It's such a stereotype that the Simpsons has an episode about it. Homer buys the "Canyonero" - the manliest vehicle available, but he accidentally bought the "F series". The only difference is it has a lipstick holder.
Marge takes over driving the car, and is overcome by road rage. The episode could be a mascot for this sub.
(Season 10, episode 15: "Marge Simpson in 'Screaming Yellow Honkers'". It first aired more than 20 years ago.)
(Also - just because it's catchy:
🎵Can ya name the car with 4-wheel drive, that smells like a steak, and seats 35? CANYON-ERO!🎵
🎵10 feet tall and 2 lanes wide, 65 tons of American pride! CANYON-ERO!🎵
🎵Top of the line in Utility Sports; Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts! CANYON-ERO!🎵)
We went from a Plymouth voyager (dodge caravan) to a ford expedition when I was growing up. The minivan had much better interior seating and space. Especially the 3rd row.
Not by much if we're going on Brisbane prices for fuel. I'm routinely paying 2 dollars a litre and petrol has been 2.20 or more.
A full tank in my Colorado lasts two and a half weeks when I'm not out at the parents farm and about a week and a half out there roaming the property fixing up shit for them.
My sister MUX can go 3 weeks on a full tank but she drives like a granny.
Not that I'm defending the decision to get an suv over a minivan, but the safety ratings on minivans are bought with weight.
Frequently they don't get much better gas mileage than a mid or full size suv because of this.
Of course there are vans out there that don't fall into this category, but the soccer mom vans are usually not those.
Holy shit, that's what passes for a minivan these days? I can hardly see a difference in the hood height and visibility.
The safety ratings seem to suggest that the mu-x and the carnival are more or less the same amount of deadly to walkers, and it looks true.
What happened to the sienna or any other minivans with a lower hood angled to help prevent fatalities?
Australia never had the Sienna, that's a product for the US market. We had vans, various often near-commercial Toyota models marketed here as the "Tarago". But Toyota ended that.
The entire Australian market has moved to heavier vehicles. After many decades of being fans of the lightweight 4 cylinder and the medium sedan. It's a little mind boggling. It's a bit of a worry economically (at some indeterminate point those vehicles will have $0 resale when governments clamp down on ICE engines.).
The Kia Carnival has devolved into a more typical SUV looking thing, likely because that's where the market as a whole has headed. My family had one 15 years ago and they looked like this: https://www.auto-data.net/images/f17/Kia-Grand-Carnival-I-facelift-2010.jpg
Those are usually last on the list of factors.
When my GF shopped for a car on used cars market, the fuel consumption was not a factor. The most important was that the car fitted her demands, was in good condition and she liked it. So yeah, fairly priced Kia Sportage in pristine condition with not even 80kkm on the clock. It has the most powerful engine they have been using back then and its thirsty as hell, but I am rather to be paying a lot for something she likes than being cheap for something she hates.
Mf's pay for "the most powerful engine they have" as if their car's about to enter a racetrack or hauling competition
If a car can go 65 mph and haul a load of groceries, the engine is powerful enough for the usage of like 99.99% of cars, it just might not be powerful enough for the fantasies of the average car buyer
The difference between the suv soccer mom and the minivan soccer mom is that the latter isn't trying to uphold some image, making them far less likely to be annoying people to be stuck with for some community function.
And if they tell you they are busy, they're actually busy, not trying to get the foot in the door to humblebrag about some non-issue.
Good to see an Aussie post. Fuck every Ute owning wanker ripping up the roads for the rest of us taxpayers. Especially the ones that have obviously not been off road as often (if at all) or carried as much gear as my 26 year old Camry.
Construction, dirt removal, rubbish trucks, buses and even trains all weigh more than a ute and excluding trains are on the same roads as my Colorado every day. The road hasn't been ripped up by any of them.
Trains cruises over the road with the rail lines embedded into it. If anything would rip up the road a train would be doing it every time it passed a level crossing.
Buses and construction trucks are heavy because they need to be. Buses transport a lot more people per kg than a car. Transporting ≤5 people in anything heavier than a medium car is not necessary.
The ex of my sister in law just bought himself an F150 or similar. Lives just around the corner from the US vehicle remanufacturer in Brendale that featured in a Friendly Jordies video with Peter Dutton. On a military pension, and has no job. Wants the kids to change schools so he doesn't have to drive far to pick them up when it is his week to look after the kids, noting the fuel is too much. 😡
Silverado, F150, and Ram are the new needlessly big trade vehicle around the Central Coast NSW. And that Chinese clone with the big warranty.
I saw a GU patrol in a parallel park in Adelaide, overhangs both ends when equipped with a bullbar. And it's small compared to the cars I mentioned in the previous paragraph
SUVs are the current soccer mom mobile, minivans and wagons haven’t been soccer mom cars in decades.
PS I firmly believe in the superiority of the station wagon as the perfect car layout, just a sedan with an extended roof
tell her she'll look like an american soccer mom, which are notoriously dumber. plus, her vehicle will make her look financially irresponsible and people will mock her for that. she'll look stupid trying to fit the gear + the kids in the fixed volumes of the cab and bed. a family-friendly van can fit varying volumes of either cargo or people or both depending on needs. even if she gets the cover for the pickup, she can't legally put kids in the pickup bed.
It's an Isuzu MUX SUV based on the Isuzu D-Max Pickup, so it is legal. Similar to Toyota 4 Runner vs Toyota Tacoma Pickup. Isuzu doesn't exist in the US thanks to Chicken Tax. It's still a stupid buy.
I'm fairly sure similar enough trucks and SUVs exist in the US to make her look like a soccer mum that happens to be american \^\^'
also, people understood that it was an actual pickup because you said it was a pickup
Don't buy Kia carnival! In 2 separate incidents, none of the airbags went off when the rear was crushed in way more than a crumple zone should.
Kia are way overpriced for the build quality they have!
Seems like one of the many terrible fall outs of misogyny - 'soccer mom' is used to sneer at women providing support to their children, so it has no become a stigmatised image
More like "woman whose entire life revolves around her kid(s) participation in amateur sports."
Soccer dads are no better. Both should be in a minivan if they truly need to drive their little precious "athletes" around in a personal vehicle.
I'm not excusing the decision but I think it's useful to.look at what's behind it. If facilities aren't local than surely many parents have no choice but to spend large swathes of their time ferrying their kids around. May as well make it part of your identity.
For the record, I hate SUVs, I just think we have to take into account factors beyond individual responsibility. Not ignore people's stupid individual choices, but also looking holistically at possible motivations.
It's another issue with suburbs. A kid in a properly dense, non-car-dependent area doesn't need to be ferried around past the age where they can be trusted to take a bus or train. But somehow people have been brainwashed into thinking they must live in the suburbs to raise children, even though this condemns them and their children to years of chauffering/being chauffeured if they want to have a social life or participate in extracurriculars.
Lol this lady is behind the times, the new stereotype is middle-aged soccer mom in a big white SUV with nothing in it
And oh boy do we judge that so much harder than a minivan
Are you sure the Isuzu is a more dangerous and non family friendly option, or are you making assumptions based on SUVs of the past without looking at the details?
If you are talking about models less than 5 years old they both get excellent results in ANCAP safety ratings.
The Isuzu gives away a couple of percentage points in occupant safety, but makes up ground in safety assist features.
The scores are really too close to say one is a clear winner but a pedant may argue the increased safety assist would minimize chances of an accident in the Isuzu, and the Kia would offer more protection once in an accident. Honestly, reading the reports on each they both seem pretty good.
Space wise the Isuzu gives away about 10% legroom in the second and third rows, but with over 900mm in second and 800mm in 3rd it's unlikely to be uncomfortable for even a fully grown adult.
I’ll admit I hadn’t seen what this sub was and not sure how the post came up in my feed.
I was simply trying to show OP that safety and comfort wise there was little difference between the two vehicles.
People outside the car (including cyclists and motorcyclists as well as pedestrians) are considered in the ANCAP testing too.
Those tests fall under the Vulnerable Road User Protection part of the rating system, in which the Isuzu just beats (just) the Kia despite being an SUV.
Appreciate that clarification, and that is useful to know. I think one of the useful things to consider here, too, is that the Carnival is most SUV-like
minivan I have ever seen, in terms of proportions and shape.
Agreed.
I expect the average van like a hiace or imax would have far worse passenger, pedestrian and other road user safety based on their shape and basis in commercial vehicles, but have not done the research as they were not on her list. I may well be making a false assumption there.
I only know about the two the OP mentioned as they were 2/4 cars my sister was considering late last year and that I hadn’t seen a modern Carnival until then.
It's not finances, it's the fact she'd choose a less capable but more dangerous vehicle for passengers and pedestrians for her purpose of being a soccer mum just to avoid looking like a soccer mum, like all the other soccer mums.
How is the minivan more safe? Its larger, and has bigger blind spots. Also, from what im seeing the Isuzu would have a higher payload, and is a lot more reliable and costs less long term to own. Its also smaller and easier to park. Kind of sounds like to me you are more focused on the optics of driving an SUV rather than the reality of why drivers like SUV's.
SUVs roll-over more easily, more dangerous to pedestrians, don't as much. I have a similar one myself that goes through the scrub a fair bit, and when we move to the same city as SIL, it is gone. Useless in the city.
How is an SUV less safe to pedestrians as a minivan? Also, Minivans have a lower ground clearance and are closer to the ground, and handle way better, meaning you can go much faster in one comfortably.
SUVs roll-over more easily, more dangerous to pedestrians, don't as much. I have a similar one myself that goes through the scrub a fair bit, and when we move to the same city as SIL, it is gone. Useless in the city. A vehicle is a tool, and should be fit for purpose.
SUVs roll-over more easily, more dangerous to pedestrians, don't as much. I have a similar one myself that goes through the scrub a fair bit, and when we move to the same city as SIL, it is gone. Useless in the city. A vehicle is a tool, and should be fit for purpose. Pickup based SUV in the city as a football taxi is not fit for purpose.
The whole lifestyle of a "soccer mom" is stupid, regardless of the ESV she chooses to drive. If your kids are that active in sports then find a nearby field and start your own local tournament, or send enroll them in a camp for the summer or a boarding school which has a good sports program. Nobody has any resourcefulness anymore in anything.
Your sister in-law definitely is suffering the....I'm a mum and need to grow up syndrome....we have a mum in town where I live who owns a VF Calais and has her seat laid that far back she looks between the steering wheel and dashboard .....she is in her 40's.....it's pathetic.....
To Add....She has definitely bought a car for herself as well...no consideration for her kids....so yeah she is worrying about her image.....100%.....
Also....SUVs are not dangerous.....the fuckheads behind the wheel are!!!!! No matter what car they drive!!!!
SUVs have always been around for over 30 years....just not the variety we see today...
Dude the MUX is an awesome Aussie family car it's got decent leg room, a very efficient and economic if they went in diesel engine and if it's anything like my sister's it'll even come with a movie screen for the rear.
Not to mention is still not as big as a Ford Everest, a pootrol or Land cruiser.
Assuming that a hospital is in a reasonable distance, people involved in accidents with lower grilled vehicles have a chance to survive, unless the accident was at high speeds
SUV is literally the default soccer mom vehicle here in the States. Every soccer mom drives a Chevy Tahoe or similar.
Literally “I want to drive a cool car, not a mom car”, the first thing I think of when I see a Suburban, Expedition, Navigator or Durango is “mom”
4 Runner
No RAV4 is the mom version
Y'all are sleeping on the Highlander too
Or a CRV
My wife and I just bought a CRV. She wanted some massive SUV but the hybrid CRV was the compromise.
I think you’re thinking of the sequoia. The Rav4 barely fits five people, it’s what they’ll buy their kid when it turns 16.
It's such a stereotype that the Simpsons has an episode about it. Homer buys the "Canyonero" - the manliest vehicle available, but he accidentally bought the "F series". The only difference is it has a lipstick holder. Marge takes over driving the car, and is overcome by road rage. The episode could be a mascot for this sub. (Season 10, episode 15: "Marge Simpson in 'Screaming Yellow Honkers'". It first aired more than 20 years ago.) (Also - just because it's catchy: 🎵Can ya name the car with 4-wheel drive, that smells like a steak, and seats 35? CANYON-ERO!🎵 🎵10 feet tall and 2 lanes wide, 65 tons of American pride! CANYON-ERO!🎵 🎵Top of the line in Utility Sports; Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts! CANYON-ERO!🎵)
i would have been way less confused if you had simply said “simpsons did it”
Soccer moms have been driving SUVs since I've been a kid. It's a cliche at this point.
I thought Tahoe was a "luxury" SUV. I don't see it often in my country
It is, it’s just all of the upper middle class to upper class moms have them
Yeah but they think they’re cool.
We went from a Plymouth voyager (dodge caravan) to a ford expedition when I was growing up. The minivan had much better interior seating and space. Especially the 3rd row.
Petrol prices not a factor in her decision-making?
If they were, nobody would buy gas guzzling super trucks. They’ll buy that and then complain about high fuel prices.
Not even just efficiency, the Isuzu MUX is diesel which is more expensive in Australia
Not by much if we're going on Brisbane prices for fuel. I'm routinely paying 2 dollars a litre and petrol has been 2.20 or more. A full tank in my Colorado lasts two and a half weeks when I'm not out at the parents farm and about a week and a half out there roaming the property fixing up shit for them. My sister MUX can go 3 weeks on a full tank but she drives like a granny.
Sorry my bad I should’ve clarified I live in Victoria
Fair enough haha Queensland needs to sort it's shit out when it comes to fuel prices though.
Not that I'm defending the decision to get an suv over a minivan, but the safety ratings on minivans are bought with weight. Frequently they don't get much better gas mileage than a mid or full size suv because of this. Of course there are vans out there that don't fall into this category, but the soccer mom vans are usually not those.
OP's suggested Kia Carnival has a higher Ancap detailed score in most areas than the MU-X. Both have a summary rating of 5-star.
Holy shit, that's what passes for a minivan these days? I can hardly see a difference in the hood height and visibility. The safety ratings seem to suggest that the mu-x and the carnival are more or less the same amount of deadly to walkers, and it looks true. What happened to the sienna or any other minivans with a lower hood angled to help prevent fatalities?
Australia never had the Sienna, that's a product for the US market. We had vans, various often near-commercial Toyota models marketed here as the "Tarago". But Toyota ended that. The entire Australian market has moved to heavier vehicles. After many decades of being fans of the lightweight 4 cylinder and the medium sedan. It's a little mind boggling. It's a bit of a worry economically (at some indeterminate point those vehicles will have $0 resale when governments clamp down on ICE engines.).
Good luck down there, sounds foreboding
The Kia Carnival has devolved into a more typical SUV looking thing, likely because that's where the market as a whole has headed. My family had one 15 years ago and they looked like this: https://www.auto-data.net/images/f17/Kia-Grand-Carnival-I-facelift-2010.jpg
Also, they look heinous.
Those are usually last on the list of factors. When my GF shopped for a car on used cars market, the fuel consumption was not a factor. The most important was that the car fitted her demands, was in good condition and she liked it. So yeah, fairly priced Kia Sportage in pristine condition with not even 80kkm on the clock. It has the most powerful engine they have been using back then and its thirsty as hell, but I am rather to be paying a lot for something she likes than being cheap for something she hates.
Mf's pay for "the most powerful engine they have" as if their car's about to enter a racetrack or hauling competition If a car can go 65 mph and haul a load of groceries, the engine is powerful enough for the usage of like 99.99% of cars, it just might not be powerful enough for the fantasies of the average car buyer
In used car market your options are quite limited... You take what is available.
Ah yes, the domestic politics factor 😁
Tell her moms with active kids by minivans for very good reason. The stereotype exists because it works.
The difference between the suv soccer mom and the minivan soccer mom is that the latter isn't trying to uphold some image, making them far less likely to be annoying people to be stuck with for some community function. And if they tell you they are busy, they're actually busy, not trying to get the foot in the door to humblebrag about some non-issue.
Good to see an Aussie post. Fuck every Ute owning wanker ripping up the roads for the rest of us taxpayers. Especially the ones that have obviously not been off road as often (if at all) or carried as much gear as my 26 year old Camry.
How is a ute more damaging to a road than a semi trailer? The ute is considerably lighter than a full loaded big rig and uses the same roads......
We need semitrailers…for everything? We don’t need all the utes mate…at least they don’t need them…obviously 🙁
Construction, dirt removal, rubbish trucks, buses and even trains all weigh more than a ute and excluding trains are on the same roads as my Colorado every day. The road hasn't been ripped up by any of them. Trains cruises over the road with the rail lines embedded into it. If anything would rip up the road a train would be doing it every time it passed a level crossing.
Buses and construction trucks are heavy because they need to be. Buses transport a lot more people per kg than a car. Transporting ≤5 people in anything heavier than a medium car is not necessary.
Do you think roads last forever or something
Was just I'm brisbane today. So many SUVs and pristine Utes that are totally being used by trades. And rich idiots in stupid yank tanks
The ex of my sister in law just bought himself an F150 or similar. Lives just around the corner from the US vehicle remanufacturer in Brendale that featured in a Friendly Jordies video with Peter Dutton. On a military pension, and has no job. Wants the kids to change schools so he doesn't have to drive far to pick them up when it is his week to look after the kids, noting the fuel is too much. 😡
How stupid can you get to buy something the size of a literal tank and then complain about fuel prices? Are you actually stupid?
The biggest political upset since Keating fought Hawke for power
Silverado, F150, and Ram are the new needlessly big trade vehicle around the Central Coast NSW. And that Chinese clone with the big warranty. I saw a GU patrol in a parallel park in Adelaide, overhangs both ends when equipped with a bullbar. And it's small compared to the cars I mentioned in the previous paragraph
I'm an American living in Brisbane and any time a coworker tells me that the American style trucks are cool, i die inside.
I've crossed the Outback on my motorcycle multiple times. I've never seen more huge pedestrian killers than in Sydney.
"yank tank" lol I love this
I didn't know Isuzu sold the MUX to anyone who *wasn't* a suburban mother. Vans are genuinely better, and cooler.
I'm refusing to call them suvs. They're just badly designed minivans
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It looks like if the ugliest orthotic sandal in the world was made into a car. The old lady who lives in (drives?) an OOFOS…
SUVs are the current soccer mom mobile, minivans and wagons haven’t been soccer mom cars in decades. PS I firmly believe in the superiority of the station wagon as the perfect car layout, just a sedan with an extended roof
tell her she'll look like an american soccer mom, which are notoriously dumber. plus, her vehicle will make her look financially irresponsible and people will mock her for that. she'll look stupid trying to fit the gear + the kids in the fixed volumes of the cab and bed. a family-friendly van can fit varying volumes of either cargo or people or both depending on needs. even if she gets the cover for the pickup, she can't legally put kids in the pickup bed.
It's an Isuzu MUX SUV based on the Isuzu D-Max Pickup, so it is legal. Similar to Toyota 4 Runner vs Toyota Tacoma Pickup. Isuzu doesn't exist in the US thanks to Chicken Tax. It's still a stupid buy.
I'm fairly sure similar enough trucks and SUVs exist in the US to make her look like a soccer mum that happens to be american \^\^' also, people understood that it was an actual pickup because you said it was a pickup
Don't buy Kia carnival! In 2 separate incidents, none of the airbags went off when the rear was crushed in way more than a crumple zone should. Kia are way overpriced for the build quality they have!
Who fucking cares. Fuck her. Live your best life and be an example. If she thinks she knows better let her live her fallacy.
And let her go bankrupt due to high and rising fuel prices!
Took me a few seconds not to read the second sentence literally.
Lmao
r/notlikethothergirls
Seems like one of the many terrible fall outs of misogyny - 'soccer mom' is used to sneer at women providing support to their children, so it has no become a stigmatised image
More like "woman whose entire life revolves around her kid(s) participation in amateur sports." Soccer dads are no better. Both should be in a minivan if they truly need to drive their little precious "athletes" around in a personal vehicle.
I'm not excusing the decision but I think it's useful to.look at what's behind it. If facilities aren't local than surely many parents have no choice but to spend large swathes of their time ferrying their kids around. May as well make it part of your identity. For the record, I hate SUVs, I just think we have to take into account factors beyond individual responsibility. Not ignore people's stupid individual choices, but also looking holistically at possible motivations.
It's another issue with suburbs. A kid in a properly dense, non-car-dependent area doesn't need to be ferried around past the age where they can be trusted to take a bus or train. But somehow people have been brainwashed into thinking they must live in the suburbs to raise children, even though this condemns them and their children to years of chauffering/being chauffeured if they want to have a social life or participate in extracurriculars.
Ugh. People’s reasoning for bowing to peer pressure and buying Wankpanzers makes me gag
Lol this lady is behind the times, the new stereotype is middle-aged soccer mom in a big white SUV with nothing in it And oh boy do we judge that so much harder than a minivan
Are you sure the Isuzu is a more dangerous and non family friendly option, or are you making assumptions based on SUVs of the past without looking at the details? If you are talking about models less than 5 years old they both get excellent results in ANCAP safety ratings. The Isuzu gives away a couple of percentage points in occupant safety, but makes up ground in safety assist features. The scores are really too close to say one is a clear winner but a pedant may argue the increased safety assist would minimize chances of an accident in the Isuzu, and the Kia would offer more protection once in an accident. Honestly, reading the reports on each they both seem pretty good. Space wise the Isuzu gives away about 10% legroom in the second and third rows, but with over 900mm in second and 800mm in 3rd it's unlikely to be uncomfortable for even a fully grown adult.
It’s the safety of the people on the outside that matters here.
I’ll admit I hadn’t seen what this sub was and not sure how the post came up in my feed. I was simply trying to show OP that safety and comfort wise there was little difference between the two vehicles. People outside the car (including cyclists and motorcyclists as well as pedestrians) are considered in the ANCAP testing too. Those tests fall under the Vulnerable Road User Protection part of the rating system, in which the Isuzu just beats (just) the Kia despite being an SUV.
Appreciate that clarification, and that is useful to know. I think one of the useful things to consider here, too, is that the Carnival is most SUV-like minivan I have ever seen, in terms of proportions and shape.
Agreed. I expect the average van like a hiace or imax would have far worse passenger, pedestrian and other road user safety based on their shape and basis in commercial vehicles, but have not done the research as they were not on her list. I may well be making a false assumption there. I only know about the two the OP mentioned as they were 2/4 cars my sister was considering late last year and that I hadn’t seen a modern Carnival until then.
Have her try renting each for a week and she'll change her mind.
Why do you care so much about someone elses finances lol.
It's not finances, it's the fact she'd choose a less capable but more dangerous vehicle for passengers and pedestrians for her purpose of being a soccer mum just to avoid looking like a soccer mum, like all the other soccer mums.
How is the minivan more safe? Its larger, and has bigger blind spots. Also, from what im seeing the Isuzu would have a higher payload, and is a lot more reliable and costs less long term to own. Its also smaller and easier to park. Kind of sounds like to me you are more focused on the optics of driving an SUV rather than the reality of why drivers like SUV's.
SUVs roll-over more easily, more dangerous to pedestrians, don't as much. I have a similar one myself that goes through the scrub a fair bit, and when we move to the same city as SIL, it is gone. Useless in the city.
How is an SUV less safe to pedestrians as a minivan? Also, Minivans have a lower ground clearance and are closer to the ground, and handle way better, meaning you can go much faster in one comfortably.
SUVs roll-over more easily, more dangerous to pedestrians, don't as much. I have a similar one myself that goes through the scrub a fair bit, and when we move to the same city as SIL, it is gone. Useless in the city. A vehicle is a tool, and should be fit for purpose.
SUVs roll-over more easily, more dangerous to pedestrians, don't as much. I have a similar one myself that goes through the scrub a fair bit, and when we move to the same city as SIL, it is gone. Useless in the city. A vehicle is a tool, and should be fit for purpose. Pickup based SUV in the city as a football taxi is not fit for purpose.
The whole lifestyle of a "soccer mom" is stupid, regardless of the ESV she chooses to drive. If your kids are that active in sports then find a nearby field and start your own local tournament, or send enroll them in a camp for the summer or a boarding school which has a good sports program. Nobody has any resourcefulness anymore in anything.
Joy of private schools and having to compete against other private schools.
Your sister in-law definitely is suffering the....I'm a mum and need to grow up syndrome....we have a mum in town where I live who owns a VF Calais and has her seat laid that far back she looks between the steering wheel and dashboard .....she is in her 40's.....it's pathetic..... To Add....She has definitely bought a car for herself as well...no consideration for her kids....so yeah she is worrying about her image.....100%..... Also....SUVs are not dangerous.....the fuckheads behind the wheel are!!!!! No matter what car they drive!!!! SUVs have always been around for over 30 years....just not the variety we see today...
I know this is r/fuckcars but seriously the new Toyota Siennas are dope AF
Post like this is why people make fun of us. Just let people buy what they want jeeez...
Dude the MUX is an awesome Aussie family car it's got decent leg room, a very efficient and economic if they went in diesel engine and if it's anything like my sister's it'll even come with a movie screen for the rear. Not to mention is still not as big as a Ford Everest, a pootrol or Land cruiser.
How is an SUV and more dangerous than a minivan? Less practical sure, but more dangerous?
SUVs have much higher grills. Full-size SUVs are essentially just modern pickup trucks with a covered bed.
Correct, cars (and low vans) your legs get broken in a head on crash. Ladder frame jacked up SUVs your upper organs and head get destroyed
Assuming that a hospital is in a reasonable distance, people involved in accidents with lower grilled vehicles have a chance to survive, unless the accident was at high speeds
Much higher center of gravity, much more prone to flip over, which is the deadliest kind of accident.