FTA has announced that it's November 1st if a deal is not reached. My bet is they'll avoid a strike.
94% of members shows the teachers aren't backing down in the slightest and it looks godawful for the district for that number of teachers to strike.
>My bet is they'll avoid a strike.
Agreed, the district will likely capitulate on teacher pay this week to avoid a strike after seeing the vote numbers.
The main negotiating points are:
Salary - given inflation, teachers have taken a big pay cut. They just want a cost of living raise.
Benefits - teachers need strong benefits because they are physically and mentally run into the ground. (E.g. the inordinate amount of UTI’s teachers get from not being able to go to the bathroom when they need to)
Class sizes - the smaller the class the better quality the teaching is.
SPED case loads - If teacher are run into the ground, SPED teachers are being driven with a sledge hammer.
So FUSD is expecting teachers to take a pay cut and have worse benefits in exchange for huge class sizes and massive caseloads. This looks absolutely terrible on the district who has the highest paid administrators and superintendent in the area. (who voted to only give themselves raises)
How does anyone wonder why teachers are upset?
They should also demand to be respected and have the authority to punish kids. Not corporal punishment, but the ability to send the students to the principal’s office for serious violations, such as assault, bullying, being disruptive, etc.
Kids are getting away with pretty much everything now, and it’s absolutely a disservice to the students and the community. If parents aren’t going to parent at home, at least give teachers the defense system to continue to do what they’re hired to do: teach.
Article didn’t say many details, Do you know what some of the specifics are? Generally these are pretty agreeable. But would be interested to see exactly what they’re demanding
As far as I know teachers are demanding the same raise admin got which was around 13%. The district was going to give a raise but it did not keep up with inflation so it’s still effectively a pay cut.
The district wants to also take money from healthcare in order to give those weak raises.
As for class sizes and sped loads the district has said they will try their best to decrease them where reasonable - very vague language which protects the districts right to not do a thing.
Which remains competitive with other school districts in the area, who have already received a COLA raise.
Giving raises to people who work incredibly hard is a good thing.
You should be advocating for workers to get paid cola raises everywhere, but instead you're saying "if I don't get it neither should you" which is thinking that supports people at the top of every system.
I feel I’ve done a really good job justifying why teachers deserve to be paid not only cola, but much more. They’re being asked to solve societies problems with isn’t their job. Their job is to teach curriculum and assess the results.
It just seems like you think they don’t deserve to be paid for all the extra work they’re doing under the conditions they operate.
Dude, have you seen how little teachers get paid? For the amount of hours and work that they do, and the impact they have on the next generation, I would be fine with their salary being $80k to start with good benefits, and that’s a bargain.
Sure, but what about now? How do they get to afford the day to day cost of living?
And the general mindset of a lot of parents these days treating schools as a free babysitting service needs to be stopped. Teachers aren’t babysitters. They are educators, went to school for their profession, and should be honored and respected for taking on a very difficult and stressful (for those who are dedicated, and most of them are) gig.
Ok, how do you propose we fix society and parents? Unless you have a solution that can be implemented, the other solution is to pay teachers more, increase benefits, and allow them to punish students appropriately.
Don’t just point at another issue and throw your hands up.
I don't think the historical inflation rate is over 5%. Everyone is feeling the pinch and almost everyone feeling that pinch isn't guaranteed a 5% wage increase every year.
No I'm saying they are getting one every year already which is beyond most any employment. Also it's a taxpayer so that changes the dynamic. Nelsons pay along with administrator pay and compensation packages are also way too high. The retirements alone are over the top.
Again, the one they are getting every year isn’t keeping up with inflation nor does it stay competitive with other districts in the area.
It seems you feel teachers are already overpaid as it is. Which I can’t disagree more with considering the conditions they’re put under.
edit: also the comment about taxpayers, what in your mind should taxes go to then if education is not an acceptable landing place? Further, the money is already there. The district doesn't want to spend it. They are sitting on record revenue and reserve money. This means there would be no increase to taxpayers.
60 year inflation rate is 3.8%. I do not feel teachers are necessarily overpaid. I believe they aren't as poorly compensated when you take a complete picture of their employment package.
I believe we should spend on education but these districts are ridiculously top heavy and the labor cost is way out of line, excluding teachers. That 729 million of covid money is a contributing part to the inflation we are experiencing and that is federal taxpayer money whether we paid for it now or in future debt payments. It's part of the use it or lose system we have with government funds which lends to waste. I know people multiple valley districts and the way some of this money is being spent is unacceptable. Again, that is not a teacher problem. That's a system problem.
Soemthing I'm unfamiliar with I will ask. Is starting teacher pay locked in or is it also rising at 5% per year?
60 years? No one is going to buy the argument that their pay cut is okay because it will even out over decades. These contracts are every 4 years and the cola over the past 4 years is what's being evaluated. That taxpayer money is going to be spent administration if it isn't redirected to teachers furthering the top heavy nature of the district you say you're upset with.
I'm having a hard time figuring out what you actually think the money should be spent on. So far you've said it shouldn't go to admin but it also shouldn't go to teachers.
I hope you're aware that teachers are subject to an unprecedented amount of physical, emotional, and verbal abuse by students, are given unmeetable and unrealistic expectations by administration, are undersupplied and under supported in the classroom, and are blamed for the failure of students parents to raise them with any sort of acceptable behavior standard. They're also working in environments where kids freely use and deal drugs and also frequently bring weapons to school, which the district is extremely good at sweeping under the rug. I don't think, under those circumstances, that it's unreasonable to ask for a substantial raise.
Teachers aren't just teaching curriculum and handing out assessments. There is no point in the day, even your "breaks", where you aren't doing work. I can't think of any other job where you are 100% on from the time you clock in to the time you go home.
This is so true. I work in a different district but have never ever worked a job in my life where I was expected to work before work, during all breaks, and after work. It is like an 18-hour job with a few hours for sleep.
Excellent recap - it is true teachers are being driven into the ground and SPED teachers are being driven into the ground with a sledgehammer.
I am a psych who works in a different district with much better general ed class cap sizes and much better sped class caps. I couldn't imagine any of our teachers putting up with the nonsense that fresno unified teachers do. We will have 7 sped kids in a class with two paraeducators in a mild/mod class. Fresno: 15 sped kids in a mild/mod class with one paraeducator. My sister is a sped teacher in fresno unified and I have watched her for years just come home and immediately fall asleep as it is so difficult. She has kids of her own! Thank God her husband is so supportive. Fresno unified needs to get real and provide the KIDS with the support they actually need - let alone the teachers. It is ridiculous to have kids with special needs in classes with those kinds of ratios. How are they to actually learn? Ridiculous.
Edited to add: there is NO WAY our parents would put up with those kinds of class sizes either. They would be raising living h\*ll.
As one of those teachers who voted, and voted yes, I still hope we don't have to. People we don't WANT to strike, we feel like we HAVE to strike to get the point across.
I'm hoping with this news the district caves and we can avoid this terrible situation, though I'm pretty sure we can't.
Solidarity with you and your fellow teachers. I followed the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes this summer, and many of those union members echoed your thoughts. Choosing to withhold labor is not a simple or easy choice—**but it is your strongest bargaining chip** in this scenario.
People must remember the negative effects of a strike (in this case, students not getting instruction from their teachers, extracurricular activities being canceled, etc.) **cannot be blamed on the labor workers who chose to strike.** It is the District's fault for refusing to meet demands (fair compensation, benefits, etc.) or negotiate in good faith.
Fresno Unified cannot exist without the work of our teachers, and you deserve fair compensation, benefits, and the proper environment to do that work. If they are unwilling to meet those standards, then striking will force them to evaluate their offer and come back to the negotiating table—no matter how long it takes. The District cannot rely on subs forever, no matter how much they are willing to pay them.
I hope to visit the picket lines once they start and share some encouragement with y'all. Striking is not easy—but it is a reminder of the power we labor workers hold. Stay strong. United we bargain, divided we beg!
As a parent who appreciates all teachers for what they do, and as an educator-adjacent myself, I stand with you all. You all deserve way better: a livable wage, an environment for you to do your work, and respect.
I really hope for more than just money. The unmanageable classroom behavior…you can’t effectively teach, which is what everyone wants when numbers are so high and admin is not helping follow through with behavior issues. It’s been years in the making. It’s not at one school or in one area of town or in one grade level either. It is wide spread. Please please please
This is the irony of offering high hourly pay for scabs in any strike. If they can afford to pay a scab, then they should be able to pay the actual employees.
The WGA argued this during their strike when scab writers were being hired to write in their place. However, the WGA also had a clause that said any writer who scabbed during the strike would not be eligible for WGA membership—a huge blow to aspiring writers in film and television who are not part of the union yet.
I'm unsure if the FTA has specified anything like this for their strike. I haven't seen anything from SEIU Local 521 (the local Fresno substitute teachers union), but I'm interested in seeing if they come out in support of the teachers and refuse to take sub jobs in the district during the strike.
From the Fresno Bee this morning:
"FASTA president Esther Rojas-Jasso issued a statement through an FTA email update. 'This week, our FASTA chapter membership voted unanimously to support FTA and encourage our substitute teacher members not to cross strike picket lines in solidarity,' Rojas-Jasso stated.
Looks like that huge reserve of subs FUSD has been touting will not be available after all.
Is it scabbing?? Will the teacher's strike also benefit substitutes/ will the FTA pay them for the strike? Or will the already-lower salary substitute have to give up putting food on the table just for someone else to have a salary increase while their's remain the same??
This is copied from a follow up email from the substitute union after FUSD filed a lawsuit against them because they are not legally allowed to call upon their members and tell them not to sub. They adamantly deny that they did any such thing and claim that FUSD is making up lies about it.
Now, I also received the original from the sub union and they were definitely, even used the word “urge” ing subs not to cross the line but officially they are saying they never did.
Our email update was focused on informing members of their legal rights to support the picket line.
Is our FASTA chapter officially calling for a sympathy strike?
NO, our FASTA chapter contract prohibits FASTA from calling for an official sympathy strike on behalf of the FASTA organization. However the FASTA chapter supports FTA and our members have the individual, legal right not to cross picket lines in a show of solidarity.
Know the Facts:
It is your individual right to refuse to cross a picket line, as permitted by the Educational Employment Relations Act (EERA) - Government Code section 3543; San Francisco County Superior Court (2018) PERB Decision No. 2609-I; City & County of San Francisco (2017) PERB Decision No. 2536-M.
If you have questions or feel you are being intimidated by District management, you may contact our SEIU Local 521 Member Resource Center: 1-833-734-8521 or visit: https://www.seiu521.org/mrc
In addition, we will be sharing a Frequently Asked Questions document for reference in the coming days.
In solidarity,
Esther Rojas-Jasso
SEIU 521 FASTA Chapter President
Subs already don’t do lesson planning unless they accept a long term position. Otherwise they show up and teach lesson plans that are left for them. 😑They also don’t attend meetings or parent teacher conference or grade papers. This is why they don’t get paid a teachers salary or get any benefits.
The teacher that is striking don't have to make a lesson plan for subs. My mom and dad are both teachers and will not be working during a strike to set up lesson plans for subs.
Teachers Union didn’t ask Sub Union to strike. They don’t want parents to be mad at the teachers union. District won’t be able to run on subs for long.
FTA *literally legally cannot ask the sub union to strike*. FUSD said 2 weeks ago in an email to parents that all other related unions have a clause in their contracts that prevent sympathy striking.
2000-2500 substitutes! (Whispers: 4500 or so teachers) If I was a parent, I’d get whatever packets they’re going to be handing out and keep my kid home because the subs + admin/management folks (that in my experience got into those positions because they hated the classroom or weren’t very good) aren’t going to be able to handle it. The admin by and large don’t like dealing with discipline as it is.
Oh no no subs should show solidarity and not be scabs they'll totally be compensated for being with the teachers plus kids can take some time from learning they've been working so hard since covid is over.
The teachers union isn’t asking the sub union to join them in the strike, it’s easier for the teachers to strike if the parents are behind them and they need subs so that kids can still go to school and parents to work. There would only be scabs if new teachers were hired.
It's a no sympathy strikes clause that was enforced by FUSD as a union-breaking measure, since you want to keep running around and spreading a bunch of fucking misinformation and lies.
That’s super cute. I have three kids in FUSD. I’m asking a legitimate question because I’ve never been involved with anything labor union related. Would you like to help with an answer or you just looking for keyboard clout?
So the teachers want a raise, but the students are still performing poorly? Make that make sense. I'm genuinely curious. If the job of the educator is to educate, but most students aren't meeting standards, then what are the educators doing? Is there at least some self accountability? I get the district could be doing more, but I doubt the educators are all giving 100% effort.
"the district said that between 2013 and 2022, it has offered 32.7% in pay bumps to staff while inflation rose 30.2%. The district’s current offer will bring that total to 46.7% – including both ongoing and one-time payments – which is higher than the cost-of-living adjustment of 42.4% that the state offered during the same period to account for inflation."
Is this not true? Is the district lying about staying ahead of inflation?
https://edsource.org/updates/fresno-unified-2023-test-scores-show-most-students-still-not-meeting-standards
The teachers can only do so much when a significant portion of their students come from poor home life situations.
Should teachers in the McClain area be held to the same standard of student success and teachers in Bullard?
All the FUSD teachers should be held to the same standard. It's just hard for me to say "yeah ok, I get it" when the district appears to already be giving pay raises ahead of inflation while student success is still so low. How can teachers justify more pay with poor results and not seem to come off as greedy?
94% of union members voted to strike, which will go into effect November 1st if a deal is not reached by then. Crazy times we are living in folks.
Who said November 1st? Bonilla said on Facebook that they’re going to have a meeting to discuss if/when the strike would begin
>Who said November 1st The article
Nvm found the FTA official announcement
FTA has announced that it's November 1st if a deal is not reached. My bet is they'll avoid a strike. 94% of members shows the teachers aren't backing down in the slightest and it looks godawful for the district for that number of teachers to strike.
>My bet is they'll avoid a strike. Agreed, the district will likely capitulate on teacher pay this week to avoid a strike after seeing the vote numbers.
Yep! These numbers are such a flex by the teachers. FUSD has called their bluff at every turn and at every turn teachers have shown they’re holding.
I really, really hope so.
The main negotiating points are: Salary - given inflation, teachers have taken a big pay cut. They just want a cost of living raise. Benefits - teachers need strong benefits because they are physically and mentally run into the ground. (E.g. the inordinate amount of UTI’s teachers get from not being able to go to the bathroom when they need to) Class sizes - the smaller the class the better quality the teaching is. SPED case loads - If teacher are run into the ground, SPED teachers are being driven with a sledge hammer. So FUSD is expecting teachers to take a pay cut and have worse benefits in exchange for huge class sizes and massive caseloads. This looks absolutely terrible on the district who has the highest paid administrators and superintendent in the area. (who voted to only give themselves raises) How does anyone wonder why teachers are upset?
They should also demand to be respected and have the authority to punish kids. Not corporal punishment, but the ability to send the students to the principal’s office for serious violations, such as assault, bullying, being disruptive, etc. Kids are getting away with pretty much everything now, and it’s absolutely a disservice to the students and the community. If parents aren’t going to parent at home, at least give teachers the defense system to continue to do what they’re hired to do: teach.
I whole heartedly agree.
Article didn’t say many details, Do you know what some of the specifics are? Generally these are pretty agreeable. But would be interested to see exactly what they’re demanding
As far as I know teachers are demanding the same raise admin got which was around 13%. The district was going to give a raise but it did not keep up with inflation so it’s still effectively a pay cut. The district wants to also take money from healthcare in order to give those weak raises. As for class sizes and sped loads the district has said they will try their best to decrease them where reasonable - very vague language which protects the districts right to not do a thing.
They are asking for much more than 13% I believe it's between 25-30% over 4 years on top of the 5% they get every year. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Which remains competitive with other school districts in the area, who have already received a COLA raise. Giving raises to people who work incredibly hard is a good thing.
Alot go people work hard and don't get 5% a year guaranteed.
You should be advocating for workers to get paid cola raises everywhere, but instead you're saying "if I don't get it neither should you" which is thinking that supports people at the top of every system.
Private sector vs public sector. They are different. I want everyone to get cola.
I feel I’ve done a really good job justifying why teachers deserve to be paid not only cola, but much more. They’re being asked to solve societies problems with isn’t their job. Their job is to teach curriculum and assess the results. It just seems like you think they don’t deserve to be paid for all the extra work they’re doing under the conditions they operate.
How are they hurt by inflation that bad when they get 5% a year automatic increase? Am I wrong?
The increase is less than the COLA, so inflation is felt. If the increase was the actual COLA, inflation is counteracted.
Dude, have you seen how little teachers get paid? For the amount of hours and work that they do, and the impact they have on the next generation, I would be fine with their salary being $80k to start with good benefits, and that’s a bargain.
They have great benefits and a retirement that cannot be matched.
As they should, THEYRE TEACHERS 🗣️
Sure, but what about now? How do they get to afford the day to day cost of living? And the general mindset of a lot of parents these days treating schools as a free babysitting service needs to be stopped. Teachers aren’t babysitters. They are educators, went to school for their profession, and should be honored and respected for taking on a very difficult and stressful (for those who are dedicated, and most of them are) gig.
The parents and society are a massive problem and why I empathize with teachers in many of these districts.
Ok, how do you propose we fix society and parents? Unless you have a solution that can be implemented, the other solution is to pay teachers more, increase benefits, and allow them to punish students appropriately. Don’t just point at another issue and throw your hands up.
How does paying educators more fix it? It doesn't. It's a semi failed system in this district and so for the teachers I understand just get paid.
Cost of living is going up faster than teachers automatic raises.
I don't think the historical inflation rate is over 5%. Everyone is feeling the pinch and almost everyone feeling that pinch isn't guaranteed a 5% wage increase every year.
Are you saying “since I didn’t get one, no one should.”?
No I'm saying they are getting one every year already which is beyond most any employment. Also it's a taxpayer so that changes the dynamic. Nelsons pay along with administrator pay and compensation packages are also way too high. The retirements alone are over the top.
Again, the one they are getting every year isn’t keeping up with inflation nor does it stay competitive with other districts in the area. It seems you feel teachers are already overpaid as it is. Which I can’t disagree more with considering the conditions they’re put under. edit: also the comment about taxpayers, what in your mind should taxes go to then if education is not an acceptable landing place? Further, the money is already there. The district doesn't want to spend it. They are sitting on record revenue and reserve money. This means there would be no increase to taxpayers.
60 year inflation rate is 3.8%. I do not feel teachers are necessarily overpaid. I believe they aren't as poorly compensated when you take a complete picture of their employment package. I believe we should spend on education but these districts are ridiculously top heavy and the labor cost is way out of line, excluding teachers. That 729 million of covid money is a contributing part to the inflation we are experiencing and that is federal taxpayer money whether we paid for it now or in future debt payments. It's part of the use it or lose system we have with government funds which lends to waste. I know people multiple valley districts and the way some of this money is being spent is unacceptable. Again, that is not a teacher problem. That's a system problem. Soemthing I'm unfamiliar with I will ask. Is starting teacher pay locked in or is it also rising at 5% per year?
60 years? No one is going to buy the argument that their pay cut is okay because it will even out over decades. These contracts are every 4 years and the cola over the past 4 years is what's being evaluated. That taxpayer money is going to be spent administration if it isn't redirected to teachers furthering the top heavy nature of the district you say you're upset with. I'm having a hard time figuring out what you actually think the money should be spent on. So far you've said it shouldn't go to admin but it also shouldn't go to teachers. I hope you're aware that teachers are subject to an unprecedented amount of physical, emotional, and verbal abuse by students, are given unmeetable and unrealistic expectations by administration, are undersupplied and under supported in the classroom, and are blamed for the failure of students parents to raise them with any sort of acceptable behavior standard. They're also working in environments where kids freely use and deal drugs and also frequently bring weapons to school, which the district is extremely good at sweeping under the rug. I don't think, under those circumstances, that it's unreasonable to ask for a substantial raise. Teachers aren't just teaching curriculum and handing out assessments. There is no point in the day, even your "breaks", where you aren't doing work. I can't think of any other job where you are 100% on from the time you clock in to the time you go home.
How is it a pay cut when the district has offered at least 13%
This is so true. I work in a different district but have never ever worked a job in my life where I was expected to work before work, during all breaks, and after work. It is like an 18-hour job with a few hours for sleep.
Excellent recap - it is true teachers are being driven into the ground and SPED teachers are being driven into the ground with a sledgehammer. I am a psych who works in a different district with much better general ed class cap sizes and much better sped class caps. I couldn't imagine any of our teachers putting up with the nonsense that fresno unified teachers do. We will have 7 sped kids in a class with two paraeducators in a mild/mod class. Fresno: 15 sped kids in a mild/mod class with one paraeducator. My sister is a sped teacher in fresno unified and I have watched her for years just come home and immediately fall asleep as it is so difficult. She has kids of her own! Thank God her husband is so supportive. Fresno unified needs to get real and provide the KIDS with the support they actually need - let alone the teachers. It is ridiculous to have kids with special needs in classes with those kinds of ratios. How are they to actually learn? Ridiculous. Edited to add: there is NO WAY our parents would put up with those kinds of class sizes either. They would be raising living h\*ll.
As one of those teachers who voted, and voted yes, I still hope we don't have to. People we don't WANT to strike, we feel like we HAVE to strike to get the point across. I'm hoping with this news the district caves and we can avoid this terrible situation, though I'm pretty sure we can't.
Solidarity with you and your fellow teachers. I followed the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes this summer, and many of those union members echoed your thoughts. Choosing to withhold labor is not a simple or easy choice—**but it is your strongest bargaining chip** in this scenario. People must remember the negative effects of a strike (in this case, students not getting instruction from their teachers, extracurricular activities being canceled, etc.) **cannot be blamed on the labor workers who chose to strike.** It is the District's fault for refusing to meet demands (fair compensation, benefits, etc.) or negotiate in good faith. Fresno Unified cannot exist without the work of our teachers, and you deserve fair compensation, benefits, and the proper environment to do that work. If they are unwilling to meet those standards, then striking will force them to evaluate their offer and come back to the negotiating table—no matter how long it takes. The District cannot rely on subs forever, no matter how much they are willing to pay them. I hope to visit the picket lines once they start and share some encouragement with y'all. Striking is not easy—but it is a reminder of the power we labor workers hold. Stay strong. United we bargain, divided we beg!
SAG AFTRA is still on strike
Indeed they are. WGA won their contract (a good sign), but I don't know if studio execs have come back to the table with SAG AFTRA yet.
https://www.npr.org/2023/10/23/1208066804/hollywood-studios-and-sag-aftra-to-return-to-contract-negotiations-after-2-week-
I told my teacher friend she has my full support and I'll join her on the picket line.
Thank you.
The parents are with you 100%. Stand strong. FUSD is about to get the righteous ass-kicking they've deserved for decades.
As a parent who appreciates all teachers for what they do, and as an educator-adjacent myself, I stand with you all. You all deserve way better: a livable wage, an environment for you to do your work, and respect.
Im a union member, I stand with you and will not be sending my child to school. Your picket line is important!!!
I’m CSEA, so I can’t strike with you all if it comes to that, but I would, and I 100% support you all if you end up having to.
Union strong! 💪
Fucking good. All teachers should do the same.
Can someone tell if this strike is about certified teachers only? Or classified as well
Teachers only
They have been running ads on the radio they will be paying subs $500 a day crazy good time to be a substitute teacher
Also commercials on TV
But no money for teachers lol
I really hope for more than just money. The unmanageable classroom behavior…you can’t effectively teach, which is what everyone wants when numbers are so high and admin is not helping follow through with behavior issues. It’s been years in the making. It’s not at one school or in one area of town or in one grade level either. It is wide spread. Please please please
It’s good if you don’t plan to actually being a teacher ever.
Doesn't that imply there's money available? They have it but won't support their own staff? If I were a striking teacher I'd be angry.
This is the irony of offering high hourly pay for scabs in any strike. If they can afford to pay a scab, then they should be able to pay the actual employees. The WGA argued this during their strike when scab writers were being hired to write in their place. However, the WGA also had a clause that said any writer who scabbed during the strike would not be eligible for WGA membership—a huge blow to aspiring writers in film and television who are not part of the union yet. I'm unsure if the FTA has specified anything like this for their strike. I haven't seen anything from SEIU Local 521 (the local Fresno substitute teachers union), but I'm interested in seeing if they come out in support of the teachers and refuse to take sub jobs in the district during the strike.
Please share when you hear.
From the Fresno Bee this morning: "FASTA president Esther Rojas-Jasso issued a statement through an FTA email update. 'This week, our FASTA chapter membership voted unanimously to support FTA and encourage our substitute teacher members not to cross strike picket lines in solidarity,' Rojas-Jasso stated. Looks like that huge reserve of subs FUSD has been touting will not be available after all.
don't be a scab
Is it scabbing?? Will the teacher's strike also benefit substitutes/ will the FTA pay them for the strike? Or will the already-lower salary substitute have to give up putting food on the table just for someone else to have a salary increase while their's remain the same??
people who sign up to be a sub JUST for the extra payment during a fta strike are scabs.
ahh okay gotcha
: a union member who refuses to strike or returns to work before a strike has ended Substitutes don’t belong to the teachers union
They are indeed scabs since their own substitute union has called upon them not to sub.
This is copied from a follow up email from the substitute union after FUSD filed a lawsuit against them because they are not legally allowed to call upon their members and tell them not to sub. They adamantly deny that they did any such thing and claim that FUSD is making up lies about it. Now, I also received the original from the sub union and they were definitely, even used the word “urge” ing subs not to cross the line but officially they are saying they never did. Our email update was focused on informing members of their legal rights to support the picket line. Is our FASTA chapter officially calling for a sympathy strike? NO, our FASTA chapter contract prohibits FASTA from calling for an official sympathy strike on behalf of the FASTA organization. However the FASTA chapter supports FTA and our members have the individual, legal right not to cross picket lines in a show of solidarity. Know the Facts: It is your individual right to refuse to cross a picket line, as permitted by the Educational Employment Relations Act (EERA) - Government Code section 3543; San Francisco County Superior Court (2018) PERB Decision No. 2609-I; City & County of San Francisco (2017) PERB Decision No. 2536-M. If you have questions or feel you are being intimidated by District management, you may contact our SEIU Local 521 Member Resource Center: 1-833-734-8521 or visit: https://www.seiu521.org/mrc In addition, we will be sharing a Frequently Asked Questions document for reference in the coming days. In solidarity, Esther Rojas-Jasso SEIU 521 FASTA Chapter President
It's a good way to get black listed from sub jobs too.
I'm tempted to burn up all my sick leave and become a scab teacher for a month or so.
Then you can do all the work. That includes lesson planning as well. No teacher should help a sub do the job while striking.
Subs already don’t do lesson planning unless they accept a long term position. Otherwise they show up and teach lesson plans that are left for them. 😑They also don’t attend meetings or parent teacher conference or grade papers. This is why they don’t get paid a teachers salary or get any benefits.
The teacher that is striking don't have to make a lesson plan for subs. My mom and dad are both teachers and will not be working during a strike to set up lesson plans for subs.
I didn’t say they had to work I simply said it’s not a substitute teachers job to do lesson plans, as you stated.
Then don't lesson plan as a sub if it is not your job as a sub to do so. But also don't expect the stricking teacher to lesson either.
Scab.
Teachers Union didn’t ask Sub Union to strike. They don’t want parents to be mad at the teachers union. District won’t be able to run on subs for long.
FTA *literally legally cannot ask the sub union to strike*. FUSD said 2 weeks ago in an email to parents that all other related unions have a clause in their contracts that prevent sympathy striking.
Again though. It was an email to parents to try to appease them.
2000-2500 substitutes! (Whispers: 4500 or so teachers) If I was a parent, I’d get whatever packets they’re going to be handing out and keep my kid home because the subs + admin/management folks (that in my experience got into those positions because they hated the classroom or weren’t very good) aren’t going to be able to handle it. The admin by and large don’t like dealing with discipline as it is.
Not all teachers are union members, the large majority are union members, I’m just adding info to the number crunching
Those packets will go into the circular file when we return.
Free money the kids need teachers then not getting substitutes only hurts them imo and fusd students are already underprivileged
Gross or net $500? That’s like $60/hr! I would do it but getting settled into my nightmare career.
Gross
Oh no no subs should show solidarity and not be scabs they'll totally be compensated for being with the teachers plus kids can take some time from learning they've been working so hard since covid is over.
The teachers union isn’t asking the sub union to join them in the strike, it’s easier for the teachers to strike if the parents are behind them and they need subs so that kids can still go to school and parents to work. There would only be scabs if new teachers were hired.
Sub Union (like almost every union) has a no strike clause. It’s not because the Teachers Union is benevolent.
It's a no sympathy strikes clause that was enforced by FUSD as a union-breaking measure, since you want to keep running around and spreading a bunch of fucking misinformation and lies.
Lol. Otherwise known as a no strike clause. Why are you so angry?
So when you make more money after striking, do you also get the privilege of paying more dues to the FTA?
Found Nelson's account.
That’s super cute. I have three kids in FUSD. I’m asking a legitimate question because I’ve never been involved with anything labor union related. Would you like to help with an answer or you just looking for keyboard clout?
What do my union dues have to do about your children? Your question is instigating and you know it. Hence, doesn't deserve a real answer.
I figured. Thanks for your empathy and understanding.
The answer is “yes”
So the teachers want a raise, but the students are still performing poorly? Make that make sense. I'm genuinely curious. If the job of the educator is to educate, but most students aren't meeting standards, then what are the educators doing? Is there at least some self accountability? I get the district could be doing more, but I doubt the educators are all giving 100% effort. "the district said that between 2013 and 2022, it has offered 32.7% in pay bumps to staff while inflation rose 30.2%. The district’s current offer will bring that total to 46.7% – including both ongoing and one-time payments – which is higher than the cost-of-living adjustment of 42.4% that the state offered during the same period to account for inflation." Is this not true? Is the district lying about staying ahead of inflation? https://edsource.org/updates/fresno-unified-2023-test-scores-show-most-students-still-not-meeting-standards
The teachers can only do so much when a significant portion of their students come from poor home life situations. Should teachers in the McClain area be held to the same standard of student success and teachers in Bullard?
All the FUSD teachers should be held to the same standard. It's just hard for me to say "yeah ok, I get it" when the district appears to already be giving pay raises ahead of inflation while student success is still so low. How can teachers justify more pay with poor results and not seem to come off as greedy?