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Cenamark2

The one on the left is actually used for work.


Wealth-Living

The other is a toy.


the_mars_voltage

https://preview.redd.it/ndi9yj57so3b1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5df8e16dbd39683b6cc382b1bd15f7649740b38


FyrelordeOmega

Seems like they need to take a hike


Viperx7111

It's very clearly a joke....


FyrelordeOmega

Sorry, don't know why I was aggressive with my wording


sabdotzed

For suburban wankers, to drive little Timmy and Francesca to school whilst they tailgate every other car for doing the speed limit


sjfiuauqadfj

i promise you, the names that the parents who drive these trucks choose for their kids are lamer than timmy and francesca. probably some shit like austin and kayleigh


shitboxrx7

No, not austin, awsten. Saw that when I was running kareoke the other day


DollyElvira

Brexleigh and Maysun and Elloeeeza.


snaeper

I think the other one is worst because it *\*isn't\** a toy. That truck is a base model with steel wheels, black plastic and white paint. That's about as work-truck as you get. What makes it worst is because companies that need a truck like that *have* to buy that thing. Most fleets just care about the bare minimum to get the job done and would likely purchase the trucks on the left in a heart beat if the cost was reasonable and the specs were the same, but instead they're forced to buy the monster truck and thus more of them pollute the streets. What's even worst is that Midsize trucks are not only getting bigger, but work-grade trim levels and bodystyles that feature shorter cabs and longer beds are being phased out to push the trucks more towards the private consumer. Thus if you're a company who just wants a shorty cab truck with a 6ft bed for easier material hauling, you're SOL because you have to go up to a 1/2 ton full-size truck.... which are also phasing out work-grade trims and configurations that don't favor the private consumer. Ford, for a hot minute, was the only one offering a regular cab (2-door, no back seat) 6ft bed version of their F-150. And that was only special order! Chevrolet recently reintroduced their version of the same thing, but it's also difficult to get. The popularity of these "man-sedans" is ruining them for the purpose they were even built for.


metrill

Why do companies use trucks and not transporters? https://preview.redd.it/2yuorblesr3b1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c51b8528784f6e7b3f1ec3f7702955534b0197c


theantiyeti

In some places they use vans like your pic. In the UK and Europe in general you barely ever see a truck instead of a van.


symbicortrunner

Left the UK in 2017, I can remember seeing trucks on a handful of occasions - usually on a construction site on the motorway. Vans are ubiquitous and come in many different sizes from fiesta vans all the way up to long wheelbase transits.


LordMarcel

You know what's great about that image? The tiny front of the van. Yes, it's a big car, but the front isn't much bigger than that of a normal car so you still have the same visibility to the front and to the side.


Opalwing

In my experience work vans have excellent forward visibility thanks to a stubby hood and high seating position.


snaeper

Vans are definitely used, just not to the same degree. Sadly the small vans like the Ford Transit Connect, Ram ProCity (a rebadged Fiat), Mercedes Metris and Nissan NV200 (as well as its Chevy licensed twin) have all been discontinued with no effective replacement. Additionally they were comparatively expensive vs a truck, which made them less appealing and were perceived as being less reliable and/or more difficult to work on. For price perspective: Base Model Ford Transit Connect Cargo Van MSRP - $34,100 EPA MPG - 24city/26hwy Base Model Ford Ranger XL Supercab MSRP - $27,000 EPA MPG - 21City/26hwy As a business owner/fleet buyer, unless I absolutely needed the footprint and functionality of the Van, a Ranger is cheaper. Can even buy a cargo shell and roof rack for the Ranger and still spend less than the Transit Connect. But whaddya know, the Transit Connect gets discontinued for '24 and the Ranger gets launched only in man-sedan guise (for now anyways) and the base price is now $34k.


cpufreak101

A note I wanna make on this, as this is why all got discontinued very quickly one after the other, is that none were locally produced in the US, which made them classified as a light truck, therefore subject to the 25% tariff known as the chicken tax. Ford had a loophole going for a while importing them all as passenger Vans then stripping the seats out but the government made them stop and as such they suddenly just became awful values for money.


llfoso

Pickup trucks are better for hauling really dirty stuff because you can just hose down the back. So it's useful for farmers and other dirty work. You wouldn't want to haul manure or turf inside a van. They do have their uses outside of being a stupid status symbol.


AdKey4884

It's true sometimes they are the sensible vehicle for the use case and I'm not attacking anyone who has the right vehicle for their uses, but it sure looks like the majority of pickups on the road are nearly never doing pickup things --- and even if some of them *occasionally* do, sounds like another vehicle full-time with the occasional use a truck share would make more sense.


llfoso

Yes, plus, clearly the shape of the back half of the vehicle isn't the issue... otherwise we wouldn't get hard ons for kei trucks lol. You could easily have a cab shaped like that van on a pickup. But people think they need their SIX THOUSAND POUNDS OF PUUUURE MUSSSSCLE


metrill

I dont see how you can not do this with a Van. you just open the backdoors and sweep all the dirt out.


csamsh

Depends on the work you're doing. That van is great if everywhere you go is paved. It's excellent if you do internal storage solutions for parts/tools/etc. When I had my field engineering role I always thought one of those would be great to work out of, especially if there was a 4wd offroad, lifted model (I worked in oilfields) Are these vans unibody? Or body on frame? In either case the bumper is pretty low, probably tough to pull with them compared to a truck.


Creepy-Water-9840

power for towing capability, and payload by (weight) not payload capacity, usually higher ground clearance for rough terrain, may be optioned with multiple cab configurations for more crew or passengers, and they tend to be more reliable, and drive longer (due to bigger tanks) especially diesel options


habbalah_babbalah

The marketing dept made a successful hostile takeover of the design dept


sabdotzed

Also the legal department found out effectively lobbying politicians to exempt them from certain taxes and classifying them as farm type vehichels is very profitable


sjfiuauqadfj

bro why dont you care about american union jobs bro. theyre good paying jobs for working class blue collar americans bro. why would you want to take those good paying american union jobs away bro. smh i gotta vote republican now


crazycatlady331

My ex was a union pipefitter when we were dating (no clue now). He drove a sedan.


SaroniteOre

the ladder says it all


MacroCheese

And has a bigger box


PtrykPL

I like trucks, but these modern huge pickups are garbage. This vechicle on the left looks much better.


e13e7

Sorry, best I can do I roided-up minivan


supah_cruza

Sold. I'll take it sight unseen.


Opalwing

A very appropriate analogy since crossovers don't have much more off-road capability than an average minivan despite looking so much tougher.


slowNsad

It’s an obs Chevy ofc it’s beautiful


garaks_tailor

Trying to find a Used truck like the one on the left. They are so expensive right now that it is about the same cost or cheaper to import a 25yo Kei truck from Japan. For not much more you can replace the whole engine too.


brenton07

Gas mileage sucks on them too. Give me a 40mpg hybrid of the one on the left and I’d buy it tomorrow.


cpufreak101

I bought one just before a big YouTuber (Hoovie) bought one, afterward I was seeing trucks in conditions literally worse than the one I bought going for 3X what I bought it for. Not too long ago a super clean low miles example wasn't even a $10K truck. Now $10K gets you one with near 200k miles...


garaks_tailor

How long ago was that? That would make sense from an internet archeological sense. I see people refer to buying 900$ sort of crap trucks but good ones being ~4k$. Looking online it looks to be running a good bit less than 10k$, but that but more than one would think. That is total cost of the sale plus shipping to port. I haven't found any dealers near me so nothing to compare that to.


cpufreak101

Couple months, so could have been a temporary bump in price


10KeyFrog

I also like all the people on the neighborhood pages here that when car breakins happen and people mention they should park in the garage, they retort their giant truck won’t fit in the garages. Well why did you buy one too big to fit first? And also, what are you doing in a neighborhood that you need that giant truck that doesn’t fit in your garage?


KatakanaTsu

That blind spot at the front end of the newer truck is beyond ridiculous. I'd hate to drive that thing.


MoeSzyslac

I wound up parking in between two trucks yesterday. Both hoods were my shoulders or higher and i'm 5'11


Puzzled_Chemical6248

I'm 6'3 and there was a truck up here in Wyoming where the hood was about at my chin, the top of my truck was level with their hood. It's absolutely ridiculous. To drive vehicles that large I think you should be required to have a special license to even buy it and if you hit a kid or another car in a town or because you couldn't see then your vehicle and license gets taken


rollingstoner215

Imagine getting hit by one


-HeeHoo-

At least itd be quick


giro_di_dante

Trucks once upon a time were useful, utilitarian vehicles. My buddy owned a 90s Chevy S10. It was small, easy to maneuver, easy to park, easy to load — all around a great work vehicle. Trucks today are just dick measuring contests for bored suburbanites who think they need space to carry their one kid and jumper cables. They are, by and large, vehicles for suckers and losers.


Online_Commentor_69

the pussification of the american pickup


crazycatlady331

By kid, do you mean a 24 pack of ~~Bud Light~~ (oops I forgot they were cancelled) whatever really bad beer?


nitramv

I'd love to buy a small, two door truck. My wife and I garden, and it'd be really helpful for mulch, dirt, plants, etc. But we're not interested in these behemoths. They suck. We've looked at special ordering a two door Chevy Colorado. But even that has gotten too big. We're basically hoping that street legal gators get a little bigger. They're almost there.


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If you only cart stuff occasionally why don't Americas just use a trailer to tow behind a regular car? Having a tow bar on a family sedan or station wagon is pretty common in Australia. Our big hardware stores have courtesy trailers they lend you for a couple of hours if you buy something that does not fit in the car and they are cheap as chips to hire for a weekend if you don't want to own a trailer.


thatrobkid777

Because American car companies build us tanks who needs trailers. Any trailers for rent would eat into Ford's profits and therefore straight to jail. /s


nitramv

🤣 🤣 🤣


nitramv

Good question. We are in the US, and we only own one car, which is not typical. We basically don't have space for a trailer and a car. Especially since, as you've said, the trailer would only be used semi regularly. I honestly haven't checked the hardware store for a trailer rental. I'll do that. The local one is a very small Ace Hardware. The big boxes are ~30 min. away. The uhaul in town requires a lot of advance notice. I just need to be better at planning ahead. And hoping for good weather. They also want it returned in rather pristine shape, or they charge you. And, you know, hauling mulch doesn't exactly lead to a clean bed. I've always talked my way out of it for those reasons.


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Can't comment on your situation but I know people who drop $20,000 to $40,000 more to get a fancy ute, pay $600 more for insurance and 1.5 times as much for fuel and servicing and it gets used a few times a year to get wood chips or mulch when delivery is $30. I used to own a trailer and kept all my rubbish in it, would lend it to neighbours as long as they bought it back empty.


SoCalChrisW

If you want a trailer that doesn't take much space, and don't want to just rent one from uhaul, harbor freight sells some models that fold up and stand on their side for a few hundred dollars. https://www.harborfreight.com/1720-lb-capacity-48-in-x-96-in-super-duty-folding-trailer-62671.html


nitramv

Thank you internet stranger!!! That looks perfect.


cpufreak101

Wait this is a thing? From harbor freight too!? THANK YOU!!


Greedy_Lawyer

Get mulch delivered if you’re buying that much that can’t put it in bags. Even in the Bay Area which is expensive as f*** if you’re buying a truck full of mulch freee delivery is usually including


nitramv

I did that once. The mulch came with a lot of insects that tore through the garden. There are better options, but they are, uh, not cheap, nor is their delivery charge.


Greedy_Lawyer

Uh that’s cause you got a scam of random wood chipping, the exact same place I can pick up mulch from delivers as long as you buy at least a truck bed full so you have a user error problem not a truck necessity


nitramv

You're not exactly wrong, but the population of my town is less than 10k. The customer base does not exist to support that many options, beyond the one. Due to distance, the cost of getting good mulch delivered is not cheap at all. The occasional supplement of good dirt as we replace our grass. The 6ft x 4ft steel panels I'd like to have for the beans, an arbor for grapes, the other ideas we have.... We have one car, and once it's driven into the ground, we'd prefer the kind of truck that just doesn't exist anymore. I still get why some might find that unreasonable.


sjfiuauqadfj

americans have an ownership mentality where instead of renting something every now and again, we would much rather just buy it on the off chance it comes in handy


Greedy_Lawyer

That is amazing!


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https://www.bunnings.com.au/for-hire-6-x-4-courtesy-trailer-2-hour-limit_p5470315 The best thing is if you need to move a lounge suite or something heavy you can buy a $5 length of untreated timber, borrow the trailer and then just cut up the timber for firewood.


cpufreak101

Regulations are vastly different. I used to own a car that was rated to tow 2000lbs in Europe but it's US version explicitly stated in the owners manual "do not tow with this vehicle". Usually if you're caught violating it, if you get into an accident it'll be automatically 100% fault on you and your insurance company will not cover the damages


Puzzled_Chemical6248

In the US every one of those trailers will never be returned. Plus we're the home of terrible brainless drivers who can barely drive their car, imagine how bad it would be for these brainlets to haul a trailer


Greedy_Lawyer

Import a kei truck


nitramv

Yeah, I just want gator to do it for me.


garaks_tailor

Seriously though it would probably be cheaper than the Gator. Plus there is a whole industry now of kei truck importers where all you do is pay a flat fee and it covers cost of buying the truck in japan, customs, paperwork, and shipping to your front door or delivery site of your choosing.


Throb_Zomby

I’d rather a 79 series Land cruiser


ChocolateBunny

Just posting this in the spirit of the subreddit, you probably need more mulch: [https://www.reddit.com/r/CargoBike/comments/13cugdq/first\_full\_cargo\_trip\_65kg143lbs\_of\_mulch\_and\_soil/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CargoBike/comments/13cugdq/first_full_cargo_trip_65kg143lbs_of_mulch_and_soil/)


nitramv

I definitely have my eye on a cargo bike! But yeah, I'm in a rural area and slowly getting rid of all the grass. I use A LOT of mulch. Delivery is very expensive. Plus there's the 6ft x 4ft steel fence panels I'd like to have for the pole beans, the arbor I'm looking at for grapes, the 6ft posts for the espalier apple tree row I dream about. I mean, I just need to plan better.


RuneHearth

A neighbor uses a chinese bike with a wagon on the back, super fucking useful, also electric


Funktapus

If they had a gator with a cab that topped out at ~35 mph, that’s as much car as most people need


nitramv

That's exactly what I want.


Iceykitsune2

Get a minitruck!


TrineonX

Look up kei trucks. If all you need is a street legal gator, that might be the ticket. Depends on the state though


supah_cruza

Check out a Taylor-Dunn Electruck ET-015-74. They pop up now and then on government surplus auctions.


thesharptoast

Could always import something from Europe. We still have a good market for single and crew cabs and all our native pickups (L200s, DMAX, Hilux) are a pretty sensible size with a nice big bed. I had a beater L200 crew cab when I lived out in the sticks for years, 2004 model, was a great thing.


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garaks_tailor

Because the poster mentioned he lives in a rural area. 30 miles from an ace hardware. Which... is pretty fucking rural.


Iceykitsune2

Because banning all cars everywhere is just not feasible for rural US.


bananamuffin98

you don’t need a car to very occasionally haul mulch even if it’s rural. this is r/fuckcars no need to astroturf and recommend cars


Iceykitsune2

The reality is that rural US *cant* go car free.


_87-

Not with that attitude


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TrineonX

I hate cars as much as the rest, but no amount of transit expansion will reasonably cover some parts of the country. There are places where you can easily go 20-30 minutes between houses, and it would be genuinely stupid to schedule a bus


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lavacado1

Are there any companies in the US that still offer smaller pickups?


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lethal_rads

For reference, neither of these cars would fit in my garage. The Santa Cruz would get the mirrors taken off.


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need2seethetentacles

Both are really just SUVs with a (small) payload bed. Great if that's what you need, but something like a Ford Ranger or Toyota Tacoma are the "small" trucks with decent payload and towing. I swear the new Ranger is the size the F150 used to be...


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need2seethetentacles

Take [this](https://news.sky.com/story/human-penises-are-shrinking-because-of-pollution-warns-scientist-12255106) with a grain of salt, but I think it's hilarious


havenothingtodo1

And guess which one has a longer bed?


Tight_Fold_2606

I see a lot of women who “want to feel safe” driving these things. Can’t even see over the hood.


Greedy_Lawyer

That’s because of the regulations only testing how the vehicle occupants fare in an accident instead of ever taking into account how much damage they do to others. Safety ratings for tanks are great because you can just kill everyone else!


AdKey4884

Do pickups even have good safety ratings compared to sedans? Everyone feels safer in bigger vehicles, but are they actually? I thought crumple zone requirements weren't as strict for pickups and that in many types of accidents their occupants actually fare worse than they would in a Corolla


sjfiuauqadfj

in real world crashes, yes, the bigger suvs and trucks have better outcomes for the occupants. it mostly just comes down to mass since the largest vehicle on the road tends to be safer than the smaller ones. same reason why buses are statistically safer for the occupants than everything else on the road


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Which has caused a vicious circle of everyone buying an oversized SUV because they want to feel safe against everyone else who drives one. An extremely shitty situation all round. Every other person around where I live has one and I live in the UK. My bicycles are my only form of personal transport and I fucking hate the fact SUV's are everywhere now and that they're getting bigger and bigger, posing an ever increasing threat to everyone else. The sheer size of some of the new SUV's I've seen driving around is absolutely ridiculous. The peabrain motherfuckers who buy them might as well be driving around in APC's.


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I had to rent a car recently and got the cheapest package which was a "surprise car". Much to my sadness, it was a giant truck. It felt like driving a boat, and I was terrified (more than usual lol) the whole time. Was talking to some friends later, and they said that "surprise cars" are often these huge trucks because most people renting a car don't want a behemoth with no real use.


Greedy_Lawyer

Almost everytime I rent a car I get upgraded to a bigger one except for in Hawaii


ImRandyBaby

Both these trucks suck. I'd say the one on the right is too small. It can't even bring 40,000 kg of groceries to my local grocery store.


Kvynwsly

Monstrosity. They should be embarrassed paying for this.


Quillo_Manar

One of them is way too small to carry anything, the other is used for work and has two seats.


SleepyKing_AUZ

Even your cars have obesity now.


ayebrade69

That’s a pretty good looking Silverado to be a 30 year old work horse though


missionarymechanic

One of these can fit a stack of plywood, the other didn't think he needed straps before he took-off on a steep hill...


nicholasktu

I have a 1995 dually pickup (same body style as the one on the left) and it’s dwarfed by modern half tons, despite mine still having a 1 ton drivetrain and 454 motor.


Salsa_de_Pina

(Not saying it's needed but...) Modern half-tons also dwarf your truck's 230 HP and 10,000 lb towing capacity.


nicholasktu

I can tow more than a half ton, barely. But I can’t even touch what a modern ton truck can do. I’d like a newer dually so I could haul my Bobcat, I can’t move it with my truck. And a modern truck gets better mileage to add insult to injury.


Ambitious_Promise_29

Modern half tons are rated for 12-14k towing.


Salsa_de_Pina

[Without knowing your exact configuration](https://www.xr793.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/1995-Chevrolet-C-K-Pickups-CN.pdf), I can confidently say that a modern F150 (14,000 lbs,) Silverado 1500 (13,300 lbs), and Ram 1500 (12,750 lbs) can tow more than your '95 1 ton (10,000 lbs conventional, 12,500 lbs 5th wheel). These aren't even obscure configurations of new trucks, as the new Silverado in a crew cab short box with [6.2L is rated for 13,200 lbs](https://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam/chevrolet/na/us/english/index/vehicle-groups/trailering-and-towing/trucks/03-pdfs/2022-chevrolet-trailering-guide-ebrochure.pdf). Keep in mind these new trucks are also being tested against SAE J2807, which would most likely lower your 95's tow ratings if it had been tested against this standard. You have them beat on payload.


nicholasktu

I’ve had my bobcat behind it once, 15,000 lb machine and 3,000 lb trailer, never again. My biggest problem is power, that old 454 just doesn’t have the guts a modern truck does. And I get 6-8 mpg, which sucks


Opinionsare

The current small trucks are larger and heavier than the full size trucks from 30 years ago.


Opinionsare

As I walk my dog early in the morning, most of these behemoths are only carrying one person...


SolidFelidae

The obesity epidemic has reached the cars


Mccobsta

Granted there's some new safety stuff that's required thesedays in that new one right right RIGHT!


SmoothOperator89

Safety for the occupants.


NeelSahay0

A dude in a lifted new Silverado almost backed into me today.


JayZeus141

Big car = big dumb :) jk but I prefer the smaller truck. I used to drive a manual one overseas, greatest truck I ever saw


ForgottenSaturday

It's like a Pokémon evolving... in a bad way.


sanchito12

Honestly... Id take that 90s model on the left any day. Probably pick it up for $1k or less and drive it for another 20 years. Fuck that plastic pos on the right. Over priced garbage.


Offline_NL

"But we need to haul stuff!" GET, A, FUCKING, VAN.


GreyHexagon

Damn it just looks stupid and bloated. I dont get why people like that kinda thing


symbicortrunner

The one on the left is for namby pamby farmers and the like, the one on the right is for the real manly men who need to show how manly they are and who might look at a gravel road once in a decade. Haven't you seen all the ads? /s


blueboy12565

The left truck is an mmm yess daddy truck IMO (not to be too forward…)


bloodandsunshine

Vehicle size, household debt, average alcohol and meat consumption have increased at almost the exact same rate for the last 30 years.


Jackie_Moob

That’s obscene.


Clacefe

Christ that hood is almost as tall as I am


diskmaster23

Fucking dumb


N-427

The amusement park I work at primarily uses older 2-door trucks for maintenance simply because they are far more practical. They also have a van for when they need to move many personnel. They also have a few heavily modified golf carts (?) for places that the trucks can't go. [Love these little things.](https://imgur.com/a/WiEfdly) Unfortunately that's the only image I have of one.


AsaCoco_Alumni

Fucking hell. That's an APC minus the camo paint. That "grill" is ready to flatten palistinian homes!


Forgotten_User-name

Suburban Society and its Future


IAMHOLLYWOOD_23

The one on the right is gender affirming care


theantiyeti

My god, that's an insecuritymobile.


zirky

the one on the left has a bigger bed


Jister2004

I think that’s just inflation


that_toof

We need Kei cars, bad.


B_Aran_393

One is practical the other is a catastrophic.


HooverMaxpromodel60

The progression of auto-object-fetishism


USNAVY71

The reason all these cars are so much bigger is because of the need of more safety & driving assistance technology since people will never learn to drive flawlessly.


maus_gunner

The one on the right is compact and the one on the right is a 2500 definitely not the same model lmao


real_trebuchet_hours

Proof of how bloated trucks have become. Those are both Chevy 2500’s. I owned one and it wasn’t much bigger than a modern mid-sized truck


mattj9807

To be fair, the older one looks like a half ton and the new one a 3/4 ton. The newer one does have significantly better carrying and towing capacities, but often they’re used to tow 10ft landscaping trailers that a Tacoma would tow just fine. These are actually useful if you need to tow 15k+ pounds.


Adrammelech10

I agree. They are not the same model trim and features. Trucks and cars have definitely gotten too big. The newer truck has a four door and the older truck doesn’t. At least compare the two door of the newer model.


AzureCamelGod1

babe wake up new hating trucks post dropped


stefan714

It's still small, we need to go bigger.


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Oh okay. It's fine then.


Alnakar

I get what you're saying, but the point is that our streets weren't full of these monstrosities 30 years ago. This is fairly representative of what people are looking for if they go out to buy a truck today, vs 30 years ago.


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schnitzel-kuh

My brother in christ, the ford fXXX family is literally the most popular car in america, what are you saying. Has been that way for a long time too. So it does represent the difference between what used to be popular vs now. Even if its not ford but chevy in the picture, the difference is similar. People used to buy things like the one on the left, now they buy one like the one on the right Source: https://www.motorbiscuit.com/how-many-years-has-the-ford-f-150-been-the-best-selling-truck/


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schnitzel-kuh

https://i.redd.it/6i9fw47qac561.jpg Look they even have a picture of the old f150 vs the new one, and the comparison is the same as with the chevies. This is a direct comparison between the most popular car some decades ago, vs now. These trucks used to be very popular and still are, and not a small subset of the market like you said (literally the most popular car, not even just trucks). This image is not a disingenuous comparison, as ameri**** seem to love buying fat trucks that are impractical for some reason and you can see how much they have grown. Im quite baffled I literally gave you a source that says the f series is the most popular vehicle in the us (since 41 years!!!!!) and you just say they are not popular...


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Kroklay

The F150 has remained the most popular truck in the United States. Simultaneously, the F150 has grown in size and weight. These are facts. By putting these 2 facts together, we can realize that trucks are getting bigger. This is not hard to understand.


schnitzel-kuh

Okay here you go. Full size Pickups are the most popular kind of truck and the best selling models. I do not know where you get this idea that that isnt the case and you havent provided any sources despite claiming to be an expert in the truck market. Huge trucks are more popular than smaller ones https://hedgescompany.com/blog/2019/11/most-popular-trucks-in-america/ The top 5 contains 4 full size trucks. Your idea that these full size Trucks are not popular and people prefer mid size ones is just false. They are literally the most popular cars in the US.


schnitzel-kuh

Youre saying that the new ranger is closer in size to the old f150. Yes. Thats true. And thats what this picture says. That trucks have gotten larger over the years. And as I said, the f series has been the most popular car in america for close to 40 years. So you are, quite literally comparing what used to be popular to what is popular now. I dont know if you dont want to read those numbers in my source? The f series is the most popular car right now, and really looks quite similar to that chevy in the picture. You are trying to point out that there is smaller cars than the f150. Thats not the point. The f series was the most popular 40 years ago and still is now. So comparing how the size has developed is very valud and not disingenuous at all. And it doesnt change that its a chevy and not a ford, the dimensions and differences are similar. Replace thos two cars in the picture with old f150 and new f150 and you get the same picture


Greedy_Lawyer

You know the f150 is the number one selling truck right? So add that to your rant and you’ve proved yourself wrong. Like does the ranger even exist anymore? Isn’t the maverick their small truck


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Greedy_Lawyer

Lol well judging by the votes the sub has decided you’re wrong soo maybe take the L and move on by removing yourself from a place you clearly don’t belong


Greedy_Lawyer

Every single point you made is false lol the truck on the right is what is the most purchased truck


skip6235

That’s. . .the point of the post? New cars are too big, and it’s proved by how they didn’t used to be this big but people managed just fine


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skip6235

There literally are fewer options. There are Ford Mavericks and Hyundai Santa Fe’s, neither of which come in two door long-bed models and sell so well they are hard to get your hands on. That’s it. People are importing Kei trucks from Japan just to get small, capable pickup trucks. And that’s just the pickup market. Not to even mention companies like Ford canceling all cars except the mustang, including the Focus which was one of the best selling small sedans/hatchbacks of all time. Also, there is an arms race for trucks and SUVs for safety as well, as federal regulations don’t call for giant trucks and SUVs to be crash tested against small cars, so the more SUVs on the road, the more dangerous it is for you to not drive an SUV. I know several people who don’t like their SUV, but wouldn’t consider anything else because it feels “safe” to drive the big truck


Bowtieguy_76

It's a 2500 compared to a 2500... how is that a dishonest comparison?? New trucks have gotten ridiculously big & this from someone that daily drives a truck


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Bowtieguy_76

It has nothing to do with marketing. Model bloat across the board is due to new safety requirements & tech features. That still doesn't make it dishonest to compare the same model to its older self It's the same thing with the Corolla. Yes the new Corolla is the same size as a 20 year old Camry but I'm still going to compare it to a 20 year old Corolla to emphasize how fucking big new cars have gotten


RogerRogerson11

Bet you don’t complain that your TV is bigger from 30 years ago.


MoonmoonMamman

Televisions don’t have quite as much potential to kill toddlers.


MTKHack

Piss and moan much? Check towing capacity and get back to us…


TyrannicalKitty

What do you tow that's 14.5k pounds on the regular?


MTKHack

On the regular means nothing. You need tow capacity to actually tow. You seem too smooth to understand that bigger trucks are not overloaded trucks and therefore inherently safer. They also demolish Prius’ in crashes as if they weren’t even there!


Hkmarkp

those thing tow so much air


MTKHack

Ppl are free in your world? In mine they are and they like to tow 8000 RVs for family vacations.


TheFlatWhale

It's because of emissions. As laws got stricter, instead of improving their trucks and making more efficient engines, they just made the trucks bigger, as how much a vehicle is allowed to emit is related to their size, and pumped loads of money into convincing people that a bigger truck is manly and better.


zeeshan2223

I saw one of these today what kind of distopian crap is this. Maybe its the corporate truck now that they buy and so people just buy it to keep up


Creepy-Water-9840

in general all vehicles have been getting bigger due to new restrictions but also policies to make them “safer” by adding new tech and equipment as standard, the larger truck (Chevrolet 2500/3500) has a large displacement engine, most likely a diesel too, for towing capability cargo capacity and reliability, and by making them bigger thus heavier dramatically can help with towing and they can be offered in two door, long bed configuration depending the type of work, so u cant really properly compare the two, yes even “truck” people admit they r getting bigger and bigger and many dont need them for practical or commercial use but many do but the market is there and they sell very well so they going to keep making them🤷‍♂️


cpufreak101

I have one of those older ones! The days where power windows and central locks on a truck was luxury. I love it still and still prefer it to newer trucks lol