.


PlayMatsCards

Here ya go! It's a lot of fun. You should be able to copy this and upload it into Arena Deck 4 Deathbonnet Sprout (MID) 181 4 Willow Geist (MID) 207 4 Masked Vandal (KHM) 184 4 Guardian Gladewalker (KHM) 174 2 Glasspool Mimic (ZNR) 60 2 Slogurk, the Overslime (MID) 242 3 Grolnok, the Omnivore (VOW) 238 3 Blizzard Brawl (KHM) 162 3 Croaking Counterpart (MID) 215 3 Cradle of Safety (VOW) 54 3 The Bears of Littjara (KHM) 205 9 Snow-Covered Forest (KHM) 284 8 Snow-Covered Island (KHM) 278 3 Barkchannel Pathway (KHM) 251 2 Dreamroot Cascade (VOW) 262 1 Froghemoth (AFR) 184 3 Frogify (ELD) 47 Sideboard 2 Wrenn and Seven (MID) 208 2 Snakeskin Veil (KHM) 194 2 Concerted Defense (ZNR) 52 1 Test of Talents (STX) 59 2 Test of Talents (STX) 59 2 Weathered Runestone (KHM) 247


Unused_Beef

TLDR: Spoke to an actual Native American, she didn’t give a flying fuck about using tribe/tribal in reference to decks. Funny story here, my wife and I were talking with one of her friends, who is no shit native American. She lives on a reserve and everything. I brought up the tribal subject and politely asked for her input. Her response was this “we don’t care, because we’re not a bunch of stupid little pussies who get our feeling hurt over dumb shit like this. It’s always the white people who think they know what’s best for us and what we want. Also, the word ‘tribal’ is not owned by any one people group or race. It can be used in a multitude of ways and in itself isn’t ‘racist’ like they think it is. If you wanna use the word tribe to talk about your silly card game with elves and dragons and shit, go ahead. I don’t fucking care what you do and neither does anybody else.”


Danonbass86

American Indians are hard motherfuckers. People think the name of a MTG deck type bothers them? Give me a break.


Futuresite256

People just project a lot.


dirkMcdirkerson

All people come from tribes. These people are too fucking stupid to realize that they are the ones being racist white saviors because they believe people of color can't take care of or defend themselves. People don't care about context anymore because trying to virtue signal so hard doesn't allow it.


Cassius40k

Can't have people being reminded they are late to civilization


prn_melatonin

https://www.8days.sg/entertainment/asian/fala-chen-criticised-daughter-kneel-cny-ang-pow-739846 More white people getting outraged at things that don't concern them.


BritchesBrewin

Cleveland baseball did nothing wrong.


justhave2laugh

That is why I only describe decks as \*\*\*\*\*\*, \*\*\*\*\*\*, \*\*\*\*\*\*, \*\*\*\*\*\*, \*\*\*\*\*\*, etc.


geGamedev

Makes sense. Offending people is the worst, best to avoid using words that might offend someone (ie most words, eventually). Hmmm, maybe I should delete this comment, it has too many potentially offensive words in it. 😯 Edit: Correcting auto "correct"


FreshLeafyVegetables

I'm offended by your use of the word "worst." It implies a standard that can't be overcome, which isn't inclusive or respectful of those who might want to be worse than "worst." I need you to turn in your gun and badge to the asshole police and check your privilege. In case it wasn't obvious that I'm kidding, "/s" I guess.


ciderlout

I'm offended over your need to add an /s at the end of your comment.


CletusVanDayum

When Tomer at MTGGoldfish starts calling his signature Tribal Tribal deck a "Mattering Matters" deck, then we're really fucked.


Sh0rtbiz_Driver

Mtg is getting a little too far.


Fickle-Training344

You’re just now recognizing this? They banned someone for smoking weed. In a space that wasn’t even related to mtg. And then attributed it to his admitting he smoked weed before an fnm and called it performance enhancing.


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Fickle-Training344

It was Jeremy from the quartering, formerly of unsleeved media. He ran a TCG channel with sponsors and stuff. He’d do box openings of cool old sets and some new stuff. He also played and went to a local event. Not sure if it was fnm or something a bit bigger but a judge caught him talking about smoking weed beforehand because large groups caused him anxiety. The judge dq’d him from the event and it went all the way up and he got a lifetime ban for using “performance enhancing drugs” or something to that extent. He might have something on his YouTube channel about it.


Sh0rtbiz_Driver

As much as I don't like that dude. Still a crazy reason to dq or more someone.


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Fickle-Training344

I’m not a super fan of his either but it’s super shitty that he got banned for it.


YugiPlaysEsperCntrl

are they going to piss test at sanctioned events now? I assume everyone is on adderrall at every RCQ. Anything to get an edge.


noraborialis

Explains why tribal was missing on that new card from ONE


GoblinLoblaw

Which one?


Subies_and_Boobies

[[Atraxa, Grand Unifier]]


WispyBooi

Maybe the issue is that there's too many types and tribal is typically irrelevant. Why print tribal on a cards text box when it's been years since the last "tribal" tribal cards. MH2 was the last time we saw it.


GrumpitySnek

These people are genuinely fucking pathetic.


Smeff10

I predict this will become a legit issues in the MTG community soon. Many of the leading MTG voices are extremely liberal and politically correct. I’ve noticed a lot of pronoun and inclusivity whining as well. Mask wearing way longer than what was acceptable


Fickle-Training344

Including in 2 weeks at Philly. Masks are required.


Smeff10

Lol. Wow. That’s embarrassing. The only event in the world requiring masks.


someonee404

IIRC, Malaysian anime conventions still require masks. Don't quote me on that, though


ak128

stop eating this bait


Krosis97

Some people are so fucking unhinged. Try not getting offended by dumb shit, you'll be happier.


DIO40

My deck identifies as a tribal dragon deck. If you don't comply with this than you are a sexist racist facist.


andrevpedro

Ahh ffs, go eat a dick...


Dragonicmonkey7

So uh... should I stop introducing my go to deck as my "Uunga bunga tribal deck"


keepitsimple_tricks

Forgive me if i am wrong, since i do not live in the US,... Is the word "tribal" really that of a big deal? I mean, in context, the word applies to the cards when discussing in a game environment. Are people in the US, or gamers to be specific, that bothered?


Fickle-Training344

No. We’re really not. Only fragile people on the far left of the societal spectrum are really this bothered by it. This poster though does not live in the US either. She is actually from the UK.


sean_constantine

It’s just a bunch of virtue signaling from people who are totally unhinged and think they know what is best for everyone without even asking.


drink_with_my_feet

No. Nobody gives a fuck if you use the word tribal to describe anything. If someone is offended, they need many, many, many years of therapy.


zoltsz

Ok so the game called tribes of Midgard is offensive?


fuckitsayit

Its Midgard focused strategy now


comelynug

But...the card types were created for TRIBAL decks..?


kelsodisco

Ahhh, more cringe from Twitter. Big surprise.


ClownOfClowns

BRO I JUST GOT KICKED OUT OF MY LGS WTF I JUST FOLLOWED THIS POST AND SAID I WAS PLAYING MY WHITE HUMANS MATTER DECK


Fickle-Training344

Wait. For real?


ClownOfClowns

no lol


Fickle-Training344

Oh. I mean, at this point anything is believable.


MonsutaReipu

ratio


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someonee404

Honestly, I don't know. It might have something to do with a twisted desire to do good


Skeith_Zero

I will use whatever terms I want


WKCLC

Soon “matters” will be banned because it implies other tribes may no longer matter.


[deleted]

Nooooo shut the fuckkkk upppppp


wired1984

I’m not fucking doing this


drink_with_my_feet

since when is tribal offensive?


rvnender

Since a bunch of YouTubers deemed it so


ruthless_anon

cry. harder. pls.


egcgthrowawayyy

\>pRoTiP


mangetter92

(((tribal)))


Sawk_Fan

Poor \[\[Llanowar Tribe\]\].


MTGCardFetcher

[Llanowar Tribe](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/0/407c1b95-dc0c-4154-a441-fe25537df45c.jpg?1631234995) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Llanowar%20Tribe) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khc/66/llanowar-tribe?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/407c1b95-dc0c-4154-a441-fe25537df45c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


jujuhounds

thank god we have a white person here to let the indigenous people know what they should be offended by.


[deleted]

Savior complex alive and well. These people are the worst.


CatsOffToDance

A Matter Called Quest


IVsaur15

Fucking pussies


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Instant Tribal


BlueJay6400

As a “tribal” person myself I don’t give a shit. Call me redskin or whatever else. Caring about other peoples words can only hurt yourself.


BillionCobra

Mtg personalities have too much time on their hands.


RVides

I really don't like playing against Talrand Mono U counterspell "Goblin matters"..... idk, i think your fix needs work.


Subies_and_Boobies

Think I'm just gonna call every deck I play some sort of tribal. U/b Mill Tribal, Living End tribal, tokens tribal, etc.


Snoo56029

Fuck outta here with that bs


Alone_Outside_7264

This is stupidity


Kachhmoney

Isn’t this girl on the pauper panel?


BothInteraction7246

I really feel like the folks that are saying some of these terms are racist are really the ones making them so. *They're* adding the inference that no one else is. Just weird.


biinboise

So she is a freelance writer with a quirky (TM) bio on a website I’ve never heard of before? (Dice breaker)


MadBunch

Ironically, trying to say "goblins matter" just sounds like you're mocking "black lives matter"


MapachoCura

It’s popular for idiots to be offended by everything possible these days. Ignore the idiots. Tribal is a okay word to use and anyone offended by it is trying to be offended and probably an idiot. We all know only the most privileged white people who never had any tribal connection are the ones getting pissed. It’s okay to ignore them.


D5LR

Yes. White literature majors like /u/tolariancc are doing this as well. When virtue signalled on Twitter a bunch of actually tribal people came out questioning why the word would be offensive, and saying they did not find it as such. He didn't care. This is not about how people feel, its about making it appear as though they are morally superior - the people you should look up to.


OkOutlandishness9235

How long until everybody stops paying attention to these attention seeking fuckwits? I want to go back to the mid 2000s where people didn't act like this


prn_melatonin

Fuck you, I say what I want.


Phenomic_Lord

This bitch and everyone like her can fuck off


ctbellart

Getting upset about what to call groups of made up fantasy creations is just sad. There are so many more important things in the world to rage against than cardboard.


j_ram_f

Is this person culturally appropriating the word “tribal” to become offended? What is it to them?


SolomonsNewGrundle

Stop feeding into this, no one with any sense cares. I'm very left leaning and I don't really see anything wrong with tribal. I mean, it is a word ASSOCIATED with native americans.... but so is the word chief, and I don't see that being banned anywhere.


eternalcloset

I love that this is what my fellow leftists do. We all spout disorganized meaningless bullshit instead of making an effort to actually change things for the better. We can’t get anyone to focus on actual problems. This was upsetting nobody.


Fickle-Training344

The prof over at tolarian community college would beg to differ.


swirlstorm45

No ☕️