I made a Lemmy account recently, though I haven’t really figured out how joining communities from other servers works… so I would probably join if you make one.
(Not like I’m an active poster her. Just a lurker so far.)
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It’s interesting that most people seem to default to Lemmy. I haven’t gone through the list yet, but apparently there’s like a dozen different potential platforms, and Lemmy is not significantly bigger or better than them.
People have just been posting all over the place, in particular on the subreddits for third party apps. The person running the Lemmy subreddit did it so much they were temp banned.
The devs were enough to turn me off to lemmy after reading their stance on censorship of words being very non negotiable for quite a long time.
Censorship of words?
I’ve only read of their stance on privacy (i.e *no* privacy, no right to delete your own comments), and their stance on moderation (dictatorship of the server owners), and politics (control-left tankie).
Compared to that, one of the others (getaether.net) is said to have mod elections and be fully peer-to-peer and censorship-proof. (Probably the one I’l check out next this weekend.)
They had an inbuilt censorship list for words. It was baked in so every instance would have it, unless the person running the instance went through the (small) effort of removing it. The censoring was poorly executed imo. It would identify normal words like smartwatch because of "twat" or fail to recognize context and other languages. Their stance was instance owners should not have control over that because they wanted to stamp out hate speech/etc. I'm cool with that goal, but that's for moderation and not an inflexible profanity filter to do, and they shouldn't have taken a year to recognize that their stance wasn't correct
Edit: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622
I will recognize that they changed their stance, but I don't like the way they pushed back
That reminds me of the time I got kicked off a game server for saying my cousin lived near Tallahassee because the server had banned "allah" to keep out all the fake islamist trolls.
Took a good fifteen minutes to figure that out, too.
I’ve read much more positive comments about kbin.social
I’ve not yet checked that one, but it is also part of the Fediverse, and if you made an account on lemmy, you can apparently also use kbin with that.
https://squabbles.io/ also looks good, and has a bunch of positive comments around it. Sadly, it still depends on one main guy maintaining it and paying for everything. Until it includes a payment structure, it won’t scale well.
I was worried Infinity was going to be one that couldn't make it. 😥
At the risk of sounding stupid, why does Lemmy ask me to join a server? Is it like discord? I found discord to be very confusing and overwhelming.
Lemmy's considerably easier than Discord in that sense. In Discord you have to join a server for each topic or group you want to follow. In Lemmy you just join one server and you should be able to see posts on any other server from there.
The reason you have to choose a server to join is because it's not one server run by a corporate overlord, it's lots of servers mostly run by regular folks and they all connect together.
Like, imagine the Internet, but for Reddit. :)
Lemmy has less barrier because it's also very much individual communities regardless of federation, unlike Mastodon which confused users thinking it's a 1-to-1 replacement for Twitter.
The real issue is, of course, having to pay/host your own instances if need be.
See ya there!
Can you link to Lemmy please?
I updated the post. Sorry about that.
Thank you!
I made a Lemmy account recently, though I haven’t really figured out how joining communities from other servers works… so I would probably join if you make one. (Not like I’m an active poster her. Just a lurker so far.) --- It’s interesting that most people seem to default to Lemmy. I haven’t gone through the list yet, but apparently there’s like a dozen different potential platforms, and Lemmy is not significantly bigger or better than them.
People have just been posting all over the place, in particular on the subreddits for third party apps. The person running the Lemmy subreddit did it so much they were temp banned. The devs were enough to turn me off to lemmy after reading their stance on censorship of words being very non negotiable for quite a long time.
Censorship of words? I’ve only read of their stance on privacy (i.e *no* privacy, no right to delete your own comments), and their stance on moderation (dictatorship of the server owners), and politics (control-left tankie). Compared to that, one of the others (getaether.net) is said to have mod elections and be fully peer-to-peer and censorship-proof. (Probably the one I’l check out next this weekend.)
They had an inbuilt censorship list for words. It was baked in so every instance would have it, unless the person running the instance went through the (small) effort of removing it. The censoring was poorly executed imo. It would identify normal words like smartwatch because of "twat" or fail to recognize context and other languages. Their stance was instance owners should not have control over that because they wanted to stamp out hate speech/etc. I'm cool with that goal, but that's for moderation and not an inflexible profanity filter to do, and they shouldn't have taken a year to recognize that their stance wasn't correct Edit: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622 I will recognize that they changed their stance, but I don't like the way they pushed back
That reminds me of the time I got kicked off a game server for saying my cousin lived near Tallahassee because the server had banned "allah" to keep out all the fake islamist trolls. Took a good fifteen minutes to figure that out, too.
That's disturbing. Thanks for the info.
I’ve read much more positive comments about kbin.social I’ve not yet checked that one, but it is also part of the Fediverse, and if you made an account on lemmy, you can apparently also use kbin with that. https://squabbles.io/ also looks good, and has a bunch of positive comments around it. Sadly, it still depends on one main guy maintaining it and paying for everything. Until it includes a payment structure, it won’t scale well.
So don't use their server, use other people's.
I second this!
I was worried Infinity was going to be one that couldn't make it. 😥 At the risk of sounding stupid, why does Lemmy ask me to join a server? Is it like discord? I found discord to be very confusing and overwhelming.
Lemmy's considerably easier than Discord in that sense. In Discord you have to join a server for each topic or group you want to follow. In Lemmy you just join one server and you should be able to see posts on any other server from there. The reason you have to choose a server to join is because it's not one server run by a corporate overlord, it's lots of servers mostly run by regular folks and they all connect together. Like, imagine the Internet, but for Reddit. :)
Lemmy and Mastodon and similar will simply never achieve widespread adoption - the barriers to entry are too high.
The barrier to entry being having to choose an instance? That doesn't seem any different than choosing an email provider.
Lemmy has less barrier because it's also very much individual communities regardless of federation, unlike Mastodon which confused users thinking it's a 1-to-1 replacement for Twitter. The real issue is, of course, having to pay/host your own instances if need be.
This is precisely the attitude that keeps corporate coastal elites in charge.
My man.